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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o because_o it_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o our_o confession_n 2._o because_o prayer_n to_o a_o absent_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v vow_n and_o hymn_n sect._n 3.3_o because_o the_o apostle_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n so_o to_o do_v sect._n 4._o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v confirm_v and_o the_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 5._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o miracle_n confute_v sect._n 6._o have_v lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n let_v we_o now_o view_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v deliver_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n 1._o viz._n mandate_n sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o clerieis_fw-la docendi_fw-la munuscurámque_fw-la sustinentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la fideles_fw-la 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c._n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a humble_o to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n and_o fly_v unto_o their_o prayer_n and_o help_v and_o that_o whosoever_o do_v deny_v that_o saint_n who_o do_v enjoy_v eternal_a happiness_n in_o heaven_n aught_o to_o be_v invoke_v or_o do_v assert_v that_o to_o entreat_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o any_o single_a person_n be_v idolatry_n or_o be_v
romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la casura_fw-la &_o interitura_fw-la penitus_fw-la videri_fw-la potuisset_fw-la tot_fw-la improbis_fw-la sceleratis_fw-la impudicis_fw-la praedonibus_fw-la invasorbus_fw-la sanguinariis_fw-la &_o grassatoribus_fw-la hoc_fw-la seculo_fw-la ut_fw-la audisti_fw-la sedem_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la invadentibus_fw-la cbron._n 1000_o ten_o and_o 1079._o and_o cent._n 11._o quam_fw-la tunc_fw-la deploratus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la status_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o ferme_fw-fr monstro_fw-la simillimus_fw-la cernere_fw-la licet_fw-la apud_fw-la sigebertum_fw-la vincent_n &_o antoni_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la crant_fw-la moribus_fw-la depravatissim_fw-la be_v &_o propterea_fw-la ipsi_fw-la &_o res_fw-la sacrae_fw-la populo_fw-la contemptibiles_fw-la quilibet_fw-la ex_fw-la plebe_fw-la audebat_fw-la de_fw-la sacris_fw-la mysteriis_fw-la disputare_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etiam_fw-la ab_fw-la infantibus_fw-la turpiter_fw-la tractabantur_fw-la in_fw-la extremo_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la viaticum_fw-la dominicum_fw-la contemnebatur_fw-la decimae_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la debitae_fw-la igne_fw-la cremabantur_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la saepe_fw-la pedibus_fw-la conculcabatur_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la effundebatur_fw-la multaque_fw-la alia_fw-la scclera_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la patrabantur_fw-la genebrard_n chron._n 1079._o eleven_o age_n the_o priest_n and_o bishop_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v so_o abominable_o wicked_a that_o tongue_n can_v express_v sufficient_o their_o vileness_n that_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n 50_o succeed_a pope_n be_v rather_o devil_n and_o apostate_n than_o apostolic_a person_n that_o their_o sacrificator_n be_v 591._o be_v sacrificuli_fw-la principibus_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la datis_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la parendum_fw-la esse_fw-la verum_fw-la etiam_fw-la fraud_n vi_fw-mi quov_fw-mi be_v modo_fw-la tollendos_fw-la populum_fw-la christianum_fw-la docere_fw-la audent_fw-la per_fw-la juria_fw-la homicidia_fw-la civilia_fw-la bella_fw-la caedes_fw-la perfidiam_fw-la pietatem_fw-la vocant_fw-la fidem_fw-la frangentes_fw-la faedera_fw-mi dissolventes_fw-la pactum_fw-la praevaricantes_fw-la juramentum_fw-la ujolantes_fw-la perfidos_fw-la atque_fw-la perjuros_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la sibi_fw-la credi_fw-la postulant_fw-la quin_fw-la choose_fw-la qui_fw-la fideles_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la rebellionem_fw-la incendia_fw-la facere_fw-la stup_a a_o incestus_fw-la committere_fw-la praedas_fw-la agitare_fw-la proximos_fw-la opprimere_fw-la occidere_fw-la compila●e_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la christianum_fw-la effundere_fw-la summopere_fw-la cavent_fw-la in_fw-la numero_fw-la sceleratorum_fw-la atque_fw-la impiorum_fw-la computant_fw-la etc._n etc._n aventinus_n annal._n bojar_n lib._n 5_o pag._n 591._o antichrist_n magician_n invader_n of_o the_o holy_a function_n guilty_a of_o simony_n and_o perjury_n monster_n and_o prodigy_n of_o vice_n and_o that_o on_o those_o account_v the_o age_n mention_v be_v call_v the_o 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certain_o contain_v christ_n real_a body_n yet_o have_v we_o no_o good_a warrant_n upon_o that_o supposition_n to_o adore_v it_o with_o latria_n 127._o p._n 127._o for_o as_o the_o dr._n excellent_o argue_v the_o reason_n of_o all_o adoration_n give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n be_v this_o that_o christ_n have_v say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n which_o word_n if_o they_o imply_v transubstantiation_n can_v be_v understand_v of_o any_o other_o change_n than_o of_o the_o bread_n into_o christ_n body_n and_o if_o this_o sense_n be_v to_o be_v put_v upon_o they_o why_o mhy_a i_o not_o imagine_v much_o more_o agreeable_o to_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o institution_n that_o the_o mere_a humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n be_v there_o then_o that_o his_o divinity_n shall_v be_v there_o in_o a_o particular_a manner_n present_a to_o no_o end_n and_o where_o it_o make_v not_o the_o least_o manifestation_n of_o itself_o to_o this_o discourse_n t._n g._n return_v this_o answer_n 23●_n p._n 23●_n that_o where_o there_o be_v a_o general_n command_v without_o exception_n to_o worship_n the_o word_n make_v flesh_n there_o he_o have_v give_v a_o sufficient_a indication_n of_o do_v it_o wherever_o we_o be_v certain_a by_o faith_n that_o he_o be_v so_o present_a answer_v but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o doctor_n argument_n which_o proceed_v upon_o this_o ground_n that_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v no_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o in_o the_o eucharist_n it_o be_v unite_v to_o the_o word_n for_o if_o christ_n body_n may_v be_v eat_v and_o not_o eat_v eat_v by_o they_o who_o have_v receive_v the_o host_n and_o not_o eat_v by_o they_o who_o have_v not_o yet_o receive_v it_o if_o it_o may_v be_v under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o not_o under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o not_o under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n as_o it_o be_v in_o heaven_n why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v unite_v to_o the_o word_n and_o not_o unite_v to_o the_o word_n unite_v to_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v in_o heaven_n but_o not_o unite_v to_o the_o word_n as_o it_o lie_v senseless_a on_o the_o altar_n and_o therefore_o the_o belief_n of_o catholic_n that_o the_o divinity_n be_v thus_o unite_a to_o the_o sacrament_n be_v no_o sufficient_a motive_n to_o adore_v it_o with_o latria_n because_o i_o can_v have_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n to_o think_v it_o true_a second_o 113._o p._n 113._o the_o dr._n argue_v thus_o if_o the_o bread_n be_v convert_v into_o that_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v hypostatical_o unite_v with_o the_o divine_a nature_n than_o the_o conversion_n be_v not_o mere_o into_o the_o body_n but_o into_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n and_o than_o christ_n have_v as_o many_o body_n hypostatical_o unite_v to_o he_o as_o there_o be_v element_n consecrate_v this_o clear_a perspicuous_a argument_n be_v say_v t._n g._n a_o notable_a piece_n of_o new_a mystical_a divinity_n 141._o p._n 141._o and_o express_v in_o hard_a word_n and_o attend_v with_o a_o contradiction_n answer_v can_v it_o be_v expect_v that_o any_o man_n shall_v speak_v of_o a_o subject_a that_o be_v itself_o make_v up_o of_o infinite_a contradiction_n and_o not_o speak_v suitable_o to_o the_o subject_a if_o t._n g._n will_v assert_v the_o contrary_a to_o what_o the_o dr._n argue_v must_v he_o not_o say_v that_o all_o the_o consecrate_a element_n perhaps_o a_o 1000_o be_v but_o one_o body_n and_o see_v all_o these_o element_n be_v christ_n body_n must_v not_o he_o say_v that_o a_o 1000_o christ_n body_n be_v but_o one_o christ_n body_n be_v it_o not_o impudence_n and_o disingenuity_n to_o cry_v out_o of_o hard_a word_n upon_o the_o mention_n of_o consecrate_a element_n and_o conversion_n into_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n when_o we_o be_v speak_v of_o that_o change_n which_o they_o all_o transubstantiation_n and_o say_v that_o it_o be_v make_v by_o consecration_n of_o the_o element_n or_o because_o we_o use_v that_o term_n of_o hypostatick_a union_n when_o we_o be_v speak_v of_o that_o union_n which_o be_v so_o call_v by_o all_o divine_n that_o treat_v upon_o that_o subject_a and_o be_v deliver_v to_o we_o in_o that_o very_a word_n by_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n 241.242_o p._n 241.242_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v say_v t._n g._n any_o more_o than_o because_o the_o bread_n the_o flesh_n the_o fish_n which_o he_o eat_v upon_o earth_n be_v convert_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o his_o body_n and_o hypostatical_o unite_v to_o he_o it_o follow_v that_o
there_o the_o likeness_n of_o wine_n and_o yet_o no_o wine_n so_o christ_n whilst_o he_o converse_v in_o the_o world_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o similitude_n of_o man_n but_o yet_o no_o man._n if_o you_o shall_v urge_v against_o they_o sense_n and_o reason_n they_o will_v answer_v with_o t._n g._n christianity_n have_v teach_v they_o to_o renounce_v they_o or_o if_o you_o urge_v against_o they_o all_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o affirm_v christ_n to_o have_v a_o body_n they_o may_v answer_v it_o be_v in_o scripture_n call_v a_o body_n because_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v so_o for_o this_o be_v that_o very_a answer_n which_o r._n catholic_n do_v give_v to_o all_o those_o place_n of_o of_o scripture_n which_o say_v the_o sacrament_n be_v after_o consecration_n bread_n and_o wine_n but_o chrysostom_n and_o cyril_n seem_v to_o say_v 6._o §._o 6._o we_o must_v not_o in_o this_o matter_n trust_v the_o judgement_n of_o our_o our_o sense_n 82._o hom._n 82._o the_o word_n of_o chrysostom_n be_v these_o let_v we_o obey_v god_n in_o all_o thing_n and_o not_o gainsay_v he_o though_o what_o be_v say_v seem_v to_o contradict_v both_o our_o imagination_n and_o our_o eye_n let_v his_o word_n obtain_v more_o credit_n from_o we_o than_o our_o thought_n or_o sight_n and_o let_v we_o behave_v ourselves_o in_o the_o mystery_n not_o behold_v only_o those_o thing_n which_o lie_v before_o we_o but_o hold_v fast_o his_o word_n for_o his_o word_n be_v infallible_a but_o our_o sense_n be_v easy_a to_o be_v deceive_v that_o never_o fail_v but_o this_o most_o frequent_o mistake_v because_o therefore_o the_o word_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n let_v we_o obey_v and_o believe_v and_o behold_v he_o with_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n answ_n these_o word_n be_v hyberbolical_a and_o high_a but_o must_v be_v sober_o interpret_v viz._n that_o we_o must_v not_o final_o resolve_v all_o into_o sense_n but_o we_o must_v certain_o believe_v that_o howsoever_o the_o 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intelligible_a thing_n convey_v in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v say_v to_o be_v convey_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o thing_n sensible_a i.e._n by_o such_o thing_n sensible_a as_o water_n wherefore_o the_o thing_n sensible_a be_v no_o more_o transubstantiate_v then_o be_v that_o element_n in_o baptism_n second_o the_o thing_n intelligible_a or_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d convey_v by_o baptism_n make_v but_o a_o accidental_a change_n a_o renovation_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o nature_n but_o in_o the_o addition_n of_o grace_n to_o nature_n so_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d convey_v by_o this_o holy_a sacrament_n must_v not_o impart_v the_o transubstantiated_a bread_n but_o bread_n convert_v in_o its_o use_n and_o operation_n by_o the_o addition_n of_o spiritual_a grace_n and_o therefore_o what_o he_o here_o declare_v touch_v the_o holy_a eucharist_n he_o elsewhere_o do_v apply_v to_o baptism_n in_o these_o word_n let_v we_o believe_v god_n word_n for_o it_o be_v more_o certain_a than_o our_o sight_n for_o the_o sight_n be_v oftentimes_o deceive_v whereas_o god_n word_n can_v never_o fail_v and_o speak_v of_o the_o poor_a he_o say_v when_o we_o be_v charitable_a to_o they_o let_v we_o be_v so_o affect_v as_o be_v we_o give_v to_o christ_n himself_o for_o his_o word_n be_v more_o certain_a than_o our_o sight_n so_o that_o we_o may_v from_o these_o expression_n with_o equal_a reason_n argue_v that_o the_o baptismal_a water_n be_v tran._n substantiate_v and_o that_o the_o poor_a man_n be_v true_o change_v into_o christ_n as_o that_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n be_v change_v into_o his_o body_n and_o his_o blood_n this_o be_v apparent_a second_o from_o what_o he_o do_v affirm_v of_o all_o good_a christian_n viz._n 21._o viz._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 514._o l._n 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o b._n l._n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 513._o l_o 21._o that_o their_o tongue_n be_v red_a with_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o they_o be_v nourish_v and_o so_o mix_v with_o he_o that_o they_o be_v christ_n own_o flesh_n and_o body_n '_o and_o that_o the_o whole_a multitude_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n three_o from_o what_o he_o add_v of_o wicked_a man_n viz._n 1._o 27._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 514._o l._n 27._o that_o christ_n do_v not_o give_v his_o body_n to_o they_o by_o the_o mystery_n which_o be_v impossible_a if_o both_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n contain_v his_o body_n and_o second_o that_o the_o table_n and_o the_o place_n which_o they_o resort_v to_o be_v 38._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 514._o l._n 38._o that_o same_o very_a table_n and_o that_o same_o very_a upper_a room_n in_o which_o christ_n with_o his_o own_o disciple_n do_v eat_v the_o passeover_n viz._n because_o it_o do_v contain_v the_o same_o spiritual_a viand_n and_o therefore_o may_v he_o not_o be_v think_v to_o say_v his_o sacramental_a body_n be_v indeed_o the_o same_o which_o suffer_v on_o the_o cross_n because_o it_o do_v convey_v unto_o we_o the_o same_o blessing_n which_o he_o purchase_v by_o it_o hence_o in_o this_o homily_n he_o do_v not_o only_o call_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n 36._o wine_n p._n 510._o l._n 36._o the_o symbol_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o he_o confute_v the_o encratitae_n by_o assert_v that_o in_o those_o holy_a mystery_n our_o lord_n deliver_v wine_n i.e._n the_o fruit_n of_o the_o grape_n the_o word_n of_o cyril_n 238._o catech._n mist_n p._n 237_o 238._o viz._n consider_v this_o be_v not_o mere_a bread_n and_o wine_n for_o it_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n himself_o and_o although_o sense_n do_v suggest_v this_o to_o thou_o viz._n that_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d common_a bread_n yet_o let_v faith_n confirm_v thou_o do_v not_o judge_v of_o the_o thing_n by_o thy_o taste_n but_o know_v and_o hold_v for_o most_o certain_a that_o this_o bread_n which_o 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19_o that_o if_o the_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n do_v make_v this_o sense_n this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n this_o sentence_n must_v either_o be_v take_v tropical_o that_o bread_n may_v be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n significative_o or_o else_o it_o be_v plain_o absurd_a and_o impossible_a for_o it_o can_v be_v that_o bread_n shall_v be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v the_o nature_n of_o this_o verb_n substantive_n est_fw-la or_o be_v say_v 20._o say_v tom._n 7._o c._n 20._o salmeron_n that_o as_o often_o as_o it_o join_v and_o couple_v togeht_a thing_n of_o divers_a nature_n which_o by_o the_o latin_n be_v term_v disparata_fw-la there_o we_o must_v of_o necessity_n run_v to_o a_o figure_n and_o trope_n and_o therefore_o shall_v we_o
introduce_v now_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v not_o a_o proper_a object_n of_o latria_n and_o it_o that_o christ_n god-man_n be_v proper_o contain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n there_o can_v be_v no_o suspicion_n of_o idolatry_n in_o the_o adoration_n of_o it_o what_o i_o have_v thus_o discourse_v i_o judge_v sufficient_a to_o convince_v the_o reader_n that_o this_o be_v not_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n what_o t._n g._n offer_v to_o the_o contrary_n be_v 6._o §._o 6._o that_o st._n basil_n say_v the_o word_n of_o invocation_n when_o the_o eucharistical_a bread_n be_v show_v 223._o t_o g._n p._n 222_o 223._o be_v apostolical_a tradition_n ergo_fw-la the_o host_n be_v worship_v with_o latria_n st._n augustine_n mother_n assist_v at_o the_o altar_n from_o whence_o she_o know_v the_o holy_a victim_n be_v disp_n ace_v ergo_fw-la the_o host_n be_v worship_v with_o latria_n optatus_n call_v the_o altar_n the_o seat_n of_o the_o body_n of_o 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ib._n hom._n 24_o vide_fw-la albert_n l._n 2._o at_o sacr._n euch._n p._n 535_o 536._o we_o see_v it_o slay_v and_o jugulate_v 82._o jugulate_v in_o mat._n hom._n 82._o and_o when_o the_o heretic_n do_v ask_v whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o christ_n be_v crucify_a we_o stop_v their_o mouth_n say_v he_o by_o the_o consideration_n of_o these_o mystery_n for_o if_o christ_n be_v not_o ●ead_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o do_v these_o symbol_n mean_v christ_n body_n therefore_o be_v see_v upon_o the_o altar_n not_o as_o to_o its_o substance_n for_o there_o according_a to_o the_o roman_a doctor_n its_o be_v be_v invisible_a but_o as_o to_o that_o sacrament_n which_o represent_v his_o body_n this_o than_o must_v be_v the_o mind_n of_o chrysostom_n that_o body_n which_o be_v real_o in_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o altar_n be_v see_v slay_v and_o jugulate_v in_o effigy_n do_v you_o adore_v hitherto_o we_o have_v complain_v only_o of_o the_o want_n of_o reason_n in_o the_o citation_n 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see_v and_o hear_v we_o every_o where_fw-mi and_o chrysostom_n upon_o the_o same_o expression_n find_v fault_n with_o those_o that_o pray_v aloud_o and_o bid_v we_o imitate_v the_o hymn_n and_o melody_n of_o holy_a angel_n who_o pray_v with_o we_o although_o we_o do_v not_o hear_v they_o for_o say_v he_o 137._o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 2._o homil._n in_o matt._n 19_o pag._n 137._o thou_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n omnipresent_v to_o he_o that_o hear_v before_o thou_o speak_v to_o he_o that_o understand_v what_o the_o mind_n do_v not_o utter_v 4._o because_o he_o only_o can_v answer_v our_o petition_n and_o from_o he_o only_o can_v we_o obtain_v what_o we_o desire_v 3._o desire_v precantes_fw-la sumus_fw-la proomnibus_fw-la imperatoribus_fw-la vitam_fw-la illis_fw-la prolixam_fw-la imperium_fw-la securum_fw-la domun_fw-la tutam_fw-la populum_fw-la probum_fw-la orbem_fw-la quietum_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o caesaris_fw-la vota_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la orare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la quam_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la i_o scio_fw-la consequnturum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la praestat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la impetrare_fw-la debetur_fw-la famulus_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la solum_fw-la observo_fw-la tertul._n apol._n c._n 30._o sect._n 2_o 3._o we_o beg_v for_o all_o our_o emperor_n long_a life_n safe_a empire_n valiant_a army_n a_o faithful_a senate_n a_o honest_a people_n and_o a_o quiet_a world_n and_o whatsoever_o any_o man_n or_o emperor_n can_v wish_v so_o tertullian_n and_o then_o he_o add_v these_o thing_n i_o may_v not_o pray_v for_o from_o any_o other_o but_o from_o he_o of_o who_o i_o know_v i_o shall_v obtain_v they_o because_o both_o it_o be_v he_o who_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o give_v and_o i_o be_o be_v to_o who_o it_o appertain_v to_o obtain_v that_o which_o be_v request_v be_v his_o servant_n who_o observe_v he_o alone_o from_o all_o which_o saying_n it_o be_v evident_a these_o ancient_a father_n do_v not_o only_o think_v as_o we_o now_o do_v that_o all_o our_o intercession_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o god_n but_o also_o that_o they_o do_v it_o for_o these_o very_a reason_n we_o allege_v viz._n that_o he_o alone_o be_v omnipresent_v that_o he_o alone_o discern_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n that_o he_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o confer_v the_o blessing_n which_o we_o want_v and_o pray_v for_o 2_o the_o father_n do_v affirm_v that_o by_o address_v a_o petition_n to_o a_o martyr_n saint_n or_o angel_n we_o become_v guilty_a of_o distraction_n from_o god_n and_o of_o desert_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n 135._o christ_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 4._o c._n 15._o pag._n 135._o we_o can_v be_v induce_v say_v the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n to_o forsake_v christ_n or_o worship_v any_o other_o person_n where_o first_o it_o well_o deserve_v to_o be_v note_v that_o what_o be_v in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o the_o ancient_a interpreter_n of_o the_o act_n of_o polycarp_n alteri_fw-la cviquam_fw-la orationis_fw-la precem_fw-la impendere_fw-la we_o can_v pray_v to_o any_o other_o 27._o act._n polyc_a in_o append_v ignat_fw-la usser_n p._n 27._o and_o what_o the_o jew_n object_v that_o if_o the_o christian_n can_v obtain_v the_o martyr_n body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d desert_v christ_n they_o will_v begin_v to_o worship_v he_o be_v by_o the_o metaphra_v thus_o render_v huic_fw-la fundenda_fw-la esset_fw-la oratio_fw-la singulorum_fw-la they_o will_v all_o pray_v unto_o he_o now_o see_v this_o translation_n be_v of_o such_o credit_n in_o the_o western_a church_n that_o it_o be_v read_v in_o their_o assembly_n it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o church_n do_v ancient_o conceive_v 1_o that_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n do_v deny_v that_o any_o genuine_a christian_n will_v pray_v to_o any_o saint_n depart_v 2._o that_o 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the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o martyr_n and_o comprehend_v the_o service_n they_o perform_v to_o the_o bless_a martyr_n in_o a_o word_n which_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o import_n the_o veneration_n which_o they_o daily_o practise_v 2._o observe_v the_o reason_n which_o be_v give_v by_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n why_o they_o can_v not_o worship_v any_o other_o viz._n because_o they_o worship_v the_o son_n of_o god_n if_o any_o worship_n have_v be_v then_o pay_v to_o martyr_n or_o any_o other_o saint_n depart_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n what_o can_v have_v be_v more_o stupid_a than_o this_o way_n of_o reason_v now_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n we_o hear_v they_o speak_v thus_o 11._o thus_o tantum_n abest_fw-la ut_fw-la sanctis_fw-la invocandis_fw-la dei_fw-la gloria_fw-la minuacur_fw-la ut_fw-la eo_fw-la maximè_fw-la augeatur_fw-la cat._n rom._n part_n 3._o c._n 2._o sect._n 11._o we_o worship_v saint_n 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and_o defence_n against_o the_o power_n of_o the_o enemy_n to_o drive_v away_o their_o foe_n and_o overthrow_v their_o machination_n why_o do_v they_o never_o call_v upon_o their_o guardian_n angel_n to_o take_v hold_n of_o sword_n and_o buckler_n and_o rise_v up_o to_o help_v they_o or_o to_o their_o valiant_a champion_n gabriel_n to_o rise_v up_o to_o help_v they_o against_o the_o malignant_n and_o to_o be_v with_o they_o against_o all_o their_o adversary_n 3._o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n when_o they_o appear_v the_o jew_n do_v sometime_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o why_o therefore_o do_v they_o not_o invoke_v they_o when_o absent_a and_o invisible_a if_o they_o have_v hold_v as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o be_v absent_a they_o be_v as_o able_a to_o perceive_v their_o supplication_n and_o obtain_v the_o blessing_n they_o do_v want_v and_o that_o their_o aid_n be_v such_o a_o excellent_a and_o present_a help_n against_o the_o violent_a assault_n of_o a_o temptation_n and_o all_o those_o flood_n of_o evil_n we_o be_v continual_o expose_v to_o with_o we_o consent_v the_o ancient_a father_n in_o this_o matter_n 235._o matter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n l._n 5._o p._n 234._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 235._o none_o that_o observe_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n do_v worship_n angel_n for_o so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o a_o jewish_a custom_n but_o a_o transgression_n of_o their_o custom_n say_v the_o learned_a origen_n arrian_n origen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4._o cont_n arrian_n jacob_n and_o david_n do_v request_v deliverance_n of_o none_o but_o god_n say_v athanasius_n and_o whereas_o t._n g._n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n 6._o object_n §_o 6._o produce_v those_o word_n of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n as_o a_o example_n of_o this_o invocation_n and_o a_o proof_n that_o it_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a jew_n if_o we_o consider_v what_o the_o father_n have_v deliver_v upon_o this_o text_n and_o how_o express_o they_o assert_v these_o word_n must_v certain_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n we_o may_v admire_v that_o any_o roman_a doctor_n who_o stand_v oblige_v by_o his_o oath_n fidei_fw-la oath_n nec_fw-la eam_fw-la unquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la juxta_fw-la unaniman_n consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la accipiam_fw-la &_o interpretabor_fw-la bulla_n pii_fw-la 4._o super_fw-la forma_fw-la juramenti_fw-la professionis_fw-la fidei_fw-la not_o to_o interpret_v scripture_n but_o according_a to_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n shall_v make_v so_o little_a conscience_n of_o that_o oath_n as_o to_o interpret_v this_o and_o many_o other_o scripture_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o prevail_a judgement_n of_o those_o father_n 2._o it_o be_v admirable_a to_o consider_v with_o what_o incredible_a
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o these_o petition_n prescribe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o often_o tender_v both_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o father_n such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v tender_v to_o a_o creature_n and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o therefore_o athanasius_n to_o the_o arian_n so_o say_v i_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 369._o rome_n contr._n arian_n ora_fw-la 2._o p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o never_o any_o good_a man_n put_v up_o such_o a_o prayer_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v they_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil._n 8._o c._n 16._o v._n 8._o and_o by_o the_o son_n of_o syrach_n to_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a and_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n if_o we_o consider_v who_o this_o angel_n be_v for_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o all_o evil_a must_v be_v that_o very_a angel_n which_o deliver_v he_o from_o laban_n wrath_n and_o from_o the_o fury_n of_o his_o brother_n esau_n now_o the_o angel_n which_o say_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v see_v all_o that_o laban_n do_v unto_o thou_o 13._o 31_o gen._n 13.20_o 28_o gen._n 13._o return_v thou_o therefore_o into_o the_o land_n of_o thy_o kindred_n be_v the_o god_n of_o bethel_n the_o god_n to_o who_o he_o vow_v a_o vow_n that_o god_n who_o do_v appear_v in_o haran_n to_o he_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n and_o the_o fear_n of_o isaac_n that_o rebuke_v laban_n and_o charge_v he_o not_o to_o do_v he_o hurt_v 4._o v._o 29.42.32_o gen._n 23._o 12_o hos_fw-la 4._o the_o angel_n that_o he_o wrestle_v with_o and_o with_o who_o he_o prevail_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n last_o it_o be_v his_o prayer_n to_o this_o god_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n esau_n melt_v into_o expression_n of_o the_o great_a love_n 2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o invoke_v these_o bless_a spirit_n lest_o they_o shall_v worship_v they_o as_o god_n idolatry_n be_v a_o vice_n they_o be_v so_o prone_a upon_o the_o least_o occasion_n to_o commit_v answer_v we_o find_v that_o notwithstanding_o the_o proneness_n of_o this_o people_n to_o that_o sin_n god_n often_o do_v appear_v in_o the_o similitude_n of_o angel_n to_o they_o he_o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o that_o law_n they_o do_v so_o high_o reverence_n he_o use_v their_o ministry_n both_o in_o confer_v of_o the_o choice_a blessing_n on_o his_o people_n and_o the_o inflict_a of_o the_o most_o remarkable_a judgement_n both_o on_o they_o and_o on_o their_o enemy_n and_o he_o deliver_v those_o thing_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o custody_n of_o holy_a angel_n which_o romanist_n conceive_v to_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n and_o motive_n for_o their_o invocation_n whence_o we_o may_v very_o well_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o any_o proneness_n of_o that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v that_o they_o shall_v worship_v what_o be_v invisible_a and_o seldom_o do_v appear_v and_o hence_o we_o find_v this_o people_n continual_o revolt_a from_o the_o invisible_a jehovah_n to_o the_o sun_n moon_n and_o star_n and_o to_o the_o heathen_a deity_n but_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o in_o the_o least_o incline_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o these_o bless_a spirit_n moreover_o if_o we_o do_v consider_v that_o in_o the_o whole_a new_a testament_n 8._o §_o 8._o we_o have_v not_o any_o precept_n to_o enjoin_v example_n to_o commend_v or_o promise_v to_o encourage_v we_o unto_o this_o invocation_n we_o have_v a_o further_a reason_n to_o believe_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n disapprove_v of_o it_o for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n himself_o and_o all_o his_o servant_n and_o apostle_n will_v have_v neglect_v to_o
body_n that_o sustain_v that_o loss_n will_v tell_v we_o where_o this_o lose_a cloak_n be_v if_o god_n do_v either_o from_o the_o law_n of_o friendship_n or_o for_o our_o profit_n reveal_v the_o secret_n of_o man_n heart_n unto_o they_o and_o inform_v both_o saint_n and_o angel_n of_o our_o prayer_n and_o our_o necessity_n why_o shall_v we_o not_o conceive_v that_o he_o be_v as_o ready_a to_o inform_v they_o of_o those_o hide_a and_o contingent_a thing_n which_o it_o as_o much_o concern_v we_o to_o be_v inform_v of_o as_o to_o receive_v a_o answer_n to_o our_o prayer_n v._o g._n if_o he_o inform_v the_o twenty_o martyr_n of_o florentius_n his_o petition_n that_o his_o cloak_n may_v be_v give_v to_o he_o 424._o t._n g._n p._n 423_o 424._o why_o shall_v he_o not_o inform_v they_o where_o it_o be_v or_o if_o those_o bless_a spirit_n do_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o beatific_a vision_n see_v our_o prayer_n and_o want_n why_o shall_v they_o not_o be_v think_v to_o view_v our_o loss_n and_o 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