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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A89836	A discovery of the man of sin, acting in a mystery of iniquitie, pleading for his kingdom, against the coming of Christ to take away sin. Or, an answer to a book set forth by Tho. Weld of Gateshead, Richard Prideaux, Sam. Hamond, Will. Cole, and Will. Durant of Newcastle. By way of reply to an answer of James Nayler's to their former book, called The perfect Pharisee: who call themselves ministers of Christ, but are found ministring for the kingdom of Antichrist. Published for clearing the innocency of the truth from their malicious slanders, and discovering their deceits. By one whom the world calls James Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1654 (1654)	Wing N274; Thomason E738_16; ESTC R202155	50,411	56

in his own power to stand perfect And you are offended that I should say that the book should witness against your false slander and that the word is twice repeated to stand in Gods power and not in his own I answer I shall appeal to any sober Christian who reads the Querie whether the words carry not the very same sense twice over where it is said Able in his power to have stood if they had not for saken his power and consented to the wisdom of the serpent Where if I had spoken of the power of man and woman then it should have been set down their power and not his power which onely holds forth the power of God And for your deceitful reasoning to back your slander wherein you would deny Adam in that state of innocencie to stand in the power of God therein you shew you know not Adam in innocencie nor his standing with God for while he stood he stood in that power and wisdom and counsel of God and the looking out from that was the cause of his fall And here all that ever know Adam in innocencie shall witness against your ignorance and foolishness And whereas you charge George Fox with scoffing at the grace of God and that to pray for the sight of sin and for power from sin is a tempting of God and to pray for light to discover sin and refraining from it are needless I answer This slander comes from the same root of the rest For scoffing at the grace of God it is false I charge you to be lyers in the presence of the living God and you for eternal condemnation for the grace of God he owns as is plain where he saith The free grace of God hath appeared to all men which shews sin and evil which whosoever lives in after it be discovered by the grace of God and yet with a pretence makes a prayer to God to give them a sight of their sins when God hath letten them see their sins freely by his grace and they will not forsake it such tempt God and their prayers are abomination and God will not hear the prayers of them that regard iniquity But how falsly you gather from these words that to pray for power against sin or to refrain from it is to tempt God or a thing needless let any one that fears the Lord judge and witness against your slanderous spirit But wickedness shall be upon the head of the wicked And for the prayers and practice of the Saints which was to overcome and forsake sin them we own and have union with in that which is holy and they witness with us against your practice who live in sin and plead for it and for a pretence make long prayers And for that you call Nayler's lyes because I say you are slanderers which shall appear to be true more and more to all the children of light under your own hands And whereas you would go about to prove Adam in the state of innocencie under the Covenant of Works and that he had the Levitical Law for that is the Covenant of Works I answer What were the works that he was to do for life for the Covenant of Works saith Do this and live but he had the life already while he stood in it and so it was not to be obtained by working and the Scripture saith The Law was added because of transgression which if it had been before the transgression could not have been And Adam in his innocencie stood not by the Moral Law as you call it for that which was given to Adam was Thou shalt not eat which nowhere in Scripture is called the Covenant of Works Thus while you laugh at my ignorance as you say you discover your own wickedness and folly Now to your ninth Position That no man that commits sin or that is not perfectly holy can ever enter into the kingdom of heaven unless there be a Purgatory And in your Reply you think strange that I should deny your wresting of my words to another purpose then for which I spoke them But seeing your charge is grounded upon my Querie why have you altered the words from what I wrote as by inserting the word ever whenas he that hath sinned may repent and so his sin be done away and your adding the words Vnless there be a Purgatory as though I owned a cleansing after death When as the Querie is Whether you own a Purgatory or no who say none can be clean from sin while they live Now I shall appeal to any where there is honesty if you have not wrested my words and you in the Papists minde again in that Querie whenas you charge me with owning a Purgatory which I deny as is plain by these words seeing the tree must lie as it falls this is your deceit which would perswade the Reader to look upon my words according to your false interpretation when you have wrested them and not as I spake them but when my words will not serve you to ground your slanders on as they are set down then you take and alter them for your own ends and that this is not a shuffle and your shuffle I own not which shall stand for your selves but plain dealing in me to clear the truth from your slanders may appear to all who read both our books And whereas you say You have found me out a medium for the washing of the sins of them that die in sins which is neither holiness here nor a purgatory but the blood of the Lord Jesus Now I challenge you to finde one Scripture which saith The blood of Christ cleanseth sinners after death for it is onely effectual to the believers And now let all who know any thing of faith judge if it be not you that are shuffling and put to the pinch you speak of who for clearing your deceit would make people believe that which the Scriptures speak not but is raised in your invention And whereas you charge me with dealing falsly with that Scripture 1 John 1. 7. because I say Doth it say any are cleansed from sin while they personally act sin which I say that Scripture doth not as shall appear to all that read it but quite contrary And whereas you charge me to imitate Satan who when he came to tempt Christ took what Scripture would serve his purpose and leaves out the rest I answer Your slander is false for I mentioned the same Scripture you set down without adding or leaving out and herein I have not wronged you neither will the verse following nor any other Scripture warrant what you speak That a man is cleansed from sin while he personally acts sin but your words are contrary to the words of Christ who saith He that committeth sin is the servant of sin but you say He may act sin and be cleansed from sin Now who deals deceitfully with the Scripture and with mens souls and imitates the father of lyes let

the truth judge And for those words If we say We have no sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us Whoever reads the next words may plainly see that they are spoken of a condition before confession and cleansing else the same Apostle should contradict himself who saith He that abides in Christ sins not and he that commits sin is of the Devil 1 John 3. 6 7 8 9. And he that is born of God sins not which all witness against your deceit and for that in Rom. 4. and 5. It is true no man is justified by his own works for it is he that worketh in us but doth that Scripture say He justifies the ugodly in his ungodliness or him that by faith became obedient as Abraham did And you that would perswade people that Christ will justifie them in their ungodliness count the blood of Christ an unholy thing which is to cleanse people from their sins and not to justifie them in their sins and here I charge you by the blood of Christ to be enemies to the blood of Christ and here you reason to encourage people in ungodliness To your tenth Position No real Saint but he that is perfect and perfectly holy in this life and doth not sin And in your Reply you are offended with our charging you with pleading for sin and you say You foresaw it I answer It seems something in your conscience accused you that we could do no less as may appear to all who read your words who would make people believe the Saints are real and yet live in sin but this is of the same with your former who saith That while a man is cursing and denying Christ he is in a state of justification Now what justification you own all may see when you say He that denies Christ is in a state of justification And whereas you say To discover sin is not to plead for it and many deceitful words you use and brings in a comparison of a Physitian discovering a consumption to that end that the patient may be healed and this you say is the very case between you and Nayler I answer Your comparison will not hold for the Physitian discovers the disease that there may be healing But your discovering is that none can be free from it while they live nor do we say You plead for sin in your discovering of sin but in that you say No man shall ever be without it and here you plead that men shall serve the devil as long as they live for he that commits sin is of the devil and the servant of sin and such a one is the servant of the devil And whereas you say that Nayler will not hear of the Saints being sick or under any spiritual imperfection your Charge is false for the Saints growth I own and the time of a childe I own and the growth till the overcoming and do not deny seeking after the healings of the blood of Christ but witness it effectual for cleansing and overcoming which you deny and say that to witness perfection and holiness and the overcoming of sin is really to plead for sin and to strengthen the bars of the kingdom of Satan And that which the Saints have witnessed and do witness you would render it under the name of Conceit and charge them to make the blood of Christ in vain But whether do they who witness the end for which the blood of Christ was given which is to cleanse from all sin 1 Joh. 1. 7. or they that deny it make it in vain And whereas you say The practice of Quakers both in their speaking and writing is never to send souls to the blood of Christ but to their own light to save them O you filthy slanderers who matter not what you speak against the truth Where did ever the Quakers either in speaking or writing deny the blood of Christ or send any to their own light to save them but to the light of Christ and to the blood of Christ For what is our own is darkness but Christ the light of the world we witness and this light shining out of darkness And whereas you use many words and bring many Scriptures as to make people believe that we hold the blood of Christ needless or that men can be cleansed without it that is your deceit for all are miserable till they be cleansed by Christ and then Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect whose sins are taken away by the Lamb of God And such deny self-righteousnes And though Paul did witness his warfare which we witness also in our measure yet afterward he did witness his overcoming and being more then a conqueror And whereas you talk of covering sins daily his sins who are once covered are not daily to cover but once for ever if he abide in Christ and return not into sin again and are made heirs of the righteousness of God and such deny self-righteousness And whereas you charge us with blasphemous heresie denying the Lord that bought us railing pride lying reproaching the Ordinance of God and Messengers of Jesus we deny it and this shall stand for your selves For blasphemies and heresies you that would draw people from the teachings of Christ are guilty of them and the Lord that bought us we own whom you that are sold to sin cannot witness Railing pride and lying we abhor and witness against them in you who live in them and therefore you hate us The Ordinance of God we own but deny your traditions The Messengers of Jesus we own and their call and deny you who scorn the immediate call of Christ and would cast it off as blasphemy on them whom he hath called and so witness your selves to be of those who run unsent and here you are discovered and your covering is too narrow and your bed is too short And the words of Job we own and deny self-justification and witness our selves justified by Christ and his righteousness brought neer unto us which is not a broken reed as you would call it but will stand us in stead in the evil day And our walking with God in his righteousness is our covering from wrath for which you reproach us and cast it upon us as blasphemy but it is that you may be manifest that you know not the covering of Christs righteousness and holiness in which whoever walk with God are covered from wrath And whereas you say that Christ destroyed the works of the devil for his people upon the Cross and yet men must commit sin while they live here is your confusion laid open to all men and you who live in sin which is a work of the devil he hath not destroyed the works of the devil in you and out of your own mouth be you judged that you are not his people for the work of the devil is alive in you And the cross of Christ you know not for what Christ formerly did destroy upon

the cross for his people he doth the same now and so is the same yesterday to day and for ever Heb. 13. 8. which cross you that live in your pride and lusts of the flesh will not take up and therefore the works of the devil remain in you undestroyed And for the Scriptures you alleadge do any of them say that Christ hath destroyed the works of the devil for them who live in sin for to commit sin is the work of the devil And first you say Christ hath destroyed the works of the devil upon the cross and then you say the works of Satan shall be destroyed in the time appointed of the Father and he shall present us spotless at his coming which time of the Fathers appointment and coming of Christ to present spotless you appear to be ignorant of for the Fathers time is To day to them that will hear his voice And the coming of Christ without sin unto salvation and presenting spotless is witnessed And whereas you go about to make people believe that though they die the servants of sin yet they shall be compleat in Christ and be made glorious and perfect and holy after death which is your own imagination here I charge you in the presence of the living God to be in the Papists faith to encourage people to live in sin while they live and for which you have no Scripture for I challenge you to bring one Scripture which doth say That perfection and holiness are reserved till after death or that any shall inherit them after death or one Scripture that saies Men shall live in sin while they are upon the earth who cannot witness them here but as men die so shall they come to judgement and so shall be proceeded against without any holiness added to them after death And thus you are not afraid to deceive souls and hold things contrary to plain Scripture to deceive withal which at that day you shall accompt for which will be terrible to all deceivers and whereas you would wrest those words of Christ Mat. 5. 18. Not one jot or tittle of the Law shall pass away until all be fulfilled and this you would wrest to make the Law void as though God did not require it to be fulfilled and you say this was the scle and alone work of Christ which work of Christ you know not in your selves who puts it far from you for they who witness the work of Christ they know that he who did fulfil the Law doth fulfil the it in every generation of the Saints who believe in him and so by faith the Law is established and not made void and whereas you say It is not said in all the book of God that the righteousness of the Law is fulfilled in this life in any Saints and here I charge you all to be lyers in the presence of the living God But you say the contrary is asserted I answer It seems you hold a fulfilling of it after death but read Rom. 8. 3 4. and let the Scripture be witness against you which saith in plain words That Christ came for that end to fulfil the Law in the Saints which they could not do through the weakness of the flesh and there is no Scripture that asserts the contrary without your wrestings which I deny as you have wrested and turned many Scriptures here to your own destruction and to destroy others turning them into your sence to another end then for which the holy Ghost gave them forth for the Spirit of God did never give out the Scripture to plead for sin while men live but they are so plain to all your wresting of them that I forbear to mention them in particular and whereas you slander us to hold up Popish notions and inherent holiness that is your own practise and your own words which we deny And you that say May not a man be in part unclean and yet pure and spotless too by reason of imputation Here you now shew your confusion and I command you to shew plain Scripture for this without twining And now let any who sees your pleading for sin and uncleanness which Christ came to take away judge if you are not the upholders of what Christ came to destroy and here you are Antichrists and by your pleading for sin is the man of sin discovered in you who pleads for his kingdom while men live and how I am a Railer for laying open these truths let any judge where the man of sin is discovered and you are found faithful to therein you are in the doctrine of the Papists your Master The eleventh Position That every man in the world hath a light within him sufficient to guide him to salvation without the help of any outward light or discovery And in your Reyly you deceitfully put in that word saving light which is not spoken by me for though Christ be the light of the world that enlightens all yet none are saved by him but who believe and follow him out of the works of darkness but to the rest it is the condemnation that light is come into world and they love darkness and their evil deeds and here are you to be condemned with it who are enemies to the light and pleads against it and so lives in works of darkness And whereas you say None can come except the Father draw them it 's true but those drawings you and all that hate the light do resist And whereas you say Every one that hath heard and learned of the Father cometh to me It 's true and that 's the reason why you who own not the teachings of the Father but counts it blasphemy to witness his voice come not to Christ but are at a distance from him and for John 1. 4 5. which you say Is clear against me and you say They were in darkness for want of light but John saith The light shined in darkness and he came unto his own and they received him not John 1. And here John shews the cause why they were in darkness was because they received not the light for as many as received him became the sons of God and thus what John saith you hold the contrary and you say that of Joh. 3. 19. This is the condemnation that light is come into the world is full against me but how that is full against my witnessing every man to have a light let any man see but you sure think that people are bound to believe any thing you say without any further trial but the light is come and you must now lead none but who are wilfully blinde And for the third branch of my answer That where the light of Christ is there needs no outward discovery to this you say You have abundantly proved that Christ is not in all nor doth enlighten all I answer Your proofs are contrary to plain Scripture in this as in all the rest for the Scripture saith Christ is in all Jew