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not_o pper_o punish_v he_o thus_o you_o say_v 3â—_n say_v pag._n 3â—_n god_n do_v not_o any_o thing_n unto_o he_o and_o 32._o and_o pag._n 32._o who_o do_v crucify_v he_o i_o pray_v you_o god_n or_o the_o jew_n and_o 7â—_n and_o pag._n 7â—_n he_o be_v indeed_o condemn_v by_o man_n that_o give_v wrongful_a sentence_n of_o death_n against_o he_o but_o he_o be_v acquit_v of_o god_n and_o pag._n and_o pag._n christ_n be_v no_o more_o a_o curse_n than_o he_o be_v sin_n who_o indeed_o and_o with_o god_n be_v neither_o 21_o â—roperâ—â—â—hed_a â—â—st_n â—â—or_n 5_o 21_o but_o with_o man_n he_o be_v repute_v both_o wicked_a and_o accurse_v notwithstanding_o the_o very_a truth_n and_o god_n word_n itself_o be_v flat_a contrary_n to_o you_o for_o it_o be_v write_v ah_o have_v make_v he_o sin_n for_o we_o which_o know_v no_o sin_n that_o we_o shall_v be_v make_v the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n in_o he_o yea_o b_o he_o make_v his_o soul_n sin_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o c_o the_o 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last_o day_n and_o hence_o also_o it_o be_v that_o you_o say_v god_n justice_n punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n that_o be_v not_o till_o the_o resurrection_n this_o only_o the_o effect_n of_o you_o speech_n contain_v plain_o and_o full_o yea_o in_o truth_n thus_o you_o must_v needs_o affirm_v and_o hold_v you_o can_v not_o avoid_v it_o if_o you_o will_v hold_v vour_z main_a question_n only_o except_o you_o deny_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o humane_a soul_n perfect_a in_o all_o the_o power_n and_o faculty_n thereof_o like_o we_o or_o else_o that_o god_n do_v not_o proper_o punish_v christ_n for_o our_o sin_n of_o necessity_n you_o must_v fall_v into_o one_o of_o these_o dangerous_a evil_n for_o aught_o that_o i_o yet_o see_v wherefore_o this_o point_n be_v not_o â—_o not_o pag_n â—_o so_o easy_a nor_o so_o evident_a to_o the_o simple_a as_o you_o pretend_v and_o i_o think_v you_o have_v need_n of_o better_a reason_n then_o hitherto_o i_o see_v any_o you_o have_v before_o 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reason_n which_o you_o gather_v out_o of_o he_o prove_v contrary_a to_o the_o same_o that_o the_o soul_n now_o without_o the_o flesh_n receave_v judgement_n for_o such_o action_n as_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v and_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v certain_a action_n of_o itself_o as_o to_o think_v to_o will_v to_o desire_v to_o order_n and_o dispose_v thing_n but_o to_o accomplish_v it_o be_v not_o able_a namely_o outward_a action_n the_o judgement_n of_o which_o action_n indeed_o the_o soul_n shall_v tarry_v for_o till_o the_o reunit_n again_o of_o the_o flesh_n therewith_o it_o seem_v that_o tertullian_n cite_v before_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o lâ—â—_n the_o such_o a_o fore_n not_o 〈◊〉_d pope_n lâ—â—_n heretâ—kes_n hold_v that_o the_o soul_n sleep_v till_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o receive_v no_o reward_n at_o all_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n for_o want_v of_o the_o society_n of_o their_o flesh_n which_o till_o then_o lie_v rot_v in_o the_o grave_a but_o here_o tertullian_n answer_v and_o renounce_v all_o this_o same_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—s_o afterwards_o &_o the_o â—nhapilies_n 〈◊〉_d now_o 〈◊〉_d and_o so_o those_o be_v the_o heretic_n word_n against_o tertullian_n which_o you_o allege_v out_o of_o he_o in_o steed_n of_o catholic_a which_o deal_v what_o it_o be_v i_o leave_v to_o be_v consider_v next_o your_o own_o contradictory_n deal_v in_o this_o place_n be_v also_o not_o to_o be_v forget_v for_o yourself_o shut_v up_o with_o a_o excellent_a reason_n against_o yourself_o almost_o the_o same_o that_o i_o observe_v present_o before_o in_o tertullian_n against_o your_o collection_n thus_o you_o say_v 257._o say_v pag._n 257._o do_v i_o deny_v then_o that_o the_o soul_n have_v any_o suffering_n in_o this_o life_n and_o the_o next_o which_o come_v not_o by_o the_o body_n by_o no_o mean_n the_o soul_n have_v some_o proper_a punishment_n in_o this_o life_n as_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n when_o the_o body_n have_v no_o hurt_n from_o which_o christ_n be_v not_o free_a as_o appeareth_z by_o his_o agony_n and_o so_o in_o the_o next_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o wicked_a have_v grief_n &_o remorse_n beside_o the_o pain_n of_o fire_n etc._n etc._n yes_o sure_o i_o suppose_v you_o deny_v before_o the_o soul_n punishment_n without_o the_o body_n but_o now_o you_o seem_v to_o grant_v it_o and_o see_v you_o grant_v also_o that_o 25â—_n that_o pag._n 25â—_n nothing_o be_v more_o proportionable_a to_o god_n justice_n they_o to_o retain_v the_o same_o order_n in_o punish_v which_o they_o keep_v in_o offend_v therefore_o it_o follow_v by_o your_o own_o word_n that_o the_o wicked_a sometime_o sin_v mere_o in_o and_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o together_o with_o and_o by_o their_o body_n see_v they_o be_v punish_v simple_o in_o and_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o not_o only_o with_o and_o by_o their_o body_n also_o how_o sound_a this_o be_v i_o wot_v not_o 257._o not_o pag._n 257._o where_o you_o yield_v some_o punishment_n now_o to_o the_o damn_a how_o beit_n none_o other_o real_a and_o positive_a punishment_n but_o remorse_n and_o remembrance_n of_o sin_n only_o as_o it_o seem_v again_o in_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o free_a from_o some_o proper_a punishment_n to_o the_o soul_n as_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n in_o his_o agony_n if_o you_o mean_v as_o you_o speak_v that_o these_o be_v proper_a punishment_n inflict_v on_o he_o by_o god_n very_a wrath_n and_o not_o to_o be_v only_o his_o holy_a affection_n devotion_n to_o god_n and_o compassion_n to_o man_n which_o yet_o 18._o yet_o â—esâ—oâ—e_a â—â—g_n 18._o i_o fear_v be_v your_o meaning_n than_o it_o follow_v evident_o from_o your_o own_o word_n that_o christ_n suffer_v proper_a punishment_n in_o his_o soul_n from_o the_o very_a wrath_n of_o god_n more_o than_o the_o bodily_a suffering_n only_o on_o by_o sympathy_n in_o the_o soul_n which_o in_o a_o word_n be_v the_o grant_v of_o our_o whole_a question_n all_o the_o rest_n that_o you_o add_v out_o of_o the_o father_n touch_v hell_n and_o hell_n pain_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n if_o 258.259_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 258.259_o you_o cite_v they_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n have_v no_o natural_a fear_n of_o death_n and_o hell_n you_o 22â—_n you_o â—â—g_v 22â—_n gainsay_v that_o yourself_o further_a than_o we_o do_v or_o then_o the_o truth_n be_v then_o pag._n then_o pag._n you_o come_v to_o my_o other_o reason_n which_o i_o call_v special_a not_o for_o more_o excellency_n in_o they_o then_o in_o the_o other_o except_o only_o that_o i_o take_v these_o to_o be_v not_o so_o general_n as_o the_o former_a but_o more_o near_o to_o touch_v our_o quaestion_n which_o you_o may_v perceive_v well_o enough_o to_o have_v be_v my_o meaning_n by_o the_o express_a opposition_n that_o 3._o that_o treat_n pag._n 3._o i_o make_v of_o general_n and_o special_a but_o it_o appear_v you_o have_v rather_o take_v my_o word_n so_o as_o that_o you_o may_v make_v they_o to_o serve_v your_o unseemly_a jest_n and_o better_a inveigh_v humour_n which_o yet_o in_o the_o end_n will_v help_v your_o cause_n but_o little_a against_o b_o my_o 1._o reason_n out_o of_o i_o say_v that_o christ_n suffer_v those_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n for_o sin_n which_o else_o we_o shall_v have_v bear_v you_o except_v that_o i_o express_v not_o whether_o i_o mean_v all_o or_o some_o i_o answer_v all_z and_o every_o whit_n i_o mean_v so_o far_o as_o possibllity_n will_v admit_v and_o namely_o as_o touch_v the_o very_a sorrow_n and_o pain_n nothing_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o nature_n and_o vehemency_n of_o the_o pain_n which_o he_o suffer_v any_o more_o than_o be_v abate_v in_o the_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n of_o the_o damn_a this_o the_o very_a text_n here_o express_v with_o great_a unto_o great_a which_o faint_a intâ—tations_n 〈◊〉_d 261._o
manhood_n also_o after_o so_o low_a humiliation_n final_o it_o be_v his_o own_o most_o free_a and_o fore_n determine_v will_n will_v he_o then_o so_o mournful_o grieve_v and_o complain_v thereat_o it_o have_v no_o reason_n nor_o likelihood_n in_o it_o 1st_a john_n 1st_a lazarus_n when_o he_o be_v return_v from_o the_o joy_n of_o heaven_n to_o take_v again_o his_o rot_a carcase_n oft_o it_o stanke_z have_v lyen_fw-we 4._o day_n dead_a in_o the_o grave_n yet_o he_o grieve_v not_o at_o it_o neither_o ought_v he_o so_o to_o have_v do_v much_o less_o ought_v christ_n so_o to_o grieve_v and_o mourn_v for_o a_o lesser_a want_n and_o for_o a_o short_a season_n as_o we_o may_v think_v then_o that_o be_v to_o lazarus_n but_o this_o matter_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o speak_n of_o 10â—_o of_o see_v bâ—_n to_o this_o puâ—_n pag._n 10â—_o any_o further_o neither_o do_v your_o father_n prove_v any_o such_o improbable_a yea_o unlawful_a mourning_n &_o complain_v in_o christ_n if_o they_o prove_v any_o 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christ_n bodily_a death_n only_o make_v he_o now_o thus_o to_o cry_v out_o but_o that_o death_n also_o which_o be_v the_o separation_n of_o his_o godhead_n from_o both_o his_o body_n &_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o so_o he_o say_v true_a the_o dereliction_n of_o the_o father_n be_v death_n to_o the_o son_n your_o â—â—â—_o your_o pag._n â—â—â—_o 4._o exposition_n for_o any_o thing_n i_o see_v may_v be_v grant_v for_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n that_o we_o hold_v your_o place_n of_o cyrill_n seem_v also_o to_o concur_v that_o christ_n word_n of_o complaint_n be_v the_o remove_n of_o the_o dereliction_n which_o have_v fall_v on_o us._n be_v it_o remove_v from_o we_o then_o sure_o it_o be_v lay_v upon_o some_o body_n else_o now_o that_o must_v needs_o be_v upon_o
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be_v teach_v in_o our_o homily_n of_o christ_n passion_n for_o you_o say_v thus_o the_o hom_o teach_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n pursue_v christ_n with_o most_o painful_a smart_n and_o anguish_n even_o unto_o death_n and_o force_v the_o weakness_n of_o his_o humane_a flesh_n to_o cry_v my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o here_o i_o be_o sure_a you_o think_v not_o that_o our_o homely_a make_v christ_n piety_n or_o pity_n nor_o yet_o his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n to_o force_v he_o thus_o far_o nor_o in_o those_o word_n next_o follow_v there_o 2._o there_o hom_o â—_o pass_v 2._o o_o that_o mankind_n shall_v put_v the_o everlasting_a son_n of_o god_n in_o such_o pain_n for_o the_o grievousnes_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o in_o truth_n that_o the_o homily_n be_v far_o from_o both_o these_o your_o meaning_n i_o have_v plain_o show_v 6_o show_v pag._n 6_o before_o add_v hereunto_o the_o full_a and_o large_a declaration_n hereof_o in_o the_o authorise_a catechism_n techisâ—â—_n catechism_n now_o techisâ—â—_n christ_n suffer_v not_o only_o a_o common_a death_n in_o sight_n of_o man_n but_o à lso_o be_v thorough_o touch_v with_o the_o horror_n of_o eternal_a death_n he_o fight_v and_o wrestle_v as_o it_o be_v hand_n to_o hand_n with_o the_o whole_a army_n of_o hell_n before_o god_n judgement_n seat_n he_o put_v himself_o under_o the_o heavy_a and_o grievous_a severity_n of_o god_n punishment_n he_o be_v drive_v to_o most_o hard_a strait_n he_o suffer_v for_o we_o and_o go_v through_o horrible_a fear_n and_o moct_v bitter_a sorrow_n of_o the_o mind_n that_o he_o may_v in_o all_o thing_n satisfy_v the_o just_a judgement_n of_o god_n &_o appease_v his_o wrath_n for_o to_o sinner_n who_o person_n christ_n do_v here_o bear_v not_o only_o the_o sorrow_n and_o torment_n of_o present_a death_n be_v due_a but_o also_o of_o death_n to_o come_v and_o everlasting_a so_o when_o he_o do_v take_v upon_o he_o and_o bear_v both_o the_o guiltiness_n and_o just_a pain_n of_o mankind_n damn_v and_o lose_v he_o be_v affect_v with_o so_o grievous_a fear_n trouble_n and_o sorrow_n of_o the_o mind_n or_o soul_n that_o he_o cry_v out_o my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o final_o the_o annotation_n of_o our_o great_a â—_o great_a bibl._n 1591._o &_o â—_o bible_n authorize_v and_o appoint_v to_o be_v read_v in_o our_o church_n iustify_v all_o this_o say_n 2d_o say_n annoâ—_n luk._n 2d_o christ_n here_o feel_v the_o horror_n of_o god_n wrath_n and_o judgement_n against_o sin_n i_o pray_v who_o be_v that_o egregious_a liar_n now_o i_o hope_v for_o my_o part_n i_o have_v speak_v the_o truth_n in_o avouch_v my_o doctrine_n &_o that_o forenote_v proposition_n &_o assumption_n also_o by_o you_o deny_v to_o be_v our_o public_a doctrine_n and_o full_o authorize_v in_o england_n wherefore_o you_o may_v mean_v some_o other_o to_o be_v â—â—_o be_v pag._n â—â—_o a_o giddy_a spirit_n late_o buzz_v in_o the_o people_n ear_n the_o contrary_a i_o hope_v i_o be_o clear_a from_o it_o and_o thus_o it_o remain_v that_o we_o conclude_v even_o our_o whole_a reason_n to_o be_v firm_a &_o true_a which_o be_v 9â—_n be_v pag._n 9â—_n before_o deliver_v the_o pain_n of_o christ_n passion_n which_o now_o he_o feel_v and_o fear_v be_v the_o principal_a and_o proper_a cause_n of_o those_o his_o agony_n but_o his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n and_o death_n or_o the_o fear_n of_o they_o cause_v no_o such_o thing_n and_o lamentable_a effect_n in_o christ_n much_o less_o do_v his_o piety_n and_o pity_n therefore_o christ_n feel_v and_o fear_v pain_n more_o and_o infinite_o great_a then_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n and_o death_n which_o be_v the_o principal_a and_o proper_a cause_n of_o this_o strange_a plight_n in_o he_o which_o consequent_o can_v be_v none_o other_o by_o necessary_a reason_n than_o the_o pain_n and_o sense_n of_o god_n wrath_n in_o his_o spirit_n proper_o therefore_o christ_n suffer_v that_o also_o and_o not_o only_o in_o body_n as_o you_o hold_v howbeit_o you_o have_v yet_o here_o and_o there_o some_o exception_n against_o this_o our_o doctrine_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v clean_o neglect_v first_o you_o say_v 290._o â—ag_n 290._o a_o i_o extend_v châ—istes_n agony_n too_o far_o because_o i_o will_v have_v it_o proceed_v from_o b_o the_o intolerable_a sorrow_n and_o horror_n of_o god_n fiery_a wrath_n equal_a to_o hell_n 80._o treat_n 1._o â—â—g_n 80._o i_o show_v not_o there_o the_o cause_n of_o christ_n agony_n and_o fear_n i_o show_v it_o of_o purpose_n in_o the_o c_o beginning_n why_o do_v you_o not_o refuse_v that_o 7_o treat_n 1._o â—ag_n 6_o 7_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v deal_v direct_o against_o that_o which_o i_o express_o mention_v to_o have_v be_v the_o cause_n thus_o i_o say_v his_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o sin_n the_o cup_n of_o affliction_n and_o sorrow_n which_o now_o he_o feel_v and_o be_v to_o feel_v yet_o further_o cause_v he_o to_o mourn_v and_o fear_n say_v then_o plain_o that_o this_o cause_n be_v mistake_v and_o too_o far_o extend_v or_o else_o you_o say_v nothing_o to_o we_o but_o by_o indirect_a and_o preposterous_a collection_n now_o if_o this_o cause_n which_o we_o give_v and_o do_v give_v be_v true_a and_o right_a as_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v before_o prove_v more_o than_o sufficient_o than_o i_o doubt_v not_o it_o be_v as_o true_a also_o by_o invincible_a reason_n that_o christ_n suffer_v the_o intolerable_a sorrow_n &_o horror_n of_o god_n fiery_a wrath_n equal_a to_o hell_n which_o i_o hope_v also_o be_v as_o full_o prove_v 117_o â—â—g_v 91._o 117_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o our_o d_o assumption_n before_o see_v it_o can_v not_o be_v his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n much_o less_o his_o holy_a affection_n as_o you_o hold_v that_o bring_v he_o to_o this_o miraculous_a misery_n and_o distress_n wherein_o we_o see_v by_o the_o text_n he_o be_v therefore_o they_o be_v the_o intolerable_a and_o incomprehensible_a dolour_n of_o his_o spirit_n questionless_a which_o wrought_v the_o same_o there_o be_v no_o other_o sorrow_n in_o the_o world_n to_o be_v find_v which_o can_v be_v imagine_v to_o be_v the_o cause_n possible_o 290._o â—ag_n 290._o and_o then_o my_o other_o word_n also_o which_o e_o hear_v you_o cruel_o condemn_v shall_v stand_v well_o enough_o *_o that_o christ_n as_o touch_v the_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n be_v as_o sharp_o touch_v as_o the_o reprobat_n themselves_o 81._o â—reat_a 1._o â—â—g_n 81._o yea_o if_o it_o may_v be_v more_o extraordinary_o though_o you_o labour_v with_o might_n and_o main_a to_o make_v they_o amount_v to_o heresy_n &_o open_a blasphemy_n but_o why_o do_v you_o not_o bend_v your_o odious_a outcry_n and_o accusation_n against_o that_o authority_n before_o true_o cite_v
rather_o not_o remember_v where_o you_o will_v 296._o will_v pag._n 296._o wring_v out_o a_o contrariety_n in_o my_o word_n as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o depth_n of_o his_o astonishment_n do_v then_o perfect_o know_v that_o the_o dominion_n of_o death_n shall_v not_o hold_v he_o you_o do_v i_o wrong_n i_o say_v not_o so_o in_o that_o place_n i_o argue_v from_o your_o supposition_n that_o if_o christ_n be_v now_o not_o astonish_v but_o in_o his_o perfect_a memory_n and_o full_a consider_v of_o such_o thing_n as_o you_o seem_v to_o affirm_v but_o i_o deny_v which_o otherwise_o he_o know_v well_o than_o it_o can_v not_o be_v the_o dominion_n of_o death_n that_o he_o thus_o fear_v since_o in_o his_o firm_a estate_n he_o know_v perfect_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o prevail_v over_o he_o to_o conclude_v this_o matter_n thus_o we_o may_v see_v how_o without_o colour_n of_o reason_n 297._o reason_n pag._n 297._o you_o wrest_v a_o plain_a text_n which_o otherwise_o take_v as_o it_o lie_v make_v strong_o against_o you_o they_o be_v our_o saviour_n christ_n own_o word_n 12._o word_n joh._n 12._o now_o be_v my_o soul_n trouble_v &_o what_o shall_v i_o say_v father_n save_v i_o from_o this_o hour_n but_o therefore_o come_v i_o unto_o this_o hour_n you_o say_v these_o word_n do_v import_v a_o deliberation_n of_o 2._o part_n but_o you_o speak_v against_o all_o reason_n consider_v the_o nature_n and_o frame_n of_o the_o very_a word_n a_o deliberation_n must_v needs_o be_v set_v interrogative_o in_o both_o clause_n thus_o what_o shall_v i_o say_v father_n save_v i_o from_o this_o hour_n now_o the_o text_n be_v not_o so_o it_o pretend_v a_o plain_a resolution_n or_o at_o least_o a_o great_a incline_n towards_o resolution_n thus_o father_n save_v i_o from_o this_o hour_n it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o deliberation_n chrysostom_n and_o epiphanius_n do_v descant_n about_o it_o try_v how_o the_o text_n may_v bear_v such_o a_o meaning_n but_o it_o can_v stand_v be_v so_o evident_o against_o the_o course_n of_o the_o text_n â—â—â—o_fw-la chrysost_n â—â—b_v lacet_fw-la turbatio_fw-la dâ—â—eâ—e_fw-la 〈◊〉_d servaâ—â—â—â—_n contrariâ—â—â—_n tamen_fw-la â—â—â—o_fw-la you_o say_v s._n john_n beer_n speak_v of_o another_o time_n and_o place_n what_o then_o yet_o he_o may_v speak_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n namely_o of_o his_o passion_n or_o of_o a_o foretaste_n thereof_o which_o indeed_o the_o text_n itself_o m_o show_v that_o he_o do_v speak_v of_o wherefore_o neither_o can_v we_o deny_v heerâ—pon_o â—oh_o 12.31_o â—_o 33_o &_o all_o titer_n heerâ—pon_o but_o this_o place_n of_o scripture_n even_o as_o the_o other_o about_o his_o pray_v in_o the_o garden_n do_v sure_o confirm_v that_o his_o passion_n be_v more_o than_o mere_a bodily_a which_o do_v so_o miraculous_o terrify_v he_o it_o can_v be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o pain_n of_o the_o infinite_a wrath_n of_o god_n upon_o his_o soul_n hence_o also_o i_o reason_v effectual_o n_o before_o 63._o treat_n 1._o pa._n 1._o 63._o but_o not_o where_o you_o answer_v it_o if_o christ_n such_o suffering_n in_o his_o soul_n be_v ordain_v of_o god_n for_o he_o then_o most_o certain_o indeed_o he_o do_v suffer_v the_o same_o now_o we_o see_v such_o suffering_n be_v ordain_v for_o he_o see_v he_o say_v but_o therefore_o come_v i_o unto_o this_o hour_n therefore_o most_o certain_o indeed_o he_o do_v suffer_v they_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o yet_o further_o you_o except_v &c_n pa._n 22_o 23._o â—oo_o &c_n &c_n where_o you_o avouch_v that_o this_o be_v a_o fear_n of_o eternal_a death_n and_o everlasting_a damnation_n which_o cause_v in_o christ_n this_o agony_n and_o from_o his_o fear_n he_o be_v deliver_v ergo_fw-la he_o suffer_v not_o that_o which_o he_o fear_v first_o i_o grant_v indeed_o this_o be_v the_o 2._o death_n the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n or_o hell_n torment_n which_o christ_n here_n b_o fear_z neither_o can_v this_o by_o any_o mean_n be_v deny_v as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v howbeit_o to_o say_v as_o you_o do_v that_o it_o be_v eternal_a death_n and_o everlasting_a malediction_n which_o here_o christ_n thus_o woeful_o &_o distresful_o fear_v be_v the_o strange_a speech_n in_o divinity_n that_o ever_o i_o hear_v see_v you_o can_v not_o help_v yove_o self_n in_o make_v christ_n fear_n of_o this_o death_n to_o be_v only_o a_o c_o religious_a fear_n 23._o pag._n 23._o &_o do_v a_o fear_n for_o other_o these_o imagination_n i_o have_v remove_v e_o before_o 304._o pag_n 304._o every_o reader_n will_v easy_o see_v in_o his_o own_o judgement_n that_o these_o affection_n so_o vehement_a be_v not_o likely_a at_o this_o season_n etc._n pag_n 93_o 94._o etc._n etc._n nor_o likely_a in_o he_o at_o all_o much_o less_o likely_a to_o be_v cause_n of_o such_o effect_n again_o these_o be_v not_o fear_v proper_o they_o ought_v rather_o to_o be_v call_v as_o they_o be_v a_o religious_a care_n commiseraetion_n and_o pity_n which_o differ_v great_o from_o the_o nature_n of_o fear_n proper_o take_v such_o as_o we_o ought_v to_o conceive_v in_o this_o place_n 305._o pag._n 305._o you_o think_v the_o f_o nature_n of_o eulabia_fw-la will_v not_o admit_v any_o proper_a fear_n &_o namely_o not_o perplex_a fear_n as_o i_o take_v it_o here_o to_o signify_v but_o a_o careful_a &_o diligent_a regard_n to_o beware_v and_o decline_v that_o which_o we_o mislike_v or_o doubt_v what_o say_v you_o do_v christ_n doubt_v eternal_a damnation_n and_o therefore_o fear_v it_o you_o speak_v so_o dark_o that_o i_o know_v not_o how_o to_o take_v you_o but_o it_o may_v be_v you_o mean_v he_o himself_o mislike_v it_o only_o and_o be_v sorry_a for_o other_o who_o run_v headlong_o into_o it_o but_o all_o this_o still_o be_v nothing_o else_o save_o piety_n in_o he_o proper_o yea_o and_o so_o you_o say_v this_o come_v near_a to_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n i_o grant_v it_o do_v touch_v eulabia_fw-la but_o in_o mark_n the_o berâ—thaâ—_n the_o lâ—kthamâ—_n berâ—thaâ—_n word_n do_v import_v proper_o fear_v and_o that_o in_o extremity_n again_o touch_v eulabia_fw-la my_o reason_n that_o here_o it_o signify_v fear_v proper_o yea_o a_o perplex_a fear_n and_o not_o not_o only_o a_o religious_a devotion_n as_o you_o say_v be_v ground_v not_o so_o much_o on_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n as_o on_o the_o circumstance_n and_o the_o other_o word_n of_o this_o text_n 5.7_o text_n heb._n 5.7_o christ_n in_o the_o day_n of_o his_o flesh_n offer_v up_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n with_o strong_a cry_v and_o tear_n unto_o he_o that_o be_v able_a to_o save_v he_o from_o death_n and_o be_v hear_v in_o that_o which_o he_o fear_v here_o these_o other_o word_n do_v show_v that_o this_o fear_n be_v more_o than_o a_o careful_a regard_n to_o beware_v that_o which_o he_o mislike_v it_o be_v no_o less_o in_o deed_n then_o a_o perplex_a and_o trouble_a fear_n woeful_o dread_v that_o which_o he_o be_v to_o suffer_v which_o also_o the_o strange_a and_o wonderful_a sign_n thereof_o in_o the_o garden_n do_v more_o than_o confirm_v as_o i_o have_v show_v 127_o show_v pag._n 11â—_n 116._o 127_o often_o thus_o my_o meaning_n be_v that_o the_o nature_n of_o eulabia_fw-la admit_v the_o sense_n some_o time_n of_o fear_n proper_o admit_v here_o this_o sense_n yea_o of_o necessity_n it_o must_v admit_v it_o for_o the_o reason_n note_v above_o howbeit_o i_o grant_v the_o apostle_n may_v intend_v this_o also_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o word_n that_o christ_n notwitstand_v all_o this_o dreadful_a fear_n yet_o be_v mere_o natural_a in_o he_o it_o decline_v not_o a_o jot_n from_o piety_n nor_o from_o a_o most_o reverend_a regard_n of_o obedience_n to_o god_n which_o still_o in_o all_o this_o his_o perplexity_n he_o keep_v firm_a and_o safe_a this_o he_o may_v withal_o i_o grant_v insinuat_fw-la yet_o the_o other_o proper_a fear_n &_o grievous_a dread_n must_v needs_o be_v admit_v to_o like_o effect_v this_o word_n signify_v in_o that_o place_n of_o the_o 23._o the_o act._n 23._o act_n as_o the_o circunstance_n there_o also_o will_v confirm_v now_o than_o this_o be_v in_o christ_n a_o proper_a and_o most_o vehement_a fear_n where_o you_o argue_v christ_n be_v deliver_v from_o his_o fear_n of_o hell_n torment_n or_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n ergo_fw-la he_o suffer_v they_o not_o i_o deny_v your_o sequel_n this_o prove_v direct_o the_o contrary_a he_o fear_v the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n special_o he_o thus_o fear_v it_o ergo_fw-la he_o do_v suffer_v it_o for_o fear_v be_v of_o that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v as_o 30â—_n as_o pag._n 30â—_n you_o well_o observe_v ergo_fw-la see_v christ_n fear_v yea_o in_o such_o manner_n the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n it_o sure_o come_v unto_o he_o namely_o
either_o now_o or_o before_o he_o die_v in_o the_o flesh_n or_o both_o now_o &_o then_o also_o for_o he_o may_v well_o suffer_v it_o even_o now_o and_o yet_o fear_v it_o more_o ensue_a yea_o such_o a_o manner_n &_o measure_n of_o fear_n as_o this_o manifest_o be_v can_v not_o be_v but_o a_o very_a suffer_v of_o these_o spiritual_a sorrow_n which_o also_o that_o show_v where_o he_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o actual_a sorrow_n even_o unto_o death_n etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v there_o in_o this_o any_o a_o doubt_n full_a word_n 304._o pag._n 304._o which_o be_v your_o manner_n of_o writing_n 296._o pag._n 296._o nor_o b_o device_n unfit_a for_o divinity_n but_o your_o comparison_n of_o c_o fear_v captivity_n 301._o pag._n 301._o lose_v a_o purse_n etc._n etc._n be_v very_o unfit_a to_o be_v match_v with_o this_o fear_n in_o christ_n 302._o pag._n 302._o you_o think_v this_o be_v but_o a_o d_o jest_n if_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v hear_v christ_n and_o deliver_v he_o from_o that_o he_o fear_v and_o yet_o to_o let_v he_o suffer_v it_o forsooth_o no_o jest_n for_o he_o doubtless_o suffer_v it_o as_o before_o we_o have_v see_v now_o nevertheless_o god_n may_v well_o hear_v he_o 2._o way_n 1._o by_o sufficient_a sustain_v he_o in_o it_o 2._o by_o deliver_v he_o out_o of_o it_o in_o due_a time_n in_o one_o place_n you_o seem_v to_o observe_v a_o point_n both_o strange_a and_o very_o contrary_a to_o yourself_o 119_o pa._n 118._o 119_o in_o say_v e_o fear_n be_v more_o intolerable_a in_o christ_n they_o doubt_v be_v fear_n so_o intolerable_a a_o thing_n for_o he_o when_o as_o you_o have_v so_o often_o and_o so_o earnest_o affirm_v that_o he_o fear_v 124._o pa._n 22._o 124._o and_o for_o f_o fear_n become_v thus_o astonish_v 303._o pag._n 303._o where_o *_o you_o seek_v a_o weak_a advantage_n in_o that_o i_o say_v eisakoustheis_n may_v seem_v to_o show_v that_o christ_n be_v hear_v be_v in_o that_o which_o he_o be_v save_v from_o you_o see_v i_o challenge_v no_o certain_a but_o a_o seem_a reason_n from_o that_o word_n but_o yourself_o make_v a_o strange_a conclusion_n ergo_fw-la the_o active_a refer_v to_o god_n import_v that_o god_n be_v in_o the_o same_o pain_n do_v hear_v he_o last_o you_o say_v g_o indeed_o but_o in_o the_o garden_n christ_n never_o pray_v with_o strong_a cry_n &_o tear_n to_o be_v save_v from_o death_n 22_o pag._n 22_o that_o we_o read_v in_o the_o scripture_n i_o hope_v neither_o do_v you_o read_v express_o in_o the_o scripture_n at_o all_o that_o thus_o he_o pray_v in_o the_o garden_n you_o may_v sound_o gather_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n i_o grant_v 12.27_o joh._n 12.27_o and_o so_o you_o may_v that_o his_o pray_v h_o before_o be_v of_o the_o self_n same_o nature_n and_o manner_n also_o after_o in_o that_o most_o doleful_a complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n when_o he_o cry_v my_o god_n my_o god_n why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o where_o the_o very_a like_o request_n be_v plain_o imply_v as_o he_o make_v in_o the_o garden_n when_o he_o say_v let_v this_o cup_n pass_v from_o 5.7_o jeb_n 5.7_o so_o that_o the_o i_o apostle_n in_o all_o reason_n may_v be_v understand_v to_o have_v respect_n to_o all_o these_o time_n and_o woeful_a cry_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n 30._o pag._n 30._o and_o thus_o it_o be_v without_o all_o reason_n that_o you_o say_v k_o his_o agony_n end_v in_o the_o garden_n 116_o pa._n 115._o 116_o and_o that_o on_o the_o cross_n he_o have_v l_o always_o persistance_n in_o joy_n without_o obscuration_n or_o intermission_n likewise_o also_o that_o otherwise_o his_o astonishment_n must_v â—â—_o must_v pag._n â—â—_o continue_v 18._o hour_n from_o his_o enter_v into_o the_o garden_n after_o supper_n to_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n the_o next_o day_n at_o 3._o of_o the_o clock_n after_o noon_n how_o vain_a be_v this_o consequence_n how_o false_a be_v these_o say_n and_o contrary_a to_o scripture_n in_o all_o the_o circumstance_n but_o you_o say_v 30._o say_v pa._n 30._o the_o cause_n continue_v the_o effect_n can_v not_o cease_v the_o cause_n be_v god_n leave_v his_o weak_a nature_n in_o these_o sorrow_n at_o sometime_o more_o at_o sometime_o less_o also_o he_o be_v to_o be_v think_v to_o reveal_v and_o inflict_v the_o very_a sorrow_n not_o always_o in_o one_o tenor_n but_o sometime_o more_o sometime_o less_o final_o his_o manhood_n apprehend_v these_o arrow_n of_o god_n wrath_n sometime_o more_o sudden_o then_o at_o other_o time_n these_o be_v the_o true_a cause_n of_o his_o astonishment_n but_o these_o continue_v not_o 18._o hour_n together_o therefore_o the_o effect_n be_v not_o to_o continue_v still_o in_o that_o manner_n on_o he_o then_o you_o 29_o you_o pag._n 29_o say_v in_o the_o utter_n of_o these_o word_n the_o cup_n do_v pass_v from_o he_o by_o my_o own_o confession_n i_o confess_v it_o not_o but_o i_o confess_v his_o extreme_a astonishment_n do_v even_o quick_o pass_v from_o he_o yet_o the_o sense_n and_o taste_v of_o that_o cup_n may_v continue_v long_o in_o such_o a_o manner_n and_o measure_n as_o he_o be_v better_o enable_v by_o his_o deity_n to_o sustain_v it_o now_o what_o ill_a be_v there_o in_o these_o conceit_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o folly_n be_v there_o in_o they_o against_o we_o herein_o you_o do_v nothing_o else_o almost_o in_o your_o large_a treatise_n sâ—eacheâ—_n injurious_a sâ—eacheâ—_n but_o heap_v up_o many_o and_o most_o false_a imputarion_n that_o we_o think_v christ_n be_v in_o 1st_a in_o pag._n â—â—â—_o 116._o 1st_a doubt_n and_o fear_n of_o god_n favour_n 1st_a favour_n pag._n 1st_a destitute_a of_o faith_n hope_n love_n joy_n forsake_v of_o god_n favour_n grace_n spirit_n that_o â—â—â—_o that_o pag._n â—â—â—_o he_o continue_v 18._o hour_n together_o amaze_v as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o trance_n that_o he_o â—â—â—_o he_o pag._n â—â—â—_o vehement_o and_o often_o struggle_v and_o strive_v in_o his_o prayer_n against_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n &_o seek_v by_o all_o mean_n to_o decline_v the_o 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speech_n how_o you_o seem_v to_o avouch_v that_o christ_n be_v by_o god_n forsake_v in_o a_o body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 114.116_o â—â—2_n 103_o â—â—ore_a 〈◊〉_d but_o not_o in_o b_o soul_n let_v they_o declare_v that_o can_v for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v not_o your_o secret_n therein_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o man_n can_v in_o truth_n maintain_v it_o as_o for_o c_o ambrosâ—_n pag._n 114._o â—â—â—e_a pag._n 113._o 128._o 1â—0_o 〈◊〉_d 1._o of_o yeâ—â—â—ion_n see_v â—â—â—re_v pag._n you_o wrest_v he_o as_o you_o do_v hilary_n &c_n &c_n do_v before_o after_o this_o you_o be_v bold_a and_o ask_v if_o e_z any_o dare_v doubt_n of_o your_o doctrine_n yea_o sure_o i_o dare_v not_o but_o doubt_n of_o it_o also_o we_o have_v see_v that_o the_o public_a f_o authorize_v doctrine_n in_o england_n dare_v to_o doubt_v of_o it_o which_o make_v christ_n put_v himself_o between_o god_n wrath_n and_o our_o sin_n a_o part_n divers_a from_o his_o bodily_a death_n on_o the_o cross_n â—_o â—â—â—ore_a pag._n â—_o yet_o 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death_n of_o the_o soul_n for_o he_o can_v not_o i_o say_v thus_o â—â—â—don_n thus_o much_o yield_v to_o iâ—_n he_o do_v sâ—â—ing_n thy_o â—â—â—don_n fear_v but_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v that_o it_o be_v to_o come_v or_o may_v come_v unto_o he_o 131.132_o â—wed_a furâ—â—_n before_o 131.132_o if_o he_o but_o know_v that_o it_o may_v come_v than_o it_o *_o certain_o do_v come_v unto_o he_o at_o one_o time_n or_o other_o in_o his_o passion_n before_o heâ—_n leave_v the_o world_n see_v to_o the_o hebr._n g_o christ_n abolish_v through_o death_n he_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o death_n that_o be_v the_o devil_n and_o so_o deliver_v all_o they_o which_o for_o fear_n of_o death_n be_v all_o their_o life_n time_n subject_a to_o bondage_n 2.14_o â—â—b_fw-la 2.14_o here_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n by_o â—his_n often_o repeat_v of_o death_n and_o by_o mutual_a refer_v of_o it_o in_o one_o place_n as_o it_o be_v to_o the_o other_o do_v 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deo_fw-la the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v god_n forsake_v of_o it_o 134._o â—â—fore_o pag._n â—_o 113._o â—_o 108._o 113_o â—_o 134._o but_o the_o scripture_n say_v god_n do_v leave_v he_o or_o forsake_v he_o for_o a_o season_n yea_o the_o father_n also_o c_o agree_v full_o thereunto_o the_o manner_n how_o do_v i_o have_v show_v before_o therefore_o by_o augustine_n definition_n large_o and_o right_o take_v christ_n may_v be_v say_v in_o some_o sense_n to_o have_v dye_v in_o soul_n howbeit_o though_o the_o father_n do_v grant_v the_o thing_n in_o effect_n as_o i_o have_v show_v yet_o i_o acknowledge_v they_o do_v deny_v this_o phrase_n general_o and_o so_o do_v austin_n in_o this_o place_n but_o thereabouts_o we_o never_o make_v question_n this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o our_o matter_n it_o may_v be_v even_o for_o the_o same_o cause_n they_o shun_v it_o for_o which_o we_o also_o do_v use_v it_o very_o rare_o and_o wary_o as_o before_o i_o observe_v 136._o pag_n 136._o and_o let_v this_o be_v the_o answer_n touch_v all_o your_o father_n and_o counsel_n which_o you_o bring_v abundant_o here_o and_o there_o about_o this_o point_n of_o the_o soul_n death_n though_o peradventure_o some_o of_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o insinuat_fw-la even_o this_o very_a phrase_n touch_v christ_n sometime_o as_o in_o some_o i_o touch_v before_o where_o you_o say_v 317._o â—â—g_v 317._o †_o ask_v the_o simple_a child_n that_o be_v catechize_v in_o my_o charge_n if_o i_o have_v any_o what_o death_n christ_n die_v for_o we_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v i_o out_o of_o his_o creed_n christ_n be_v crucify_a dead_a &_o bury_v it_o be_v true_a but_o our_o authorize_v catechism_n publish_v by_o m._n nowell_n and_o the_o homily_n i_o show_v the_o meaning_n hereof_o to_o be_v 117.â—_n 〈◊〉_d before_o 〈◊〉_d 67_o 117.â—_n that_o christ_n suffer_v far_o more_o sharp_o they_o mere_a bodily_a death_n even_o the_o infinite_a pain_n of_o god_n wrath_n in_o his_o soul_n which_o i_o point_v you_o unto_o 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sense_n it_o be_v that_o the_o reprobate_n and_o the_o elect_a after_o death_n be_v say_v to_o be_v together_o 28.19_o â—â—n_fw-la 28.19_o a_o to_o morrow_n thou_o &_o thy_o son_n shall_v be_v with_o we_o say_v the_o suppose_a samuel_n to_o saul_n not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o positive_a thing_n common_a to_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobate_n after_o death_n which_o b_o you_o observe_v well_o 209._o â—â—g_v 396._o 〈◊〉_d simpâ—â—li_n â—â—qaest_a 3._o â—â—g_n 209._o but_o only_a that_o they_o be_v alike_o dead_a and_o alike_o remain_v in_o death_n yet_o i_o say_v they_o be_v not_o like_o any_o further_a this_o c_o aust_n very_o well_o show_v who_o you_o do_v bring_v say_v he_o mortuus_fw-la mortem_fw-la vivo_fw-la proenuntiabat_fw-la hadea_n father_n 〈◊〉_d it_o i_o our_o 〈◊〉_d of_o hadea_n that_o be_v be_v dead_a he_o foreshow_v death_n to_o he_o that_o yet_o live_v so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o condition_n of_o death_n both_o to_o saul_n and_o samuel_n but_o not_o the_o same_o 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creatorem_fw-la vbi_fw-la est_fw-la hades_n est_fw-la sheol_n 〈◊〉_d hades_n mors_fw-la victoria_fw-la vel_fw-la contentio_fw-la tua_fw-la vbi_fw-la est_fw-la mors_fw-la aculeus_fw-la tuus_fw-la verbum_fw-la autem_fw-la hoc_fw-la creatoris_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la prophetam_fw-la it_o be_v write_v by_o the_o creator_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o victory_n or_o thy_o force_n or_o strife_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o sting_n this_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n god_n by_o the_o prophet_n ozee_n still_o he_o make_v hades_n &_o sheol_n nothing_o else_o but_o death_n in_o these_o place_n and_o say_v he_o deo_fw-la gratias_fw-la dicit_fw-la â—_o dicit_fw-la 1_o cor._n â—_o apostolus_fw-la quod_fw-la nobis_fw-la victoriam_fw-la utique_fw-la de_fw-la morte_fw-la prestitit_fw-la the_o apostle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n apply_v word_n of_o the_o prophet_n to_o the_o resurrection_n give_v thanks_o to_o god_n because_o he_o cause_v we_o to_o get_v a_o victory_n indeed_o of_o death_n so_o 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omni_fw-la loco_fw-la aut_fw-la statû_fw-fr mortuorum_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la promiscuè_fw-fr atque_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la sensum_fw-la lazarus_n &_o dives_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la collocantur_fw-la 55._o 〈◊〉_d before_o â—â—â—g_v 162._o â—â—â—m_v de_fw-fr â—it_n 〈◊〉_d anima_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 55._o quomodo_n b_o irenaeus_n &_o c_o chrysostomus_n ex_fw-la verbis_fw-la luc._n 16.23_o locuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o tertullÃanus_fw-la locis_fw-la quamplurimis_fw-la this_o therefore_o it_o be_v that_o tertullian_n say_v in_o another_o place_n d_o constituimus_fw-la omnem_fw-la animam_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la sequestrari_fw-la in_o diem_fw-la iudicij_fw-la we_o determine_v that_o every_o man_n soul_n be_v keep_v apart_o in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o be_v all_o soul_n they_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o death_n penes_fw-la inferos_fw-la will_v you_o will_v you_o there_o you_o shall_v find_v punishment_n and_o comfort_n as_o in_o 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well_o as_o his_o body_n to_o come_v to_o the_o grave_a servaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d koinoâ—â—â—â—ôpos_n â—â—â—em_fw-la morâ—â—â—_n servaâ—â—_n that_o right_a well_o prove_v he_o in_o deed_n to_o have_v be_v a_o true_a man_n and_o whole_o in_o nature_n like_o all_o other_o man_n also_o this_o be_v indeed_o the_o law_n of_o humane_a necessity_n after_o the_o like_a phrase_n as_o a_o justin_n same_o â—â—â—gi_fw-la satisfaâ—â—â—_n forma_fw-la huâ—â—â—_n mortis_fw-la â—â—â—us_fw-la â—ag_n 157._o â—efore_o 〈◊〉_d death_n &_o â—â—es_n aâ—e_v uâ—â—â—or_n the_o same_o b_o irenaeus_n and_o c_o tertullian_n also_o speak_v but_o not_o to_o go_v to_o hell_n now_o this_o death_n proper_o belong_v to_o the_o body_n of_o man_n d_o as_o it_o be_v leave_v without_o life_n also_o no_o less_o proper_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n as_o it_o be_v dissolve_v and_o destroy_v thereby_o three_o by_o consequence_n it_o belong_v to_o both_o the_o dissolve_a part_n yea_o even_o to_o the_o immortal_a 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perhaps_o when_o it_o come_v into_o the_o common_a creed_n they_o signify_v hereby_o christ_n go_v to_o limbus_n which_o opinion_n indeed_o man_n general_o incline_v unto_o though_o erroneous_o for_o many_o year_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_n put_v this_o descend_v to_o hade_n meaning_n limbus_n or_o howsoever_o into_o the_o vulgar_a creed_n distinct_o from_o both_o the_o other_o foresay_a clause_n i_o believe_v not_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v afterwards_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v but_o to_o proceed_v here_o 413.414_o â—â—rys_n hom._n civet_n &_o the_o 〈◊〉_d bol_n tom._n in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 40._o â—â—â—asil_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 48._o â—â—â—mbr_n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d mort_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 10._o â—â—â—rom_n in_o 〈◊〉_d 1â—_n 14_o mcguffin_n in_o â—â—â—bol_n 〈◊〉_d 413.414_o c_o chrysostom_n and_o d_o basill_n likewise_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o greek_n may_v be_v note_v how_o they_o yield_v hades_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o just_a man_n decease_v remain_v in_o joy_n also_o ambrose_n
other_o fancy_n &_o fiction_n of_o the_o heathen_a as_o for_o example_n zeus_n jupiter_n be_v among_o the_o heathen_n their_o great_a god_n &_o he_o only_o be_v their_o high_a of_o who_o beside_o they_o hold_v a_o 1000_o fable_n and_o indeed_o he_o be_v none_o other_o but_o a_o devil_n as_o be_v before_o note_v nevertheless_o the_o apostle_n use_v the_o same_o for_o the_o only_a true_a god_n the_o author_n and_o governor_n of_o heaven_n and_o earth_n pass_v by_o all_o their_o fable_n when_o he_o appli_v the_o poet_n verse_n 2d_o verse_n act._n 2d_o his_o generation_n also_o we_o be_v tartarus_n which_o 3â—_n which_o pag._n 3â—_n you_o object_n though_o rare_o &_o sometime_o perhaps_o a_o philosopher_n will_v note_v thereby_o the_o air_n yet_o indeed_o usual_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n always_o they_o mean_v hell_n by_o it_o with_o a_o thousand_o of_o dream_n thereto_o belong_v yet_o peter_n not_o canonise_a nor_o commend_v their_o dream_n and_o fiction_n of_o hell_n notwithstanding_o signifi_v hell_n indeed_o by_o that_o word_n of_o they_o according_a to_o their_o common_a use_n thereof_o and_o according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o truth_n which_o therein_o they_o hold_v so_o daimonion_n which_o also_o ibâ—â—_n also_o pag._n ibâ—â—_n you_o object_n they_o use_v to_o signify_v by_o it_o both_o good_a and_o bad_a spirit_n follow_v and_o converse_v with_o they_o and_o the_o good_a they_o honour_v as_o god_n but_o indeed_o and_o in_o truth_n see_v these_o same_o be_v all_o devil_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n hold_v not_o the_o heathen_n erroneous_a meaning_n in_o this_o word_n yet_o it_o do_v retain_v that_o which_o they_o understand_v by_o it_o true_o that_o be_v to_o signify_v devil_n and_o bad_a spirit_n again_o theos_n the_o heathen_a use_v for_o to_o express_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n but_o so_o as_o that_o they_o think_v it_o common_a to_o many_o several_a god_n the_o apostle_n use_v the_o word_n also_o for_o the_o true_a god_n yet_o not_o understand_v therein_o a_o nature_n common_a to_o many_o which_o error_n they_o otherwise_o clear_o and_o often_o refute_v and_o thus_o we_o may_v speak_v of_o infinite_a mo_z the_o like_a word_n as_o fear_n the_o power_n and_o strength_n whereof_o they_o also_o feign_v to_o be_v a_o god_n and_o of_o hope_n and_o of_o revenge_n goddess_n etc._n etc._n like_o whereunto_o be_v hades_n even_o that_o which_o present_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n hadeâ—_n the_o diveâ—â—_n applicatâ—â—_n of_o hadeâ—_n with_o the_o heathen_a it_o common_o and_o most_o usual_o signify_v the_o state_n of_o dead_a man_n sometime_o rare_o the_o destruction_n of_o other_o thing_n which_o perish_v out_o of_o this_o visible_a world_n &_o have_v no_o more_o be_v here_o whereof_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v further_o howbeit_o now_o to_o consider_v it_o as_o it_o respect_v man_n only_o thus_o the_o heathen_n chief_o and_o common_o by_o hades_n understand_v the_o state_n i_o say_v and_o condition_n of_o man_n both_o good_a and_o bad_a decease_a and_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n and_o they_o mean_v it_o common_o for_o the_o destruction_n of_o their_o person_n from_o out_o of_o this_o world_n general_o and_o indifferent_o again_o oftentimes_o particular_o touch_v their_o body_n burial_n also_o particular_o many_o thing_n touch_v their_o soul_n state_n be_v part_v from_o the_o body_n some_o of_o which_o they_o believe_v be_v in_o blessedness_n some_o in_o torment_n although_o they_o signify_v neither_o of_o these_o in_o the_o word_n hades_n but_o only_o as_o i_o say_v their_o state_n after_o their_o departure_n hence_o also_o they_o think_v some_o of_o the_o bless_a soul_n to_o be_v in_o the_o a_o chief_a blessedness_n 376._o which_o you_o â—â—iect_v pag._n â—â—4_n 376._o that_o be_v in_o presence_n with_o the_o god_n yet_o they_o be_v in_o hades_n also_o that_o be_v in_o a_o other_o world_n after_o they_o be_v wipe_v out_o from_o hence_o hither_o they_o admit_v only_o philosopher_n â—_o treat_n 1_o pa._n â—_o heroê_n &_o such_o like_a thus_o hither_o it_o be_v that_o b_o plato_n assign_v socrates_n and_o thus_o socrates_n himself_o hope_v to_o go_v to_o hades_n to_o the_o wise_a and_o good_a god_n other_o soul_n of_o good_a man_n they_o give_v blessedness_n unto_o in_o the_o elysian_a field_n under_o the_o earth_n as_o they_o fancy_v or_o where_o else_o i_o know_v not_o and_o these_o be_v also_o in_o hades_n so_o that_o both_o these_o estate_n and_o condition_n of_o bless_a soul_n decease_v which_o be_v their_o heaven_n though_o differ_v very_o much_o in_o place_n they_o yield_v to_o be_v in_o hades_n whence_o i_o think_v some_o of_o the_o father_n and_o after_o they_o some_o papist_n have_v feign_v divers_a place_n of_o rest_n and_o joy_n to_o the_o dead_a heaven_n present_o to_o the_o martyr_n but_o to_o other_o good_a christian_n a_o other_o place_n of_o rest_n &_o joy_n which_o they_o call_v abraham_n bosom_n either_o in_o the_o earth_n or_o where_o they_o also_o know_v not_o howbeit_o into_o the_o glory_n of_o heaven_n and_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n they_o admit_v none_o save_v only_o the_o martyr_n before_o the_o last_o day_n but_o this_o error_n and_o all_o other_o error_n about_o hades_n the_o apostle_n sufficient_o confute_v in_o their_o writing_n so_o that_o we_o be_v not_o now_o to_o respect_v the_o same_o in_o the_o use_n of_o hades_n only_o we_o be_v therefore_o to_o note_v how_o much_o and_o what_o beside_o all_o error_n may_v be_v true_o retain_v and_o mean_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o apply_v this_o word_n hades_n as_o the_o heathen_a do_v to_o both_o sort_n of_o soul_n of_o dead_a man_n they_o may_v true_o understand_v that_o both_o have_v one_o common_a condition_n and_o state_n as_o touch_v their_o be_v in_o another_o world_n as_o they_o be_v dissolve_v depart_v from_o and_o wipe_v out_o of_o this_o visible_a world_n &_o aâ—_n they_o be_v now_o in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a a_o opposite_a estate_n &_o condition_n to_o the_o live_n this_o also_o the_o very_a natural_a etymology_n of_o the_o word_n according_a to_o grammar_n do_v proper_o yield_v in_o that_o it_o signify_v c_o unseen_a sheol_n hades_n the_o â—â—ke_v may_v be_v â—â—â—id_v of_o sheol_n or_o not_o see_v any_o more_o in_o this_o world_n or_o a_o estate_n not_o see_v here_o with_o we_o topos_fw-fr aîdes_fw-la a_o unseen_a place_n as_o plato_n call_v it_o where_o note_n it_o can_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o estate_n of_o angel_n because_o hades_n be_v the_o unseen_a state_n of_o they_o that_o once_o have_v a_o visible_a and_o ordinary_a be_v and_o conversation_n here_o in_o this_o world_n so_o that_o in_o very_a deed_n it_o have_v proper_o but_o a_o privative_a sense_n &_o not_o any_o thing_n positive_a in_o it_o though_o this_o do_v you_o can_v not_o brook_v all_o this_o then_o the_o apostle_n may_v well_o understand_v &_o allow_v in_o the_o word_n hades_n 396._o pag._n 396._o without_o any_o taint_n of_o heathenism_n and_o therefore_o also_o doubtless_o so_o they_o do_v but_o the_o heathen_n further_o make_v hades_n a_o divine_a power_n who_o also_o they_o call_v pluto_n as_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o death_n or_o of_o the_o dead_a because_o as_o before_o be_v show_v they_o dream_v that_o he_o hold_v all_o that_o be_v dead_a under_o his_o power_n both_o bless_a &_o damn_a soul_n and_o because_o no_o man_n that_o die_v whether_o good_a or_o bad_a do_v ever_o live_v here_o again_o and_o because_o all_o whosoever_o without_o exception_n must_v die_v therefore_o they_o call_v he_o hades_n améilichos_fw-fr kai_fw-fr adámastos_fw-la implacable_a and_o unmastered_a and_o nélees_n êtor_n echôn_o have_v a_o mercilesso_fw-la bear_v it_o in_o which_o sense_n in_o latin_a also_o they_o use_v parca_fw-la destiny_n the_o end_n of_o all_o because_o it_o spare_v none_o certain_o this_o deify_n of_o such_o a_o power_n or_o to_o make_v a_o god_n of_o it_o the_o apostle_n abhor_v and_o every_o where_n in_o their_o write_n they_o show_v what_o idolatry_n and_o extreme_a impiety_n it_o be_v but_o yet_o they_o may_v and_o do_v acknowledge_v such_o a_o power_n of_o death_n which_o work_v this_o destruction_n of_o all_o man_n from_o the_o world_n &_o detain_v they_o in_o death_n afterward_o wherefore_o they_o have_v in_o sundry_a place_n prosopopoeas_n thereof_o as_o in_o the_o revelation_n the_o key_n of_o death_n and_o hades_n death_n ride_v on_o a_o pale_a horse_n and_o hades_n follow_v after_o he_o death_n and_o hades_n yield_v up_o their_o dead_a and_o both_o be_v cast_v into_o hell_n likewise_o that_o o_o death_n where_o be_v thy_o sting_n o_o power_n of_o death_n where_o be_v thy_o victory_n but_o of_o these_o more_o anon_o hitherto_o the_o 1._o observation_n be_v manefe_a that_o the_o apostle_n use_v the_o heathen_n word_n yet_o need_v not_o nor_o
do_v nor_o understand_v in_o they_o any_o of_o their_o fancy_n and_o error_n which_o by_o their_o doctrine_n otherwise_o they_o refute_v nevertheless_o they_o may_v and_o do_v understand_v the_o general_a truth_n signify_v in_o they_o whatsoever_o the_o heathen_n use_v by_o they_o to_o signify_v and_o imply_v and_o thus_o be_v our_o word_n in_o controversy_n hades_n clear_v but_o to_o clear_v the_o rest_n also_o of_o those_o which_o 36â—_n which_o pag._n 36â—_n you_o object_n sec_n we_o be_v to_o observe_v that_o the_o apostle_n transfer_v the_o heathen_n civil_a word_n many_o time_n to_o their_o ecclesiastical_a use_n namely_o keep_v yet_o still_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o former_a sense_n as_o in_o these_o apostle_n bishop_n deacon_n gospel_n law_n sin_n repentance_n hope_n conscience_n concupiscence_n etc._n etc._n which_o change_n be_v small_a and_o easy_a since_o the_o word_n have_v a_o just_a proportion_n still_o together_o both_o in_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a use_n only_o if_o any_o difference_n or_o odds_n be_v it_o be_v express_o utter_v in_o some_o part_n of_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n beside_o there_o be_v no_o such_o cause_n nor_o matter_n of_o difference_n to_o be_v find_v in_o hades_n three_o the_o apostle_n do_v use_v some_o word_n kat_n '_o éxochen_n by_o a_o excellency_n &_o yet_o in_o no_o point_n alter_v the_o native_a use_n or_o property_n of_o they_o 403._o â—â—â—a_o all_o the_o 〈◊〉_d before_o â—â—â—med_v or_o â—â—â—t_a oâ—_n they_o 〈◊〉_d â—e_v conâ—â—â—ed_v also_o â—â—â—er_v this_o â—â—â—e_a â—ag_n 403._o a_o thus_o scripture_n be_v use_v common_o for_o the_o word_n of_o god_n only_o diábolos_fw-la for_o the_o devil_n although_o sometime_o other_o writing_n be_v call_v also_o scripture_n and_o other_o accuser_n and_o slanderer_n diaboloi_n but_o neither_o have_v this_o consideration_n any_o place_n in_o hades_n that_o in_o scripture_n it_o shall_v signify_v chief_o hell_n much_o less_o only_a which_o thing_n b_o you_o avouch_v last_o some_o think_v the_o apostle_n alter_v the_o word_n faith_n from_o the_o passive_a sense_n of_o it_o import_a faithfulness_n and_o honesty_n as_o the_o heathen_n common_o use_v it_o to_o the_o active_a sense_n which_o be_v true_a belief_n or_o trust_v use_v in_o the_o scripture_n which_o you_o also_o object_n but_o i_o suppose_v the_o apostle_n take_v this_o active_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n faith_n from_o the_o old_a testament_n mere_o translate_n the_o hebrew_n into_o greek_a for_o i_o see_v not_o what_o difference_n at_o all_o there_o be_v between_o c_o pistis_fw-la 2.4_o â—â—â—om_n 1.17_o â—â—â—bac_fw-la 2.4_o and_o d_o emunah_n whereby_o the_o jew_n signify_v faith_n to_o salvation_n which_o be_v reason_n enough_o for_o this_o use_n thereof_o in_o greek_a by_o the_o apostle_n namely_o if_o it_o be_v a_o hebraisme_n though_o it_o be_v not_o very_o suitable_a to_o the_o heathen_n use_v thereof_o the_o like_a i_o judge_v of_o elder_a law_n sin_n etc._n etc._n but_o hadès_n for_o hell_n have_v no_o like_a reason_n further_o i_o think_v even_o the_o heathen_n have_v use_v this_o word_n faith_n sometime_o active_o as_o the_o gospel_n usual_o have_v it_o likewise_o the_o gospel_n abhor_v not_o altogether_o the_o passive_a use_n of_o it_o for_o faithfulness_n last_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v follow_v no_o other_o reason_n but_o mere_o transfer_v that_o word_n from_o the_o civil_a passive_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a active_a use_n we_o say_v on_o necessity_n they_o may_v do_v it_o for_o have_v some_o spiritual_a doctrine_n to_o deliver_v and_o the_o ordinary_a speech_n want_v some_o fit_a word_n for_o the_o same_o than_o they_o may_v yea_o of_o necessity_n they_o be_v force_v to_o take_v some_o word_n near_o in_o nature_n and_o sense_n to_o their_o purpose_n &_o so_o they_o may_v give_v to_o that_o word_n a_o peculiar_a ecclesiastical_a use_n further_o then_o ancient_o it_o have_v but_o hades_n for_o hell_n have_v no_o help_n by_o 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