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A85256 The lawfulnesse of infants baptisme. Or, An answer to Thomas Lamb his eight arguments, entituled, The unlawfulnesse of infants baptisme. And may serve also to the false minors, and old out-worne arguments in the late book of C. Paul Hobson, till a more particuler and compleat answer come forth to anatomise the fallasies of the said book, entituled, The fallasie of infants baptisme. By Robert Fage Junior. Gent. Fage, Robert. 1645 (1645) Wing F85A; Thomason E1189_10; ESTC R208286 7,386 16

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The Lawfulnesse OF Infants Baptisme OR An Answer to Thomas Lamb his eight Arguments entituled The unlawfulnesse of Infants BAPTISME And may serve also to the false minors and old out-worne Arguments in the late book of C. Paul Hobson till a more particuler and compleat Answer come forth to anatomise the fallasies of the said Book entituled The fallasie of Infants Baptisme For who hath despised the day of small things Zac. 4.10 The secret things unto Jehovah our God but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever that we may doe all the words of this Law Deut. 29.29 By ROBERT FAGE Junior Gent. London Printed by W. WILSON 1645. To the Christian Reader Christian Reader LEt friends debate but not abate one whit of their affection t is one truth we aime at therefore we ought to strive for verity not for mastery when truth is on the one side discovered the other do condescend he is not so much conquered as conquerer in yeelding I le not say much because he hath said little aiming to be short in my Answer as he is in his Arguments desiring that when we debate things in love God who is love would reveale the truth unto us that we may know how to make choice thereof for the good of us and our posterity Thine in the fellowship of the Gospel R. F. An answer to Thomas Lamb his eight Arguments entituled The unlawfulnesse of Childrens BAPTISME Master Lambe IN your Title Page you quote severall Scriptures as first Rom. 9.7 8. Gal. 3.7.29 which places prove indeed that none are spiritually blessed and have right unto the Covenant but the spirituall seed Yet this will not prove that a Church must baptize only those who are internally spirituall persons though none are baptized indeed but such You know Simon Acts 8. had outward Baptisme and so those Antichrists 1 Iohn 2.19 were a while accounted Members of the Church till they left it and were discovered so that ●here is nothing against the baptising of beleevers Infants being in no such danger of hipocrisie at false brethren are in You quote Acts 8.12 where upon profession of faith they were baptized both men and women Proselites must come in by acknowledgement and profession So were these admitted This doth not then exclude the male or female Infants of such Prosolites from Baptisme but sheweth the largements of the Gospel above the Law That sealed a male but this male and female The other places Acts 8. 37. 10.47 48. 11.17 all tend to one end in their true scope that is to bring the Gentile sometimes afarre off now neare and that by profession of faith even as the stranger under the Law might come in and be one with the people of the Jewes by acknowledgement and voluntary subjection to the Law Exod. 12.48 and this the Parent a stranger was to performe and then his Infant was also admitted upon the parents voluntary manifestation of his desire And the Churches of Christ are now by faith come into the Jews state and grafted in as they were broken off as they were broken off Ro. 11. T. L. I Come now to your Arguments your first is That which makes the traditions of men of equall authority with the Law of God ought in no wise to be Mat. 15.6 Mar. 7.7 But the Baptisme of Infants though of beleeving Parents doth so Therefore that ought not to be Ans Hear we deny the minor which you goe about to prove thus T. L. That which is an action of religion performed and not one jot or tittle of the word requiring the same that makes the Traditions of men of equall authority with the Law of God But the baptisme of Infants though of Beleevers is an action of Religion supposed to bee performed and not one jot or tittle of the word requiring the same Therefore c. Ans Hear we deny your minor again for we have the Covenant made with Abraham and to all beleevers Gen. 17. That God will be a God to them and to their seed after them explained in the second Commandement That God will shew mercy unto thousands of them that love him and keep his Commandements Therefore Isa 44.3 I will povre saith God my Spirit upon thy seed and my blessing upon thine off-spring and they shall spring up as among the grasse as Willowes by the water courses And Isa 59.21 this Covenant is renewed My Spirit which is upon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy seed nor out of the mouth of thy seeds seed saith the Lord from henceforth for ever Which Covenant was revived to Abraham and confirmed by Christ Gen. 17.7 Rom. 15.8 the Covenant being still one Heb. 13.20 though the typicall ordinances thereof be changed And therefore were the Israelites nation called a holy seed Ezr. 9.2 a godly seed Mal. 2.15 and were Circumcised eate of the Manna drank of the Rock passed through and were Baptized in the Cloud and Sea and those Ordinances are declared to be the same with our spirituall Ordinances of Baptisme and the Supper 1 Cor. 10.1 2. The Gospell also declareth that yong children Infants were brought to Christ and he gave them imposition of hands Luke 18.15 Mat. 19.15 And little children proposed as an example and parterne of imitation to the very chife of the Church-members Mat. 18.2 34. 1 Pet. 2.2 Mat. 19.14 Mat. 10.14 Christ would not have little children kept from him for of such is the kingdome of heaven And Peter saith Acts 2.39 The promise is to you and to your children whom Paul calleth holy Children 1 Corinh 7.14 in relation to Ezra And the Gospel prophesie of Zachary is that the streets of the City shall be full of boyes and girles playing in the streets thereof And Act. 2.17 God is said to poure out his spirit upon all flesh The beleeving Gentile by faith being engraffed and his seed with him into the same stocke and state out of which the Iew by unbeleefe is broken off See Rom. 11.19 20 21. As may also appeare by comparing Exod. 19.5 6. Deut. 10.14 15. with 2 Pet. 2.9 Rev. 1.6 where the Saints Titles and expressions are applyed to the beleeving Gentile as they were to the beleeving Jew Can any man then forbid water to these children of promise who have received the Holy Ghost as welll as wee Acts 10.47 John Baptist understood their right when there went out unto him all the land of Judea and they of Jerusalem and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan confessing their sinnes Mark 1.5 Now that it was ordinary for the Parents to carry their children with them appeares by those two examples of the five thousand men besides women and children fed with seven loaves Mat. 15.38 And the Churches bearing Paul company with wives and Children Acts 21.5 If you say children could