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quid_fw-la tres_fw-la conferimus_fw-la nos_fw-la ad_fw-la inventendum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la speciale_a well_fw-mi generale_fw-mi nomen_fw-la quo_fw-la complectamur_fw-la haec_fw-la tria_fw-la neque_fw-la occurrit_fw-la animo_fw-la quia_fw-la excedit_fw-la supereminentia_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la usitati_fw-la eloquii_fw-la facultatem_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr trin._n l._n 7._o c._n 3._o ad_fw-la se_fw-la quip_n pater_n dicitur_fw-la persona_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la filium_fw-la aut_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr trin._n l._n 7._o c._n 6._o cur_n ergo_fw-la non_fw-la haec_fw-la tria_fw-la simul_fw-la unam_fw-la personam_fw-la dicimus_fw-la sicut_fw-la unam_fw-la essentiam_fw-la &_o deum_fw-la sed_fw-la tres_fw-la dicimus_fw-la personas_fw-la cum_fw-la tres_fw-la deos_fw-la aut_fw-la tres_fw-la essentias_fw-la non_fw-la dicamus_fw-la nisi_fw-la quia_fw-la volumus_fw-la vel_fw-la unum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la vocabulum_fw-la servire_fw-la huic_fw-la significationi_fw-la quâ_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la trinitas_fw-la ne_fw-la emnino_fw-la taceremus_fw-la interrogati_fw-la quid_fw-la tres_fw-la cum_fw-la tres_fw-la esse_fw-la fateremur_fw-la ibid._n
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cotemporary_a with_o st._n cyprian_n ibid._n though_o a_o schismatic_a be_v charge_v with_o no_o heresy_n in_o this_o article_n and_o he_o oppose_v the_o sabellian_n with_o the_o same_o argument_n and_o almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n that_o tertullian_n and_o do_v before_o he_o and_o tell_v we_o particular_o that_o this_o divine_a word_n which_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n beget_v and_o bear_v of_o he_o be_v not_o a_o mere_a sound_n or_o voice_n like_o the_o word_n of_o a_o man_n but_o that_o substantial_a virtue_n and_o power_n which_o proceed_v from_o god_n a_o divine_a substance_n who_o name_n be_v the_o word_n such_o a_o word_n as_o be_v both_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o god_n god_n proceed_v from_o god_n and_o make_v a_o second_o person_n in_o the_o godhead_n epiphanius_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o heresy_n of_o noetus_n and_o sabellius_n who_o make_v father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n but_o one_o substantial_a person_n affirm_v over_o and_o over_o that_o the_o father_n 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