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A00793	The answere vnto the nine points of controuersy, proposed by our late soueraygne (of famous memory) vnto M. Fisher of the Society of Iesus And the reioynder vnto the reply of D. Francis VVhite minister. With the picture of the sayd minister, or censure of his writings prefixed.	Fisher, John, 1569-1641.; Floyd, John, 1572-1649.	1626 (1626)	STC 10911; ESTC S102112	538,202	656

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final_o the_o minister_n who_o here_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o signify_v be_v depaint_v elsewhere_o pag._n 213._o lin_v 26._o say_v the_o contrary_a to_o wit_n that_o s._n paul_n do_v testify_v galat_n 3.1_o that_o by_o the_o gospel_n christ_n jesus_n be_v depaint_v before_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o soul_n now_o how_o can_v this_o be_v true_a except_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d proper_o signify_v be_v depaint_v and_o be_v thence_o transfer_v by_o metaphor_n unto_o preach_v senseless_a and_o of_o this_o material_a picture_v of_o christ_n crucify_v athanasius_n expound_v this_o place_n who_o turrianus_n cit_v de_n dogmat._n carat_n l._n 4._o wherefore_o i_o may_v just_o say_v that_o we_o have_v more_o clear_a &_o express_v scripture_n for_o the_o use_n of_o image_n then_o have_v protestant_n for_o their_o translation_n and_o therefore_o the_o danger_n of_o ignorant_a people_n err_v by_o image_n be_v without_o reason_n so_o much_o insist_v upon_o by_o 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myself_o but_o only_o mention_v some_o of_o they_o the_o first_o be_v a_o easy_a and_o compendious_a way_n of_o instruction_n in_o which_o respect_n they_o be_v term_v by_o s._n gregory_n 109._o gregory_n lib._n 7._o ep._n 109._o the_o book_n of_o the_o unlearned_a and_o as_o another_o gregory_n theodorum_fw-la gregory_n nissen_n ●rat_fw-la in_o theodorum_fw-la say_v the_o silent_a picture_n speak_v on_o the_o wall_n and_o profit_v very_o much_o the_o second_o be_v to_o increase_v in_o man_n that_o keep_v &_o honour_v they_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o of_o his_o saint_n which_o effect_n s_n mediator_n s_n orat._n quod_fw-la veteris_fw-la &_o novi_fw-la testamenti_fw-la unius_fw-la sit_fw-la mediator_n chrysostome_n experience_v as_o he_o testify_v say_v i_o love_v a_o picture_n of_o melt_a wax_n full_a of_o piety_n and_o s._n 53._o s._n lib._n 7._o epist_n 53._o gregory_n the_o great_a say_v they_o inflame_v man_n that_o behold_v they_o in_o the_o love_n

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saviour_n under_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o that_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o be_v my_o body_n be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n this_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o the_o answerer_n omit_v to_o prove_v large_o this_o catholic_a doctrine_n now_o the_o minister_n find_v himself_o unable_a upon_o this_o supposition_n of_o his_o majesty_n to_o answer_v the_o jesuit_n argument_n for_o transubstantiation_n yea_o pag._n 397._o affirm_v that_o unless_o transubstantiation_n be_v grant_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n can_v be_v true_a in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n hence_o he_o deny_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n substantial_o within_o the_o sacred_a sign_n &_o labour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v figurative_o and_o not_o proper_o to_o be_v understand_v he_o grant_v a_o real_a and_o true_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o word_n but_o so_o obscure_o as_o no_o man_n be_v able_a to_o understand_v his_o meaning_n wherefore_o to_o clear_v this_o matter_n wherein_o minister_n desire_v to_o be_v dark_a that_o man_n may_v not_o see_v the_o gross_a infidelity_n of_o their_o hart_n against_o god_n express_a word_n i_o shall_v show_v 3._o thing_n first_o what_o zwinglians_n and_o caluinist_n hold_v in_o this_o point_n second_o how_o the_o doctrine_n both_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la &_o caluin_n be_v against_o god_n word_n three_o that_o their_o reason_n not_o to_o admit_v of_o the_o literal_a truth_n of_o christ_n word_n be_v vain_a and_o idle_a the_o zuinglian_n and_o caluinian_a religion_n about_o the_o sacrament_n §._o 1._o a_o threefold_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v confess_v on_o all_o side_n the_o first_o figurative_a or_o in_o a_o sacramental_a sign_n bread_n signify_v his_o body_n and_o wine_n his_o blood_n the_o second_o imaginative_a or_o by_o the_o pious_a apprehension_n of_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n who_o for_o more_o devotion_n sake_n do_v or_o may_v imagine_v as_o if_o he_o see_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n true_o real_o and_o blee_o present_a under_o the_o sign_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o three_o effectual_a or_o according_a to_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n of_o grace_n purchase_v by_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o give_v by_o virtue_n of_o this_o sacrament_n unto_o the_o soul_n to_o nourish_v the_o ghostly_a life_n thereof_o as_o all_o proceed_v thus_o far_o so_o zwinglians_n will_v proceed_v no_o further_o they_o grant_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n figurative_o in_o a_o sign_n imaginative_o by_o faith_n effectual_o by_o grace_n but_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v present_a according_a to_o their_o corporal_a substance_n or_o further_a then_o in_o the_o outward_a sign_n to_o the_o mouth_n and_o in_o the_o inward_a effect_n to_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o they_o grant_v the_o sacramental_a sign_n to_o be_v bare_a and_o empty_a in_o respect_n of_o contain_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n though_o full_a and_o effectual_a in_o respect_n of_o affoard_v soule-nourishing_a grace_n caluinist_n seem_v in_o their_o word_n to_o maintain_v a_o more_o real_a presence_n for_o though_o they_o maintain_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o respect_n of_o place_n to_o be_v in_o heaven_n only_o and_o not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o same_o body_n without_o be_v present_a upon_o earth_n be_v give_v we_o on_o earth_n not_o only_o by_o the_o apprehension_n of_o faith_n non_fw-la solùm_fw-la dum_fw-la fide_fw-la amplectimur_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la crucifixum_fw-la &_o à_fw-la mortuis_fw-la excitatum_fw-la not_o only_o in_o the_o inward_a spiritual_a effect_n of_o soule-nourishing_a grace_n purchase_v by_o the_o death_n of_o his_o body_n non_fw-la solùm_fw-la dum_fw-la bonis_fw-la eius_fw-la omnibus_fw-la quae_fw-la nobis_fw-la acquisivit_fw-la corpore_fw-la svo_fw-la efficaciter_fw-la communicamus_fw-la but_o realiter_fw-la real_o &_o true_o dum_fw-la habitat_fw-la in_o nobis_fw-la dum_fw-la unum_fw-la fit_a nobiscum_fw-la dum_fw-la eius_fw-la membra_fw-la sumus_fw-la de_fw-la carne_fw-la eius_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o unam_fw-la ut_fw-la ita_fw-la loquar_fw-la cum_fw-la ipso_fw-la substantiam_fw-la coalescimus_fw-la caluin_n in_o cap._n 11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n hence_o we_o may_v discover_v the_o caluinian_a juggle_n and_o play_v fast_o &_o loose_v about_o this_o mystery_n when_o they_o so_o often_o say_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o present_a but_o spiritual_o for_o the_o word_n spiritual_a may_v be_v use_v in_o this_o mystery_n for_o two_o end_n first_o to_o express_v the_o substance_n of_o the_o thing_n present_a &_o to_o signify_v the_o real_a presence_n not_o of_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n but_o only_o of_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n thereof_o to_o wit_n of_o soule-feeding_a grace_n this_o sense_n be_v false_a as_o shall_v be_v prove_v and_o the_o very_a same_o which_o caluin_n do_v condemn_v in_o the_o zwinglian_o as_o execrable_a blasphemy_n opusculo_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la domini_fw-la second_o to_o express_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o presence_n and_o to_o signify_v that_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v present_v true_o yet_o in_o a_o spiritual_a that_o be_v secret_a invisible_a &_o indivisible_a manner_n this_o doctrine_n be_v true_a and_o herein_o not_o differ_v from_o the_o catholic_a in_o like_a manner_n their_o phrase_n of_o presence_n by_o faith_n be_v equivocal_a and_o may_v have_v a_o threefold_a sense_n first_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v presence_n by_o pious_a imagination_n of_o faith_n the_o receiver_n conceave_a the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o if_o he_o see_v the_o same_o corporal_o and_o blee_o present_a if_o by_o presence_n by_o faith_n caluinist_n mean_v no_o more_o than_o this_o than_o they_o do_v not_o differ_v from_o the_o zwinglian_o nor_o do_v they_o put_v any_o more_o real_a presence_n then_o imaginative_a that_o be_v presence_n of_o thing_n according_a to_o pious_a representation_n and_o apprehension_n though_o not_o real_o &_o in_o truth_n second_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v that_o faith_n do_v dispose_v and_o prepare_v the_o soul_n and_o that_o then_o unto_o the_o soul_n prepare_v by_o faith_n our_o saviour_n be_v unite_v real_o and_o true_o not_o according_a to_o the_o corporal_a substance_n of_o his_o body_n but_o only_o according_a to_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n of_o his_o grace_n this_o sense_n be_v also_o zuinglian_n and_o condemn_v by_o caluin_n as_o have_v be_v show_v three_o presence_n by_o faith_n may_v signify_v presence_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o faith_n or_o a_o presence_n which_o only_a faith_n can_v find_v out_o feel_v &_o behold_v this_o sense_n be_v true_a and_o catholic_a and_o do_v suppose_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v present_a absolute_o and_o independent_o of_o faith_n for_o be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n afore_o hand_n present_a faith_n shall_v not_o be_v true_a that_o judge_v his_o body_n to_o be_v present_a whether_o our_o minister_n be_v zuinglian_n or_o caluinist_n in_o this_o point_n god_n only_o know_v he_o speak_v obscure_o of_o purpose_n he_o never_o say_v as_o caluin_n do_v li._n 4._o institut_fw-la c._n 17._o n._n 7._o that_o by_o substantial_a communication_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v under_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o supper_n deliver_v unto_o the_o faith_n full_a yet_o he_o say_v and_o often_o repeat_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o real_o &_o effectual_o communicate_v these_o word_n savour_v more_o of_o the_o caluinian_a then_o of_o the_o zuinglian_n phrase_n notwithstanding_o his_o add_v effectual_o after_o true_o and_o real_o may_v draw_v the_o speech_n to_o be_v zuinglian_n in_o sense_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v true_o real_o effectual_o that_o be_v real_o accord_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n not_o real_o according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o the_o corporal_a substance_n the_o zuinglian_n and_o caluinian_a presence_n confute_v §._o 2._o the_o zuinglian_n doctrine_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v present_v only_o in_o a_o effectual_a sign_n of_o grace_n not_o in_o substance_n be_v against_o the_o plain_a &_o express_v word_n of_o our_o saviour_n for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v this_o be_v the_o sign_n or_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n nor_o this_o be_v the_o benefit_n or_o effect_v of_o my_o body_n but_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v his_o body_n in_o substance_n and_o essence_n if_o the_o substantial_a verb_n est_fw-la do_v signify_v substance_n and_o essence_n hence_o luther_n epist._n ad_fw-la argent_fw-fr say_v that_o the_o word_n be_v nimis_fw-la clara_fw-la toto_fw-la clear_a and_o much_o more_o clear_a than_o he_o can_v have_v wish_v caluin_n also_o in_o cap._n

11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n i_o hear_v say_v he_o what_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n import_n for_o christ_n do_v give_v we_o not_o only_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n but_o also_o the_o very_a body_n wherein_o he_o die_v and_o arise_v again_o from_o death_n yea_o libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la inter_fw-la eius_fw-la opuscula_fw-la pag._n 133._o he_o say_v that_o negare_fw-la veram_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la to_o deny_v the_o true_a substance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v give_v in_o the_o supper_n be_v execrabilis_fw-la blasphemia_fw-la auditu_fw-la indigna_fw-es a_o execrable_a blasphemy_n against_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o stop_v our_o ear_n the_o caluinian_a doctrine_n that_o christ_n body_n be_v only_o in_o heaven_n be_v spiritual_o present_a not_o only_o by_o faith_n not_o only_o according_a to_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o grace_n but_o also_o in_o his_o bodily_a substance_n yet_o only_o unto_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n not_o unto_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n be_v both_o against_o god_n word_n and_o implicatory_a in_o reason_n first_o it_o be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o zuinglian_n against_o the_o plain_a &_o express_v word_n of_o our_o saviour_n for_o our_o saviour_n by_o say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n matth._n 26._o do_v aver_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o take_n and_o eat_v unto_o which_o by_o these_o word_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v but_o by_o this_o speech_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v unto_o sacramental_a and_o corporal_a take_n and_o eat_v this_o appear_v by_o the_o immediate_a practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n take_v the_o sacrament_n with_o their_o corporal_a mouth_n this_o also_o our_o adversaries_n can_v deny_v see_v they_o urge_v by_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n corporal_a receive_v in_o both_o kind_n therefore_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n aver_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o his_o body_n in_o substance_n in_o respect_n of_o corporal_a take_n and_o eat_v with_o the_o mouth_n of_o flesh_n which_o doctrine_n caluinist_n stiff_o deny_v only_o hold_v the_o substantial_a communication_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o respect_n of_o spiritual_a receive_n by_o the_o faculty_n of_o the_o soul_n second_o their_o real_a presence_n be_v a_o fiction_n to_o no_o purpose_n for_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n to_o put_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o in_o respect_n of_o verify_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n this_o be_v my_o body_n in_o a_o true_a and_o real_a sense_n so_o make_v the_o thing_n christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o which_o be_v demonstrate_v by_o the_o pronowne_a this_o to_o be_v true_o &_o real_o his_o body_n but_o caluinist_n put_v not_o a_o presence_n which_o make_v the_o thing_n christ_n have_v in_o hand_n and_o demonstrate_v by_o the_o pronowne_a this_o to_o be_v true_o and_o real_o his_o body_n but_o only_o by_o figure_n this_o i_o prove_v that_o which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o figure_n and_o show_v and_o not_o in_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o &_o real_o christ_n his_o body_n even_o as_o what_o be_v a_o man_n in_o show_n and_o figure_n not_o in_o essence_n and_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o and_o real_o a_o man_n but_o caluinist_n say_v that_o this_o or_o the_o thing_n which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n be_v christ_n body_n in_o show_n &_o figure_n and_o not_o in_o substance_n ergo_fw-la they_o put_v not_o a_o real_a presence_n which_o make_v that_o which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n &_o do_v demonstrate_v by_o the_o particle_n this_o to_o be_v true_o his_o body_n it_o be_v therefore_o a_o fiction_n devise_v to_o satisfy_v the_o caluinian_a fancy_n not_o the_o christian_a faith_n or_o the_o rigurous_a truth_n of_o god_n word_n three_o by_o this_o doctrine_n they_o bound_v themselves_o and_o other_o to_o believe_v a_o high_a and_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n without_o any_o necessity_n or_o compulsion_n from_o god_n word_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o unintelligible_a then_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v true_a and_o real_a union_n according_a to_o substance_n betwixt_o two_o distinct_a individual_a substance_n that_o be_v distant_a the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o as_o far_o as_o heaven_n be_v from_o earth_n hence_o caluin_n say_v libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la that_o this_o be_v sublime_a &_o arduum_fw-la quod_fw-la neque_fw-la quidem_fw-la cogitation_n complecti_fw-la possimus_fw-la &_o in_o cap._n 11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n arcanum_fw-la &_o mirificum_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la opus_fw-la quod_fw-la intelligentiae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la modulo_fw-la metiri_fw-la nefas_fw-la sit_fw-la but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o enforce_v this_o caluinian_a mystery_n nor_o be_v there_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o affirm_v it_o this_o be_v prove_v because_o the_o mystery_n of_o their_o real_a presence_n either_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n or_o be_v ground_v on_o these_o word_n of_o the_o institution_n take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o caluinist_n on_o these_o word_n can_v ground_v the_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n of_o their_o real_a presence_n for_o they_o understand_v these_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o a_o figurative_a sense_n and_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o true_a proper_o and_o literal_o now_o a_o mystery_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o the_o figurative_a sense_n of_o a_o place_n of_o scripture_n yea_o upon_o mere_a figurative_a construction_n of_o scripture_n to_o obtrude_v unto_o other_o a_o article_n of_o necessary_a belief_n be_v impudence_n as_o say_v s._n augustine_n epist._n 68_o non_fw-la nisi_fw-la impudentiss_fw-la mè_fw-la nititur_fw-la quis_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o allegoria_fw-la positum_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la interpretari_fw-la nisi_fw-la habeat_fw-la &_o manifesta_fw-la testimonia_fw-la quorum_fw-la lumine_fw-la illustrentur_fw-la obscura_fw-la therefore_o the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n be_v a_o mystery_n incomprehensible_a ground_v on_o mere_a figurative_a construction_n of_o god_n word_n not_o back_v by_o any_o literal_a text_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v believe_v without_o necessity_n or_o any_o divine_a and_o supernatural_a warrant_n hence_o i_o infer_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o the_o believer_n of_o the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n be_v unwise_a for_o what_o great_a folly_n then_o for_o man_n to_o deny_v their_o wit_n and_o break_v their_o head_n to_o believe_v a_o hard_a and_o difficile_a matter_n in_o believe_v whereof_o there_o be_v no_o merit_n of_o faith_n in_o believe_v the_o caluinian_a real_a presence_n there_o be_v no_o merit_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o captivate_v our_o understanding_n unto_o mysterye_n clear_o deliver_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n not_o unto_o man_n figurative_a exposition_n thereof_o yea_o no_o figurative_a exposition_n above_o reason_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v except_o it_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o literal_a text_n or_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o full_a tradition_n as_o god_n word_n unwritten_a second_o i_o infer_v that_o caluinist_n bear_v more_o reverence_n unto_o john_n caluin_n then_o unto_o jesus_n christ_n for_o caluins_n mystery_n be_v believe_v by_o caluinist_n be_v confess_o a_o doctrine_n most_o hard_o difficile_a incomprehensible_a and_o yet_o not_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o god_n word_n but_o caluin_n figurative_a comment_n thereupon_a on_o the_o other_o side_n transubstantiation_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o they_o to_o be_v the_o literal_a and_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n jesus_n so_o that_o without_o transubstantiation_n his_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n can_v be_v literal_o true_a as_o our_o minister_n do_v confess_v pag._n 397._o yet_o because_o it_o be_v hard_a difficile_a incomprehensible_a caluinist_n can_v be_v bring_v to_o believe_v it_o what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o be_v more_o ready_a to_o believe_v caluin_n then_o christ_n special_o see_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n literal_a sense_n be_v not_o so_o hard_a and_o un-intelligible_a as_o caluins_n figurative_a construction_n for_o one_o may_n more_o easy_o conceive_v a_o body_n to_o be_v in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o which_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o christ_n word_n do_v enforce_v than_o a_o body_n to_o be_v true_o and_o substantial_o give_v where_o true_o and_o substantial_o it_o be_v not_o which_o be_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n by_o caluin_n figurative_a construction_n obtrude_v the_o argument_n against_o the_o literal_a sense_n of_o christ_n word_n vain_a and_o idle_a §._o 3._o the_o minister_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o institution_n be_v to_o be_v figurative_o understand_v bring_v seven_o argument_n pag._n 391._o &_o one_o pag._n 401._o and_o three_o other_o pag._n 418._o but_o the_o first_o and_o three_o of_o these_o three_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o second_o

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the_o substance_n thereof_o be_v

food_n of_o the_o soul_n hence_o the_o eucharist_n as_o a_o sacrifice_n 〈…〉_o entire_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d oblation_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n without_o oblation_n in_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n because_o the_o oblation_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n without_o wine_n do_v not_o express_o &_o distinct_o represent_v christ_n sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n by_o the_o effusion_n of_o his_o blood_n but_o the_o eucharist_n as_o a_o sacrament_n be_v entire_o in_o one_o only_a kind_n to_o wit_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n because_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n only_o do_v represent_v contain_v and_o exhibit_v the_o true_a body_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v a_o full_a ●nd_n all-sufficient_a food_n to_o nourish_v the_o soul_n unto_o eternal_a life_n as_o say_v our_o saviour_n he_o that_o eat_v this_o bread_n live_v for_o ever_o joan._n 6.59_o by_o this_o the_o minister_n cavil_v pag._n 460._o &_o 461._o and_o throughout_o this_o whole_a controversy_n be_v answer_v for_o he_o only_o 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body_n of_o christ_n they_o must_v needs_o concomitate_fw-la that_o be_v follow_v the_o body_n in_o what_o place_n soever_o the_o same_o be_v present_a be_v the_o minister_n pag._n 460._o say_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n can_v proper_o he_o say_v to_o be_v in_o his_o body_n by_o concomitancy_n for_o then_o it_o be_v accidental_o therein_o but_o as_o a_o part_n in_o the_o whole_a answer_n we_o do_v not_o say_v blood_n be_v accidental_o in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n or_o by_o concomitancy_n but_o that_o it_o be_v by_o concomitancy_n in_o the_o same_o place_n with_o the_o body_n as_o the_o soul_n be_v not_o by_o concomitancy_n in_o the_o body_n of_o a_o live_a man_n but_o as_o a_o part_n in_o the_o whole_a yet_o as_o philosophy_n teach_v movetur_fw-la per_fw-la accidens_fw-la cum_fw-la corpore_fw-la it_o be_v move_v and_o remove_v accidental_o and_o by_o concomitancy_n with_o the_o body_n you_o must_v then_o distinguish_v to_o be_v in_o the_o body_n from_o to_o be_v in_o the_o same_o 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deity_n be_v present_a by_o concomitancy_n so_o that_o though_o otherwise_o it_o be_v not_o present_a yet_o shall_v it_o be_v here_o present_a by_o concomitancy_n because_o inseparable_o join_v with_o a_o thing_n that_o be_v present_a neither_o can_v any_o that_o acknowledge_v the_o real_a presence_n deny_v this_o concomitancy_n without_o fall_v into_o many_o absurdity_n as_o i_o prove_v by_o three_o argument_n first_o he_o that_o acknowledge_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n sacred_a body_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o deny_v concomitancy_n do_v in_o his_o belief_n separate_v the_o blood_n &_o soul_n of_o christ_n from_o his_o body_n but_o to_o separate_v either_o christ_n divinity_n from_o his_o humanity_n or_o soul_n from_o his_o body_n or_o his_o blood_n from_o his_o flesh_n be_v unlawful_a for_o such_o a_o believer_n do_v dissolve_v and_o destroy_v christ_n jesus_n and_o so_o be_v one_o of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o that_o saint_n john_n condemn_v omnis_fw-la spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la soluit_fw-la jesum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la antichristus_fw-la 4.3_o antichristus_fw-la 1._o joan._n 4.3_o and_o this_o argument_n have_v great_a force_n in_o their_o opinion_n who_o shall_v think_v that_o christ_n leave_v heaven_n for_o the_o time_n &_o come_v down_o real_o according_a to_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n for_o how_o can_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n come_v down_o from_o heaven_n without_o blood_n and_o soul_n unless_o he_o come_v down_o dead_a and_o so_o christ_n shall_v be_v not_o only_o mystical_o &_o figurative_o but_o true_o &_o real_o massacre_v in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o bloody_a sacrifice_n and_o not_o incruent_a as_o the_o father_n term_n it_o second_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n or_o rather_o christ_n be_v glorious_a in_o heaven_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o priest_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o a_o body_n devoid_a of_o blood_n without_o soul_n and_o consequent_o dead_a and_o senseless_a be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v now_o glorious_a in_o heaven_n which_o have_v blood_n in_o the_o vein_n and_o be_v inform_v and_o glorify_v by_o a_o most_o excellent_a soul_n therefore_o christ_n glorious_a in_o heaven_n can_v say_v true_o that_o a_o body_n void_a of_o blood_n sense_n and_o soul_n be_v his_o body_n but_o soul_n life_n and_o blood_n must_v needs_o follow_v and_o concomitate_fw-la his_o body_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v three_o if_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o soul_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o by_o concomitancy_n there_o the_o communicant_n shall_v receive_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o true_o christ_n as_o our_o adversary_n grant_v caluin_n special_o say_v 35._o say_v caluin_n l._n 4._o instit._fw-la c._n 7._o n._n 35._o quis_fw-la sanus_fw-la &_o sobrius_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la sibi_fw-la persuade_v at_o and_o again_o 74._o again_o ibidem_fw-la n._n 74._o ne_fw-la fando_fw-la quidem_fw-la auditum_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la aut_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o hominem_fw-la appellari_fw-la but_o est_fw-la but_o ambros._n l._n de_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la i●it_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la sacramento_n christus_fw-la est_fw-la father_n affirm_v most_o constant_o that_o not_o only_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o christ_n sumimus_fw-la christ_n hilarius_n l._n 8._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la nos_fw-la verè_fw-la verbum_fw-la carnem_fw-la cibo_fw-la dominico_n sumimus_fw-la himself_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o we_o take_v in_o the_o dominical_a refection_n the_o word_n make_v flesh_n that_o suscipimus_fw-la that_o cyrill_n alexand._n l._n 4._o in_o joan._n c._n 15._o per_fw-la hanc_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la mysterij_fw-la ipsum_fw-la filium_fw-la dei_fw-la suscipimus_fw-la by_o the_o consecration_n of_o the_o mysterye_n we_o receive_v the_o very_a son_n of_o god_n that_o mystag_n that_o cyrill_n hieros_n catech._n 5._o mystag_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n we_o lodge_v within_o we_o the_o soveraygne_a king_n &_o that_o cor._n that_o chrysost._n homil_n 83._o in_o cap._n 26._o matth._n &_o hom_n 24._o in_o 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n we_o see_v christ_n feel_v christ_n eat_v christ_n non_fw-la regium_fw-la pverum_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la unigenitum_fw-la dei_fw-la filium_fw-la a_o hundred_o other_o place_n may_v be_v bring_v where_o the_o father_n call_v the_o consecrate_a bread_n christ_n &_o consequent_o they_o do_v not_o think_v there_o be_v the_o mere_a body_n without_o blood_n and_o soul_n see_v as_o caluin_n do_v confess_v it_o be_v a_o absurd_a manner_n of_o speech_n to_o term_n christ_n the_o mere_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o such_o a_o form_n of_o speech_n be_v never_o hear_v of_o hitherto_o in_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la concomitancy_n that_o be_v christ_n real_a &_o entire_a body_n soul_n flesh_n blood_n to_o be_v under_o the_o form_n

a_o act_n of_o obedience_n unto_o christ_n precept_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o but_o obedience_n be_v better_a than_o sacrifice_n 1._o sam._n 15._o 22._o his_o argument_n suppose_v without_o proof_n what_o the_o jesuit_n have_v show_v to_o be_v most_o false_a and_o so_o may_v be_v with_o more_o truth_n turn_v to_o the_o contrary_a for_o to_o receive_v in_o one_o kind_n be_v a_o act_n of_o obedience_n unto_o the_o church_n whereof_o christ_n say_v he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n but_o obedience_n be_v better_a than_o sacrifice_n therefore_o more_o spiritual_a profit_n and_o merit_n be_v get_v by_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o christ_n his_o precept_n §._o 4._o although_o communion_n under_o both_o kind_n pertain_v not_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o if_o christ_n do_v special_o command_v the_o same_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o that_o 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speak_v that_o christ_n give_v no_o commandment_n to_o his_o church_n concern_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n beside_o such_o as_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o institution_n and_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o kind_a communion_n under_o both_o kind_n can_v be_v as_o have_v be_v prove_v which_o will_v further_o appear_v by_o ponder_v the_o place_n allege_v to_o prove_v a_o precept_n the_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o do_v no_o way_n infer_v a_o precept_n of_o both_o kind_n first_o because_o he_o say_v do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o absolute_o only_a of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n of_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n not_o absolute_o but_o conditional_o do_v this_o as_o often_o as_o you_o drink_v in_o memory_n of_o i_o that_o the_o adversary_n of_o the_o church_n may_v not_o have_v any_o the_o least_o plausible_a show_n to_o complain_v of_o she_o neglect_v god_n precept_n 5._o precept_n the_o 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