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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
word_n	church_n	true_a	visible_a	12,702	5	9.3716	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80608	The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England.	Cotton, John, 1584-1652.	1647 (1647)	Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836	257,083	342

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philistines_n and_o yet_o not_o disannul_v their_o church-estate_n and_o by_o like_a proportion_n so_o may_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n take_v up_o some_o order_n as_o the_o cart_v of_o some_o part_n of_o their_o worship_n upon_o a_o book_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o antichrist_n and_o yet_o not_o forthwith_o evacuate_v their_o church-estate_n but_o this_o let_v i_o further_o add_v that_o a_o godly_a person_n may_v have_v some_o kind_n of_o communion_n so_o far_o as_o hear_v the_o word_n from_o a_o minister_n well_o gift_v by_o christ_n to_o who_o call_v some_o corruption_n may_v cleave_v both_o in_o his_o church-estate_n and_o in_o his_o ordination_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o no_o antichristian_a pollution_n at_o all_o may_v cleave_v or_o redound_v to_o the_o hearer_n by_o his_o hear_n of_o he_o and_o this_o be_v the_o principal_a exception_n which_o the_o examiner_n take_v against_o some_o of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n &_o against_o all_o the_o church_n for_o their_o 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age_n beside_o as_o this_o answerer_n gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o make_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n mat._n 16.18_o 19_o of_o none_o effect_v so_o it_o straitn_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n in_o the_o very_a text_n of_o scripture_n allege_v by_o himself_o for_o in_o that_o text_n rev._n 11._o where_o the_o outward_a court_n be_v give_v to_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a court_n give_v to_o antichrist_n &_o his_o clergy_n v._n 2._o there_o also_o a_o rod_n or_o reed_n be_v give_v by_o the_o angel_n unto_o john_n to_o measure_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o the_o altar_n and_o they_o that_o worship_n therein_o v._o 1._o which_o evident_o hold_v forth_o that_o even_o then_o there_o be_v somewhere_o extant_a the_o temple_n that_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o have_v communion_n with_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n there_o call_v the_o altar_n and_o the_o temple_n be_v furnish_v with_o true_a worshipper_n and_o all_o measure_v 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shape_n of_o a_o answer_n but_o as_o little_a substance_n the_o great_a question_n here_o say_v he_o will_v be_v whether_o the_o corinthian_n in_o their_o first_o constitution_n be_v separate_v or_o no_o from_o such_o idol_n temple_n and_o this_o mr._n cotton_n neither_o do_v nor_o can_v deny_v a_o church_n estate_n be_v a_o state_n of_o marriage_n unto_o christ_n jesus_n and_o so_o paul_n profess_o say_v he_o have_v espouse_v they_o as_o a_o chaste_a virgin_n unto_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 11._o reply_n 1._o to_o put_v any_o substance_n into_o this_o answer_n or_o any_o force_n pertinent_a to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n it_o must_v be_v no_o great_a question_n but_o clear_a out_o of_o question_n that_o these_o corinthian_n in_o their_o first_o constitution_n be_v clean_o and_o absolute_o separate_v from_o such_o idol_n temple_n and_o that_o not_o only_o local_o but_o in_o their_o soul_n and_o judgement_n mind_n and_o heart_n utter_o cut_v off_o from_o such_o unclean_a touch_v so_o that_o 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dispense_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n though_o there_o have_v be_v corruption_n in_o the_o order_n and_o dispensation_n of_o these_o thing_n among_o they_o especial_o in_o the_o time_n when_o we_o live_v there_o yet_o neither_o their_o church_n nor_o ministry_n nor_o ministration_n be_v such_o or_o so_o false_a that_o fellowship_n with_o god_n can_v not_o be_v hold_v of_o they_o not_o only_o inward_o and_o secret_o but_o also_o outward_o and_o visible_o not_o only_o in_o inward_a conversion_n and_o conviction_n but_o also_o in_o outward_a and_o visible_a reformation_n according_a to_o light_v receive_v take_v my_o word_n as_o i_o write_v they_o and_o as_o he_o relate_v they_o and_o my_o meaning_n be_v plain_a enough_o i_o speak_v of_o such_o worship_n which_o if_o false_a fellowship_n with_o god_n be_v lose_v which_o can_v true_o be_v avouch_v of_o any_o part_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o england_n it_o be_v not_o true_o say_v

to_o death_n and_o in_o he_o jesus_n as_o jesus_n 4._o let_v tyrant_n and_o persecutor_n profess_v what_o they_o will_v that_o they_o do_v not_o persecute_v jesus_n as_o jesus_n but_o under_o some_o other_o pretence_n yet_o that_o vari_v not_o the_o truth_n nor_o impeach_v the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o position_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o conscience_n right_o inform_v or_o to_o persecute_v any_o for_o profess_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n discusser_n one_o thing_n i_o see_v apparent_o in_o the_o lord_n overrule_a of_o the_o pen_n of_o this_o answerer_n viz._n a_o secret_a whisper_n from_o heaven_n to_o he_o that_o yet_o he_o have_v never_o leave_v the_o tent_n of_o such_o who_o think_v they_o do_v god_n good_a service_n in_o kill_v the_o lord_n jesus_n in_o his_o servant_n and_o yet_o say_v if_o we_o have_v be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o our_o father_n in_o queen_n maryes_fw-mi day_n we_o will_v never_o have_v consent_v to_o such_o persecution_n etc._n etc._n defender_n very_o this_o be_v a_o strange_a sight_n indeed_o and_o which_o all_o sober_a mind_n may_v well_o wonder_v at_o to_o see_v apparent_o that_o he_o who_o lay_v down_o this_o for_o a_o position_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o conscience_n right_o inform_v have_v have_v a_o secret_a whisper_n from_o heaven_n that_o himself_o never_o yet_o leave_v the_o tent_n of_o persecutor_n sure_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o strange_a and_o strong_a sight_n even_o the_o fight_n of_o such_o as_o make_v themselves_o equal_a with_o god_n that_o can_v see_v a_o man_n have_v not_o leave_v the_o tent_n of_o persecutor_n that_o be_v the_o communion_n with_o persecutor_n when_o he_o open_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v utter_o unlawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o the_o truth_n sake_n it_o be_v true_a god_n may_v see_v that_o in_o a_o man_n heart_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o profession_n of_o his_o mouth_n and_o pen._n and_o so_o may_v this_o discusser_n see_v as_o much_o if_o he_o be_v equal_a with_o god_n but_o yet_o herein_o i_o dare_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v he_o exalt_v himself_o not_o only_o equal_a with_o god_n but_o above_o god_n to_o see_v one_o contradictory_n in_o another_o which_o god_n himself_o can_v see_v it_o be_v contradictory_n to_o persecution_n to_o believe_v it_o unlawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o the_o truth_n sake_n he_o than_o that_o can_v see_v yea_o &_o see_v apparent_o &_o that_o out_o of_o the_o faith_n &_o profession_n of_o this_o truth_n that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o for_o the_o truth_n he_o that_o can_v see_v i_o say_v fellowship_n with_o persecution_n in_o the_o faith_n or_o profession_n of_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o persecution_n very_o he_o can_v see_v darkness_n in_o light_n evil_a in_o good_a falsehood_n in_o truth_n which_o god_n himself_o such_o be_v the_o perfection_n of_o his_o truth_n can_v do_v discusser_n let_v i_o also_o add_v a_o second_o so_o far_o as_o the_o answerer_n by_o preach_v for_o persecution_n have_v be_v a_o guide_n to_o other_o in_o persecute_v any_o of_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n witness_v to_o his_o truth_n so_o far_o his_o own_o mouth_n and_o hand_n shall_v judge_v i_o hope_v not_o his_o person_n but_o his_o action_n that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v suffer_v by_o he_o defender_n if_o any_o doctrine_n preach_v by_o i_o have_v guide_v any_o to_o persecute_v any_o of_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n for_o witness_v to_o any_o truth_n of_o christ_n than_o i_o confess_v i_o must_v lay_v my_o hand_n upon_o my_o mouth_n and_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v suffer_v by_o i_o but_o if_o the_o disousser_n can_v never_o be_v able_a to_o produce_v any_o such_o doctrine_n broach_v by_o i_o that_o have_v guide_v any_o to_o persecute_v any_o of_o god_n servant_n for_o witness_v to_o any_o truth_n of_o he_o as_o i_o trust_v in_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n he_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a then_o the_o discusser_n may_v know_v and_o the_o lord_n help_v his_o spirit_n to_o know_v it_o that_o his_o own_o mouth_n and_o hand_n shall_v one_o day_n judge_n if_o not_o his_o person_n yet_o his_o action_n that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v suffer_v in_o his_o poor_a servant_n even_o bitter_a persecution_n by_o his_o unjust_a slander_n chap._n 12._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o twelu_v chapter_n enter_v upon_o the_o discussion_n of_o the_o unlawfulness_n to_o persecute_v a_o erroneous_a and_o blind_a conscience_n discusser_n the_o second_o conclusion_n lay_v down_o by_o the_o answerer_n be_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v a_o erroneous_a and_o blind_a conscience_n even_o in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n till_o after_o admonition_n once_o or_o twice_o tit._n 3.10_o 11._o and_o then_o such_o conscience_n may_v be_v persecute_v because_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v so_o clear_a in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n that_o such_o a_o person_n can_v but_o sin_n against_o his_o conscience_n and_o so_o be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o that_o be_v of_o his_o conscience_n he_o may_v be_v persecute_v for_o sin_v against_o his_o own_o conscience_n defender_n they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o discusser_n not_o i_o that_o such_o as_o err_v in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n such_o conscience_n be_v then_o to_o be_v persecute_v no_o my_o word_n will_v clear_v themselves_o if_o they_o be_v true_o relate_v even_o as_o himself_o have_v print_v they_o thus_o they_o stand_v second_o for_o a_o erroneous_a and_o blind_a conscience_n even_o in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o till_o after_o admonition_n once_o or_o twice_o and_o so_o the_o apostle_n direct_v tit._n 3.10_o and_o give_v the_o reason_n that_o in_o fundamental_a &_o principal_a point_n of_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o such_o thing_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o he_o can_v but_o be_v convince_v in_o conscience_n of_o the_o dangerous_a error_n of_o his_o way_n after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n wise_o and_o faithful_o dispense_v and_o then_o if_o any_o one_o persist_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o conscience_n but_o against_o his_o conscience_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v ver_fw-la 11._o he_o be_v subvert_v and_o sin_v be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o that_o be_v of_o his_o own_o conscience_n so_o that_o if_o such_o a_o man_n after_o such_o admonition_n shall_v still_o persist_v in_o the_o error_n of_o his_o way_n and_o be_v therefore_o punish_v he_o be_v not_o persecute_v for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n but_o for_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n where_o though_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o though_o err_v in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n till_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n i_o do_v not_o therefore_o say_v as_o the_o discusser_n report_v i_o that_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n than_o such_o conscience_n may_v be_v persecute_v but_o that_o if_o such_o a_o man_n after_o such_o admonition_n shall_v still_o persist_v in_o the_o error_n of_o his_o way_n and_o be_v therefore_o punish_v he_o be_v not_o persecute_v for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n but_o for_o sin_v against_o his_o own_o conscience_n object_n but_o he_o that_o say_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o heretic_n till_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n he_o do_v as_o much_o as_o say_v that_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n it_o be_v then_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o heretic_n ans_fw-fr not_o so_o neither_o neither_o every_o heretic_n nor_o in_o every_o court_n not_o in_o every_o court_n or_o judicature_n but_o the_o same_o church_n that_o follow_v a_o heretic_n with_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n be_v further_a to_o pursue_v he_o if_o he_o remain_v obstinate_a with_o excommunication_n my_o word_n do_v express_v two_o thing_n 1._o that_o a_o heretic_n till_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n may_v not_o be_v pursue_v no_o not_o with_o the_o church-censure_n of_o excommunication_n but_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n it_o be_v then_o lawful_a for_o the_o church_n to_o proceed_v to_o his_o excommunication_n 2._o my_o word_n hold_v forth_o this_o also_o that_o if_o such_o a_o heretic_n so_o convince_v and_o admonish_v be_v afterward_o punish_v by_o any_o censure_n whether_o of_o church_n or_o court_n it_o can_v be_v say_v he_o be_v punish_v for_o his_o conscience_n but_o for_o sin_v against_o his_o conscience_n but_o it_o be_v no_o part_n of_o my_o word_n or_o meaning_n to_o say_v that_o every_o heretic_n though_o err_v in_o some_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n and_o for_o the_o same_o excommunicate_v shall_v forth_o with_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n unless_o it_o do_v afterward_o appear_v that_o he_o

break_v forth_o further_o either_o into_o blasphemy_n or_o idolatry_n or_o seducement_n of_o other_o to_o his_o heretical_a pernicious_a way_n discusser_n this_o three_o of_o titus_n which_o through_o fearful_a profanation_n have_v so_o many_o hundred_o year_n be_v the_o pretend_a bulwark_n of_o all_o the_o bloody_a wolf_n den_n of_o lion_n mountain_n of_o leopard_n hunt_v and_o devour_v the_o witness_n of_o jesus_n he_o that_o can_v but_o see_v man_n as_o tree_n may_v easy_o discern_v it_o shall_v now_o be_v the_o refuge_n and_o defence_n as_o i_o hope_v of_o the_o lamb_n and_o little_a one_o of_o jesus_n defender_n it_o be_v out_o of_o doubt_n that_o this_o text_n be_v as_o all_o the_o text_n in_o scripture_n be_v the_o just_a refuge_n and_o safe_a defence_n of_o the_o lamb_n and_o little_a one_o of_o jesus_n but_o all_o the_o wit_n and_o skill_n of_o the_o discusser_n can_v never_o so_o far_o wrest_v it_o or_o darken_v it_o as_o to_o make_v it_o a_o refuge_n and_o defence_n for_o heretic_n which_o be_v the_o point_n in_o hand_n chap._n 13._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o thirteen_o chapter_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o this_o heretic_n in_o titus_n discusser_n what_o be_v this_o heretic_n i_o find_v he_o common_o define_v to_o be_v such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v obstinate_a in_o fundamental_n and_o so_o the_o answerer_n seem_v to_o resent_v he_o say_v the_o apostle_n render_v this_o reason_n why_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v persecute_v because_o in_o fundament_n ill_a and_o principal_a point_n of_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o the_o heretic_n can_v but_o be_v convince_v in_o his_o own_o conscience_n but_o of_o this_o reason_n i_o find_v not_o one_o tittle_n mention_v in_o this_o scripture_n for_o so_o he_o say_v such_o a_o one_o be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o yet_o he_o say_v not_o nor_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o fundamental_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o after_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n a_o person_n that_o submit_v not_o to_o they_o be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o more_o than_o in_o lesser_a point_n this_o word_n than_o a_o heretic_n be_v no_o more_o than_o a_o obstinate_a and_o wilful_a person_n in_o the_o church_n of_o crect_n strive_v and_o contend_v about_o unprofitable_a question_n &_o genealogy_n what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v with_o such_o a_o one_o let_v he_o be_v once_o and_o twice_o admonish_v what_o if_o once_o and_o twice_o admonition_n prevail_v not_o the_o apostle_n seem_v to_o answer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o man_n that_o be_v wilful_o obstinate_a after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n reject_v he_o defender_n the_o discusser_n be_v so_o far_o from_o weaken_v what_o i_o say_v from_o this_o text_n in_o titus_n that_o he_o rather_o confirm_v it_o yea_o and_o grant_v a_o large_a allowance_n to_o proceed_v against_o erroneous_a person_n than_o i_o do_v for_o 1._o whereas_o i_o have_v say_v the_o apostle_n direct_v the_o church_n to_o proceed_v against_o a_o heretic_n that_o be_v against_o one_o obstinate_o erroneous_a in_o fundamental_n the_o discusser_n say_v yea_o and_o against_o such_o as_o err_v though_o not_o in_o fundamental_n but_o in_o lesser_a point_n and_o continue_v obstinate_a in_o strive_v about_o unprofitable_a question_n and_o genealogy_n 2._o he_o that_o grant_v as_o the_o discusser_n do_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v so_o clear_a even_o in_o lesser_a point_n that_o he_o that_o persi_v in_o his_o error_n after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n be_v wilful_o obstinate_a he_o sure_o will_v not_o stick_v to_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v much_o more_o clear_a in_o fundamental_a and_o principal_a point_n that_o he_o that_o shall_v persist_v in_o error_n against_o the_o foundation_n after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n he_o can_v but_o be_v much_o more_o just_o account_v wilful_o obstinate_a and_o to_o sin_n against_o the_o light_n of_o his_o own_o conscience_n 3._o though_o he_o say_v he_o find_v no_o one_o tittle_n in_o the_o text_n that_o in_o fundamental_a and_o principal_a point_n of_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n the_o heretic_n can_v but_o be_v convince_v in_o his_o own_o conscience_n yet_o he_o may_v easy_o find_v it_o and_o can_v but_o find_v it_o if_o he_o be_v please_v to_o ponder_v the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n yea_o and_o he_o do_v find_v it_o though_o he_o be_v please_v to_o deny_v it_o for_o the_o heretic_n who_o the_o text_n speak_v of_o himself_o expound_v to_o be_v a_o man_n wilful_o obstinate_a a_o evidence_n that_o he_o err_v not_o through_o want_n of_o light_n or_o weakness_n of_o knowledge_n but_o through_o strength_n of_o will_n whence_o also_o he_o be_v say_v to_o be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o of_o his_o own_o conscience_n a_o evidence_n that_o the_o point_n about_o which_o he_o err_v be_v so_o clear_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n that_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n the_o heretic_n can_v but_o be_v convince_v in_o his_o own_o conscience_n and_o if_o this_o hold_n in_o sundry_a lesser_a point_n how_o much_o more_o do_v it_o hold_v in_o fundamental_n and_o principal_n unless_o he_o think_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v more_o dark_a &_o obscure_v in_o deliver_v principle_n and_o milk_n to_o babe_n then_o in_o deliver_v lesser_a point_n to_o man_n of_o ripe_a growth_n if_o the_o word_n be_v so_o clear_a as_o to_o make_v fundamental_o clear_a though_o not_o any_o more_o clear_a as_o he_o say_v than_o lesser_a point_n yet_o than_o it_o follow_v it_o make_v they_o both_o so_o clear_a that_o he_o that_o submit_v not_o to_o they_o after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n be_v condemn_v of_o himself_o 4._o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v a_o heretic_n be_v subvert_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v he_o be_v as_o a_o house_n subvert_v o●_n turn_v upside_o down_o or_o inside_n outward_a as_o a_o house_n turn_v off_o from_o the_o foundation_n it_o be_v too_o dilute_a and_o loose_v a_o interpretation_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o the_o discusser_n make_v chap._n 14._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o be_v turn_v crooked_a a_o word_n opposite_a to_o straightness_n or_o rightnesse_n for_o he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o be_v not_o the_o meaning_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o he_o join_v with_o the_o other_o mean_a turned-crooked_n for_o that_o be_v not_o subvert_v but_o pervert_v and_o if_o paul_n say_v that_o the_o heretic_n be_v subvert_v or_o turn_v off_o from_o the_o foundation_n and_o give_v that_o as_o a_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v be_v censure_v how_o then_o can_v the_o discusser_n say_v he_o find_v not_o one_o tittle_n of_o this_o reason_n in_o this_o scripture_n 5._o take_v the_o discusser_n own_o interpretation_n of_o a_o heretic_n for_o a_o obstinate_a and_o wilful_a striver_n or_o contend_v about_o unprofitable_a question_n and_o genealogy_n those_o question_n and_o genealogy_n be_v express_o describe_v by_o the_o apostle_n not_o only_o to_o be_v unprofitable_a and_o vain_a but_o also_o to_o tend_v to_o the_o subversion_n of_o whole_a house_n tit._n 1.10_o 11._o which_o may_v seem_v evident_o to_o argue_v that_o their_o dispute_n about_o the_o genealogy_n of_o christ_n tend_v to_o cut_v off_o the_o line_n of_o christ_n or_o at_o least_o to_o make_v it_o doubtful_a whether_o he_o be_v the_o lineal_a heir_n of_o david_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o whether_o he_o be_v the_o true_a messiah_n or_o no._n and_o thus_o if_o the_o discusser_n own_o meaning_n of_o a_o heretic_n may_v stand_v still_o a_o heretic_n be_v he_o who_o be_v wilful_o obstinate_a in_o hold_v forth_o such_o error_n as_o subvert_v the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n chap._n 14._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o fourteen_o chapter_n explain_v what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v subvert_v and_o self_n condemn_v discusser_n subvert_v be_v not_o here_o intend_v to_o be_v speak_v of_o heretic_n in_o fundamental_n only_o but_o of_o man_n obstinate_a in_o the_o lesser_a question_n 1._o subvert_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d crooked_a a_o word_n opposite_a to_o rightnesse_n or_o straightness_n 2._o he_o sin_v wander_v from_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n 3._o he_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o condemn_v of_o himself_o that_o be_v by_o the_o secret_a check_n and_o whisper_n of_o his_o own_o conscience_n which_o will_v take_v god_n part_n against_o a_o man_n self_n in_o accuse_v smite_v etc._n etc._n defender_n all_o this_o so_o far_o as_o error_n be_v find_v in_o it_o be_v speak_v to_o &_o discharge_v in_o the_o former_a

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speak_v that_o the_o apostle_n intend_v a_o church-censure_n yet_o doubtless_o jerome_n aim_v at_o more_o in_o those_o comparison_n even_o to_o a_o civil_a censure_n also_o for_o to_o these_o comparison_n he_o immediate_o subjoin_v these_o word_n arius_n in_o alexandriâ_fw-la una_fw-la scintilla_fw-la fuit_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la statim_fw-la oppressa_fw-la est_fw-la totum_fw-la orbem_fw-la eius_fw-la flamma_fw-la de_fw-la populata_fw-la est_fw-la arius_n say_v he_o be_v but_o one_o sparkle_n yet_o because_o he_o be_v not_o speedy_o execute_v or_o suppress_v his_o flame_n depopulate_v all_o the_o world_n where_o by_o the_o extinguish_n of_o that_o spark_n he_o do_v not_o mean_a by_o excommunication_n for_o he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o arius_n have_v be_v speedy_o excommunicate_a

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the_o prophet_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o if_o a_o person_n unclean_a by_o a_o dead_a body_n do_v touch_v holy_a thing_n those_o holy_a thing_n become_v unclean_a to_o he_o and_o so_o say_v he_o be_v this_o nation_n and_o so_o be_v every_o work_n of_o their_o hand_n and_o that_o which_o they_o offer_v here_o be_v unclean_a and_o from_o hence_o he_o argue_v that_o even_o church-covenant_n make_v and_o ordinance_n practise_v by_o person_n pollute_v through_o spiritual_a deadness_n and_o filthiness_n of_o communion_n they_o become_v unclean_a to_o they_o and_o be_v profane_v by_o they_o which_o he_o solemn_o desire_v may_v be_v advise_o weigh_v whereto_o my_o answer_n be_v that_o if_o he_o have_v well_o weigh_v this_o place_n himself_o he_o will_v never_o have_v allege_v it_o to_o his_o purpose_n his_o purpose_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o church_n can_v be_v constitute_v of_o such_o member_n as_o be_v unclean_a by_o antichristian_a pollution_n or_o if_o they_o be_v so_o 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what_o member_n of_o what_o church_n he_o say_v not_o and_o yet_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o stumble_a block_n that_o turn_v he_o out_o of_o the_o way_n of_o communion_n with_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o country_n who_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v never_o hear_v of_o it_o unto_o this_o day_n let_v he_o now_o say_v that_o my_o own_o confession_n be_v sufficient_a answer_n to_o myself_o as_o if_o i_o grant_v that_o in_o case_n the_o member_n have_v be_v know_v who_o so_o reproach_v salem_n and_o the_o church_n know_v whereof_o he_o be_v a_o member_n that_o then_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n that_o do_v but_o tolerate_v her_o member_n in_o a_o causeless_a reproach_n yea_o and_o from_o all_o other_o church_n too_o that_o hold_v communion_n with_o that_o church_n for_o he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a more_o go_v to_o a_o separation_n then_o so_o unless_o he_o have_v forget_v the_o principle_n and_o rudiment_n of_o church-government_n he_o confess_v that_o to_o be_v true_a which_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o chirurgery_n but_o butchery_n to_o heal_v every_o sore_a with_o no_o other_o medicine_n but_o with_o abscission_n from_o the_o body_n but_o yet_o as_o if_o he_o can_v make_v my_o own_o expression_n confutation_n of_o myself_o he_o say_v that_o i_o have_v confess_v that_o which_o indeed_o be_v not_o my_o confession_n but_o my_o collection_n of_o his_o argugument_n that_o church_n of_o godly_a person_n must_v be_v separate_v from_o for_o inordinate_a worldliness_n if_o this_o be_v a_o contradiction_n it_o be_v he_o and_o not_o i_o as_o i_o show_v above_o neither_o do_v i_o own_o any_o such_o confession_n as_o i_o which_o he_o subjoin_v that_o church_n may_v be_v separate_v from_o when_o they_o tolerate_v their_o member_n in_o their_o causeless_a reproach_n it_o seem_v he_o think_v i_o neither_o remember_v i_o own_o word_n nor_o know_v any_o church-censure_n but_o excommunication_n he_o proceed_v to_o tell_v we_o his_o judgement_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o case_n as_o excommunication_n or_o separation_n be_v it_o be_v not_o say_v he_o every_o sore_a of_o infirmity_n or_o ignorance_n but_o a_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n of_o obstinacy_n for_o which_o i_o maintain_v that_o a_o person_n ought_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o or_o a_o church_n separate_v from_o i_o know_v not_o how_o this_o judgement_n of_o he_o may_v satisfy_v his_o neighbour_n but_o a_o good_a conscience_n willing_a to_o walk_v by_o rule_n will_v still_o inquire_v where_o it_o be_v meet_v first_o whether_o every_o obstinacy_n even_o before_o conviction_n and_o that_o in_o a_o sin_n less_o heinous_a be_v such_o a_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n for_o which_o either_o a_o person_n ought_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o or_o a_o church_n separate_v from_o for_o there_o be_v a_o obstinacy_n against_o a_o good_a way_n as_o there_o be_v a_o scorn_v of_o a_o good_a way_n which_o be_v before_o conviction_n even_o of_o ignorance_n and_o to_o these_o wisdom_n communicate_v good_a 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body_n in_o persecute_v of_o they_o we_o must_v needs_o tell_v he_o again_o that_o neither_o himself_n nor_o any_o other_o that_o i_o can_v hear_v off_o do_v ever_o suffer_v any_o censure_n which_o he_o call_v cruelty_n to_o conscience_n and_o body_n till_o after_o his_o separation_n from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o country_n and_o though_o he_o say_v in_o the_o next_o word_n he_o separate_v conscientious_o and_o peaceable_o yet_o do_v ever_o peaceable_a conscience_n before_o he_o separate_v from_o church_n for_o a_o offence_n before_o it_o be_v commit_v if_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o separate_v for_o our_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o hear_v the_o word_n in_o the_o parish_n there_o let_v all_o that_o fear_n god_n who_o

heart_n be_v not_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n or_o partiality_n judge_v whether_o his_o reason_n allege_v to_o convince_v we_o of_o such_o a_o sin_n the_o strong_a whereof_o be_v answer_v in_o my_o letter_n to_o he_o and_o have_v be_v again_o refute_v in_o this_o reply_n have_v be_v of_o such_o convince_a power_n as_o that_o we_o for_o not_o harken_v to_o he_o must_v needs_o lie_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o a_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n of_o obstinacy_n and_o that_o after_o conviction_n i_o may_v therefore_o well_o call_v it_o not_o chirurgery_n but_o butchery_n to_o cut_v off_o not_o only_o so_o many_o member_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o so_o many_o church_n of_o christ_n from_o fellowship_n with_o christ_n before_o any_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n of_o obstinacy_n be_v discover_v to_o we_o nay_o i_o fear_v i_o may_v speak_v a_o further_a word_n and_o yet_o i_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o speak_v any_o doubtful_a thing_n but_o sure_o my_o memory_n much_o fail_v i_o or_o else_o he_o 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