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A66432 A vindication of the answer to the popish address presented to the ministers of the Church of England in reply to a pamphlet abusively intituled, A clear proof of the certainty and usefulness of the Protestant rule of faith, &c. Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1688 (1688) Wing W2739; ESTC R10348 38,271 45

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