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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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article_n of_o original_a concupiscence_n in_o the_o regenerate_v chap._n i._n the_o catholic_a doctrine_n touch_v concupiscence_n explicate_v and_o prove_v because_v bel_n in_o this_o article_n do_v after_o his_o accustom_a manner_n proceed_v confuse_o and_o deceitful_o before_o i_o answer_v his_o objection_n i_o will_v particular_o by_o conclusion_n set_v down_o the_o catholic_a doctrine_n upon_o this_o matter_n whereby_o the_o reader_n may_v clear_o see_v both_o what_o catholic_n defend_v and_o what_o bel_n ought_v to_o impugn_v suppose_v therefore_o a_o distinction_n of_o concupiscence_n which_o bel_n himself_o use_v pag._n 49._o into_o habitual_a which_o be_v the_o pronesse_n and_o inclination_n in_o the_o inferior_a portion_n or_o power_n of_o our_o corrupt_a nature_n unto_o disorderly_a action_n and_o actual_a which_o be_v the_o disordinate_a act_n them self_o 2._o the_o first_o conclusion_n be_v that_o habitual_a concupiscence_n in_o man_n not_o yet_o regenerate_v bellarmin_n 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and_o culpable_a l._n de_fw-fr perfec_fw-la iustit_fw-la c._n 6._o s._n ambrose_n de_fw-fr apolog_fw-la david_n c._n 13._o root_n and_o seminary_n of_o sin_n and_o because_o it_o cause_v difficulty_n to_o do_v good_a it_o be_v otherwhile_o call_v of_o s._n austin_n l._n 6._o contr_n 7._o s._n austin_n tom_fw-mi 7._o julian._n c._n 19_o 1._o retract_v c._n 15._o serm_n 12._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n l._n the_o continent_n c._n 4._o &_o other_o languor_n sickness_n defect_n infirmity_n as_o because_o it_o be_v in_o our_o inferior_a portion_n it_o be_v call_v of_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 7._o v._n 23._o la_o of_o our_o member_n and_o of_o other_o la_o of_o the_o flesh_n and_o final_o because_o it_o be_v inflict_v upon_o we_o for_o adam_n sin_n s._n austin_n 1._o retract_v c._n 15._o call_v it_o punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o also_o sin_n because_o it_o be_v the_o effect_n thereof_o l._n 1._o contr_n dvas_fw-la epist_n 7._o s._n augustin_n to_o 7._o pelag._n c._n 13._o and_o l._n de_fw-fr 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