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A02199 More vvorke for priests: or An answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read prayers and devised leitourgies comprised in the first part of his booke; intituled A short treatise against the Donatists of England: wherein is proved that the serving of God in such away [sic] and manner is a superstitious and vaine worship. Written by John Greenwood Christs faythfull martyr: here-unto is added by another man, many other argumers [sic] against stinted service and booke-prayer.; Answere to George Giffords pretended defence of read praiers and devised litourgies Greenwood, John, d. 1593. 1640 (1640) STC 12341; ESTC S103421 44,326 116

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15._o other_o foundation_n can_v no_o man_n lie_z etc._n etc._n gal._n 3._o 15_o heb._n 2_o 3_o 4._o and_o 9_o 14_o mat._n 5._o 18._o 2_o timot._n 3_o 15._o 16._o 17_o rev._n 22._o 18._o 19_o 2._o pet._n 1._o 20._o 1_o cor._n 12_o 7._o iam._n 4.14_o rom_n 8.7_o and_o 11_o 34.1_o cor._n 2.16_o and_o 3.19_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 5._o act._n 16.13.13_o tim._n 2.1_o 34_o 5._o gal._n 1.8.9_o rev._n 22.18.19.2_o tim._n 1.13_o 1_o tim._n 6_o 14_o 1_o cor_n 2.16_o and_o 2_o 20._o mr._n barrowes_n refutation_n discovery_n etc._n rev._n 24_o 9_o 10.11.12_o esa._n 52.11_o ierem._n 51_o 6_o 45._o mat._n 116_o rom._n 8.26_o