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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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of_o the_o divine_a scripture_n admonish_v we_o and_o will_v not_o be_v heal_v or_o reform_v by_o the_o reprehension_n thereof_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o fire_n abide_v we_o which_o be_v prepare_v for_o sinner_n and_o we_o shall_v come_v unto_o that_o fire_n in_o which_o of_o what_o sort_n every_o man_n work_n be_v the_o fire_n shall_v try_v and_o as_o i_o think_v it_o be_v of_o necessity_n that_o we_o must_v all_o come_v unto_o that_o fire_n although_o one_o be_v paul_n or_o peter_n yet_o he_o come_v to_o that_o fire_n but_o they_o that_o be_v such_o do_v hear_v although_o thou_o pass_v through_o fire_n the_o flame_n ●hal_v not_o burn_v thou_o but_o if_o any_o be_v a_o sinner_n like_o i_o he_o shall_v ●ome_v in_o deed_n unto_o that_o fire_n as_o peter_n &_o paul_n but_o he_o shall_v ●ot_n so_o pass_v through_o it_o as_o peter_n &_o paul_n more_o of_o his_o general_a purgation_n of_o all_o man_n and_o not_o the_o damn_v only_o you_o ●ay_v read_v in_o num._n hom._n 25._o vides_fw-la quomodo_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o se●st_v how_o every_o man_n that_o depart_v out_o of_o the_o battle_n of_o this_o life_n have_v need_n of_o purification_n etc._n etc._n yet_o say_v bristol_n that_o of_o the_o purgation_n of_o such_o as_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n there_o be_v no_o word_n which_o although_o he_o speak_v of_o augustin_n who_o word_n he_o cit_v ad_fw-la quod_fw-la vult_fw-la hae._n 43._o yet_o he_o say_v untrue_o for_o thus_o he_o write_v in_o the_o same_o place_n sunt_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v other_o opinion_n of_o this_o origen_n which_o the_o catholic_a church_n do_v not_o receive_v at_o all_o in_o which_o it_o do_v not_o false_o accuse_v he_o neither_o can_v be_v so_o excuse_v by_o his_o defender_n especial_o concern_v purgation_n &_o deliverance_n and_o again_o after_o long_a time_n the_o revolution_n unto_o the_o same_o evil_n of_o every_o reasonable_a creature_n i_o suppose_v he_o that_o speak_v of_o the_o purgation_n of_o every_o reasonable_a creature_n speak_v of_o the_o purgation_n of_o such_o as_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n also_o wherefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o origen_n err_v not_o only_o about_o hell_n &_o heaven_n and_o the_o purgation_n of_o the_o damn_a but_o also_o about_o the_o purgation_n of_o such_o as_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n therefore_o bristol_n need_v not_o gather_v my_o argument_n as_o he_o do_v in_o scorn_n there_o be_v no_o such_o purgatory_n as_o origen_n &_o carpocrates_n will_v have_v therefore_o there_o be_v no_o purgatory_n at_o all_o but_o what_o shall_v carpocrates_n come_v in_o this_o title_n but_o for_o a_o sorry_a sophism_n when_o we_o speak_v of_o origen_n only_o wherefore_o if_o you_o will_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o frame_v my_o argument_n although_o i_o mean_v not_o a_o argument_n out_o of_o origens_n purge_v fire_n only_o it_o shall_v be_v thus_o there_o be_v no_o such_o purge_a fire_n as_o origen_n will_v for_o they_o that_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n such_o as_o origens_n fire_n be_v the_o fire_n that_o the_o papist_n will_v have_v therefore_o there_o be_v no_o such_o purge_a fire_n as_o the_o papist_n will_v have_v relieve_v of_o the_o dead_a by_o prayer_n if_o the_o dead_a be_v not_o relieve_v we_o say_v quod_fw-la bristol_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v they_o must_v endure_v a_o fiery_a and_o therefore_o a_o most_o painful_a purgation_n and_o for_o this_o say_n he_o quote_v most_o impudent_o 1._o cor._n 3._o but_o i_o pray_v you_o bristol_n where_o say_v s._n paul_n the_o dead_a must_v endure_v a_o fiery_a purgation_n or_o where_o make_v he_o any_o exception_n of_o their_o relieve_v he_o say_v the_o fire_n shall_v try_v every_o man_n work_n be_v every_o man_n only_o some_o kind_n of_o dead_a man_n or_o be_v every_o man_n work_n the_o man_n himself_o or_o be_v the_o trial_n of_o every_o man_n work_n of_o what_o sort_n it_o be_v a_o purgation_n either_o of_o the_o man_n or_o of_o the_o work_n be_v thou_o not_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v s._n paul_n to_o say_v that_o whereof_o he_o say_v nothing_o at_o all_o even_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o s._n augustine_n but_o that_o aerius_n be_v not_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o be_v profitable_a i_o show_v by_o that_o of_o the_o most_o ancient_a writer_n the_o heracleonit_n among_o other_o their_o heresy_n be_v charge_v to_o bury_v their_o dead_a with_o invocation_n and_o to_o redeem_v they_o with_o oil_n balm_n and_o water_n and_o invocation_n say_v over_o their_o head_n as_o augustine_n and_o epiphanius_n show_v out_o of_o irenaeus_n now_o come_v bristol_n and_o in_o many_o needless_a word_n rehearse_v other_o part_n of_o their_o heresy_n with_o their_o manner_n of_o season_v or_o receive_v those_o that_o believe_v in_o they_o by_o a_o counterfeit_a marriage_n and_o baptism_n and_o by_o anoint_v with_o balm_n etc._n etc._n conclude_v that_o this_o practice_n of_o they_o make_v as_o much_o against_o true_a baptism_n &_o solemnize_n of_o matrimony_n as_o against_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a aneal_v or_o anoint_v etc._n etc._n likewise_o may_v they_o conclude_v that_o all_o their_o ceremony_n be_v as_o good_a as_o baptism_n and_o marriage_n but_o whatsoever_o we_o read_v of_o the_o practice_n of_o heretic_n we_o must_v learn_v to_o distinguish_v that_o which_o be_v their_o own_o invention_n from_o that_o which_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o how_o shall_v we_o know_v god_n ordinance_n from_o heretic_n invention_n but_o by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n separate_v therefore_o baptism_n and_o marry_v which_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n from_o the_o rest_n that_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o the_o same_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o they_o use_v with_o such_o like_a matter_n be_v the_o invention_n of_o heretic_n howbeit_o say_v bristol_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a in_o all_o this_o be_v never_o a_o word_n no_o be_v how_o read_v you_o irenaeus_n lib._n cap._n 18._o out_o of_o which_o you_o cite_v so_o much_o &_o can_v not_o see_v that_o after_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o their_o season_n of_o their_o disciple_n alive_a he_o tell_v how_o they_o redeem_v they_o when_o they_o be_v dead_a alij_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la mortuis_fw-la redimunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n other_o there_o be_v that_o redeem_v the_o dead_a at_o the_o end_n of_o their_o depart_n pour_v on_o their_o head_n oil_n &_o water_n or_o the_o foresay_a ointment_n with_o water_n and_o with_o the_o foresay_a invocation_n &_o c_o do_v you_o not_o hear_v the_o same_o prayer_n say_v by_o the_o heretic_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o they_o utter_v before_o for_o the_o live_n but_o if_o the_o heracleonite_n shall_v fail_v i_o i_o affirm_v that_o montanus_n have_v in_o all_o point_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o papist_n because_o tertullian_n a_o montanist_n utter_v all_o those_o point_n in_o such_o book_n as_o he_o make_v be_v a_o montanist_n and_o especial_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la that_o terrullian_n utter_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o papist_n in_o all_o point_n bristol_n will_v not_o deny_v but_o he_o ask_v whether_o all_o be_v montanisme_n that_o tertullian_n have_v in_o that_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la and_o in_o so_o many_o other_o book_n as_o he_o write_v be_v a_o montanist_n no_o forsooth_o sir._n but_o montanus_n the_o heretic_n hold_v whatsoever_o he_o write_v in_o those_o book_n how_o then_o shall_v we_o discern_v that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o montanus_n from_o that_o which_o he_o have_v common_a with_o the_o catholic_a church_n i_o deliver_v a_o rule_n even_o now_o concern_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o heracleonite_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o purgatory_n be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o they_o be_v find_v in_o a_o disciple_n of_o montanus_n therefore_o they_o stink_n of_o montanisme_n add_v hereunto_o that_o in_o so_o many_o book_n as_o tertullian_n do_v write_v be_v a_o catholic_a there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a or_o suffer_v after_o this_o life_n of_o the_o faithful_a last_o of_o all_o tertullian_n himself_o tell_v you_o plain_o that_o paracletus_fw-la the_o comforter_n by_o which_o he_o mean_v the_o spirit_n of_o montanus_n have_v reveal_v very_o often_o that_o every_o small_a offence_n must_v be_v punish_v after_o this_o life_n in_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o any_o except_o martyr_n shall_v not_o go_v immediate_o into_o paradise_n but_o tarry_v in_o prison_n until_o it_o have_v pay_v the_o uttermost_a farthing_n what_o need_v he_o to_o cite_v the_o authority_n of_o his_o paracletus_fw-la if_o he_o have_v speak_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v common_o receive_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o say_v since_o i_o have_v set_v down_o in_o tertullians_n word_n in_o the_o page_n of_o purg._n 417._o by_o
my_o parish_n church_n he_o declare_v that_o he_o do_v wilful_o mistake_v my_o say_n of_o beere_n and_o bear_a clothes_n as_o though_o i_o deny_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v comely_a when_o i_o speak_v against_o superstition_n and_o covetuousnesse_n the_o second_o part_n concern_v the_o error_n that_o he_o lay_v cap._n 4._o to_o the_o father_n and_o not_o to_o us._n 1._o touch_v the_o heresy_n that_o bristol_n be_v in_o their_o time_n he_o demand_v what_o a_o thing_n it_o be_v that_o i_o charge_v the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n with_o heresy_n that_o be_v in_o fulke_n the_o apostle_n time_n and_o the_o same_o church_n in_o three_o arrian_n emperor_n time_n with_o the_o heresy_n of_o arrius_n i_o answer_v that_o i_o never_o charge_v either_o the_o apostle_n or_o the_o faithful_a member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o true_a church_n itself_o with_o any_o heresy_n that_o be_v in_o their_o time_n but_o answer_v the_o demand_n ar._n 15._o what_o church_n it_o be_v that_o have_v always_o stand_v still_o and_o steadfast_a while_o all_o congregation_n of_o heretic_n have_v decay_v i_o say_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n have_v always_o stand_v steadfast_a and_o inseparable_a from_o christ_n her_o head_n when_o all_o heretic_n have_v be_v and_o shall_v be_v consounded_a although_o she_o have_v not_o always_o flourish_v in_o worldly_a peace_n for_o until_o the_o time_n of_o constantine_n the_o great_a the_o church_n have_v small_a rest_n and_o soon_o after_o under_o the_o emperor_n constantius_n constano_n and_o valens_n it_o be_v great_o infect_v with_o the_o heresy_n of_o arrius_n where_o bristol_n falsifi_v my_o word_n report_v that_o i_o say_v the_o true_a church_n be_v infect_v etc._n etc._n the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n be_v oftentimes_o general_o take_v for_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o they_o that_o profess_v christianity_n as_o when_o i_o say_v the_o church_n be_v persecute_v by_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n i_o mean_v all_o that_o will_v profess_v 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church_n affirm_v your_o church_n to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n ar._n 85._o 16._o 106._o 10._o 27._o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o contradiction_n with_o as_o many_o falsification_n as_o there_o be_v quotation_n do_v sufficient_o declare_v that_o in_o all_o those_o place_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o popish_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o now_o be_v and_o not_o of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o of_o old_a time_n be_v at_o rome_n yet_o to_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o taste_n of_o his_o falsification_n of_o my_o word_n ar._n 106._o which_o he_o rehearse_v thus_o rome_n may_v be_v a_o nurse_n etc._n etc._n in_o truth_n they_o be_v these_o rome_n which_o feed_v her_o babe_n with_o poison_n of_o man_n tradition_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o milk_n of_o god_n word_n and_o will_v rather_o see_v they_o famish_v than_o they_o shall_v taste_v of_o god_n word_n may_v well_o be_v a_o nurse_n of_o antichristian_o but_o never_o do_v good_a unto_o christian_n the_o sixth_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v a_o puddle_n of_o all_o false_a doctrine_n and_o heresy_n whereof_o the_o whore_n bear_v a_o cup_n full_a out_o of_o which_o all_o nation_n have_v drink_v ar._n 102._o 38._o even_o from_o the_o apostle_n ●ime_v the_o devil_n never_o leave_v to_o set_v in_o his_o foot_n for_o his_o son_n antichristes_n dominion_n until_o he_o have_v place_v he_o in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o prepare_v the_o wide_a world_n for_o his_o walk_n and_o then_o come_v the_o general_a defection_n pur._n 287._o contra_fw-la all_o nation_n never_o consent_v to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papist_n for_o it_o have_v be_v often_o say_v the_o greek_a church_n and_o all_z other_o oriental_a church_n of_o assa_n and_o africa_n never_o receive_v the_o popish_a religion_n in_o many_o chief_a point_n and_o special_o in_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n authority_n they_o will_v not_o unto_o this_o day_n acknowledge_v her_o doctrine_n to_o be_v catholic_a nor_o her_o authority_n to_o be_v lawful_a ar._n 38._o 16_o 33._o 34._o these_o place_n be_v both_o full_a of_o falsification_n yet_o if_o they_o have_v be_v in_o so_o many_o word_n set_v down_o by_o i_o employ_v no_o contradiction_n for_o it_o may_v be_v that_o all_o nation_n mean_v as_o the_o scripture_n who_o word_n i_o cite_v apoc._n 18._o not_o all_o of_o every_o nation_n but_o some_o of_o all_o nation_n have_v drink_v of_o the_o whore_n cup_n and_o yet_o never_o receive_v her_o religion_n in_o all_o thing_n and_o the_o general_a defection_n be_v mean_v of_o that_o great_a apostasy_n that_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o in_o which_o the_o great_a number_n shall_v fall_v from_o christ_n though_o they_o fall_v not_o all_o to_o the_o pope_n for_o many_o be_v fall_v to_o mahomet_n many_o revolt_v to_o idolatry_n many_o to_o other_o heresy_n beside_o popery_n the_o 7._o the_o religion_n of_o papist_n come_v in_o and_o prevail_v in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 607._o in_o which_o the_o pope_n first_o obtain_v his_o antichristian_a 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teach_v and_o write_v against_o it_o the_o 10_o the_o true_a catholic_a church_n have_v always_o resist_v all_o false_a opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o her_o duty_n be_v and_o fight_v against_o they_o and_o obtain_v the_o victory_n and_o triumph_v over_o they_o ar._n 11._o contra_fw-la in_o those_o ancient_a time_n they_o of_o the_o true_a church_n do_v not_o always_o weigh_v what_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o if_o heretic_n have_v any_o thing_n that_o seem_v to_o have_v a_o show_n of_o piety_n or_o charity_n they_o will_v draw_v it_o into_o use_n so_o they_o take_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n many_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n until_o at_o the_o length_n an._n 607._o the_o religion_n of_o the_o papist_n prevail_v and_o since_o that_o time_n that_o devilish_a heresy_n have_v always_o increase_v in_o error_n until_o the_o year_n 1414._o pur._n 419._o ar._n 35._o 36._o the_o former_a proposition_n be_v direct_o speak_v and_o 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etc._n etc._n and_o likewise_o except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n here_o say_v saunder_n he_o expound_v not_o the_o word_n of_o baptism_n but_o mean_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v to_o give_v the_o cummunion_n to_o infant_n not_o so_o much_o for_o necessity_n as_o for_o surety_n sake_n of_o which_o custom_n we_o have_v mention_n in_o dionysius_n ambrose_n and_o other_o the_o like_a answer_n he_o say_v may_v be_v make_v to_o innocentius_n augustinus_n and_o eusebius_n emissenus_fw-la which_o bring_v these_o word_n against_o the_o pelagian_n except'ye_o eat_v the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n to_o prove_v that_o infant_n can_v not_o have_v life_n except_o they_o be_v baptize_v to_o this_o i_o reply_v it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o such_o a_o erroneous_a custom_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v use_v in_o those_o ancient_a time_n to_o give_v the_o communion_n to_o infant_n whereof_o grow_v afterward_o 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etc._n etc._n a_o sacrament_n of_o this_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o place_n every_o day_n in_o some_o place_n by_o certain_a distance_n of_o day_n be_v prepare_v in_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o from_o the_o lord_n table_n be_v receive_v of_o some_o to_o life_n of_o some_o to_o destruction_n but_o the_o thing_n itself_o whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n be_v receive_v of_o every_o man_n to_o life_n of_o none_o to_o destruction_n whosoever_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o it_o and_o because_o saunder_n say_v the_o maintenance_n of_o life_n depend_v ordinary_o upon_o the_o eucharist_n alone_o the_o same_o augustine_n say_v to_o the_o contrary_a hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la manducare_fw-la illam_fw-la escam_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la bibere_fw-la potum_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la manere_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la manentem_fw-la in_o se_fw-la habere_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la &_o in_o quo_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la christus_fw-la pro●ul_fw-la dubio_fw-la nec_fw-la manducat_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la carnem_fw-la eius_fw-la nec_fw-la bibit_fw-la eius_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la licet_fw-la carnaliter_fw-la &_o visibiliter_fw-la premat_fw-la dentibus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la tantae_fw-la rei_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ad_fw-la iudi●itan_fw-mi sibi_fw-la manducat_fw-la &_o bibit_fw-la for_o this_o it_o be_v to_o eat_v that_o meat_n and_o to_o drink_v that_o drink_n to_o abide_v in_o christ_n and_o to_o have_v he_o abide_v in_o us._n and_o by_o this_o he_o which_o abide_v not_o in_o christ_n &_o in_o who_o christ_n do_v not_o abide_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n neither_o do_v he_o eat_v spiritual_o his_o flesh_n not_o drink_v his_o blood_n although_o carnal_o and_o visible_o he_o press_v with_o his_o tooth_n the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o rather_o he_o 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