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non_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la aliqui_fw-la iustam_fw-la causam_fw-la habeant_fw-la qua_fw-la communionem_fw-la svam_fw-la separent_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la orbis_n terrarum_fw-la eamue_fw-la appellent_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la christi_fw-la quòd_fw-la se_fw-la just_a ab_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la communione_fw-la separaverint_fw-la ibid._n nos_fw-la ideo_fw-la certi_fw-la sumus_fw-la neminem_fw-la se_fw-la à _fw-la communione_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la iuâ—â—è_fw-la separare_fw-la potuisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o be_v certain_a that_o none_o can_v just_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o again_o it_o be_v no_o way_n possible_a that_o any_o shall_v have_v reason_n to_o separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o so_o term_v themselves_o the_o church_n because_o upon_o just_a cause_n they_o have_v divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o society_n of_o all_o nation_n thus_o s._n aug._n 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church-discipline_n must_v be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n &_o prove_v by_o the_o clear_a text_n thereof_o but_o happy_o they_o never_o see_v it_o or_o if_o they_o do_v they_o dare_v not_o be_v so_o impudent_a as_o to_o allege_v it_o as_o you_o do_v against_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o author_n for_o s._n cyprian_n speak_v not_o of_o the_o whole_a volume_n of_o scripture_n but_o only_o of_o twelve_o or_o thirteen_o word_n thereof_o to_o wit_n this_o little_a sentence_n etc._n sentence_n praecipis_fw-la domine_fw-la ut_fw-la diligam_fw-la te_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr proximo_fw-la iubes_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la meam_fw-la eum_fw-la mensuram_fw-la complectar_fw-la etc._n etc._n legat_n hoc_fw-la unum_fw-la verbum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la hoc_fw-la mandato_fw-la meditetur_fw-la christiana_n religio_fw-la &_o inveniet_fw-la ex_fw-la hac_fw-la scriptura_fw-la omnium_fw-la doctrinarum_fw-la regulas_fw-la emanasse_n etc._n etc._n love_v thy_o lord_n god_n with_o all_o thy_o hart_n &_o thy_o neighbour_n 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〈◊〉_d tradition_n unwritten_a &_o that_o this_o be_v the_o prime_a ground_n of_o â—ayth_n more_o fundamental_a than_o scripture_n you_o most_o large_o labour_v to_o refel_v and_o term_v it_o pag._n 91._o a_o anti-â—hristian_a and_o impudent_a assertion_n to_o depress_v the_o write_a â—ord_n of_o god_n &_o exalt_v the_o profane_a bastardly_a apocryphal_a tradition_n of_o the_o pope_n this_o be_v bitter_a enough_o &_o yet_o cerâ—â—ynly_o you_o teach_v that_o there_o be_v tradition_n maintain_v and_o uphold_v the_o scripture_n in_o authority_n or_o 〈◊〉_d you_o speak_v inept_o not_o know_v what_o you_o affirm_v for_o some_o two_o page_n before_o this_o your_o reproachful_a word_n to_o wit_n pag._n 89._o you_o thus_o distinguish_v about_o tradition_n the_o church_n have_v no_o perpetual_a tradition_n but_o such_o as_o be_v either_o contain_v in_o scripture_n or_o which_o be_v subseruient_fw-fr to_o maintain_v the_o faith_n verity_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o 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christ._n second_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a bring_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n yet_o forbid_v that_o any_o image_n shall_v be_v adore_v with_o divine_a honour_n he_o both_o contradict_v himself_o and_o utter_v another_o manifest_a falsehood_n he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o say_v that_o the_o nicene_n council_n forbid_v divine_a worship_n of_o any_o image_n see_v in_o another_o place_n he_o thus_o write_v defence_n pag._n 453._o both_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o the_o divines_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n hold_v the_o image_n of_o god_n and_o our_o saviour_n and_o the_o cross_n must_v be_v adore_v with_o divine_a adoration_n brother_n adoration_n the_o minister_n have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o say_v in_o excuse_n of_o this_o contradiction_n and_o falsehood_n of_o his_o brother_n it_o be_v apparent_o false_a that_o the_o say_v nicene_n council_n bring_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n which_o may_v be_v prove_v by_o many_o testimony_n but_o this_o one_o may_v suffice_v iconum_fw-la suffice_v zonara_n in_o leone_n isaurico_fw-la &_o paulus_n diaconus_fw-la in_o miscella_fw-la lib._n 21._o accusabat_fw-la omnes_fw-la antecessores_fw-la principes_fw-la quasi_fw-la idololatrae_fw-la fuissent_fw-la propter_fw-la adorationem_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la iconum_fw-la that_o leo_n isauricus_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a oppose_a image-worshippe_n not_o as_o then_o beginning_n but_o for_o many_o year_n before_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n boast_v that_o he_o be_v the_o first_o christian_a emperor_n the_o rest_n have_v be_v idolator_n because_o they_o worship_v image_n so_o manifest_o do_v he_o oppose_v antiquity_n and_o so_o little_a truth_n there_o be_v in_o m._n whites_n image_n whites_n the_o minister_n say_v that_o the_o nicene_n synod_n bring_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o worship_v of_o image_n by_o definition_n not_o simple_o for_o the_o israelite_n worship_v melt_v image_n in_o dan_n and_o bethel_n and_o the_o symonian_o worship_v image_n euseb._n eccles._n historia_n lib._n 2._o c._n 13._o the_o gnostic_n worship_v the_o image_n of_o christ._n â—ren_n l._n 1._o c._n 13._o answer_n by_o this_o may_v appear_v that_o so_o you_o satisfy_v your_o spleen_n â—n_o compare_v we_o to_o idolater_n you_o care_v not_o how_o little_a you_o speak_v to_o the_o purpose_n the_o question_n be_v who_o first_o bring_v in_o the_o worship_n that_o for_o many_o age_n have_v be_v use_v universal_o by_o christian_n towards_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n you_o answer_v not_o the_o nicene_n synod_n simple_o but_o â—efore_o that_o council_n the_o israelite_n worship_v melt_v image_n in_o dan_n &_o â—eâ—hel_n and_o the_o synomians_n worship_v image_n to_o wit_n of_o simon_n magus_n and_o â—elen_fw-mi his_o strumpet_n be_v these_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n &_o his_o bless_a mother_n the_o gnostic_n also_o worship_v the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o paul_n sacrifice_v unto_o it_o and_o not_o only_o unto_o it_o but_o also_o with_o it_o unto_o the_o image_n of_o homer_n pythagoras_n plato_n aristotle_n and_o other_o profane_a man_n as_o irenaeus_n relateâ—_n li._n 2._o c._n 24._o and_o epiphan_n heres_fw-la 27._o the_o like_a do_v marcellina_n note_v by_o s._n aug._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la haeres_fw-la 23._o be_v this_o the_o catholic_a custom_n of_o worship_v image_n assertion_n three_o to_o pass_v yet_o up_o high_o that_o image_n begin_v in_o gregory_n the_o great_a his_o time_n and_o that_o he_o forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o they_o contain_v other_o three_o falsehood_n first_o gregory_n be_v abuse_v who_o only_o person_n only_o what_o the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 248._o lin_v 2d_o that_o gregory_n do_v not_o approve_v that_o image_n shall_v be_v worship_v any_o way_n be_v not_o only_o against_o friar_n bale_n but_o also_o against_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o gregory_n who_o say_v express_o lib._n 7._o epist._n 5._o that_o worship_n or_o veneration_n be_v due_a to_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n and_o image_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n wherefore_o when_o elswher_o lib._n 7._o epist._n 10.11_o he_o say_v that_o image_n be_v no_o way_n to_o be_v adore_v this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a as_o himself_o expound_v himself_o l._n 7._o epist._n 53._o non_fw-la tanquam_fw-la deus_fw-la image_n be_v not_o to_o be_v worship_v as_o god_n and_o again_o we_o prostrate_v ourselves_o before_o the_o image_n not_o as_o before_o the_o deity_n but_o we_o adore_v he_o who_o by_o his_o image_n we_o remember_v as_o bear_v or_o as_o crucify_a or_o as_o sit_v in_o glory_n where_o he_o teach_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o 〈◊〉_d must_v prostrate_v ourselves_o before_o our_o saviour_n image_n second_o that_o 〈◊〉_d hart_n and_o affection_n we_o must_v worship_v the_o divine_a sampler_n our_o savioâ—â—_n person_n command_v that_o none_o shall_v worship_v image_n as_o god_n believe_v as_o gentile_n do_v that_o some_o godhead_n be_v affix_v to_o they_o as_o he_o elsewhere_o declare_v colas_fw-la declare_v lib._n 7._o ep_n 53._o non_fw-la ut_fw-la eam_fw-la tanquam_fw-la deum_fw-la colas_fw-la himself_o and_o so_o manifest_o do_v he_o teach_v image-worship_n establish_v pilgrimage_n unto_o they_o by_o indulgence_n as_o 57_o as_o bale_n pagâ—â—_n of_o pope_n pag._n 24._o &_o 25._o symonds_n on_o the_o revelation_n pag._n 57_o friar_n bale_n accuse_v he_o thereof_o yea_o m._n symonds_n and_o m._n bale_n write_v thaâ—_n leo_n 140._o year_n before_o gregory_n decreeâ—_n the_o worship_n of_o image_n second_o polidore_n in_o this_o point_n be_v egregious_o falsify_v for_o he_o say_v not_o as_o the_o minister_n make_v he_o speak_v all_o father_n condemn_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n for_o fear_n 〈◊〉_d idolatry_n but_o his_o word_n be_v cultum_fw-la imagnum_fw-la testae_fw-la hieronymo_n omnes_fw-la veteres_fw-la patrâ—_n damnabant_fw-la metu_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la all_o old_a father_n as_o hierome_n witness_v do_v condemn_v worship_n of_o image_n for_o fear_n of_o idolatry_n by_o the_o
decease_v many_o year_n before_o be_v the_o author_n of_o salvation_n unto_o they_o that_o have_v lose_v themselves_o by_o their_o sloth_n patrocinatur_fw-la sloth_n homil._n 2._o in_o psal._n 50._o david_n mortuus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la merita_fw-la eius_fw-la vigent_fw-la homo_fw-la mortuus_fw-la vivo_fw-la patrocinatur_fw-la david_n be_v dead_a but_o his_o merit_n live_v the_o dead_a man_n be_v the_o patron_n of_o the_o live_n remittit_fw-la live_n serm._n de_fw-fr virtute_fw-la &_o vitio_fw-la ad_fw-la mortuos_fw-la confugiens_fw-la propter_fw-la eos_fw-la peccata_fw-la remittit_fw-la for_o their_o sake_n that_o be_v dead_a god_n forgive_v sin_n s._n ephrem_fw-la merear_fw-la ephrem_fw-la ephem_n serm_n de_fw-fr lau._n ss_z martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la vestris_fw-la precibus_fw-la saluari_fw-la merear_fw-la assist_v i_o o_o holy_a martyr_n before_o the_o throne_n of_o the_o divine_a majesty_n that_o by_o your_o prayer_n i_o may_v be_v save_v s._n augustine_n svi_fw-la augustine_n august_n lib._n qq_n in_o exod_n q._n 108._o significantur_fw-la martyr_n sancti_fw-la quorun_v orationibus_fw-la propitiatur_fw-la deus_fw-la peccatis_fw-la populi_fw-la svi_fw-la by_o the_o red_a skin_n of_o the_o wheather_n wherewith_o god_n will_v have_v the_o uâ—yles_n of_o the_o tabernacle_n cover_v we_o present_o understand_v our_o saviour_n make_v red_a and_o purple_v with_o his_o blood_n in_o his_o passion_n but_o they_o likewise_o signify_v the_o holy_a martyr_n by_o who_o prayer_n god_n be_v propitiate_v and_o appease_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o his_o people_n s._n maximus_n say_v sanctitate_fw-la say_v maximus_n serm_n de_fw-fr martyr_n tauric_n euadimus_fw-la inferni_fw-la tenebras_fw-la propriis_fw-la eorum_fw-la meritis_fw-la attamen_fw-la consocii_fw-la sanctitate_fw-la by_o devotion_n unto_o saint_n we_o avoid_v the_o pain_n of_o hell_n by_o their_o very_a merit_n be_v their_o fellow_n in_o sanctity_n s._n euthymius_n precibus_fw-la euthymius_n s._n euthym_n monachâ—â—_n in_o encomio_fw-la ad_fw-la beatam_fw-la virginem_fw-la mariam_n dum_fw-la hic_fw-la manemus_fw-la nos_fw-la protegas_fw-la supplicamus_fw-la &_o ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la parcat_fw-la filius_fw-la tuus_fw-la &_o deus_fw-la perennibus_fw-la tuis_fw-la precibus_fw-la o_o unspoted_a virgin_n mother_n thy_o son_n and_o god_n pardon_v we_o our_o sin_n by_o the_o incessancy_n of_o thy_o pray_v for_o us._n and_o can_v the_o holy_a father_n think_v worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n with_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n not_o to_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n which_o they_o so_o constant_o teach_v and_o commend_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o salvation_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o five_o demonstration_n that_o which_o the_o father_n do_v practice_v in_o their_o great_a need_n and_o in_o the_o chief_a act_n of_o religion_n when_o the_o use_n of_o true_a christian_a devotion_n be_v most_o necessary_a that_o they_o hold_v as_o assure_v and_o certain_a devotion_n &_o exercise_v of_o divine_a faith_n and_o christian_a piety_n such_o be_v the_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n with_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n unto_o which_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n do_v fly_v in_o their_o great_a distress_n s._n justina_n virgin_n and_o martyr_n be_v strong_o assault_v with_o fleshly_a temptation_n cause_v by_o magic_a incantation_n flee_v as_o s._n nazianzen_n write_v ferret_n write_v nazian_n orat_fw-la in_o s._n cyprian_n mariam_n virginem_fw-la rogavit_fw-la ut_fw-la periclitanti_fw-la virgini_fw-la opem_fw-la ferret_n unto_o the_o protection_n of_o the_o b._n virgin_n entreat_v she_o to_o assist_v a_o virgin_n that_o be_v in_o that_o danger_n whereby_o she_o get_v the_o victory_n s._n nazianzen_n himself_o be_v in_o the_o like_a affliction_n with_o great_a humility_n open_o in_o the_o church_n pray_v unto_o s._n basil_n etc._n basil_n idem_fw-la orat_fw-la in_o s._n basil._n o_o sacrum_n &_o divinum_fw-la caput_fw-la carnis_fw-la stimulum_fw-la etc._n etc._n tuis_fw-la siste_v precibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o dear_a saint_n look_v down_o on_o we_o from_o heaven_n and_o either_o stay_n with_o thy_o prayer_n this_o sting_n of_o the_o flesh_n give_v i_o of_o god_n for_o my_o instruction_n or_o else_o encourage_v i_o manful_o to_o resist_v it_o theodosius_n 33._o theodosius_n ruffin_n l._n 2._o histor._n c._n 33._o emperor_n be_v to_o go_v in_o expedition_n against_o eugenius_n the_o pagan_a tyrant_n make_v together_o with_o the_o bishop_n clergy_n and_o people_n solemn_a letanye_n &_o procession_n unto_o the_o tomb_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n where_o prostrate_a on_o the_o ground_n before_o their_o shrine_n auxilia_fw-la sibi_fw-la fida_fw-la intercessione_n sanctorum_fw-la poscebat_fw-la crave_v assure_v assistance_n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n general_n counsel_n be_v to_o decide_v controversy_n about_o the_o high_a mystery_n of_o religion_n 11._o religion_n council_n chalcedon_n can_v 11._o the_o whole_a council_n pray_v unto_o saint_n as_o that_o most_o holy_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n holy_a flavian_n live_v with_o god_n the_o bless_a martyr_n pray_v for_o us._n as_o also_o do_v s._n augustine_n suis._n augustine_n augustine_n lib._n 5._o the_o baptism_n contr_n donatist_n cap._n 2._o adiunet_n nos_fw-la cyprianê°_n orationibus_fw-la suis._n enter_v into_o the_o discussion_n of_o a_o most_o difficile_a controversy_n prefix_v this_o devotion_n holy_a cyprian_a help_v we_o with_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o very_a act_n of_o martyrdom_n when_o they_o be_v present_o to_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n they_o do_v invocate_v saint_n as_o do_v saint_n acyndimus_fw-la final_o the_o whole_a christian_a church_n at_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n still_o have_v use_v the_o same_o as_o appeareth_z by_o all_o ancient_a chrysostome_n ancient_a the_o roman_a that_o of_o jerusalem_n the_o aethiopian_a anaphora_fw-la syriaca_fw-la that_o of_o milan_n s._n basill_n s._n chrysostome_n liturgy_n that_o 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know_v of_o every_o one_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n this_o be_v that_o which_o make_v king_n david_n exult_v say_v 63._o say_v psal._n 118._o vers_fw-la 63._o i_o be_o partaker_n with_o all_o they_o that_o fear_v thou_o &_o keep_v thy_o commaundment_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n the_o apostle_n exhort_v we_o 12._o we_o coloss._n 1._o v._o 12._o gratias_fw-la agamus_fw-la deo_fw-la patri_fw-la qui_fw-la dignos_fw-la nos_fw-la fecit_fw-la in_o partem_fw-la sortis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la in_o lumine_fw-la this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o same_o apostle_n write_v to_o the_o corinthian_n 1.8.14_o exhort_v they_o to_o be_v liberal_a towards_o titus_n and_o luke_n for_o the_o present_n let_v your_o abundance_n in_o temporal_a good_n supply_v their_o want_n that_o also_o their_o abundance_n in_o pious_a work_n may_v be_v a_o supplement_n unto_o your_o want_n this_o hope_n to_o supply_v in_o this_o kind_a the_o spiritual_a need_n of_o christian_n by_o the_o abundance_n of_o his_o suffering_n 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