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A53737 A vindication of the Animadversions on Fiat lux wherein the principles of the Roman church, as to moderation, unity and truth are examined and sundry important controversies concerning the rule of faith, papal supremacy, the mass, images, &c. discussed / by John Owen. Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1664 (1664) Wing O822; ESTC R17597 313,141 517

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end_n do_v so_o absolute_o moralize_v a_o action_n that_o it_o of_o its_o self_n shall_v render_v it_o good_a or_o evil_n evil_a it_o may_v but_o good_a of_o its_o self_n it_o can_v for_o bonum_fw-la oritur_fw-la ex_fw-la integris_fw-la causis_fw-la malum_fw-la ex_fw-la quolibet_fw-la defectu_fw-la rectify_v the_o intention_n will_v not_o secure_v your_o morality_n and_o yet_o also_o on_o second_o thought_n that_o i_o see_v not_o much_o difference_n between_o the_o end_n that_o celsus_n propose_v unto_o himself_o upon_o his_o general_a principle_n and_o those_o that_o you_o propose_v to_o yourself_o upon_o your_o own_o as_o well_o as_o the_o way_n whereby_o you_o proceed_v be_v the_o same_o but_o yet_o upon_o the_o account_n before_o mention_v i_o shall_v free_v you_o from_o your_o fear_n of_o be_v think_v like_o he_o 3._o when_o protestant_n preach_v against_o our_o division_n they_o charge_v they_o upon_o the_o person_n of_o they_o that_o be_v guilty_a whereas_o you_o do_v it_o on_o 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chap._n 4._o §_o 17._o p._n 237._o §_o 18._o p._n 242_o 243._o §_o 20._o p._n 255._o and_o in_o sundry_a other_o place_n you_o add_v do_v he_o charge_v protestant_n that_o by_o their_o schism_n and_o sedition_n they_o make_v way_n for_o other_o revolt_n he_o do_v so_o and_o that_o frequent_o chap._n 3._o §_o 14._o p._n 187_o etc._n etc._n do_v he_o you_o add_v gather_v a_o rhapsody_n of_o insignificant_a word_n as_o do_v celsus_n i_o say_v he_o do_v in_o the_o pretend_a plea_n that_o he_o insist_o on_o for_o quaker_n and_o for_o presbyterian_o also_o chap._n 3._o §_o 13._o p._n 172_o 173_o etc._n etc._n again_o do_v he_o manage_v the_o argument_n of_o the_o jew_n against_o christianity_n as_o be_v do_v by_o celsus_n he_o do_v direct_o express_o and_o at_o large_a chap._n 3._o §_o 12._o p._n 158._o etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v because_o it_o may_v be_v you_o know_v it_o not_o you_o may_v have_v question_v the_o truth_n of_o my_o parallel_n on_o the_o side_n that_o concern_v celsus_n 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