reason_n be_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n &_o eusebius_n the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n as_o mr_n sm._n himself_o have_v english_v they_o be_v these_o therefore_o to_o defer_v &_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n &_o age_n of_o every_o person_n but_o especial_o as_o concern_v young_a child_n for_o what_o 〈…〉_o there_o to_o bring_v surety_n into_o danger_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n if_o there_o be_v no_o 〈…〉_o of_o hasten_v the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n see_v the_o surety_n be_v disable_v often_o 〈…〉_o to_o perform_v their_o promise_n both_o by_o reason_n of_o mortality_n and_o of_o the_o evil_a dispositiâ—_n sâ—â—e_z child_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n for_o who_o they_o promise_v in_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n â—_o first_o concern_v tertullian_n it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o thus_o he_o write_v â—n_o he_o be_v fall_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o cataphriges_fw-la or_o montanist_n â—â—_o so_o hold_v divers_a error_n as_o augustine_n and_o other_o have_v observe_v out_o of_o â—_o work_v and_o therefore_o be_v thus_o depart_v from_o the_o faith_n let_v â—e_a reader_n judge_v if_o this_o man_n be_v a_o competent_a witness_n in_o this_o case_n yet_o â—th_v not_o this_o man_n affirm_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v in_o his_o time_n but_o â—ther_o the_o contrary_a in_o that_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o surety_n for_o infant_n say_v what_o necessity_n be_v there_o to_o bring_v surety_n into_o danger_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n â—hich_v word_n do_v plain_o argue_v that_o the_o church_n then_o use_v to_o baptise_v inâ—ts_n 2._o again_o that_o which_o he_o affirm_v be_v his_o own_o private_a judgement_n â—d_a his_o reason_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n as_o the_o bring_n of_o surety_n into_o danger_n and_o â—â—_o the_o surety_n be_v disable_v oftentimes_o to_o perform_v their_o promise_n etc._n etc._n such_o surety_n â—ot_n be_v appoint_v of_o god_n 3._o p._n mart._n clas_n 4._o ca._n 8._o affirm_v that_o â—â—tullian_n deny_v baptism_n to_o young_a man_n and_o young_a widow_n and_o his_o own_o urd_n here_o relate_v do_v seem_v to_o intimate_v some_o such_o like_a thing_n in_o say_v 〈…〉_o far_o and_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n and_o â—â—_o of_o every_o person_n and_o this_o he_o mean_v of_o other_o then_o young_a child_n for_o â—er_o he_o speak_v of_o young_a child_n say_v especial_o concern_v young_a child_n â—_o 4._o crispen_n state_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 47._o 48._o witness_v that_o tertullian_n bring_v â—_o extreme_a unction_n after_o baptism_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n offer_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o â—er_o the_o like_a dream_n of_o the_o montanist_n now_o if_o tertullia_n judgement_n be_v â—and_n against_o infant_n baptism_n why_o not_o also_o for_o extreme_a unction_n the_o sign_n â—f_n the_o cross_n and_o the_o like_o his_o error_n see_v all_o these_o be_v fruit_n proceed_v â—om_n the_o same_o tree_n but_o thus_o this_o adversary_n care_v not_o who_o the_o witness_n be_v so_o he_o will_v speak_v in_o favour_n of_o his_o heresy_n let_v he_o be_v montanist_n papist_n or_o what_o othersoever_o but_o let_v it_o be_v further_o observe_v that_o about_o tertullia_n time_n and_o after_o some_o defer_v their_o baptism_n until_o they_o think_v they_o shall_v die_v and_o so_o be_v not_o baptize_v until_o they_o fall_v into_o some_o great_a sickness_n as_o theodosius_n &_o other_o and_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v tertullia_n error_n as_o if_o baptism_n be_v for_o wash_v away_o of_o sin_n past_a and_o not_o to_o come_v concern_v that_o which_o eusebius_n report_v of_o athanasius_n his_o bap_n 〈…〉_o of_o child_n in_o sport_n i_o have_v answer_v pag._n 109._o and_o set_v down_o reason_n â—_o prove_v that_o those_o child_n be_v not_o child_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o some_o oâ—_n the_o heathen_a which_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o church_n but_o be_v not_o receive_v into_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o same_o these_o be_v the_o two_o ancient_n that_o m._n smyth_n produce_v against_o we_o whereof_o neither_o of_o theâ—_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o baptise_v infant_n in_o those_o time_n now_o to_o these_o two_o i_o will_v oppose_v other_o two_o ancient_n among_o many_o other_o that_o do_v testify_v that_o infant_n in_o their_o time_n and_o before_o be_v baptize_v viz._n origin_n who_o say_v that_o the_o church_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n to_o infant_n lib._n 5._o ad_fw-la rom._n and_o augustine_n de_fw-fr bap._n contra_fw-la donatist_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 23._o who_o speak_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n say_v that_o which_o the_o whole_a church_n hold_v neither_o be_v ordain_v by_o counsel_n but_o always_o have_v be_v hold_v we_o be_v to_o believe_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o apostolical_a authority_n the_o next_o corruption_n that_o the_o separation_n be_v charge_v withal_o be_v to_o have_v a_o false_a ministry_n now_o the_o minister_n that_o we_o have_v be_v of_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n call_v thereunto_o by_o election_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n eph._n 4_o 9_o 11_o 12._o rom._n 12_o 7._o 8._o 1_o cor._n 12_o 28._o acts._n 13_o 1_o 2._o revel_v 1_o 20._o nehem_n 8_o 1_o 8._o mat._n 23_o 2._o mal_fw-fr 2_o 7._o act._n 14._o 23._o and_o practise_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o of_o this_o ministry_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n m._n smyth_n himself_o approve_v in_o his_o principle_n pag._n 18._o and_o in_o his_o question_n and_o answer_n pag._n 8._o print_v this_o last_o year_n 1609._o he_o describe_v the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n divide_v they_o first_o into_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n than_o the_o bishop_n into_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n or_o elder_n and_o withal_o describe_v the_o pastor_n to_o be_v a_o bishop_n over_o one_o particular_a church_n excel_v in_o the_o word_n of_o wisdom_n the_o teacher_n to_o be_v a_o bishop_n over_o one_o particular_a church_n excel_v in_o the_o word_n of_o knowledge_n the_o governor_n to_o be_v a_o bishop_n of_o one_o particular_a visible_a church_n excel_v in_o wise_a government_n thus_o have_v he_o write_v and_o yet_o we_o have_v no_o other_o ministry_n than_o he_o himself_o approve_v charge_v we_o to_o have_v a_o false_a ministry_n not_o care_v to_o cross_v himself_o so_o he_o may_v utter_v his_o bitterness_n against_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n the_o 3._o corruption_n this_o adversary_n charge_v we_o withal_o be_v false_a worship_n of_o read_v book_n this_o he_o say_v but_o prove_v it_o not_o i_o will_v brief_o set_v down_o our_o practice_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v take_v notice_n how_o unjust_o we_o be_v charge_v 1._o for_o prayer_n &_o give_v of_o thanks_o that_o be_v public_o perform_v by_o our_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n who_o invocate_v the_o name_n of_o god_n &_o praise_v he_o for_o his_o benefit_n â—s_v the_o spirit_n direct_v their_o heart_n to_o conceive_v and_o give_v utterance_n &_o without_o the_o use_n of_o any_o book_n during_o that_o action_n according_a to_o those_o â—ptures_n rom._n 8._o 26._o 27._o eph._n 6_o 18_o 19_o col._n 4_o 2._o act._n 6_o 4._o num._n 6_o 23._o â—4_n 27._o nehem._n 9_o 3_o 38._o ezra_n 9_o 5_o 15._o &_o 10._o 1._o joel._n 2_o 17._o 2._o they_o read_v the_o holy_a scripture_n translate_v into_o our_o own_o language_n â—me_n two_o or_o three_o chapter_n or_o more_o as_o time_n will_v serve_v show_v brief_o the_o â—eaning_n thereof_o which_o be_v warrant_v by_o these_o scripture_n neh._n 8_o 3_o 8._o â—eut_n 31_o 11._o act._n 15_o 21._o col._n 4_o 16._o 1_o thes_n 5._o 27._o 1_o tim._n 4_o 13._o 3._o the_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n take_v some_o scripture_n which_o they_o ordinary_o allow_v and_o after_o the_o read_n thereof_o do_v expound_v and_o apply_v the_o same_o by_o doctrine_n exhortation_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o further_a edification_n of_o the_o church_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n luk._n 4._o 16._o 21._o act._n 8._o 35._o &_o 13_o 15._o and_o 26._o 7._o â—_o tim._n 4_o 13._o 2_o tim._n 4_o 2._o and_o together_o with_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v after_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n with_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n mat._n 28_o 19_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 23._o etc._n etc._n act._n 20_o 7._o etc._n etc._n 4._o some_o of_o the_o psalm_n of_o david_n before_o and_o after_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o â—ord_n the_o same_o be_v first_o read_v and_o open_v by_o the_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n be_v â—ing_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n together_o to_o the_o praise_n of_o god_n and_o our_o own_o edification_n according_a to_o these_o scripture_n eph._n 5_o 19_o col._n 3_o 16._o mat_n 26_o
such_o imputation_n but_o yourself_o be_v become_v faulty_a in_o calumniate_a the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n viz_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n account_v it_o a_o antichristian_a error_n which_o i_o wish_v you_o well_o to_o consider_v of_o and_o not_o to_o add_v sin_n unto_o sin_n both_o in_o plead_v for_o error_n and_o in_o disgrace_v the_o truth_n and_o the_o professor_n thereof_o further_o you_o say_v it_o will_v not_o help_v i_o that_o these_o two_o truth_n have_v be_v condemn_v for_o heresy_n by_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n for_o if_o the_o apostle_n afford_v contrary_a to_o the_o succeed_a age_n that_o which_o be_v most_o ancient_a be_v the_o truth_n i_o grant_v if_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n age_n affoard_v contrary_a to_o the_o succeed_a age_n for_o the_o iustifieng_v of_o these_o your_o opinion_n that_o then_o you_o have_v good_a warrant_n of_o your_o side_n for_o call_v they_o truth_n but_o if_o the_o church_n which_o have_v condemn_v your_o position_n for_o error_n have_v agree_v herein_o with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n than_o i_o say_v the_o brand_n of_o heresy_n lie_v just_o upon_o they_o and_o whereas_o you_o allege_v that_o many_o truth_n whereunto_o we_o be_v come_v have_v be_v condemn_v for_o heretical_a in_o as_o many_o age_n as_o those_o truth_n which_o you_o defend_v i_o answer_v that_o not_o many_o truth_n if_o any_o which_o we_o hold_v to_o my_o remembrance_n have_v be_v condemn_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n for_o heresy_n and_o suppose_v those_o church_n do_v fail_v in_o some_o thing_n as_o every_o church_n be_v subject_a to_o err_v yet_o follow_v it_o not_o that_o therefore_o they_o err_v in_o condemn_v your_o opinion_n for_o heresy_n some_o thing_n i_o think_v you_o will_v grant_v be_v heresy_n which_o those_o ancient_a church_n succeed_v the_o apostle_n age_n do_v condemn_v as_o those_o of_o arius_n eutiche_n macedonius_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o then_o be_v not_o their_o judgement_n so_o light_o to_o be_v pass_v over_o that_o no_o reckon_n be_v to_o be_v make_v of_o what_o they_o have_v do_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n as_o for_o your_o error_n we_o reject_v they_o not_o only_o because_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v so_o censure_v they_o but_o find_v they_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o we_o condemn_v they_o 3._o whereas_o i_o do_v fear_v your_o broach_n of_o these_o and_o your_o former_a opinion_n will_v be_v offensive_a and_o to_o the_o hinder_v of_o the_o truth_n this_o you_o pass_v over_o in_o presume_v of_o the_o goodness_n of_o your_o cause_n say_v if_o any_o be_v hinder_v from_o the_o truth_n it_o will_v be_v their_o sin_n but_o if_o you_o fear_v you_o say_v that_o your_o antichristian_a church_n will_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n i_o say_v it_o be_v that_o which_o be_v appoint_v to_o perdition_n and_o to_o perdition_n let_v it_o go_v indeed_o if_o any_o be_v hinder_v from_o the_o truth_n by_o the_o publish_n of_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v their_o sin_n mat._n 11._o 6._o but_o if_o you_o which_o have_v stand_v for_o the_o truth_n shall_v now_o by_o publish_v of_o error_n cause_n the_o truth_n to_o be_v the_o more_o blaspheme_v &_o give_v offence_n to_o weak_a professor_n that_o be_v your_o sin_n and_o will_v be_v too_o heavy_a to_o be_v answer_v at_o the_o judgement_n day_n if_o you_o repent_v not_o and_o as_o for_o our_o church_n which_o you_o blasphemous_o call_v antichristian_a know_v you_o that_o i_o do_v not_o fear_v the_o fall_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o be_v the_o chief_a corner_n stone_n ephe._n 2_o 20._o which_o have_v a_o sure_a promise_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o mat._n 16._o 18._o and_o therefore_o your_o anathema_n can_v hurt_v we_o but_o shall_v rebound_v back_o again_o whence_o it_o come_v 4._o you_o say_v though_o i_o have_v profess_v to_o forsake_v my_o error_n upon_o their_o discovery_n and_o as_o i_o have_v practise_v for_o which_o i_o be_o reproach_v among_o your_o brethren_n yet_o i_o never_o profeess_v my_o readiness_n to_o be_v pervert_v from_o the_o truth_n which_o you_o call_v heresy_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o do_v undertake_v to_o write_v upon_o this_o ground_n you_o may_v well_o have_v spare_v your_o pain_n and_o save_v yourself_o from_o so_o grevous_a a_o sin_n by_o plead_v for_o antichristian_a corruption_n etc._n etc._n the_o ground_n of_o my_o persuasion_n concern_v your_o willingness_n to_o yield_v unto_o the_o truth_n do_v arise_v partly_o from_o that_o persuasion_n which_o i_o have_v of_o your_o sanctification_n and_o partly_o from_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o messenger_n before_o name_v â—ho_fw-mi do_v affirm_v unto_o i_o that_o if_o i_o can_v manifest_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n â—hat_n it_o be_v error_n which_o you_o hold_v you_o will_v acknowledge_v it_o and_o still_o â—ou_fw-mi say_v if_o you_o be_v in_o error_n it_o be_v 71._o be_v passage_n page_v 71._o ignorant_o and_o therefore_o desirous_a of_o â—our_n good_a i_o do_v undertake_v according_a to_o my_o small_a ability_n to_o manifest_a â—he_n truth_n unto_o you_o by_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o can_v at_o that_o present_a gather_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o which_o see_v you_o make_v so_o small_a account_n of_o and_o answer_v i_o that_o i_o may_v have_v spare_v my_o pain_n and_o save_v myself_o from_o sin_n i_o be_o sorry_a in_o that_o respect_n that_o i_o do_v write_v yet_o in_o regard_n of_o witness_v the_o â—ruth_n and_o perform_v a_o duty_n towards_o a_o brother_n fall_v into_o error_n i_o repent_v â—e_v not_o neither_o yet_o of_o commit_v any_o grevous_a sin_n thereby_o as_o you_o charge_v i_o withal_o see_v i_o plead_v for_o that_o which_o be_v of_o christ_n and_o not_o for_o antichristian_a corruption_n and_o as_o for_o your_o error_n so_o often_o grace_v by_o you_o with_o the_o title_n of_o truth_n which_o you_o say_v you_o never_o profess_v to_o be_v pervert_v from_o i_o mervayle_v not_o great_o thereat_o for_o heresy_n be_v a_o work_n of_o the_o flesh_n gal._n 5._o 20._o that_o be_v easy_o and_o quick_o embrace_v but_o not_o so_o leave_v and_o herein_o differ_v from_o the_o truth_n to_o the_o receive_n whereof_o we_o be_v hardly_o draw_v as_o both_o you_o and_o i_o have_v experience_n but_o error_n drinck_v as_o a_o pleasant_a potion_n rev._n 18._o 3._o without_o resistance_n and_o bewitch_v many_o that_o they_o shall_v not_o obey_v the_o truth_n describe_v and_o plain_o manifest_v in_o their_o sight_n gal._n 3._o 1._o the_o poison_n whereof_o i_o be_o sorry_a have_v so_o infect_v your_o soul_n that_o you_o seem_v to_o be_v change_v into_o the_o nature_n thereof_o and_o to_o be_v as_o confident_a therein_o as_o in_o any_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o though_o you_o account_v my_o pray_v to_o be_v for_o a_o overthrow_n of_o the_o lord_n truth_n which_o be_v in_o deed_n for_o the_o conversion_n of_o you_o 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can_v any_o say_v that_o none_o of_o esau_n his_o posterty_n be_v in_o god_n secret_a election_n &_o if_o this_o scripture_n will_v not_o warrant_v any_o so_o to_o judge_n than_o neither_o will_v it_o warrant_v rebecca_n so_o to_o apply_v it_o to_o her_o son_n be_v so_o general_o speak_v the_o personal_a rejection_n either_o of_o ishmael_n or_o esau_n be_v not_o revel_v until_o by_o their_o evil_a work_n they_o manife_v themselves_o and_o therefore_o these_o child_n be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n as_o esau_n be_v in_o jacobs_n house_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v holy_a to_o be_v circumcise_v and_o hold_v of_o the_o covenant_n until_o there_o wickedness_n throw_v they_o out_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v not_o under_o the_o possession_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o under_o the_o offer_n of_o it_o i_o use_v these_o reason_n first_o the_o condition_n or_o obedience_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o the_o condition_n or_o obedience_n of_o the_o matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n fayth_n and_o 〈…〉_o tance_n be_v the_o condition_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o matter_n and_o member_n of_o the_o new_a testa_n 〈…〉_o mar._n 1._o 15._o ergo_fw-la faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v not_o the_o condition_n or_o obedience_n of_o 〈◊〉_d matter_n or_o member_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n your_o proposition_n be_v not_o true_a you_o exclude_v faith_n and_o repentance_n from_o â—he_n member_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o if_o by_o their_o covenant_n they_o be_v not_o â—ound_v to_o believe_v and_o obey_v his_o commandment_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o these_o scripture_n gen._n 17_o 1._o 6._o rom._n 4._o 3._o 13._o heb._n 11._o 17._o jam._n 2._o 21._o 23._o deu._n 19_o 9-20_a &_o 10._o 12._o 13._o 20._o that_o repentance_n be_v require_v of_o the_o jew_n not_o only_o the_o prophet_n often_o exhort_v of_o they_o to_o repentance_n do_v witness_n as_o before_o be_v observe_v but_o also_o in_o that_o their_o repètance_n 17._o repètance_n jud._n 2._o â—_o 1_o san_n 7._o 3â—_n ezr._n ca._n 1â—_n neh._n cap._n â—_o deut._n 9_o 10._o esa_n 1â—_n 16._o 17._o turn_v away_o god_n anger_n from_o they_o and_o the_o conditional_a 13_o conditional_a esa_n 1._o 1â—_n jer._n 3._o 22._o hos_fw-la 6._o 1._o â—_o 3._o &_o 14_o â—_o joel._n 2._o 13_o promise_n of_o pardon_n if_o they_o do_v repent_v also_o god_n threaten_v of_o judgement_n against_o they_o if_o they_o repent_v not_o and_o that_o faith_n be_v also_o require_v of_o they_o see_v all_o these_o scripture_n psal_n â—8_o 5._o 6._o 7._o 22._o 2_o chro._n 20._o 20._o esa_n 53._o 1._o and_o 7._o 9_o hab._n 2._o 4._o act._n 26._o 6._o 7._o heb._n 11._o 13._o 1_o cor._n 10._o 3._o 4._o and_o thus_o you_o see_v that_o that_o condition_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o you_o say_v be_v faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v also_o the_o condition_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o old_a test_n the_o reason_n of_o the_o mayor_n be_v evident_a etc._n etc._n see_v that_o as_o the_o ministry_n worship_n &_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v of_o another_o nature_n than_o the_o ministry_n worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v so_o the_o condition_n viz._n the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v of_o a_o other_o nature_n than_o the_o constitution_n that_o be_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n etc._n etc._n heb._n 7._o 16._o gal_n 5._o 3._o i_o answer_v first_o that_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o true_a that_o the_o ministry_n &_o worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a test_n be_v of_o another_o nature_n from_o that_o of_o the_o gospel_n for_o although_o in_o their_o worship_n and_o ministry_n be_v many_o thing_n typical_a &_o ceremonial_a yet_o withal_a god_n require_v of_o they_o spiritual_a worship_n &_o obedience_n without_o which_o their_o 5_o their_o esa_n 1._o 12._o 15._o gâ—_n 4._o 5_o ceremonial_a be_v abominable_a also_o if_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n be_v of_o a_o spiritual_a nature_n than_o be_v their_o ministry_n and_o worship_n more_o than_o carnal_a the_o prophet_n 1â—_n prophet_n esa_n 56._o 1â—_n complain_v of_o neglect_n of_o teach_v in_o the_o priest_n which_o argue_v that_o they_o be_v bind_v by_o their_o calling_n to_o instruct_v the_o people_n malachy_n say_v 7._o say_v mal._n 2._o â—_o 6._o 7._o the_o priest_n lip_n shall_v preserve_v knowledge_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v seek_v the_o law_n at_o his_o mouth_n for_o he_o be_v the_o messenger_n of_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n and_o this_o be_v by_o office_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v my_o covenant_n be_v with_o levi_n of_o life_n and_o peace_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n of_o truth_n be_v in_o his_o mouth_n and_o in_o jeremy_n the_o lord_n complain_v of_o the_o priest_n say_v they_o that_o shall_v minister_v the_o law_n â—ow_o i_o not_o promise_v unto_o the_o people_n if_o they_o repent_v that_o he_o will_v give_v they_o “_o pastor_n according_a to_o his_o own_o hart_n which_o shall_v feed_v they_o with_o â—_o â—â—r_fw-fr 3._o 15._o â—eh_fw-it 8._o â—_o act._n 13._o â—â—_o act._n 15._o â—_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n and_o in_o nehemiah_n it_o be_v write_v that_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n †_o read_v in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n and_o give_v the_o sense_n and_o cause_v the_o people_n to_o understand_v the_o read_n and_o this_o by_o their_o office_n lev._n 10._o 11._o the_o jew_n have_v the_o *_o lecture_n of_o the_o law_n and_o prophet_n in_o their_o synagogue_n and_o “_o moses_n have_v they_o of_o old_a time_n in_o every_o city_n that_o do_v preach_v he_o thus_o we_o see_v that_o the_o open_n of_o the_o law_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o scripture_n 17._o lev._n 9_o 22_o â—_o num._n â—_o 23._o 27._o â—_o 9_o 4_o 13_o â—_o &_o 10._o 1._o â—â—h_o 8._o 6._o â—l_n 1._o 14._o â—_o 2._o 16._o 17._o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n and_o of_o their_o public_a worship_n on_o the_o sabbath_n also_o the_o priest_n †_o give_v thanks_o unto_o god_n for_o the_o people_n bless_v they_o and_o pray_v the_o temple_n be_v call_v the_o house_n of_o prayer_n math._n 21._o 13._o also_o they_o have_v certain_a hour_n of_o meeting_n at_o the_o temple_n which_o be_v call_v hour_n of_o prayer_n act._n 3._o 1._o and_o they_o be_v command_v spiritual_a sacrifice_n as_o ps_n 4._o 5._o &_o 50._o 14._o 15._o 23._o as_o former_o be_v observe_v concern_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o be_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n elder_n i_o know_v no_o great_a difference_n in_o nature_n of_o thâ—t_a church_n and_o of_o this_o under_o the_o gospel_n the_o former_a be_v govern_v ecclesiastical_o by_o the_o priest_n &_o elder_n mat._n 26._o 47._o luk._n 22._o 66_o act._n 23._o 14._o and_o 6._o 12._o and_o 13._o 15._o &_o 18._o 8._o 2_o chro._n 19_o 8._o and_o so_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v to_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o 27._o mat._n 18._o â—5_n 16._o 17._o â—_o cor._n 5._o 3._o 5_o â—_o exo._n 19_o 6._o â—_o exod_a 22._o â—1_n lev._n 14_o â—_o &_o 11._o 44_o use_v 20._o 7._o â—_o pet._n 1._o 16._o rom._n 11._o 16_o â—_o deu._n 4._o 20_o &_o 5._o 2._o psa_fw-la â—0_n 3._o 4._o deu._n 14._o 2._o rom._n 11._o â—19_a 23._o â—_o 27._o minister_n and_o elder_n act._n 20._o 28._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o 1_o thes_n 5._o 12._o hebr._n 13_o 8._o the_o censure_n ecclesiastical_a under_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v admonition_n &_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n
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adjoine_v some_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n not_o to_o prove_v that_o child_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v &_o be_v by_o the_o scripture_n already_o prove_v but_o to_o show_v the_o practice_n hereof_o in_o ancient_a church_n augustine_n as_o i_o find_v allege_v write_v to_o jerome_n epist_n 28._o say_v cyprian_n not_o make_v any_o new_a decree_n but_o firm_o observe_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n judge_v with_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n that_o as_o soon_o as_o one_o be_v bear_v he_o may_v lawful_o be_v baptize_v see_v cyprian_n epist_n to_o fidus._n and_o write_v against_o the_o donatist_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 23._o &_o 24._o say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o derive_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n neither_o of_o counsel_n but_o from_o the_o tradition_n or_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n ciril_n upon_o lev._n cha_n 8._o approve_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o condemn_v the_o iteration_n of_o baptism_n origine_fw-la upon_o the_o rom._n say_v that_o the_o church_n receive_v baptism_n of_o infant_n from_o the_o apostle_n nazianzenus_n in_o orat._n in_o s._n lavacrum_fw-la 3._o say_v that_o baptism_n agree_v to_o every_o age_n to_o every_o condition_n of_o life_n to_o all_o man_n if_o thou_o have_v a_o infant_n it_o be_v sanctify_v from_o his_o infancy_n yea_o from_o the_o finger_n end_v it_o be_v consecrate_v after_o he_o say_v some_o man_n will_v say_v what_o say_v thou_o of_o infant_n which_o neither_o know_v what_o grace_n be_v nor_o pain_n what_o shall_v we_o baptise_v those_o &_o he_o answer_v yea_o very_o amb._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr abraham_n cha_n 11._o speak_v of_o baptism_n say_v neither_o old_a man_n nor_o proselyte_n nor_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v except_v because_o every_o age_n be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n and_o therefore_o stand_v need_n of_o the_o sacrament_n these_o &_o many_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v bear_v witness_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n mr._n smyth_n and_o for_o conclusion_n you_o produce_v the_o father_n i_o say_v that_o the_o produce_v of_o father_n who_o all_o of_o they_o hold_v plenty_n of_o antichristian_a heresy_n shall_v avail_v you_o nothing_o in_o your_o cause_n and_o you_o that_o deny_v the_o testimony_n of_o father_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n how_o can_v you_o with_o any_o colour_n produce_v father_n against_o we_o in_o case_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n r._n clifton_n i_o plead_v not_o for_o the_o error_n of_o the_o father_n but_o for_o the_o truth_n which_o they_o hold_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o where_o you_o charge_v they_o to_o hold_v plenty_n of_o antichristian_a heresy_n you_o tax_v they_o very_o deep_o and_o you_o that_o so_o censure_v other_o have_v need_n to_o judge_v yourself_o otherwise_o the_o lord_n will_v find_v out_o a_o sentence_n against_o you_o also_o i_o desire_v you_o to_o show_v where_o i_o produce_v the_o 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mat._n 3._o 11_o man_n it_o be_v administer_v but_o if_o a_o infant_n etc._n etc._n be_v wash_v with_o water_n into_o the_o trinity_n i_o say_v there_o be_v neither_o an._n an._n true_a matter_n nor_o form_n and_o so_o all_o infant_n baptize_v by_o antichrist_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o renounce_v it_o and_o to_o receive_v christ_n mark_n of_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n and_o when_o they_o shall_v manifest_v a_o new_a creature_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o be_v baptize_v into_o the_o trinity_n this_o be_v not_o anabaptistry_n but_o the_o true_a apostolic_a baptism_n and_o so_o christ_n john_n and_o christ_n apostle_n be_v anabaptist_n with_o you_o sir_n etc._n etc._n for_o they_o baptize_v man_n that_o be_v wash_v before_o a_o thousand_o time_n with_o the_o jew_n baptism_n heb._n 9_o 10_o etc._n etc._n if_o it_o be_v blasphemy_n to_o say_v christ_n john_n or_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n be_v anabaptist_n though_o they_o be_v oftentimes_o some_o of_o they_o baptize_v into_o the_o messiah_n in_o type_n etc._n etc._n so_o shall_v it_o be_v blasphemy_n in_o they_o that_o call_v the_o true_a christianes_n anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n sir_n if_o you_o mind_v well_o your_o comparison_n it_o hold_v not_o for_o those_o wash_n â—p_n â—p_n under_o the_o law_n be_v proper_a ordinance_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n declare_v their_o repentance_n †_o and_o cleanse_n from_o their_o daily_a sin_n and_o pollution_n by_o faith_n 10_o joh._n 13_o 10_o in_o christ_n then_o to_o come_v but_o baptism_n whereof_o we_o speak_v be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o that_o but_o *_o one_o as_o their_o circumcision_n likewise_o be_v and_o 5_o ephe._n 4._o 5_o therefore_o be_v once_o administer_v though_o in_o some_o corruption_n be_v anabaptism_n to_o be_v iterate_v and_o it_o be_v such_o a_o wash_n as_o preach_v 〈◊〉_d we_o the_o purge_n of_o our_o sin_n by_o christ_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d often_o wash_n under_o the_o law_n that_o can_v make_v man_n anabaptist_n for_o 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mat._n 28._o 19_o be_v from_o heaven_n mat._n 21._o 25._o and_o not_o from_o antichrist_n ergo_fw-la we_o ought_v not_o to_o cast_v it_o away_o but_o those_o tradition_n wherewith_o antichrist_n have_v pollute_v it_o as_o example_n k._n josias_n and_o before_o he_o k._n ezechias_n when_o both_o the_o land_n and_o temple_n be_v pollute_v 〈…〉_o ng_z 21_o 7._o &_o 23._o 4._o do_v not_o pull_v down_o the_o temple_n but_o appoint_v the_o priest_n to_o cleanse_v it_o who_o do_v so_o and_o bring_v out_o all_o the_o uncleanness_n that_o they_o have_v find_v in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 2_o chron_n 29._o 16._o 18._o and_o 34._o 8._o for_o in_o reformation_n of_o thing_n difference_n must_v be_v put_v between_o those_o thing_n whereof_o god_n be_v the_o author_n and_o such_o as_o be_v devise_v by_o man_n the_o former_a be_v to_o be_v purge_v from_o all_o profanation_n &_o the_o thing_n still_o to_o be_v retain_v the_o other_o quite_o to_o be_v abolish_v this_o rule_n in_o all_o reformation_n 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you_o do_v renounce_v that_o which_o be_v true_a therein_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n viz._n to_o wash_v with_o water_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o in_o your_o new_a baptise_v of_o yourselves_o you_o repeat_v it_o again_o which_o you_o ought_v not_o if_o it_o be_v of_o god_n and_o so_o indeed_o you_o retain_v not_o any_o truth_n in_o it_o at_o all_o 3._o as_o for_o your_o comparison_n of_o a_o false_a church_n or_o ministry_n with_o baptism_n it_o be_v not_o equal_a for_o if_o you_o understand_v by_o false_a church_n and_o ministry_n that_o which_o be_v devise_v by_o man_n only_o then_o the_o constitution_n thereof_o be_v not_o of_o god_n ordinance_n as_o in_o jereboam_n priest_n and_o as_o in_o provincial_a or_o diocesan_n church_n wherein_o not_o one_o beam_n rafter_n or_o stone_n be_v appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o can_v not_o be_v retain_v with_o the_o purge_n away_o of_o the_o 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the_o 19_o the_o mat._n 2d_o 19_o form_n of_o baptism_n and_o yourself_o a_o little_a before_o have_v so_o â—4_n so_o carat_n pag._n â—4_n write_v â—ow_o if_o it_o be_v of_o the_o form_n which_o give_v the_o be_v of_o the_o thing_n how_o be_v it_o a_o accidet_fw-la for_o you_o say_v necessary_o for_o have_v true_a baptism_n we_o must_v repeat_v wash_v into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v but_o accident_n and_o further_o you_o say_v a_o turk_n so_o wash_v be_v not_o baptize_v how_o prove_v you_o this_o repeat_n of_o wash_n into_o the_o name_n of_o the_o trinity_n &_o c._n and_o how_o do_v the_o baptise_v of_o a_o turk_n prove_v this_o form_n of_o wash_v to_o be_v a_o accident_n to_o the_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n see_v
member_n of_o any_o church_n shall_v baptise_v &_o make_v a_o church_n &_o that_o without_o commandment_n from_o god_n now_o you_o say_v a_o church_n can_v not_o be_v erect_v without_o baptism_n because_o baptism_n be_v the_o visible_a form_n thereof_o consider_v you_o that_o be_v so_o barren_a of_o proof_n for_o the_o administer_a of_o baptise_v to_o yourself_o that_o you_o can_v not_o show_v one_o good_a reason_n to_o warrant_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a if_o by_o condemn_v &_o reject_v of_o that_o baptism_n which_o you_o receive_v in_o antichristianisme_n you_o overthrow_v not_o your_o new_a church_n for_o if_o a_o church_n can_v not_o be_v without_o baptism_n and_o you_o not_o able_a to_o prove_v your_o new_a baptism_n from_o the_o scripture_n which_o have_v reject_v the_o old_a then_o be_v your_o assembly_n a_o idol_n and_o so_o while_o you_o condemn_v other_o church_n unjust_o for_o false_a you_o prove_v more_o false_a than_o any_o but_o concern_v baptism_n which_o you_o call_v 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