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A43051 The lying prophet discovered and reproved in an answer to several particulars in a book called The Quakers downfal, said to be written by Lawrence Claxton ... : with several of his damnable doctrines ... : also twelve particulars which he and his companion Lodowick Muggleton uttered ... / given forth ... by a Friend of truth, John Harwood. Harwood, John.; Muggleton, Lodowick, 1609-1698. 1659 (1659) Wing H1103A; ESTC R40951 15,593 23

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all their blindness ever held forth such a doctrine here the Idolaters may Judge thee and thy cursed opinion yet the Spirit hath a body but according to thy own confession thou art none of the Members of it but such as are baptized with it knows his body nature vertue and life who was before man was formed Learn what that means the bodies of the Saints are the Temple of the living God 2 Cor. 6.16 and prove thy God which thou sayes is a man above the stars no where else in no Creature nor in this world by plain Scripture or confess thy gross ignorance and darkness for I utterly deny thy meanings and corrupt imaginations and if thy God be so far from thee thou hast a great way to go for Counsel but Moses said the Word was nigh in the hearts of Israels Children and likewise Paul to the Romans and the Word was God saith John so that thy doctrine and the Saints that gave forth the Scripture accord not which clearly evidenceth a contrary spirit in thee if thou hadst not confessed there were nought of God in thee so that thy commission the voice of words which thou pretendest is also judged and denied being seen by the light of devine glory in us to be deceit and hypocrisie and the delusion of Satan which thou professest who hast uttered such abhominable filthy blasphemies and railing speeches against the Lord and his onely people which will hasten thy downfal and destruction but our foundation stands sure not to be shaken or moved mark that and the sentence of eternal Condemnation which thou sayes five of us came under we stand clear from and under it thou thy self and thy Companion art and the great darkness you are in who deny and oppose the light of Jesus Christ within us in the reprobate state who know not the light Christ Jesus within you whom we confess in us as the Saints did the hope of our eternal glory and witness him against you the world and all men upon the earth who stand up against him who is our life rock refuge and the horn of our Salvation and the Condemnation of all that deny and oppose his light within L. C. Thou sayes in the 20 and 21 page Both Angel and man hath forms sutable to their natures and that it was their natures that gave them their form and after thou sayest towards the latter end of the 21 p. God created man in his own Image and likewise sayes God hath the same form that man hath and yet one is spiritual and the other natural c. Answ Mark The heap of confusion he has compacted by his confused sensual wisdom which he calls the Seed of Faith if God created man Gen. 2.7 John 1. then his nature gave him not his form but God and if by the word speaking came forth both Angel and man as thou sayes then their nature gave them not their form but God that spoke the word and if God hath the same form as man hath the not another as thou falsly affirment Is there no difference betwixt a spiritual and a natural form Herein thou hast contradicted thy self that all who have a true understanding may see thy darkness and confusion L. C. Thou also sayes When thou believest him onely an infinite Eternal spirit then thy faith is wavering like unto the God for a spirit without a body cannot be known c. p. 22. Answ The Faith God hath given me by which I see and know him to be an Eternal Spirit a devine substance is not wavering but sound and stedfast neither is God the infinite Eternal spirit wavering as thou falsly affirmeth but stands and remains in his own being nature and life for ever and the Saints knew God to be a Spirit as also Jesus Christ hath declared and confessed him John 4. and unto their Testimony I do bear witness against thy lyes and confusion and God who causeth light to shine forth of darkness hath shined in our hearts to give us the knowledge of his glory in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 so that we know God to be a Spirit of infinite power by his light in us as the Saints did that gave forth the Scriptures which knowledge thou and all the world wants who contemns and opposeth his light within And is not this the blaspemy against the holy Spirit to deny God to be a Spirit hast not thou here brought thy self under Eternal Condemnation is not this the unpardonable sin But we do not deny that God was in Christ and that in his body the fulness of the Godhead dwells Joh. 16.23 Christ is the same for ever now in his Saints and God in him the Father and Son we do not deny but confess to be one and he that hath the Son hath the life the Father also but thou hast excluded him from thee who sayes there is nought of God in thee and Christ hath but one Body one Church one Temple and yet there are many Members but thy corrupt sensual wisdom cannot see into this divine Mystery though the Scripture in plain words declare it So that for ever thou may stop thy mouth for boasting of thy knowledge in the Scriptures L. C. Who sayes Because we witness Christ manifest in us that he is but in one of us unless we can make it appear that Christ hath so many bodies as there is Quakers c. p. 25. Answ We do say and testifie in the fear of the Lord with a true and perfect understanding notwithstanding thy reviling that the true light Christ the spiritual body or Divine substance is manifest in us and also do bear witness of his descending and ascending for above all heavens and it was the same which ascended Colos 1. 2 Cor. 13.5 Eph. 4.10 1 Cor. 15.50 that descended according to the Scripture and do thou prove the descending of a body of flesh blood and bones flesh and blood enters not into the Kingdom of heaven learn what this meaneth John 1 14. the word was made flesh and the flesh suffered without the gate at Jerusalem but the life God died not which was in the body of flesh but entered into glory into the same glory it was in before the world was made Eph. 4.10 whose glory and presence filleth all things and is amnifest in us his beauty his presence and power is seen known and rightly understood and his spiritual body his pure Divine presence is but one yet in thousands it is manifest glory to his eternal name Jehovah for ever but this is beyond the reach of thy devilish sensual wisdom this secret is hid from the Magicians of Egypt the worlds wise men who want the pure wisdom and reason And this I affirm 1 Cor. 1.21 he hath no true ground for his faith so out of the true faith but what hast thou to do to boast of thy faith or speak of it who denies
it for the Saints in Light that gave forth the Scriptures denied not as he doth but witnessed as we do Chrict Jesus in them the hope of glory as in the first Chapter of the Colossians verse 27 as also in the second of the Corinthians 13.5 Christ in you except you be Reprobates and likewise in Galathians 2.20 saith Paul I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me c. and many other Scriptures might be brought to prove the true Light Christ to be in his people which this wicked deceiver denies but the wise in heart may see by this that the life of the Scripture judges his doctrine to be contrary to the doctrine of the Apostles and his faith to be contrary to the faith of Gods elect so out of the doctrine and faith of Gods Elect in the state of Reprobacy not to be owned nor credited but to be denied and sharply reproved by all that fear the Lord. Now I know none of Gods people that love him and fear him will believe the Lies slanders and false aspersions which this unreasonable man in his book hath cast upon us he calls Quakers but will discern it to be written from an envious wicked heart and spirit because his will hath been crossed by us and will judge his lying malicious spirit and not entertain any hard thoughts against us through his Lies and false Accusations but the ignorant and such as have an enmity against the truth and the witnesses of it who are given up to believe lies may be ready to believe his blasphemous Lying Aspersions which he hath cast upon God and his people but however we are clear in the sight of the Lord and his people and the truth is over him and all the world and whosoever stand up to oppose it or in any manner appears against it must bow before it and come under it and the witnesses of it for all Nations must bow before the power of Truth manifest in Gods Elect The Royall seed called Quakers I. H. The Lying Prophet Discovered and Reproved Lawrence Claxton BOasteth and saith If I had not the spirit of Inspiration or Revelation in my own Soul not any part or portion of the Scripture would belong unto me pag. 1. Ans It is the Spirit of God with which the Saints were Inspired which unto them revealed the Mysteries and secrets of God who as they were moved spoke and writ forth the Scriptures which thou dost not rightly understand who wants the same Spirit and Life for thy lying and boasting manifesteth thy spirit to be none of the true Spirit with which the Saints were and are Inspired so ignorant of the Mystery and Life of them but that part or portion of Scripture belongs unto thee which is against blasphemers lyars boasters and ungodly deceivers and to be applied to thy present condition but the blessings and promises which appertaineth to the Elect Seed thou hast nothing to do with And what hast thou to do to speak of the Spirit of Inspiration or Revelation in thy Soul who said thou hast nought of God in thee L. C. Also boasteth of the Spirit To be more fully manifested in him then it was in the Saints that gave forth the Scriptures pag. 1. Answ The lying spirit which was cast out of the Saints by the power of the Spirit of truth in a large manner is manifest in thee as thy fruits makes it appear and thou may be ashamed to boast thus of thy spirit who said in the hearing of séveral honest people Thou had nought of God in thee it is the lying imagination of thy corrupt fleshly wisdom which thou calls the Inspiration of the Spirit by which thou art deceived and deluded and seeks to deceive and delude others but the Elect are out of thy reach and fathomes thee L. C. Saith Moses the Prophets and Apostles never rightly understood neither was required of them to know Christ in their Commission any other but God the Father P. 4. Answ That is false Moses knew a Prophet should arise like unto him which the people should hear which was Christ the Son of God the Prophet knew a Virgin should conceive and bear a Son and call his Name Emanuel and said Unto us a Son is given c. and the Apostles knew the Father Word and Spirit to be one and there was them that were witnesses of his birth Acts 3.15 sufferings and Resurrection which thou knows nothing of but by tradition the Apostles were eye-witnesses of him who was born of the Virgin and knew him in the flesh a single person and after his death and Resurrection were to know him no more 2 Cor. 5. Let him that readeth understand for here hast thou manifested thy lyes and confusion thou hast lyed of Moses the Prophets and Apostles and of the Scriptures their writings as the Scripture will make plainly appear read Deut. 18.18 Isa 9.6 Isa 7.14 L. C. Affirmeth That the wisdom of Solomon was but natural P. 5. and in the 6. p. saith Solomons writings were no Scripture nor the writings of Job p. 7. Answ The wisdom God gave unto Solomon was pure and spiritual it is contrary to the disposition and nature of God to give gifts unto his people 1 Kings 3.12 contrary to himself that is natural in thee which wrongs the Lord and calls Solomons wisdom Gods gift natural 1 Kings 3.28 it is manifest thou sees not with the eye of Faith as thou conceives but art deceived by the prince of darkness the old serpent who goes about through thy policy to turn the truth into a lye but the serpent with all his subtilty cannot prove the writings of Solomon to be no Scripture nor perswade such as fear the Lord to any such thing none but such as are given up to believe lyes will credit thee for his writings are truth and the other Scripture is no more And as for the writings of Righteous Job whom thou confessest Righteous who saw the Lord of Glory Job 42.5 they are also to be believed and not scrupled to be truth given forth from the Spirit of truth and to be as true as the writings of the Prophets and Apostles and thou art Judged out of the truth in the lye by the Righteous Spirit which was manifest in Job who Judges with thy lying spirit all the translaters and composers of the Scriptures who put Job Solomons writings amongst the Prophets and Apostles L. C. Likewise affirmeth That the Scriptures were written for our learning to know God c. p. 11. Answ The Jews and Pharisees which Christ reproved had the Scriptures the writings of Moses and the Prophets yet knew not Christ nor God the Father and thou and many other have the Scriptures and yet wants the knowledge of God none knows God the Father but such as the light Christ reveals him unto here thou contradicts the Doctrine of Christ and seeking with the unbelieving Jews for the knowledge