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A01730 A plaine declaration that our Brownists be full Donatists by comparing them together from point to point out of the writings of Augustine. Also a replie to Master Greenwood touching read prayer, wherein his grosse ignorance is detected, which labouring to purge himselfe from former absurdities, doth plunge himselfe deeper into the mire. By George Gyffard minister of Gods word in Maldon. Gifford, George, d. 1620. 1590 (1590) STC 11862; ESTC S118453 101,969 166

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the_o priest_n answer_v no._n then_o if_o a_o man_n that_o be_v unclean_a touch_n any_o of_o those_o thing_n shall_v it_o not_o be_v unclean_a the_o priest_n answer_n it_o shall_v be_v unclean_a so_o be_v this_o people_n and_o so_o be_v this_o nation_n before_o i_o say_v the_o lord_n and_o so_o be_v the_o whole_a work_n of_o their_o hand_n yea_o that_o which_o they_o have_v offer_v there_o have_v be_v unclean_a stay_v now_o and_o see_v whether_o the_o very_a same_o scripture_n be_v not_o in_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o common_a sort_n of_o the_o brownist_n and_o whether_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o chief_a brownist_n be_v not_o every_o where_o spatred_n with_o the_o quotation_n of_o they_o and_o to_o prove_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o the_o donatist_n hold_v and_o maintain_v by_o they_o namely_o that_o such_o as_o communicate_v with_o open_a sinner_n be_v pollute_v by_o their_o sin_n and_o therefore_o they_o separate_v themselves_o but_o that_o this_o agreement_n between_o they_o may_v 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