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A81720 A boundary to the Holy Mount, or a barre against free admission to the Lords Supper. In answer to an humble vindication of free admission to the Lords Supper. Published by Mr. Humphrey minister of Froome in Somersetshire. Which humble vindication, though it profess much of piety and conscience, yet upon due triall and examination, is found worthy of suspension, if not of a greater censure. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap London. R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669. 1653 (1653) Wing D2129; Thomason E1314_2; ESTC R209198 85,461 218

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their_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o come_v lest_o after_o the_o take_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o devil_n enter_v into_o they_o as_o he_o do_v into_o judas_n now_o be_v it_o a_o duty_n for_o all_o to_o come_v than_o be_v it_o a_o sin_n to_o forbid_v any_o to_o come_v object_n if_o yet_o he_o will_v object_v this_o practice_n of_o we_o if_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o nature_n and_o essence_n yet_o it_o be_v against_o the_o wellbeing_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n when_o the_o member_n thereof_o or_o any_o of_o they_o be_v deny_v their_o just_a privilege_n answ_n 1._o true_o if_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o privilege_n due_a to_o all_o member_n but_o this_o be_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v prove_v on_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o part_n and_o in_o the_o proof_n whereof_o though_o his_o great_a diana_n he_o fall_v so_o exceed_o short_a 2._o the_o well_o be_v of_o a_o church_n consist_v much_o in_o its_o government_n and_o discipline_n of_o which_o not_o one_o word_n from_o mr._n h._n in_o his_o note_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n good_a government_n lie_v in_o the_o geometrical_a not_o arithmetical_a administration_n of_o privilege_n and_o censure_n the_o low_a of_o which_o last_n admonition_n and_o high_a excommunication_n we_o have_v clear_a enough_o in_o the_o scripture_n but_o because_o suspension_n and_o the_o like_a be_v not_o in_o term_n mention_v in_o scripture_n therefore_o mr._n h._n will_v have_v it_o whole_o expunge_v as_o if_o because_o a_o man_n will_v not_o be_v gain_v by_o word_n there_o be_v no_o other_o way_n but_o present_o to_o knock_v he_o on_o the_o head_n certain_o he_o that_o put_v the_o extreme_n can_v deny_v the_o middle_n from_o one_o extreme_a to_o another_o and_o as_o he_o who_o have_v power_n of_o life_n and_o death_n have_v much_o more_o power_n to_o mulct_n imprison_v etc._n etc._n so_o the_o church_n who_o have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v have_v much_o more_o power_n to_o suspend_v as_o be_v a_o inferior_a censure_n and_o but_o the_o way_n to_o that_o high_a will_n mr._n h._n deny_v that_o the_o well-being_n of_o a_o church_n lie_v much_o in_o its_o purity_n and_o this_o in_o the_o knowledge_n and_o conversation_n of_o the_o member_n and_o whether_o our_o way_n or_o he_o conduce_v more_o to_o this_o let_v all_o the_o world_n judge_n let_v mr._n h._n tell_v i_o ingenuous_o whether_o he_o will_v have_v all_o gross_o ignorant_a person_n excommunicate_v i_o hope_v he_o be_v more_o charitable_a and_o think_v they_o rather_o need_v instruction_n and_o be_v not_o this_o previous_a trial_n before_o the_o eldership_n use_v of_o purpose_n that_o ignorant_a person_n may_v be_v put_v upon_o enquiry_n after_o knowledge_n as_o ever_o they_o value_v the_o privilege_n of_o sacramental_a communion_n nor_o be_v the_o proper_a end_n of_o it_o exclusion_n from_o but_o preparation_n of_o all_o sort_n for_o the_o sacrament_n for_o which_o in_o few_o month_n by_o god_n grace_n we_o dare_v undertake_v to_o fit_v the_o mean_a if_o they_o will_v be_v rule_v by_o we_o contra_fw-la if_o mr._n h._n his_o free_a admission_n obtain_v universal_o without_o check_n see_v if_o in_o a_o few_o year_n a_o chaos_n of_o darkness_n and_o ignorance_n do_v not_o overspread_v the_o face_n of_o this_o glorious_a church_n but_o i_o see_v i_o must_v contract_v for_o his_o confirmation_n of_o this_o argument_n from_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o field_n etc._n etc._n which_o he_o style_v a_o invincible_a support_n pag._n 17._o alas_o poor_a man_n how_o feeble_a must_v he_o needs_o be_v when_o his_o best_a strength_n be_v but_o weakness_n if_o the_o tare_n and_o wheat_n must_v be_v separate_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n than_o i_o pray_v what_o will_v become_v of_o excommunication_n it_o be_v apparent_a by_o the_o parable_n 1._o that_o the_o tare_n be_v sow_v by_o the_o carelessness_n of_o the_o servant_n or_o other_o church_n member_n matth._n 13.25_o 2._o that_o the_o prohibition_n to_o take_v they_o away_o be_v not_o absolute_a but_o only_o with_o a_o caution_n or_o proviso_n verse_n 29._o and_o in_o truth_n so_o tender_a be_v the_o lord_n of_o the_o wheat_n that_o he_o have_v rather_o many_o tare_n shall_v stand_v than_o one_o ear_n of_o corn_n shall_v be_v pluck_v up_o where_o therefore_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o wrong_v the_o wheat_n better_a let_v the_o tare_n stand_v not_o so_o if_o we_o can_v separate_v they_o without_o prejudice_n to_o yea_o with_o advantage_n of_o the_o wheat_n and_o therefore_o a_o bare_a suspicion_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o keep_v any_o from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o by_o gross_a ignorance_n or_o scandal_n it_o must_v appear_v he_o be_v a_o tear_v and_o not_o wheat_n before_o he_o can_v be_v suspend_v judicial_o for_o as_o for_o negative_a suspension_n before_o trial_n that_o be_v not_o proper_o a_o church_n censure_n no_o more_o than_o the_o non-admitting_a of_o infant_n or_o distract_a person_n but_o only_a a_o prudentiall_a forbear_n to_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o a_o person_n till_o he_o have_v be_v approve_v as_o visible_o worthy_a which_o yet_o may_v issue_v out_o into_o a_o formal_a suspension_n if_o any_o shall_v wilful_o obtrude_v without_o trial_n or_o upon_o trial_n shall_v be_v find_v visible_o unworthy_a and_o yet_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v to_o forbear_v till_o better_v prepare_v for_o his_o instance_n of_o christ_n converse_n with_o publican_n and_o sinner_n it_o make_v much_o for_o we_o and_o against_o himself_o such_o publican_n and_o sinner_n who_o be_v not_o ashamed_a public_o to_o profess_v their_o repentance_n and_o high_a respect_n to_o christ_n shall_v be_v very_o welcome_a to_o we_o as_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o blind_a and_o scandalous_a pharisees_n ought_v to_o be_v admit_v with_o these_o publican_n and_o sinner_n for_o his_o grand_a instance_n of_o judas_n it_o have_v be_v already_o answer_v only_o i_o can_v but_o stand_v amaze_v at_o his_o high_a fly_v confidence_n and_o censoriousness_n pag._n 19_o the_o evidence_n of_o which_o fact_n he_o mean_v of_o christ_n admit_v judas_n to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n have_v ever_o appear_v so_o full_o to_o the_o church_n that_o this_o alone_a have_v be_v ground_n sufficient_a to_o deduce_v their_o right_n of_o free_a admission_n and_o what_o need_v more_o indeed_o be_v urge_v but_o that_o man_n when_o they_o be_v willing_a not_o to_o see_v will_v let_v their_o hand_n put_v over_o their_o eye_n be_v enough_o to_o blind_v they_o answ_n 1._o sundry_a famous_a light_n in_o the_o church_n believe_v this_o long_a before_o mr._n h._n either_o preach_v or_o write_v and_o yet_o think_v it_o not_o ground_n enough_o for_o free_a admission_n but_o haply_o mr._n h._n be_v so_o charitable_a as_o to_o judge_v not_o only_o the_o reform_a church_n but_o also_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n ever_o since_o the_o dawn_n of_o reformation_n after_o the_o marian_n persecution_n to_o this_o day_n to_o have_v wilful_o put_v their_o hand_n over_o their_o eye_n and_o know_o to_o have_v sin_v against_o their_o conscience_n we_o may_v well_o bear_v this_o sharp_a censure_n with_o the_o more_o comfort_n and_o patience_n consider_v we_o suffer_v with_o so_o good_a company_n 2._o see_v you_o not_o how_o the_o vizard_n of_o humility_n fall_v off_o and_o both_o his_o breath_n and_o pen_n savour_v rank_o of_o pride_n in_o this_o unchristian_a censure_n be_v we_o as_o bad_a as_o mr._n h._n will_v make_v we_o we_o have_v undoubted_o make_v a_o great_a progress_n in_o the_o high_a way_n to_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o deserve_v ourselves_o not_o only_o to_o be_v suspend_v but_o also_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o must_v be_v bold_a to_o tell_v mr._n h._n that_o he_o who_o take_v upon_o himself_o to_o be_v so_o free_a a_o
no_o but_o the_o promise_n of_o grace_n can_v be_v seal_v to_o none_o but_o the_o legatee_n of_o the_o new_a covenant_n and_o such_o be_v only_a person_n elect_v or_o effectual_o call_v understand_v i_o here_o as_o to_o the_o spiritual_a and_o save_a branch_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o that_o be_v do_v on_o god_n part_n every_o sacrament_n second_o as_o for_o the_o church_n and_o the_o minister_n who_o can_v judge_v infallible_o who_o be_v elect_v and_o effectual_o call_v they_o must_v proceed_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o visibility_n seal_v the_o promise_n by_o the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o and_o they_o only_o who_o upon_o just_a trial_n temper_v with_o charity_n appear_v to_o be_v visible_a legatee_n and_o as_o christ_n himself_o respect_v not_o good_a word_n and_o outward_a profession_n when_o contradict_v by_o our_o carriage_n matth._n 7.21_o 22_o 23._o no_o more_o must_v the_o church_n when_o man_n carriage_n do_v visible_o contradict_v their_o profession_n three_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o nourishment_n seal_v not_o proper_o initial_a but_o progressive_a grace_n nor_o can_v the_o church_n apply_v it_o for_o conversion_n but_o edification_n and_o how_o be_v they_o capable_a of_o edification_n in_o grace_n who_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o grace_n or_o of_o visible_a edification_n who_o be_v destitute_a of_o visible_a grace_n four_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n not_o only_a sanctification_n but_o also_o the_o comfort_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v to_o the_o receiver_n but_o how_o can_v the_o comfort_n of_o holiness_n be_v seal_v to_o unholy_a person_n or_o by_o the_o minister_n apply_v to_o those_o who_o be_v visible_o unholy_a ezek._n 13.19_o 21._o pag._n 46._o he_o speak_v clear_o and_o true_o that_o a_o unregenerate_a man_n can_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o his_o faith_n for_o how_o can_v faith_n be_v seal_v to_o where_o it_o be_v not_o but_o what_o follow_v immediate_o yet_o the_o church_n can_v give_v it_o 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against_o he_o if_o right_o state_v true_o there_o may_v be_v true_a preach_n though_o the_o hearer_n apply_v not_o the_o word_n by_o faith_n but_o can_v there_o be_v true_a preach_n where_o the_o minister_n apply_v the_o word_n wrong_v bind_v where_o he_o shall_v loose_v and_o lose_v where_o he_o shall_v bind_v with_o the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n no_o more_o do_v that_o minister_n do_v his_o duty_n who_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n lose_v where_o he_o shall_v bind_v and_o seal_v comfort_n to_o he_o who_o be_v not_o a_o visible_a saint_n whereas_o in_o the_o close_a of_o pag._n 46._o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v there_o be_v not_o one_o tittle_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o sacrament_n to_o he_o man_n seal_n answ_n 1._o he_o speak_v dark_o and_o ambiguous_o as_o if_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v they_o be_v not_o man_n seal_n because_o they_o be_v god_n seal_n by_o which_o logic_n he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o sabbath_n be_v not_o man_n because_o it_o be_v god_n and_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o man_n because_o it_o be_v god_n yea_o that_o nothing_o be_v man_n because_o all_o thing_n be_v god_n as_o if_o humane_a propriety_n contradict_v divine_a supremacy_n 2._o if_o he_o mean_v the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o man_n seal_n by_o institution_n that_o be_v true_a but_o nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n the_o broad_a seal_n be_v not_o i_o by_o institution_n yet_o i_o may_v true_o say_v the_o broad_a seal_n be_v i_o when_o i_o have_v a_o patent_n or_o pardon_n seal_v by_o it_o 3._o do_v not_o the_o final_a cause_n give_v as_o true_a propriety_n as_o the_o efficient_a nay_o usual_o more_o a_o seal_n a_o suit_n a_o house_n etc._n etc._n be_v more_o his_o for_o who_o it_o be_v make_v than_o his_o that_o make_v it_o god_n indeed_o have_v a_o double_a propriety_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o make_v both_o by_o he_o and_o for_o he_o namely_o to_o seal_v his_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v make_v for_o man_n also_o man_n have_v a_o true_a propriety_n 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salvation_n to_o real_a saint_n to_o the_o first_o by_o the_o outward_a administration_n to_o the_o second_o by_o visible_a application_n to_o the_o three_o by_o real_a and_o spiritual_a application_n whereas_o therefore_o page_n 48._o mr._n h._n please_v himself_o with_o this_o embryon_n of_o his_o own_o brain_n which_o be_v former_o conceive_v by_o a_o pierce_a and_o godly_a man_n convert_v his_o opinion_n as_o he_o say_v admission_n and_o if_o i_o mistake_v not_o this_o pierce_a godly_a man_n be_v far_o from_o mr._n h._n his_o judgement_n of_o free_a admission_n ans_fw-fr 1._o i_o hope_v that_o godly_a person_n if_o so_o be_v convert_v before_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o embryon_n be_v hatch_v 2._o i_o see_v little_a of_o conversion_n or_o piety_n in_o admit_v all_o
all_o christ_n gracious_a and_o comfortable_a expression_n to_o his_o apostle_n be_v allay_v with_o exception_n while_o judas_n be_v present_a not_o so_o at_o and_o after_o the_o lord_n supper_n ergo_fw-la judas_n be_v not_o then_o present_a compare_v john_n 6.70_o &_o 13._o ver_fw-la 10.18.21_o with_o matth._n 26.29_o luke_n 22._o ver_fw-la 28_o 29_o 30._o he_o that_o except_v judas_n in_o the_o former_a expression_n will_v much_o more_o have_v except_v he_o in_o the_o latter_a have_v he_o then_o be_v present_a these_o and_o the_o like_a ground_n have_v move_v sundry_a both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a writer_n to_o believe_v that_o judas_n do_v not_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n namely_o clemens_n dionysius_n areopagita_n hilarius_n maximus_n pachymeres_n ammonius_n alexandrinus_n tatianus_n innocentius_n 3_o theophylactus_n rupertus_n tuitiensis_n &_o victor_n antiochenus_fw-la among_o the_o schoolman_n salmeron_n turrianus_n durandus_fw-la barradius_fw-la and_o of_o protestant_n daneus_n kleinwitzius_n piscator_fw-la beza_n tossanus_n musculus_fw-la zanchius_n gomarus_n diodati_n grotius_n etc._n etc._n see_v aaron_n rod_n blossom_a l._n 3._o c._n 8._o mr._n h._n his_o foundation_n from_o mark_n 14.23_o which_o as_o his_o text_n be_v the_o ground_n though_o misinterpret_v and_o mis-applyed_n of_o that_o his_o unhappy_a discourse_n will_v stand_v he_o in_o little_a stead_n the_o text_n say_v they_o all_o drink_v of_o it_o thence_o mr._n humphrey_n conclude_v ergo_fw-la judas_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n answ_n 1._o understand_v it_o of_o all_o that_o be_v present_a but_o its_o easy_a say_v than_o prove_v that_o indus_n be_v present_a at_o the_o lord_n supper_n 2._o all_o in_o scripture_n be_v sometime_o put_v for_o the_o most_o part_n especial_o in_o order_n to_o the_o number_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 15.7_o yea_o ver_fw-la 5._o of_o the_o same_o chapter_n twelve_o be_v put_v for_o eleven_o by_o roundness_n of_o number_n it_o be_v then_o a_o mere_a non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la to_o argue_v from_o all_o the_o apostle_n drink_v to_o judas_n his_o drink_n or_o from_o the_o twelves_o drink_v to_o judas_n his_o drink_n since_o 1._o all_o may_v very_o well_o be_v understand_v of_o all_o present_a 2._o because_o all_o in_o scripture-phrase_n be_v put_v to_o signify_v the_o most_o part_n and_o twelve_o in_o scripture-expression_n be_v put_v for_o eleven_o object_n but_o do_v not_o our_o bless_a saviour_n immediate_o after_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v but_o behold_v the_o hand_n of_o he_o that_o betray_v i_o be_v with_o i_o on_o the_o table_n luke_n 22._o for_o 21._o and_o if_o so_o be_v not_o indas_n then_o present_a at_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o if_o all_o present_a receive_v must_v not_o judas_n need_v receive_v also_o answ_n 1._o i_o may_v say_v the_o consequence_n be_v weak_a to_o argue_v from_o presence_n to_o receive_v but_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o urge_v now_o because_o of_o my_o former_a concession_n 2._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o luke_n write_v per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o so_o much_o observe_v the_o order_n of_o time_n as_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o matter_n which_o as_o its_o frequent_a in_o scripture_n so_o particular_o the_o harmony_n of_o the_o evangelist_n evince_v it_o in_o this_o subject_n we_o have_v two_o evangelist_n for_o one_o to_o prove_v that_o those_o word_n behold_v the_o hand_n of_o he_o that_o betray_v i_o etc._n etc._n be_v speak_v before_o not_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o one_o of_o these_o evangelist_n be_v present_a and_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n so_o be_v not_o luke_n who_o stand_v not_o so_o much_o upon_o the_o order_n as_o upon_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o narrative_a in_o this_o business_n of_o the_o supper_n see_v matth._n 26._o ver_fw-la 21_o 24_o 26._o mark_v 14._o ver_fw-la 18_o 21_o 22._o it_o follow_v not_o then_o that_o because_o judas_n be_v at_o the_o table_n share_v in_o the_o common_a supper_n yea_o haply_o in_o the_o passover_n that_o therefore_o he_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n or_o be_v present_a at_o it_o but_o suppose_v he_o be_v present_a &_o receive_v 1._o the_o apostle_n scarce_o suspect_v he_o though_o discover_v john_n 13.28_o 29._o 2._o judas_n have_v not_o yet_o actual_o betray_v christ_n his_o treason_n as_o well_o as_o peter_n denial_n be_v yet_o future_a and_o its_o absurd_a to_o punish_v any_o for_o a_o future_a sin_n 3._o christ_n act_v here_o as_o a_o minister_n it_o be_v not_o fit_a he_o shall_v be_v both_o judge_n and_o witness_v and_o it_o may_v have_v be_v a_o ill_a precedent_n for_o minister_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o by_o their_o own_o power_n to_o deny_v the_o sacrament_n judicial_o to_o who_o they_o please_v it_o be_v far_o otherwise_o with_o we_o see_v none_o be_v suspend_v but_o 1._o such_o as_o suspend_v themselves_o by_o slight_v or_o refuse_v due_a trial_n 2._o such_o as_o upon_o trial_n be_v find_v unworthy_a through_o ignorance_n or_o scandal_n and_o that_o only_o till_o they_o gain_v better_a information_n or_o give_v the_o church_n just_a satisfaction_n by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v how_o weak_a mr._n humphreys_n first_o foundation_n be_v and_o that_o therefore_o the_o superstructure_n can_v be_v strong_a contrà_fw-la from_o his_o own_o proof_n we_o argue_v against_o he_o thus_o none_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v either_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a no_o not_o judas_n himself_o ergo_fw-la he_o or_o their_o receive_n be_v no_o warrant_n for_o any_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a person_n to_o receive_v the_o main_a question_n be_v about_o judas_n and_o not_o as_o to_o ignorance_n but_o scandal_n and_o scandal_n can_v arise_v but_o 1._o from_o a_o sin_n commit_v by_o a_o professor_n 2._o know_v and_o divulge_v but_o judas_n have_v not_o yet_o betray_v christ_n no_o more_o than_o peter_n have_v deny_v he_o ergo_fw-la he_o be_v not_o yet_o convict_v of_o a_o scandalous_a sin_n you_o will_v say_v judas_n have_v already_o do_v it_o in_o purpose_n and_o compact_n answ_n true_o yet_o christ_n charge_v he_o not_o with_o that_o but_o only_o foretell_v his_o actual_a treachery_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o perpetrate_v be_v no_o visible_a bar_n to_o his_o present_a receive_n but_o a_o sad_a effect_n of_o his_o unworthy_a receive_n suppose_v he_o do_v receive_v the_o devil_n enter_v into_o he_o as_o well_o after_o the_o sacrament_n as_o after_o the_o sop_n john_n 13.27_o let_v all_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n take_v heed_n of_o judas_n his_o sin_n unworthy_a receive_a lest_o the_o fate_n of_o judas_n betide_v they_o namely_o 1._o spiritual_a possession_n by_o satan_n 2._o christ-murther_n 3._o self-murder_n state_n the_o case_n aright_o and_o a_o mean_a capacity_n may_v easy_o apprehend_v how_o wide_a and_o wild_a mr._n humphrey_n his_o conclusion_n be_v judas_n a_o great_a professor_n and_o a_o eminent_a and_o extraordinary_a minister_n plot_n and_o purpose_n a_o great_a sin_n that_o he_o shall_v commit_v this_o sin_n be_v foretell_v by_o a_o spirit_n of_o revelation_n as_o also_o be_v peter_n denial_n and_o perjury_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o either_o or_o both_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v suspend_v the_o sacrament_n for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v neither_o 1._o because_o those_o sin_n be_v not_o yet_o commit_v and_o so_o not_o scandalous_a 2._o because_o christ_n act_v as_o a_o minister_n can_v not_o be_v both_o witness_n judge_n and_o executioner_n if_o you_o say_v he_o act_v as_o god_n or_o as_o mediator_n answ_n it_o be_v very_o dangerous_a to_o make_v christ_n divine_a or_o mediatory_a act_n a_o precedent_n for_o imitation_n who_o will_v say_v the_o magistrate_n shall_v not_o condemn_v the_o adulteress_n because_o christ_n do_v not_o condemn_v she_o john_n 8.10_o 11._o christ_n administer_v the_o sacrament_n only_o to_o man_n only_o to_o minister_n after_o supper_n in_o ah_o upper_a room_n must_v we_o therefore_o do_v no_o otherwise_o whenever_o mr._n humphrey_n preach_v again_o upon_o this_o subject_n let_v i_o entreat_v he_o to_o take_v a_o more_o pertinent_a text_n if_o at_o least_o he_o can_v find_v it_o otherwise_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o he_o will_v scarce_o prove_v himself_o what_o he_o be_v style_v a_o master_n of_o arts._n but_o to_o pass_v on_o for_o the_o better_a manage_n of_o his_o cause_n pag._n 3._o mr._n humphrey_n premise_v that_o in_o the_o church_n god_n have_v set_v up_o his_o ordinance_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n of_o these_o ordinance_n some_o be_v capable_a and_o some_o uncapable_a those_o that_o be_v uncapable_a be_v either_o so_o by_o nature_n as_o infant_n and_o distract_a person_n or_o by_o the_o church_n censure_n of_o excommunication_n and_o none_o other_o before_o we_o proceed_v let_v we_o see_v what_o water_n some_o of_o these_o dictate_v will_v hold_v and_o 1._o how_o can_v he_o prove_v that_o infant_n and_o distract_a person_n be_v
direct_o to_o his_o objection_n &_o answer_n the_o doctrine_n of_o free_a admission_n will_v take_v away_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n excommunicate_a excommunication_n and_o leave_v we_o no_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n obj._n 1_o this_o objection_n i_o conceive_v mr._n h._n may_v have_v spare_v there_o be_v no_o great_a strength_n in_o it_o against_o free_a admission_n in_o his_o sense_n which_o admit_v not_o excommunicate_v person_n yet_o withal_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o his_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o objection_n be_v unsatisfactory_a and_o not_o we_o but_o himself_o will_v be_v find_v guilty_a of_o false_a surmise_n about_o excommunication_n and_o suspension_n and_o here_o i_o value_v not_o what_o the_o objection_n surmise_n since_o mr._n h._n may_v frame_v it_o as_o he_o please_v and_o so_o make_v it_o surmise_v what_o he_o will_v but_o if_o thereby_o he_o intend_v to_o insinuate_v that_o we_o look_v at_o church_n discipline_n as_o lie_v sole_o in_o suspension_n i_o must_v tell_v he_o he_o act_v not_o the_o part_n of_o a_o fair_a respondent_fw-la 1._o therefore_o for_o negative_a suspension_n which_o be_v a_o bare_a non-admission_n we_o account_v it_o no_o part_n of_o church_n discipline_n no_o more_o than_o himself_o do_v the_o non_fw-la admission_n of_o infant_n or_o mad_a folk_n 2._o for_o positive_a suspension_n whereby_o 1._o person_n upon_o trial_n find_v unworthy_a by_o the_o eldership_n 2._o person_n who_o obstinate_o refuse_v trial_n yet_o will_v obtrude_v themselves_o upon_o the_o sacrament_n be_v by_o vote_n of_o the_o eldership_n deny_v participation_n this_o we_o say_v be_v a_o act_n of_o church_n discipline_n and_o a_o lesser_a degree_n of_o excommunication_n whereof_o i_o conceive_v there_o be_v a_o threefold_a degree_n 1._o from_o private_a communion_n 2_o thess_n 3.14_o 2._o not_o only_o from_o private_a but_o also_o from_o sacramental_a communion_n 1._o cor._n 5.11_o eat_v there_o be_v extend_v to_o sacramental_a eat_v as_o well_o as_o domestical_a eat_n as_o be_v clear_v by_o the_o antiquaerist_n in_o his_o vindication_n or_o answer_n to_o suspension_n suspend_v to_o which_o therefore_o i_o refer_v 3._o from_o church_n membership_n mat._n 18.17_o 18._o &_o 1_o cor._n 5.5_o yet_o withal_o i_o add_v this_o positive_a susspension_n be_v not_o issue_v out_o against_o any_o unless_o by_o their_o obstinacy_n they_o force_v the_o eldership_n to_o it_o for_o 1._o if_o a_o person_n upon_o trial_n be_v find_v ignorant_a the_o eldership_n do_v not_o present_o proceed_v to_o suspension_n but_o entreat_v he_o to_o forbear_v a_o sacrament_n or_o two_o till_o he_o have_v attain_v to_o some_o competency_n of_o knowledge_n in_o order_n whereunto_o they_o give_v he_o direction_n and_o offer_v he_o their_o assistance_n if_o for_o all_o this_o he_o thrust_v himself_o upon_o the_o sacrament_n they_o desire_v he_o to_o forbear_v and_o tell_v he_o they_o dare_v not_o admit_v he_o till_o more_o capable_a and_o last_o if_o all_o this_o will_v not_o serve_v they_o be_v force_v to_o issue_n out_o a_o vote_n of_o suspension_n which_o yet_o i_o believe_v be_v very_o rare_a since_o too_o many_o suspend_v themselves_o by_o keep_v away_o because_o they_o will_v not_o be_v try_v 2._o if_o a_o person_n be_v find_v scandalous_a they_o admonish_v he_o be_v before_o they_o if_o he_o profess_v repentance_n and_o be_v willing_a to_o give_v satisfaction_n they_o dare_v not_o refuse_v he_o otherwise_o they_o proceed_v with_o he_o as_o with_o the_o former_a after_o conviction_n and_o if_o the_o sin_n and_o scandal_n be_v great_a and_o aggravate_v by_o obstinacy_n they_o proceed_v not_o only_o to_o suspension_n but_o also_o to_o dismembership_n have_v give_v this_o account_n of_o out_o judgement_n and_o practice_n let_v we_o weigh_v mr._n h._n his_o judgement_n about_o church_n censure_n pag._n 31._o he_o say_v they_o be_v punishment_n upon_o scandalous_a person_n after_o a_o legal_a conviction_n whereby_o they_o be_v debar_v from_o christian_a society_n in_o general_n answ_n 1._o in_o this_o description_n he_o surmise_n amiss_o by_o omit_v one_o main_a end_n of_o church_n censure_n namely_o the_o amendment_n of_o the_o party_n censure_v 1_o cor._n 5.5_o 2._o in_o restrain_v they_o only_o to_o scandalous_a person_n as_o to_o practice_n which_o be_v extendible_a to_o any_o wilful_a sinner_n and_o if_o person_n wilful_o ignorant_a be_v not_o wilful_a sinner_n i_o know_v not_o who_o be_v 2_o pet._n 3.5_o 3._o in_o debar_v person_n censure_v of_o all_o christian_a society_n in_o general_n and_o here_o i_o challenge_v master_n humphrey_n and_o all_o the_o world_n to_o show_v i_o any_o one_o place_n in_o scripture_n which_o require_v that_o person_n excommunicate_v shall_v not_o be_v present_a at_o any_o public_a ordinance_n i_o grant_v that_o by_o excommunication_n they_o be_v make_v as_o heathen_a and_o publican_n and_o be_v in_o status_fw-la quo_fw-la no_o church_n member_n matth._n 18.17_o but_o i_o see_v no_o place_n that_o prove_v person_n out_o of_o the_o church_n may_v not_o be_v present_a at_o any_o public_a ordinance_n i_o be_o sure_a 1_o corinth_n 14.24_o favour_v the_o contrary_a he_o be_v therefore_o much_o mistake_v about_o we_o who_o neither_o shut_v the_o church_n door_n nor_o the_o chancel_n door_n against_o any_o person_n censure_v but_o admit_v they_o to_o be_v present_a at_o all_o ordinance_n nor_o do_v we_o believe_v their_o presence_n will_v leaven_n any_o since_o spiritual_a defilement_n be_v not_o contract_v by_o presence_n but_o by_o connivance_n or_o imitation_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o if_o any_o gratify_v profane_a person_n it_o must_v be_v they_o who_o exclude_v from_o all_o ordinance_n not_o we_o who_o admit_v they_o to_o be_v present_a at_o all_o ordinance_n though_o we_o restrain_v they_o from_o actual_a receive_n and_o that_o upon_o very_o weighty_a reason_n yet_o withal_o let_v i_o tell_v mr._n humphrey_n that_o he_o be_v mistake_v in_o say_v pag._n 32._o that_o profane_a person_n never_o care_v to_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n do_v he_o never_o hear_v of_o poor_a ignorant_a and_o profane_a creature_n that_o must_v needs_o come_v and_o eat_v their_o maker_n at_o easter_n especial_o or_o be_v he_o only_o a_o stranger_n in_o israel_n and_o know_v not_o these_o thing_n may_v not_o ignorant_a and_o profane_a one_o desire_v the_o sacrament_n partly_o out_o of_o custom_n and_o fashion_n partly_o because_o they_o apprehend_v its_o a_o disgrace_n for_o they_o to_o be_v turn_v away_o and_o for_o many_o such_o trivial_a ground_n for_o his_o second_o snrmise_n pag._n 32._o that_o suspension_n be_v institute_v only_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o ordinance_n to_o keep_v they_o pure_a and_o holy_a if_o the_o sacrament_n especial_o will_v he_o defy_v otherwise_o to_o the_o receiver_n answ_n 1._o we_o think_v the_o ordinance_n be_v defile_v only_o to_o those_o who_o use_v they_o sinful_o 2._o that_o person_n be_v defile_v not_o by_o presence_n with_o unworthy_a receiver_n but_o by_o partake_v in_o their_o sin_n 3._o that_o they_o partake_v in_o the_o sin_n of_o unworthy_a receiver_n who_o do_v not_o their_o duty_n to_o reform_v they_o or_o to_o keep_v they_o from_o receive_v in_o case_n they_o will_v not_o be_v reform_v it_o be_v therefore_o false_a which_o he_o assert_n pag._n 32._o that_o church_n censure_n concern_v not_o those_o who_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o ordinance_n but_o be_v use_v in_o reference_n only_o to_o offender_n etc._n etc._n for_o 1._o it_o concern_v all_o church_n member_n in_o their_o place_n to_o look_v to_o it_o that_o church_n censure_v be_v due_o execute_v 2._o their_o very_a execution_n do_v much_o concern_v church_n member_n by_o fear_n to_o keep_v then_o from_o those_o inordinate_a course_n which_o bring_v church_n censure_n upon_o other_o and_o its_o considerable_a how_o he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o paragraph_n when_o he_o make_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v the_o end_n of_o church_n censure_n and_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o the_o world_n whether_o admonition_n which_o better_o render_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o first_o greek_a word_n satisfy_v the_o congregation_n and_o warning_n or_o example_n concern_v more_o of_o the_o congregation_n but_o the_o party_n offend_v his_o three_o pretend_a surmise_n be_v that_o we_o conceive_v there_o be_v a_o most_o near_o essential_a relation_n between_o this_o excommunication_n and_o the_o communion_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o part_n of_o it_o at_o least_o some_o necessary_a antecedent_n as_o if_o the_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v administer_v without_o it_o answ_n 1._o the_o objection_n itself_o propound_v pag._n 30._o and_o elevate_v to_o the_o height_n of_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o design_n infer_v no_o such_o mad_a consequence_n for_o grant_v it_o be_v a_o truth_n that_o free_a admission_n do_v takeaway_n the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n etc._n etc._n how_o
himself_o etc._n etc._n for_o he_o that_o be_v convert_v by_o actual_a receive_n do_v not_o eat_v judgement_n but_o mercy_n 2._o suppose_v a_o man_n shall_v be_v convert_v by_o that_o short_a exhortation_n take_v since_o that_o may_v be_v do_v by_o presence_n at_o the_o sacrament_n without_o actual_a receive_n how_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o all_o must_v receive_v because_o some_o may_v be_v convert_v by_o the_o exhortation_n to_o receive_v any_o more_o than_o that_o all_o must_v be_v assure_v of_o their_o salvation_n because_o some_o be_v comfort_v by_o the_o exhortation_n to_o assurance_n which_o be_v not_o immediate_o the_o duty_n nor_o at_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o unconverted_a person_n in_o statu_fw-la quo_fw-la page_n 66._o for_o further_a proof_n he_o suppose_v a_o moral_a unregenerate_a man_n do_v his_o best_a to_o prepare_v himself_o thence_o he_o infer_v do_v we_o think_v now_o to_o such_o a_o man_n the_o ordinance_n be_v necessary_o fruitless_a etc._n etc._n then_o god_n help_v we_o shall_v not_o his_o examination_n prayer_n etc._n etc._n conduce_v more_o to_o convert_v he_o then_o the_o bare_a preach_v of_o a_o sermon_n especial_o consider_v the_o word_n do_v but_o precede_v and_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n accedit_fw-la verbum_fw-la ad_fw-la elementum_fw-la etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o no_o natural_a man_n ever_o do_v his_o best_a to_o prepare_v himself_o 2._o notwithstanding_o all_o his_o preparatory_a act_n he_o have_v still_o the_o unworthiness_n of_o person_n he_o come_v as_o be_v suppose_v unconvert_v to_o the_o sacrament_n 3._o therefore_o he_o come_v to_o the_o feast_n without_o the_o wedding_n garment_n and_o whether_o conversion_n or_o confusion_n be_v the_o portion_n of_o such_o a_o guest_n let_v the_o text_n judge_n suppose_v as_o m._n h._n will_v have_v it_o the_o marriage_n feast_n be_v the_o lord_n supper_n we_o believe_v no_o ordinance_n be_v the_o feast_n but_o rather_o the_o dish_n wherein_o the_o feast_n be_v serve_v 4._o i_o wonder_v m._n h._n shall_v attribute_v more_o to_o a_o few_o dead_a act_n of_o a_o natural_a man_n then_o to_o the_o word_n preach_v which_o be_v the_o great_a ordinance_n set_v apart_o for_o the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n act_n 26.16_o 18._o rom._n 10.14_o 17._o as_o if_o he_o design_v to_o advance_v nature_n and_o freewill_n above_o grace_n 5._o because_o he_o add_v i_o but_o the_o word_n accompany_v the_o sacrament_n what_o follow_v thence_o but_o that_o any_o one_o may_v be_v present_a to_o hear_v and_o see_v but_o only_o worthy_a communicant_n be_v to_o receive_v and_o unless_o he_o can_v make_v out_o that_o actual_a receive_n of_o the_o element_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n it_o actual_a receive_v be_v neither_o a_o word_n nor_o a_o act_n of_o god_n but_o mere_o a_o act_n of_o the_o creature_n and_o a_o outward_a act_n too_o and_o therefore_o have_v not_o a_o convert_n power_n in_o it_o all_o he_o plead_v from_o the_o antecedaneous_a act_n will_v not_o conclude_v his_o free_a admission_n since_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o visible_a and_o audible_a word_n or_o of_o christ_n death_n declare_v may_v be_v attain_v by_o presence_n at_o the_o sacrament_n though_o a_o person_n do_v not_o actual_o receive_v i_o will_v not_o here_o be_v mistake_v as_o if_o i_o plead_v for_o a_o sacrament_n without_o receiver_n which_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o adjecto_fw-la but_o i_o see_v no_o warrant_n in_o the_o word_n why_o the_o whole_a congregation_n shall_v not_o stay_v at_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o with_o much_o profit_n as_o well_o as_o at_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n though_o all_o do_v not_o partake_v nor_o can_v i_o look_v at_o their_o ancient_a item_fw-la missa_fw-la est_fw-la as_o a_o divine_a precept_n but_o as_o a_o humane_a tradition_n for_o his_o instance_n pag._n 57_o of_o a_o poor_a humble_a soul_n hope_v to_o meet_v christ_n at_o the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v 1._o if_o his_o humiliation_n and_o hope_n be_v right_a he_o be_v a_o worthy_a receiver_n and_o already_o convert_v and_o so_o not_o a_o fit_a instance_n or_o medium_n to_o prove_v m._n h._n his_o conclusion_n if_o his_o hope_n and_o humiliation_n be_v not_o right_a than_o he_o be_v in_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o former_a and_o by_o his_o hypocrisy_n draw_v further_a guilt_n upon_o himself_o 2._o this_o poor_a soul_n if_o right_o humble_v hunger_n after_o christ_n roll_v upon_o he_o and_o adhere_v to_o he_o which_o be_v proper_a act_n of_o save_v and_o justify_v faith_n though_o he_o can_v rise_v up_o to_o faith_n of_o evidence_n nor_o can_v any_o man_n avoid_v despair_n unless_o he_o lean_v upon_o christ_n or_o somewhat_o else_o all_o which_o clear_o prove_v this_o person_n to_o be_v convert_v and_o that_o therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o he_o only_o a_o mean_n of_o edification_n and_o comfort_n his_o three_o instance_n pag._n 58._o of_o the_o disciple_n of_o emaus_n be_v to_o as_o little_a purpose_n as_o the_o two_o former_a unless_o he_o can_v prove_v 1._o that_o then_o they_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n 2._o that_o that_o break_n of_o bread_n be_v the_o sacrament_n luk._n 24.30_o 3._o that_o they_o be_v convert_v by_o that_o break_n of_o bread_n dictate_v so_o absurd_a that_o the_o very_a name_n of_o they_o may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a confutation_n although_o a_o man_n may_v be_v convert_v at_o 58._o rep._n pag._n 58._o it_o be_v not_o by_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v occasional_o but_o not_o intentional_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n here_o before_o i_o proceed_v any_o further_a i_o must_v tell_v m._n h._n he_o frame_v a_o objection_n for_o we_o very_o unhandsome_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n occasional_o not_o intentional_o little_o better_o than_o a_o contradiction_n the_o very_a notion_n of_o a_o ordinance_n imply_v divine_a ordination_n or_o appointment_n of_o any_o thing_n by_o his_o reveal_v will_v as_o a_o mean_n of_o conversion_n edification_n comfort_n and_o benefit_n to_o the_o creature_n and_o how_o this_o can_v be_v proper_o call_v a_o not_o intentional_o convert_v ordinance_n be_v to_o i_o a_o paradox_n let_v he_o prove_v actual_a receive_n to_o be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n and_o we_o shall_v not_o doubt_v but_o it_o be_v so_o intentional_o to_o the_o reply_n m._n h._n answer_n that_o it_o be_v grant_v the_o matter_n be_v upon_o the_o point_n yield_v partly_o because_o none_o be_v express_o forbid_v to_o come_v and_o partly_o because_o all_o occasion_n must_v be_v take_v for_o our_o salvation_n answ_n 1._o the_o cause_n be_v not_o yield_v unless_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o actual_a receive_n be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n since_o the_o end_n of_o conversion_n may_v be_v attain_v by_o presence_n at_o the_o sacrament_n without_o receive_v but_o the_o danger_n of_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o can_v be_v incur_v without_o receive_v 1._o cor._n 11.27_o 29._o which_o yet_o have_v no_o influence_n in_o order_n to_o conversion_n by_o presence_n much_o benefit_n may_v be_v gain_v without_o danger_n of_o unworthy_a receive_n by_o receive_v much_o guilt_n may_v be_v contract_v without_o hope_n of_o benefit_n to_o the_o unconvert_v second_o if_o receive_v be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n how_o dare_v m._n h._n exclude_v either_o child_n distract_v or_o excommunicate_v person_n from_o it_o especial_o since_o these_o have_v most_o need_v of_o it_o and_o those_o be_v best_a teach_v by_o sense_n who_o have_v not_o so_o free_a a_o exercise_n of_o reason_n yea_o why_o shall_v heathen_a be_v deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n more_o than_o the_o word_n preach_v if_o it_o be_v a_o convert_v ordinance_n be_v not_o they_o also_o bind_v to_o use_v all_o mean_n and_o take_v all_o occasion_n of_o conversion_n to_o use_v m._n h._n his_o own_o word_n but_o if_o all_o have_v be_v say_v will_v not_o take_v with_o we_o m._n h._n at_o last_o have_v find_v out_o a_o way_n whole_o to_o root_v out_o this_o subtlety_n which_o he_o think_v the_o spirit_n of_o error_n have_v insinuate_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o many_o godly_a man_n by_o three_o thing_n he_o have_v more_o to_o say_v etc._n etc._n answ_n by_o the_o way_n observe_v this_o man_n presumption_n and_o censoriousnesse_n 1._o in_o charge_v so_o many_o godly_a person_n to_o be_v act_v with_o a_o spirit_n of_o error_n in_o this_o particular_a 2._o in_o his_o confident_a undertake_n whole_o to_o root_v it_o out_o by_o what_o he_o have_v to_o say_v which_o though_o mountain_n in_o his_o own_o conceit_n yet_o when_o they_o come_v to_o be_v scan_v we_o hope_v by_o god_n assistance_n to_o make_v appear_v they_o scarce_o deserve_v the_o name_n of_o molehill_n and_o with_o a_o sling_n and_o stone_n of_o god_n make_v fear_v not_o to_o encounter_v with_o this_o great_a and_o vaunt_a goliath_n who_o by_o big_a word_n bid_v defiance_n to_o
the_o whole_a host_n of_o god_n israel_n his_o first_o grand_a argument_n pag._n 59_o be_v this_o that_o the_o sacrament_n and_o all_o ordinance_n be_v primary_o and_o proper_o mean_v of_o grace_n and_o but_o in_o a_o remote_a sense_n mean_v of_o conversion_n or_o confirmation_n for_o this_o grace_n we_o receive_v in_o the_o use_n of_o they_o convert_v some_o and_o strengthen_v other_o and_o this_o grace_n receive_v in_o the_o sacrament_n work_v in_o the_o unregenerate_a for_o their_o conversion_n answ_n be_v not_o here_o prime_a stuff_n worthy_a of_o a_o doctor_n in_o cathedrâ_fw-la but_o to_o answer_v distinct_o i_o must_v first_o premise_v that_o here_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o relative_a but_o absolute_a not_o of_o external_a but_o internal_a or_o inherent_a grace_n for_o otherwise_o the_o ordinance_n be_v mean_n of_o justification_n and_o adoption_n as_o well_o as_o of_o holiness_n of_o which_o last_o yet_o he_o must_v be_v understand_v this_o premise_a i_o answer_v 1._o that_o if_o the_o ordinance_n be_v primary_o mean_v of_o grace_n they_o must_v needs_o be_v primary_o mean_v of_o conversion_n and_o confirmation_n since_o primary_n conversion_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o grace_n at_o first_o infuse_v and_o primary_n confirmation_n be_v degree_n of_o the_o same_o grace_n superad_v for_o further_o clear_n whereof_o and_o that_o all_o the_o world_n may_v see_v how_o m._n h._n instead_o of_o inform_v will_v blind_v and_o baffle_v the_o incautelous_a or_o injudicious_a reader_n we_o must_v understand_v there_o be_v a_o twofold_a conversion_n one_o primary_n when_o god_n convert_v and_o change_v the_o heart_n by_o create_v grace_n therein_o and_o so_o make_v it_o a_o new_a and_o soft_a heart_n ezek._n 36.26_o turn_v the_o wolf_n into_o a_o lamb_n etc._n etc._n the_o other_o secondary_a when_o by_o virtue_n of_o grace_n inherent_a assist_v by_o grace_n external_a we_o turn_v ourselves_o from_o sin_n to_o god_n ezek._n 18.31_o 32._o now_o since_o there_o be_v no_o inherent_a grace_n but_o it_o be_v formal_o and_o not_o only_o efficient_o convert_v or_o confirm_v its_o impossible_a initial_a grace_n shall_v be_v wrought_v but_o conversion_n which_o be_v a_o change_n of_o principle_n must_v needs_o be_v wrought_v immediate_o also_o and_o it_o be_v as_o impossible_a degree_n of_o grace_n shall_v be_v superad_v but_o thereby_o formal_o confirmation_n must_v be_v wrought_v be_v not_o the_o change_n from_o death_n to_o life_n great_a than_o from_o a_o principle_n of_o life_n to_o a_o act_n of_o life_n now_o the_o first_o infusion_n of_o grace_n be_v a_o change_n from_o death_n to_o life_n and_o be_v sole_o god_n act_v wherein_o the_o creature_n be_v mere_o passive_a 2_o cor._n 4.6_o as_o the_o dark_a chaos_n be_v to_o the_o light_n gen._n 1.2_o 3._o and_o this_o be_v god_n convert_v of_o we_o or_o habitual_a conversion_n our_o convert_n of_o ourselves_o which_o be_v m._n humphrey_n his_o sole_a conversion_n be_v nothing_o but_o a_o reflect_v of_o the_o beam_n upon_o the_o son_n of_o righteousness_n and_o in_o a_o manner_n nothing_o to_o the_o former_a work_n of_o divine_a conversion_n this_o we_o call_v actual_a conversion_n as_o habitual_a sanctification_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d actual_a sanctification_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d his_o assertion_n then_o be_v false_a that_o the_o ordinance_n be_v remote_o mean_v of_o conversion_n for_o if_o the_o ordinance_n be_v primary_o mean_v of_o convert_v grace_n they_o must_v needs_o be_v primary_o mean_v of_o conversion_n since_o grace_v infuse_v be_v primary_n conversion_n but_o grace_n act_v be_v secondary_a conversion_n the_o same_o i_o may_v say_v of_o confirmation_n also_o in_o proportion_n second_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o actual_a receive_n be_v either_o primary_o or_o secondary_o a_o mean_n of_o convert_v grace_n and_o therefore_o will_v certain_o prejudice_v but_o can_v benefit_v a_o unconverted_a person_n three_o how_o absurd_a be_v the_o last_o clause_n this_o grace_n receive_v in_o the_o sacrament_n work_v in_o the_o unregenerate_a for_o their_o conversion_n for_o 1._o how_o be_v he_o unregenerate_v who_o have_v receive_v grace_n which_o formal_o regenerate_v he_o 2._o how_o can_v a_o man_n be_v regenerate_v and_o yet_o at_o the_o same_o instant_n unconvert_v yet_o if_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o doctrine_n be_v true_a this_o will_v follow_v since_o a_o man_n be_v regenerate_v by_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n infuse_v which_o not_o only_o in_o order_n of_o nature_n but_o also_o in_o order_n of_o time_n may_v precede_v the_o act_n of_o grace_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o grace_n present_a shall_v act_v immediate_o or_o at_o all_o time_n now_o since_o mr._n h._n his_o conversion_n be_v nothing_o but_o the_o act_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o habit_n of_o grace_n infuse_v may_v in_o time_n precede_v the_o act_n and_o there_o be_v no_o conversion_n before_o the_o act_n of_o grace_n do_v it_o not_o hence_o necessary_o follow_v that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v regenerate_v and_o yet_o at_o the_o same_o instant_n of_o time_n unconvert_v that_o be_v at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o a_o state_n of_o nature_n as_o unconvert_v and_o yet_o in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n as_o regenerate_v but_o how_o absurd_a and_o dissonant_n be_v this_o to_o true_a divinity_n his_o second_o grand_a argument_n be_v draw_v from_o a_o distinction_n of_o conversion_n which_o he_o make_v double_a 1._o outward_a from_o heathenism_n to_o the_o profession_n of_o christianity_n he_o will_v not_o say_v the_o sacrament_n be_v such_o a_o convert_v ordinance_n 2._o a_o effectual_a conversion_n from_o profession_n to_o the_o truth_n of_o grace_n and_o thus_o the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o visible_a word_n do_v convert_v instrumental_o as_o well_o as_o the_o word_n preach_v the_o spirit_n be_v the_o principal_a cause_n of_o conversion_n in_o both_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o close_a of_o pag._n 60._o he_o appeal_v to_o experience_n for_o 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be_o leave_v to_o my_o own_o arbitration_n and_o another_o to_o eat_v at_o the_o sacrament_n which_o 1_o be_o bind_v unto_o as_o a_o piece_n of_o god_n service_n lanswer_v 1._o that_o as_o eat_v at_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o duty_n so_o natural_a eat_n be_v a_o duty_n which_o can_v be_v neglect_v without_o guilt_n of_o self-murder_n 2._o as_o when_o i_o can_v i_o ought_v to_o avoid_v eat_v at_o my_o own_o house_n with_o a_o scandalous_a person_n so_o when_o i_o can_v without_o sin_n i_o ought_v to_o avoid_v eat_v at_o the_o sacrament_n with_o a_o scandalous_a person_n 3._o as_o i_o ought_v not_o to_o avoid_v eat_v with_o a_o scandalous_a person_n to_o endanger_v my_o life_n or_o health_n so_o i_o ought_v not_o with_o the_o hazard_n of_o my_o spiritual_a life_n and_o health_n to_o avoid_v sacramental_a eat_n with_o a_o scandalous_a person_n 4._o as_o when_o a_o scandalous_a person_n will_v obtrude_v himself_o to_o my_o table_n i_o ought_v by_o all_o lawful_a mean_n to_o exclude_v he_o 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excommunicetion_n excuse_v not_o from_o duty_n though_o it_o make_v a_o person_n uncapable_a of_o some_o privilege_n nor_o can_v another_o excommunication_n excommunicate_v i_o either_o from_o duty_n or_o privilege_n god_n child_n must_v present_v themselves_o before_o god_n though_o satan_n himself_o come_v in_o among_o they_o job_n 1.6_o and_o 2.1_o as_o for_o those_o place_n jer._n 15.19_o and_o 1_o tim._n 5.22_o though_o they_o reach_v not_o the_o case_n of_o the_o sacrament_n immediate_o and_o in_o term_n yet_o they_o come_v home_o to_o it_o in_o a_o direct_a and_o natural_a consequence_n since_o it_o concern_v minister_n to_o separate_v the_o precious_a from_o the_o vile_a practical_o as_o well_o as_o doctrinal_o in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o well_o as_o in_o other_o ordinance_n and_o certain_o they_o who_o have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v from_o all_o ordinance_n as_o mr._n h._n teach_v have_v much_o more_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v from_o some_o and_o if_o partial_a or_o 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