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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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woman_n not_o because_o they_o want_v ability_n about_o which_o the_o present_a question_n be_v 2._o it_o must_v belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n of_o christ_n if_o john_n 10._o v._o 5._o reach_v so_o far_o as_o he_o conclude_v it_o do_v pag._n 133._o for_o such_o sheep_n as_o be_v hearer_n be_v there_o assert_v to_o have_v both_o ability_n and_o liberty_n to_o judge_v what_o teacher_n they_o be_v to_o follow_v and_o who_o they_o be_v to_o avoid_v that_o one_o sell_v v._o 16._o be_v one_o specifical_o jew_n and_o gentile_n have_v one_o kind_n of_o church_n order_n not_o one_o numerical_o all_o do_v not_o make_v up_o one_o church_n of_o church_n but_o how_o he_o can_v reconcile_v his_o own_o expression_n upon_o this_o text_n and_o make_v they_o agree_v in_o one_o we_o know_v not_o for_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o text_n say_v my_o sheep_n not_o my_o fold_n what_o be_v here_o make_v to_o belong_v to_o sheep_n belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 133._o if_o our_o brethren_n say_v the_o text_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n sheep_n as_o fold_v together_o in_o the_o church_n we_o grant_v what_o they_o say_v but_o say_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o one_o fold_n ver_fw-la 16._o do_v not_o one_o of_o the_o expression_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v christ_n fold_n and_o the_o other_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v his_o fold_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a 3._o although_o this_o or_o that_o church-member_n take_v single_o may_v want_v ability_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a qualification_n yet_o all_o the_o member_n of_o a_o church_n form_v according_a to_o christ_n institution_n be_v gather_v together_o in_o christ_n name_n to_o wait_v for_o counsel_n at_o his_o mouth_n in_o such_o a_o matter_n will_v be_v able_a and_o so_o it_o may_v well_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o judge_v whether_o a_o man_n hold_v fast_o the_o faithful_a word_n be_v apt_a to_o teach_v and_o be_v able_a by_o sound_a doctrine_n to_o exhort_v and_o convince_v gainsayers_a chap._n vi_o show_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o mr._n pool_n exception_n in_o the_o three_o first_o chapter_n of_o his_o book_n there_o come_v late_o to_o our_o hand_n a_o book_n entitle_v a_o moderate_a enquiry_n into_o the_o warrantableness_n of_o the_o preach_n of_o gift_a and_o unordained_a person_n write_v by_o mr._n poole_n at_o the_o desire_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o some_o part_n of_o our_o book_n entitle_v the_o preacher_n sent._n we_o shall_v give_v some_o brief_a animadversion_n upon_o the_o most_o considerable_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n and_o
church_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 139._o and_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 25._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n and_o call_v the_o contrary_a a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o and_o how_o he_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o assertion_n or_o free_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o these_o expression_n we_o know_v not_o for_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o be_v made_n a_o church-member_n by_o baptism_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o how_o can_v one_o be_v a_o church-member_n fore_o baptism_n and_o yet_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n how_o can_v those_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n already_o be_v say_v without_o a_o loss_n of_o membership_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o it_o by_o any_o after_o act_v sure_o admission_n be_v of_o those_o 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capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 24._o answ_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o that_o sin_n which_o make_v the_o ejection_n just_a will_v make_v another_o church_n admission_n unjust_a yet_o mens_fw-la incapacity_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o church_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o their_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o those_o church_n but_o from_o the_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n as_o be_v perquisite_a to_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n he_o grant_v p._n 25._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o if_o he_o repent_v and_o become_v a_o officer_n again_o he_o must_v have_v a_o new_a ordination_n or_o else_o he_o may_v of_o no_o officer_n become_v a_o officer_n without_o ordination_n and_o so_o ordination_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o office_n that_o which_o follow_v pag._n 25._o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o be_v answer_v before_o that_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heathenism_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 289._o he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o yet_o charge_v we_o for_o obtrude_a uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o say_v pag._n 24._o they_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n and_o who_o make_v so_o little_a a_o matter_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o stumble_v at_o this_o notion_n and_o what_o be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o admission_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n will_v not_o be_v far_o from_o a_o proof_n of_o it_o our_o argument_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 292._o plain_o show_v that_o their_o assertion_n run_v 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about_o prophesy_v all_o that_o be_v prophet_n way_n ordinary_o and_o public_o preach_v 1_o corin._n 14._o v._n 23._o 24._o 29._o 31._o dr._n collings_n say_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 64._o not_o such_o gift_a man_n as_o now_o live_v be_v prophet_n to_o prove_v our_o minor_a that_o some_o man_n i._n e._n now_o live_v who_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n be_v prophet_n we_o lie_v down_o three_o proposition_n 1._o that_o prophecy_n be_v a_o gift_n not_o a_o office_n 2._o that_o prophesy_v be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v 3._o that_o some_o man_n who_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n have_v that_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 90._o dr._n collings_n pag._n 65._o repeat_v three_o of_o our_o argument_n and_o tell_v the_o reader_n that_o we_o bring_v they_o to_o prove_v that_o prophecy_n be_v a_o gift_n not_o a_o office_n and_o cry_v out_o of_o a_o pitiful_a non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereas_o we_o use_v those_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o last_o position_n 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so_o of_o any_o other_o church_n whereas_o office_n may_v not_o be_v so_o covet_v by_o every_o man_n who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o promise_v 2_o not_o possible_a to_o be_v obtain_v etc._n etc._n preach_v sent._n p._n 91._o 92._o obj._n dr._n collings_n pag._n 66._o 67._o etc._n etc._n say_v 1._o that_o god_n in_o the_o same_o moment_n clothe_v they_o with_o a_o extraordinary_a authority_n and_o furnish_v they_o with_o a_o extraordinary_a gift_n so_o he_o do_v jeremy_n amos_n etc._n etc._n 2._o that_o the_o same_o argument_n will_v prove_v it_o be_v no_o gift_n except_o a_o promise_n can_v be_v show_v thereof_o 3._o thing_n not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n shall_v be_v pray_v for_o with_o submission_n to_o god_n will_v etc._n etc._n 4._o they_o can_v be_v officer_n to_o that_o church_n but_o may_v be_v in_o time_n officer_n to_o other_o church_n there_o be_v no_o impossibility_n in_o this_o at_o all_o yea_o he_o say_v they_o ought_v to_o labour_v 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that_o pprophecy_n be_v no_o sign_n to_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o will_v thou_o say_v that_o prophecy_n may_v not_o be_v for_o the_o conversion_n of_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n prove_v it_o may_v v._o 24._o 25_o and_o do_v not_o dr._n collings_n confess_v it_o when_o the_o unbeliever_n go_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n pag._n 85._o if_o he_o suppose_v that_o we_o grant_v prophesy_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n but_o not_o for_o their_o conversion_n he_o be_v much_o mistake_v he_o may_v see_v it_o deny_v preacher_n sent._n p._n 102._o neither_o be_v there_o a_o syllable_n that_o way_n pag._n 115._o to_o which_o he_o be_v now_o reply_v we_o may_v conclude_v from_o his_o word_n and_o v._o 22._o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sign_n at_o all_o for_o that_o verse_n plain_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n to_o unbeliever_n and_o he_o say_v pag._n 84._o if_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n at_o all_o it_o must_v be_v for_o they_o who_o believe_v not_o and_o this_o confirm_v our_o argument_n pag._n 102._o and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o dr._n collings_n have_v not_o run_v into_o a_o self-contradiction_n in_o the_o follow_a expression_n of_o the_o same_o book_n 1._o the_o antithesis_fw-la 1_o cor._n 14._o 22._o he_o say_v lie_v here_o that_o tongue_n be_v for_o a_o sign_n to_o heathen_n that_o believe_v not_o but_o prophesy_v be_v a_o sign_n only_o for_o such_o as_o believe_v viz_o it_o be_v a_o act_n only_o to_o to_o be_v perform_v within_o the_o 1._o it_o be_v plain_a that_o if_o prophesy_v be_v for_o any_o sign_n it_o must_v be_v for_o unbeliever_n for_o believer_n need_v no_o sign_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 84._o now_o that_o prophecy_n shall_v be_v for_o their_o i._n e._n unbeliever_n pale_a of_o the_o churth_n this_o text_n only_o prove_v that_o pprophecy_n be_v no_o sign_n to_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o vind._n revind_n pag._n 73._o conversion_n and_o not_o a_o sign_n for_o it_o seem_v very_o harsh_a vind._n revind_n pag._n 85._o 2._o let_v any_o reader_n judge_n whether_o those_o word_n but_o prophesy_v not_o for_o those_o who_o believe_v not_o do_v not_o plain_o exclude_v the_o ordinance_n from_o any_o relation_n to_o unbeliever_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 84._o 2._o that_o v._o 25._o 26._o prove_v that_o prophecy_n be_v useful_a for_o the_o conversion_n of_o unbeliever_n we_o grant_v it_o but_o it_o be_v when_o the_o unbeliever_n come_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 85._o we_o hope_v dr._n collings_n understand_v by_o prophecy_n such_o prophecy_n as_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o first_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n otherwise_o we_o may_v tell_v he_o as_o he_o do_v we_o pag._n 65._o he_o deceive_v his_o reader_n with_o a_o equivocal_a word_n yea_o our_o present_a question_n be_v only_o about_o the_o prophecy_n speak_v of_o 1_o cor._n 14._o and_o we_o deny_v that_o this_o prophesy_v be_v for_o any_o sign_n either_o to_o believer_n or_o unbeliever_n as_o ordinary_a preach_n be_v now_o for_o the_o conversion_n of_o unbeliever_n yet_o be_v not_o a_o sign_n for_o it_o so_o be_v that_o prophesy_v for_o their_o conversion_n yet_o not_o a_o sign_n for_o it_o whereas_o he_o say_v pag_n 85._o prophecy_n be_v useful_a for_o the_o conversion_n of_o unbeliever_n but_o it_o be_v when_o the_o unbeliever_n come_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n not_o when_o the_o prophet_n go_v out_o to_o they_o v._o 23._o 24._o and_o add_v mark_v the_o prophet_n be_v tie_v up_o to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o place_n and_o then_o blame_v some_o for_o travel_v up_o and_o down_o the_o country_n and_o so_o pag._n 73._o 109._o we_o confess_v we_o wonder_v that_o dr._n collings_n shall_v profess_v himself_o to_o be_v of_o this_o mind_n be_v not_o this_o charge_v to_o be_v independentism_n in_o the_o height_n of_o it_o to_o tie_v up_o some_o gospel-administrations_a to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o place_n be_v there_o not_o as_o much_o ver_fw-la 23._o 24._o to_o tie_v up_o from_o go_v out_o to_o any_o other_o church_n assembly_n as_o from_o go_v out_o to_o unbeliever_n yea_o be_v there_o not_o as_o much_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 17._o 18._o 20._o 33._o to_o tie_v up_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o place_n as_o there_o be_v 1_o cor._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o 24._o to_o confine_v pprophecy_n to_o it_o yet_o will_v he_o not_o blame_v we_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v a_o pastor_n may_v administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o believer_n of_o other_o church_n when_o they_o come_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n but_o must_v not_o go_v out_o to_o they_o the_o assembly_n speak_v of_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n to_o member_n of_o another_o church_n tell_v we_o sure_o he_o i._n e._n a_o elder_a may_v as_o well_o do_v it_o when_o he_o go_v to_o they_o as_o when_o they_o come_v to_o he_o for_o it_o answ_n of_o the_o assem_fw-la pag._n 7._o and_o may_v not_o we_o say_v that_o the_o prophet_n may_v go_v 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pag_n 86._o to_o pag._n 90._o those_o that_o be_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n shall_v be_v so_o solemn_o set_v apart_o for_o that_o work_n and_o hence_o some_o who_o be_v no_o officer_n nor_o extraordinary_o gift_a may_v ordinary_o preach_v in_o public_a assembly_n and_o therefore_o preach_v be_v not_o a_o act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n and_o this_o answer_v his_o second_o argument_n p._n 90._o 91._o arg._n 2._o in_o our_o former_a book_n p._n 199._o we_o say_v distribution_n be_v material_o a_o 90._o vind._n revind_n pag._n 90._o act_n of_o a_o deacon_n office_n but_o not_o formal_o barnabas_n and_o saul_n distribute_v the_o church_n stock_n act._n 11._o vers_fw-la 29._o 30._o yet_o they_o be_v no_o deacon_n
that_o probationer_n who_o be_v no_o officer_n may_v preach_v if_o it_o shall_v be_v not_o ordinary_o but_o occasional_o or_o only_o once_o see_v they_o will_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o baptise_v so_o much_o as_o once_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v from_o their_o practice_n that_o if_o baptise_v be_v a_o act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v then_o preach_v be_v such_o and_o also_o that_o preach_a be_v not_o peculiar_a to_o office_n and_o so_o his_o except_v they_o out_o of_o the_o question_n can_v hinder_v the_o overthrow_n of_o his_o argument_n pag._n 92._o thereby_o that_o proper_a act_n quarto_fw-la modo_fw-la as_o he_o say_v these_o be_v pag._n 90._o shall_v admit_v of_o so_o much_o as_o one_o exception_n be_v strange_a logic_n and_o as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v they_o be_v peculiar_a to_o officer_n and_o yet_o not_o peculiar_a to_o they_o and_o therefore_o his_o exception_n pag._n 93_o can_v help_v he_o as_o to_o mat._n 28._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o we_o do_v not_o yet_o find_v that_o it_o be_v a_o office-making_a commission_n but_o a_o enlargement_n of_o the_o commission_n of_o officer_n to_o other_o person_n viz._n to_o the_o gentile_n if_o a_o man_n have_v two_o commission_n to_o the_o same_o work_n the_o latter_a may_v make_v he_o a_o officer_n to_o more_o person_n but_o do_v not_o make_v he_o more_o a_o officer_n then_o before_o and_o his_o instance_n pag._n 94._o about_o eject_v scandalous_a minister_n by_o one_o commission_n in_o norfolk_n by_o another_o in_o norwich_n amount_v to_o no_o more_o nor_o his_o second_o reply_n pag._n 94_o we_o may_v grant_v that_o this_o commission_n empowr_v they_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v preacher_n and_o baptizer_n but_o to_o preach_v to_o and_o baptize_v the_o gentile_n they_o do_v not_o of_o non-preacher_n become_v preacher_n by_o this_o commission_n and_o such_o a_o commission_n only_o be_v to_o the_o present_a question_n about_o gift_a man_n preach_v his_o three_o reply_n consist_v partly_o 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colonel_n captain_n etc._n etc._n prove_v it_o for_o the_o main_a end_n of_o establish_v justice_n of_o the_o peace_n be_v the_o conservation_n of_o the_o peace_n which_o other_o may_v endeavour_v who_o be_v no_o justice_n the_o main_a act_n of_o colonel_n and_o captain_n and_o the_o main_a end_n for_o which_o they_o be_v establish_v be_v fight_v with_o a_o enemy_n and_o every_o common_a soldier_n be_v bind_v to_o fight_v even_o in_o open_a field_n as_o well_o as_o they_o yet_o their_o office_n be_v not_o set_v up_o in_o vain_a as_o to_o that_o act_n if_o he_o shall_v say_v other_o do_v not_o act_v as_o justice_n in_o keep_v the_o peace_n or_o that_o common_a soldier_n do_v not_o command_v a_o regiment_n or_o company_n in_o fight_v we_o answer_v no_o more_o do_v gift_v man_n preach_v to_o a_o church_n as_o officer_n as_o pastor_n to_o it_o and_o reader_n know_v that_o he_o offer_v thou_o and_o we_o much_o wrong_n in_o tell_v thou_o pag._n 99_o that_o we_o say_v the_o preach_v of_o a_o 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of_o papist_n and_o socinian_n can_v raise_v such_o a_o dust_n as_o to_o blind_v thy_o eye_n thou_o will_v be_v in_o danger_n here_o to_o loose_v sight_n of_o the_o truth_n but_o that_o these_o charge_n be_v altogether_o groundless_a in_o the_o present_a case_n may_v appear_v 1._o because_o we_o do_v not_o distinguish_v they_o as_o papist_n do_v in_o the_o substance_n but_o only_o in_o the_o circumstance_n we_o do_v not_o say_v they_o be_v diverse_a kind_n of_o baptism_n but_o diverse_a in_o the_o manner_n of_o revelation_n and_o in_o this_o they_o who_o he_o cit_v against_o we_o be_v for_o we_o and_o chemnitius_n express_o treat_v of_o and_o assert_n the_o difference_n exam._n con._n trid._n can_v de_fw-fr bapt._n will_n dr._n collings_n say_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v distinguish_v unless_o it_o be_v diversify_v in_o kind_n be_v not_o a_o man_n in_o a_o marry_a state_n distinguish_v from_o himself_o in_o a_o single_a state_n be_v not_o the_o new_a moon_n distinguish_v from_o the_o old_a yet_o the_o same_o moon_n sure_o as_o well_o may_v johns_n baptism_n be_v distinguish_v from_o christ_n 2._o because_o many_o both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a writer_n who_o be_v neither_o papist_n nor_o socinian_n have_v assert_v the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o christ_n to_o be_v distinguish_v yea_o some_o of_o they_o have_v go_v further_a than_o we_o in_o this_o matter_n cyprian_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 250._o use_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d praeparabat_fw-la viam_fw-la domino_fw-la joannes_n lavando_fw-la exterius_fw-la corpora_fw-la ut_fw-la praecederet_fw-la exterius_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la secuturum_fw-la baptisma_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la conferretur_fw-la animarum_fw-la ablutio_fw-la &_o peccatorum_fw-la remissio_fw-la praecessit_fw-la quod_fw-la er_fw-mi at_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la ut_fw-la consummatio_fw-la sequeretur_fw-la cyprian_a de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o manifestatione_n trinitatis_fw-la page_n 436._o and_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n be_v tertullian_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_n a●●o_o aretius_n say_v ministerium_fw-la suum_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la distinguit_fw-la a_o christi_fw-la baptismo_fw-la ipse_fw-la vos_fw-la baptizabit_fw-la in_o spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la &_o igni_fw-la primum_fw-la fatetur_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la munus_fw-la utrique_fw-la esse_fw-la common_a say_v in_o se_fw-la plurimum_fw-la differre_fw-la etc._n etc._n aret._n in_o m●●_n 3._o v._n 11._o pa●_n 133._o piscator_fw-la in_o mat._n 3._o v._n 11._o pag._n 70._o discrimen_fw-la tantum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o circumstantia_fw-la temporis_fw-la quia_fw-la johannes_n baptizavit_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la manifestandum_fw-la act_n 19_o 4._o at_o apostoli_fw-la illorumque_fw-la successores_fw-la baptizarunt_fw-la &_o baptizant_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la jam_fw-la manifestatum_fw-la spanhem_n du●_n evang._n par_fw-fr 3._o pag._n 72._o 73._o gi_v a_o distinction_n and_o then_o say_v applicatio_fw-la distinctionis_fw-la est_fw-la eandem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la baptismi_fw-la johannis_n substantiam_fw-la essentiam_fw-la significationem_fw-la efficatiam_fw-la quae_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christi_fw-la discrimen_fw-la reperiri_fw-la tantum_fw-la in_o circumstantiis_fw-la &_o accidentalibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d pag._n 73._o in_o circumstantis_fw-la temporis_fw-la quia_fw-la baptismus_fw-la johannis_n anterior_a in_o modo_fw-la significationis_fw-la quia_fw-la baptizabat_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la venturum_fw-la in_fw-la efficatia_fw-la spiritus_fw-la quae_fw-la christo_fw-la jam_fw-la plene_fw-la manifesto_fw-la major_n &_o aliis_fw-la id_fw-la genus_fw-la calvin_n in_o act._n 19_o 4._o our_o baptism_n at_o this_o day_n do_v not_o differ_v any_o thing_n from_o it_o i._n e._n from_o johns_n baptism_n save_v only_o that_o christ_n be_v already_o reveal_v and_o in_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n our_o salvation_n be_v make_v perfect_a keckerman_n s●st_n theol._n l._n 3._o pag._n 453._o johannes_n baptismus_fw-la quoad_fw-la substantiam_fw-la idem_fw-la fuit_fw-la cum_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la ●●iamsitempore_o aut_fw-la aliis_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la circumstantiis_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ●iversus_fw-la to_o the_o same_o purpose_n speak_v vrsin_n catech_n
etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la and_o we_o allow_v the_o institution_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o people_n in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act_v 1_o he_o add_v that_o this_o doctrine_n render_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n lust_n and_o humour_n to_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o authority_n end_n and_o use_v of_o christ_n ambassador_n for_o now_o there_o be_v none_o but_o ordinary_a minister_n and_o he_o suppose_v but_o twenty_o congregation_n in_o the_o world_n and_o each_o of_o these_o may_v resolve_v several_o to_o eject_v their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o express_v in_o many_o word_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 32._o 33._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o have_v not_o confound_v but_o clear_o distinguish_v between_o nullify_a the_o office_n and_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o as_o he_o that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v any_o one_o read_v our_o book_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 268._o where_o we_o use_v these_o word_n this_o be_v but_o half_a a_o election_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o constitute_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n as_o appear_v because_o the_o choose_n of_o the_o one_o which_o be_v by_o god_n be_v the_o constitute_v act_n act_n 1._o 24._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o any_o one_o may_v see_v that_o we_o deny_v the_o apostle_n to_o be_v constitute_v by_o the_o church_n and_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v do_v we_o much_o injury_n in_o this_o report_n 3._o suppose_v a_o church_n murther_v its_o officer_n either_o he_o must_v say_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n after_o they_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v absurd_a or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n deny_v 4._o no_o supposition_n may_v be_v allow_v which_o impli_v a_o contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o officer_n set_v in_o it_o either_o the_o promise_n about_o officer_n or_o the_o church_n must_v fail_v if_o supposition_n against_o promise_n be_v allow_v and_o in_o what_o a_o sad_a condition_n than_o will_v the_o church_n be_v in_o for_o there_o will_v be_v none_o to_o appeal_v to_o and_o thus_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 34_o 35._o upon_o himself_o or_o we_o may_v suppose_v that_o persecutor_n be_v most_o of_o the_o world_n may_v murder_v that_o one_o congregation_n which_o he_o improper_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v but_o few_o its_o true_a the_o act_n will_v differ_v one_o be_v a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n the_o other_o a_o juridical_a act_n but_o both_o be_v equal_o possible_a and_o so_o a_o supposition_n may_v be_v take_v from_o one_o as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o other_o and_o therefore_o he_o can_v get_v nothing_o from_o such_o supposal_n the_o monstrous_a opinion_n follow_v upon_o his_o own_o principle_n suppose_v but_o twenty_o minister_n in_o the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n 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pag._n 35._o deny_v the_o major_a and_o say_v a_o minister_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n and_o add_v every_o apostle_n be_v a_o catholics_n pastor_n and_o so_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o but_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o major_n be_v little_o better_a than_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o very_a word_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v act_n 20._o 28._o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o flock_n over_o the_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v you_o overseer_n to_o feed_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o actual_a feed_n be_v enjoin_v and_o that_o not_o only_o some_o but_o all_o a_o man_n flock_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v say_v 2._o this_o do_v not_o answer_v our_o argument_n but_o leave_v we_o under_o a_o new_a seem_a difficulty_n 3._o if_o his_o reason_n shall_v be_v whole_o grant_v we_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o justify_v his_o denial_n of_o our_o major_n or_o take_v away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n and_o have_v he_o not_o leave_v out_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o syllogism_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v it_o himself_o for_o the_o utmost_a he_o can_v conclude_v from_o those_o premise_n be_v but_o this_o ergo_fw-la every_o catholic_a pastor_n who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o every_o catholic_a pastor_n or_o every_o one_o who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o will_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n may_v there_o not_o be_v some_o officer_n who_o have_v no_o such_o large_a flock_n and_o may_v stand_v under_o such_o obligation_n if_o every_o apostle_n 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office_n but_o only_o to_o office-work_n and_o therefore_o his_o ordination_n which_o come_v after_o do_v not_o give_v his_o call_n to_o office_n no_o more_o do_v it_o give_v it_o to_o any_o gospel_n officer_n in_o a_o proper_a sense_n ob._n 2._o they_o gassert_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n and_o to_o urge_v this_o they_o urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act_v 1._o as_o in_o that_o election_n so_o in_o this_o ordination_n some_o thing_n be_v extraordinary_a and_o peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n viz._n that_o the_o essence_n of_o their_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o this_o ordination_n pag_n 133._o answ_n 1._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n for_o we_o do_v not_o as_o he_o injurious_o report_v urge_v the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n act._n 1._o to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n lie_v in_o election_n we_o plain_o deny_v it_o preacher_n sent._n pag._n 267_o 268._o though_o we_o improve_v their_o objection_n from_o that_o text_n against_o themselves_o it_o be_v to_o prove_v another_o proposition_n that_o we_o urge_v act_n 1._o viz._n that_o the_o power_n of_o election_n belong_v to_o a_o church_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 216._o and_o therefore_o mr._n pool_n argument_n pag._n 133_o be_v nothing_o to_o we_o 2._o that_o it_o can_v be_v no_o good_a plea_n in_o this_o case_n to_o say_v it_o be_v extraordinory_n in_o that_o particular_a we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 252._o etc._n etc._n 255_o 256._o and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o complete_a ordination_n in_o all_o the_o act_n and_o requisite_n belong_v to_o it_o and_o yet_o not_o attain_v the_o main_a end_n which_o ●e_n suppose_v be_v the_o giving_z the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n to_o office_n who_o will_v believe_v it_o the_o apostle_n need_v not_o ordination_n if_o the_o use_n of_o that_o have_v be_v to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n 3._o this_o clear_o prove_v that_o a_o call_v to_o office_n and_o ordination_n be_v separable_a a_o call_n may_v be_v as_o here_o before_o and_o yet_o a_o complete_a ordination_n in_o all_o its_o act_n come_v afterward_o and_o therefore_o the_o intendment_n of_o ordination_n be_v not_o to_o give_v the_o essence_n unto_o a_o call_n to_o office_n ob._n 5._o peradventure_o paul_n have_v the_o essence_n of_o his_o call_n from_o his_o ordination_n man_n be_v use_v as_o instrument_n yet_o to_o speak_v proper_o it_o be_v not_o man_n but_o god_n that_o be_v paul_n ordainer_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v separate_v i_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 135._o ans_fw-fr 1._o this_o be_v gross_a for_o paul_n be_v a_o apostle_n divers_a year_n before_o this_o ordination_n that_o be_v after_o he_o have_v be_v at_o jerusalem_n act_v 12._o 25._o and_o 13._o v._o 2_o 3._o but_o god_n have_v reveal_v christ_n in_o he_o and_o make_v he_o a_o apostle_n above_o three_o year_n before_o
how_o these_o arguing_n agree_v we_o know_v not_o object_n 2._o no_o doubt_v they_o be_v the_o first-born_a that_o do_v lay_v hand_n on_o the_o levite_n ans_fw-fr this_o be_v full_o answer_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 344._o most_o that_o he_o say_v from_o pag._n 157_o to_o 161._o be_v either_o inconsiderable_a or_o answrable_a or_o answer_v before_o object_n 1._o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n of_o the_o people_n concurrence_n in_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n p._n 158._o paul_n in_o all_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n about_o ordination_n sure_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v argumentative_a p._n 159._o ans_fw-fr if_o this_o will_v stand_v many_o of_o his_o principle_n must_v fall_v for_o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n in_o holy_a write_v of_o the_o subordination_n of_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o point_n of_o government_n unto_o assembly_n make_v up_o of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n nor_o of_o the_o subordination_n of_o synod_n one_o to_o another_o nor_o of_o its_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o be_v mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o nay_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o scripture_n for_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o upon_o a_o ordinary_a call_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v as_o much_o argumentative_a in_o case_n a_o church_n have_v no_o officer_n in_o it_o against_o ordination_n by_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n our_o officer_n as_o against_o ordination_n by_o the_o people_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n baptise_v and_o not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o their_o ordain_v and_o not_o the_o people_n pag._n 158._o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v reason_n against_o the_o people_n baptise_v which_o be_v not_o fetch_v from_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v and_o which_o speak_v not_o against_o the_o people_n act_v in_o ordination_n 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evidence_n that_o stumbler_n at_o and_o opposer_n of_o the_o word_n in_o respect_n of_o he_o that_o teach_v may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v teach_v this_o be_v all_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o as_o any_o reader_n may_v see_v and_o this_o it_o clear_o prove_v that_o no_o mere_a man_n can_v be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o we_o prove_v but_o it_o be_v by_o other_o medium_n not_o by_o that_o text_n neither_o can_v any_o inferrence_n be_v draw_v from_o our_o word_n against_o christ_n be_v a_o officer_n to_o such_o especial_o see_v christ_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a person_n even_o the_o lawmaker_n and_o determiner_n who_o man_n shall_v be_v officer_n to_o as_o to_o the_o apostle_n in_o a_o large_a sense_n they_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n but_o not_o officer_n over_o they_o or_o in_o a_o strict_a sense_n as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o this_o book_n ch._n 7._o 2._o the_o second_o we_o own_o if_o the_o rest_n of_o our_o word_n be_v add_v to_o it_o neither_o have_v he_o disprove_v it_o we_o will_v 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selfe-contradicting_a passage_n we_o answer_v 1._o we_o can_v find_v nothing_o like_o a_o contradiction_n in_o our_o word_n if_o pag._n 20_o and_o 149._o be_v compare_v for_o if_o a_o man_n may_v lawful_o preach_v yet_o may_v there_o not_o be_v divers_a thing_n pre-required_n unto_o his_o preach_v here_o or_o there_o may_v not_o a_o man_n have_v power_n to_o preach_v and_o yet_o want_v requisite_n unto_o the_o exercise_n of_o that_o power_n in_o this_o or_o that_o place_n do_v not_o they_o say_v a_o man_n may_v have_v power_n and_o yet_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o or_o a_o special_a call_n may_v not_o exercise_v that_o power_n in_o such_o a_o place_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 144_o do_v not_o mr._n pool_n express_o assert_v it_o pag._n 6._o yea_o he_o say_v pag._n 48._o it_o be_v true_a no_o preacher_n be_v in_o scripture_n oblige_v to_o preach_v in_o such_o or_o such_o a_o place_n etc._n etc._n what_o do_v we_o say_v more_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 163._o 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lin_v 14._o &_o this_o he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v though_o it_o be_v not_o print_v in_o a_o different_a character_n and_o now_o we_o shall_v put_v mr._n pool_n in_o mind_n of_o some_o of_o he_o 1._o novel_a and_o strange_a passage_n 2._o selfe-contradiction_n 3._o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n who_o case_n he_o plead_v &_o the_o dr._n 1._o novel_a &_o strange_a passage_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n though_o he_o have_v no_o particular_a church_n to_o which_o he_o stand_v relate_v p._n 11._o &_o by_o minister_n he_o intend_v a_o officer_n pag._n 10._o 2._o he_o say_v that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n pag._n 13._o and_o therefore_o be_v the_o object_n and_o
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not_o grant_v it_o in_o his_o sense_n 2._o suppose_v there_o be_v such_o a_o church_n we_o deny_v that_o any_o institution_n of_o christ_n have_v determine_v ordinary_a officer_n to_o have_v a_o general_a respect_n as_o officer_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o so_o his_o infrance_n of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n and_o the_o empire_n come_v to_o nothing_o 3_o a_o peculiar_a respect_n to_o some_o one_o church_n be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o same_o relation_n to_o a_o other_o for_o nothing_o be_v peculiar_a but_o that_o which_o be_v appropriate_v israel_n be_v god_n peculiar_a people_n that_o be_v his_o only_a as_o to_o his_o instance_n about_o sheep_n we_o say_v if_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sheep_n choose_v the_o twenty_o shepherd_n and_o commit_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o sheep_n to_o they_o than_o the_o actual_a care_n of_o every_o sheep_n be_v upon_o every_o one_o and_o if_o but_o one_o sheep_n be_v lose_v every_o shepherd_n will_v fall_v under_o blame_n neither_o will_v the_o distribute_v the_o sheep_n into_o twenty_o parcel_n though_o some_o be_v careful_a of_o their_o parcel_n excuse_v any_o from_o blame_n the_o distribution_n or_o division_n be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o shepherd_n according_a to_o his_o infrance_n not_o the_o act_n of_o the_o master_n if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v thus_o commit_v to_o officer_n than_o every_o officer_n will_v be_v unblamable_a for_o the_o wander_n of_o any_o one_o member_n of_o that_o church_n though_o their_o habitation_n be_v thousand_o of_o mile_n distant_a each_o from_o other_o but_o christ_n have_v commit_v only_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o flock_n of_o his_o sheep_n to_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o one_o of_o his_o officer_n and_o if_o other_o not_o of_o a_o man_n own_o flock_n do_v miscarry_v his_o not_o seek_v their_o reducement_n to_o the_o utmost_a of_o his_o ability_n and_o opportunity_n be_v a_o sin_n against_o charity_n but_o not_o against_o his_o office_n according_a to_o any_o gosple_n rule_n that_o yet_o we_o can_v find_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v not_o rebaked_a for_o the_o miscarriage_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n nor_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o pergamus_n or_o thyatira_n or_o sardis_n revel_v 2_o and_o 3._o but_o every_o angel_n be_v reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n which_o he_o be_v set_v over_o as_o to_o his_o instance_n of_o the_o german_a empire_n page_n 8._o we_o say_v it_o have_v a_o vast_a disparity_n in_o it_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n for_o there_o be_v no_o act_n to_o be_v perform_v in_o the_o church_n to_o make_v a_o double_a relation_n necessary_a answerable_a to_o those_o in_o the_o empire_n if_o no_o emperor_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v or_o act_n of_o general_a concernment_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n as_o such_o to_o be_v exert_v those_o prince_n or_o elector_n will_v not_o sustain_v any_o such_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n and_o there_o be_v no_o universal_a church-officer_n to_o be_v choose_v or_o any_o act_n of_o institute_v worship_n to_o be_v perform_v which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o a_o universal_a church_n as_o such_o hence_o the_o case_n be_v vast_o different_a and_o also_o it_o be_v very_o improbable_a that_o such_o a_o order_n shall_v be_v of_o christ_n appointment_n they_o have_v not_o one_o by_o systeme_n of_o law_n neither_o be_v these_o elector_n or_o prince_n entrust_v with_o a_o joint-power_n for_o the_o ordinary_a government_n of_o the_o whole_a but_o every_o free_a prince_n have_v power_n to_o make_v what_o law_n he_o will_v and_o if_o he_o will_v allow_v every_o congregational_a church_n as_o entire_a a_o power_n within_o itself_o as_o every_o of_o those_o prince_n have_v within_o his_o own_o territory_n we_o suppose_v no_o power_n beyond_o that_o will_v belong_v to_o any_o but_o christ_n himself_o ob._n the_o apostle_n be_v pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n yet_o the_o work_n be_v divide_v among_o they_o and_o they_o undertake_v aspeciall_a relation_n to_o some_o particular_a part_n as_o peter_z to_o the_o jew_n and_o paul_n to_o the_o gentile_n james_n to_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag_n 8._o ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n 2._o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o the_o lord_n where_o to_o labour_v in_o the_o work_n of_o their_o office_n act._n 13._o 4._o act._n 16._o 9_o act._n 10._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o yea_o that_o commit_v of_o the_o jew_n to_o peter_n and_o of_o the_o gentile_n to_o paul_n seem_v to_o be_v by_o immediate_a ducture_n from_o the_o spirit_n gal_n 2._o ver_fw-la 7._o he_o that_o wrought_v effectual_o in_o peter_n to_o the_o apostleship_n of_o the_o circumcision_n the_o same_o be_v mighty_a in_o i_o towards_o the_o gentile_n the_o lord_n make_v such_o a_o division_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v sufficient_a to_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o act_v in_o office-work_n elsewhere_o until_o fresh_a instruction_n come_v but_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v no_o such_o direction_n from_o the_o lord_n or_o any_o thing_n equivalent_a to_o they_o and_o so_o be_v oblige_v to_o perform_v act_n of_o office_n to_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n and_o sin_n if_o they_o do_v not_o according_a to_o he_o for_o they_o have_v no_o dispensation_n from_o the_o lord_n for_o act_v in_o any_o and_o without_o that_o they_o must_v act_v to_o the_o utmost_a bound_n of_o their_o relation_n 3._o apostle_n be_v not_o so_o limit_v and_o confine_v in_o their_o office_n unto_o those_o which_o especial_o be_v commit_v to_o they_o as_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v to_o their_o particular_a church_n the_o gospel_n of_o the_o uncircumcision_n be_v commit_v to_o paul_n and_o the_o gospel_n
of_o the_o circumcision_n unto_o peter_n gal._n 2._o v._n 7._o but_o yet_o paul_n to_o use_v mr._n pool_n word_n though_o improper_a be_v actual_o immediate_o and_o absolute_o a_o officer_n at_o the_o same_o time_n to_o the_o jew_n hence_o he_o be_v often_o execute_v his_o office_n among_o the_o jew_n as_o act._n 21._o ver_fw-la 15._o 17._o 18._o etc._n etc._n and_o he_o say_v express_o the_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n be_v upon_o he_o daily_o 2_o cor._n 11._o ver_fw-la 28._o ergo_fw-la he_o have_v a_o actual_a relation_n to_o the_o jewish_a as_o well_o as_o the_o gentile_a church_n even_o to_o all_o the_o church_n and_o so_o no_o double_a relation_n do_v arise_v by_o his_o be_v the_o apostle_n of_o the_o gentile_n but_o as_o a_o father_n have_v many_o child_n with_o family_n of_o their_o own_o may_v abide_v and_o continue_v long_o with_o some_o of_o they_o then_o with_o other_o yet_o stand_v in_o the_o same_o relation_n of_o a_o father_n to_o all_o so_o the_o apostle_n though_o they_o do_v abide_v more_o with_o some_o church_n then_o with_o other_o yet_o no_o distinct_a relation_n be_v introduce_v thereby_o and_o therefore_o this_o instance_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n for_o the_o relation_n of_o ordinary_a officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v such_o that_o if_o they_o have_v a_o relation_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n it_o will_v not_o be_v the_o same_o but_o another_o and_o so_o distinct_a that_o themselves_o assert_v a_o double_a relation_n and_o that_o one_o viz._n that_o to_o the_o church_n universal_a last_v though_o his_o particular_a relation_n cease_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n p._n 151._o neither_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o all_o the_o apostle_n have_v some_o church_n more_o especial_o assign_v to_o they_o than_o other_o and_o those_o that_o have_v not_o must_v needs_o be_v as_o he_o phrase_v it_o actual_o and_o equal_o relate_v to_o all_o church_n and_o without_o any_o such_o double_a relation_n but_o be_v 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the_o rule_v of_o more_o than_o he_o can_v teach_v or_o o●_n more_o than_o a_o particular_a church_n we_o can_v find_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n for_o any_o such_o thing_n and_o without_o that_o edification_n will_v not_o be_v a_o rule_n sufficient_a to_o warrant_v the_o act_n in_o church-administrations_a when_o every_o thing_n may_v lawful_o be_v do_v that_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v do_v than_o this_o argue_v will_v be_v good_a 2._o it_o be_v not_o prove_v that_o any_o act_n of_o rule_n or_o government_n be_v put_v forth_o act._n 15._o and_o there_o be_v no_o syllable_n of_o proof_n that_o the_o apostle_n power_n of_o government_n be_v more_o extensive_a than_o their_o teach_a power_n so_o much_o as_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o he_o proceed_v to_o lay_v down_o some_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n to_o more_o than_o their_o own_o particular_a church_n argu._n 1._o if_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a 10._o mr._n poole_n p._n 10._o heathen_n than_o they_o be_v no●_n officer_n only_o to_o their_o particular_a congregation_n but_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n to_o prove_v his_o minor_a he_o say_v 1._o that_o apostles_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v be_v undeniable_a 2_o such_o be_v clear_o express_v mat._n 28._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o to_o be_v the_o primary_n and_o immediate_a object_n of_o the_o apostical_a office_n and_o relation_n answ_n 1._o there_o be_v multitude_n baptize_v by_o john_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n mat._n 3._o ver_fw-la 5_o 6._o and_o either_o there_o must_v be_v some_o visible_a gospel_n church_n then_o erect_v to_o which_o these_o baptise_a person_n be_v relate_v and_o then_o his_o argument_n be_v untrue_a or_o else_o that_o must_v be_v a_o truth_n which_o he_o call_v a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o viz._n that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n for_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o and_o so_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o that_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o if_o no_o gospel_n church_n be_v at_o this_o time_n erect_v than_o their_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v they_o into_o any_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o many_o do_v visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n or_o have_v that_o mission_n mat._n 28._o therefore_o either_o his_o argument_n p._n 29._o must_v be_v false_a or_o else_o this_o his_o position_n p._n 10._o that_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v can_v be_v true_a of_o which_o he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n and_o undeniable_a 3._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v preserve_v in_o the_o apostle_n in_o case_n all_o convert_v christian_n have_v dye_v as_o he_o suppose_v pag._n 10._o how_o can_v he_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o have_v a_o be_v the_o apostle_n have_v a_o be_v in_o who_o he_o say_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 4._o we_o desire_v our_o distinction_n former_o mention_v may_v be_v remember_v we_o grant_v the_o apostle_n be_v and_o other_o be_v in_o a_o general_a sense_n officer_n to_o heathen_n but_o we_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v or_o that_o other_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n in_o a_o special_a sense_n namely_o as_o over_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n and_o this_o answer_v his_o supposition_n pag._n 10._o of_o christian_n die_v and_o none_o remain_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o but_o heathen_n and_o also_o take_v off_o his_o charge_n against_o we_o in_o the_o same_o page_n for_o deny_v apostle_n to_o be_v officer_n unto_o heathen_n 5._o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n and_o therefore_o all_o he_o say_v be_v beside_o the_o question_n if_o apostles_n be_v before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v and_o if_o apostle_n act_v as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n yet_o see_v they_o be_v extraordinary_a officer_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v thence_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v as_o officer_n towards_o convertible_a heathen_n object_n apostle_n and_o pastor_n be_v parallel_v in_o this_o case_n ephes_n 4._o vers_fw-la 11._o 12._o etc._n etc._n the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o its_o latitude_n be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la or_o the_o object_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v heathen_n therefore_o heathen_n to_o be_v convert_v be_v the_o object_n and_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_a office_n that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n he_o think_v evident_a they_o be_v call_v his_o sheep_n joh._n 10._o ver_fw-la 16._o he_o lay_v down_o his_o life_n for_o they_o which_o he_o do_v only_o for_o his_o body_n eph._n 5._o etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 12._o 13._o answ_n 1._o if_o by_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n eph._n 4._o ver_fw-la 11._o 12._o we_o must_v as_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 12._o necessary_o understand_v the_o whole_a collection_n of_o all_o christ_n member_n in_o all_o age_n of_o the_o church_n all_o which_o in_o scripture_n phrase_n go_v to_o the_o make_v up_o of_o christ_n body_n etc._n etc._n then_o it_o be_v the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v intend_v consist_v of_o the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o elect_a redeem_v justify_v or_o sanctify_a one_o and_o these_o only_a and_o if_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v heathen_n and_o visible_o unconvert_v one_o as_o mr._n poole_n suppose_v it_o do_v here_o than_o it_o must_v be_v take_v in_o this_o sense_n but_o that_o minister_n shall_v be_v officer_n or_o act_v as_o officer_n to_o this_o mystical_a