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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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and_o so_o it_o be_v make_v with_o the_o wicked_a of_o noah_n seed_n and_o even_o with_o the_o beast_n of_o the_o field_n yet_o do_v it_o import_v a_o special_a favour_n to_o noah_n and_o his_o seed_n as_o one_o who_o god_n will_v show_v a_o more_o special_a respect_n to_o as_o he_o have_v do_v in_o his_o deliverance_n and_o upon_o this_o special_a favour_n to_o he_o the_o creature_n fare_v the_o better_a for_o though_o the_o word_n covenant_n be_v the_o same_o to_o man_n and_o beast_n yet_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o promissory_n and_o his_o capacity_n may_v put_v a_o different_a sense_n on_o the_o same_o word_n as_o apply_v to_o each_o and_o indeed_o it_o shall_v seem_v but_o a_o sad_a blessing_n to_o noah_n to_o hear_v a_o increase_n and_o multiply_v if_o all_o his_o infant_n posterity_n must_v be_v cast_v or_o leave_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o leave_v as_o common_a or_o unclean_a this_o be_v to_o increase_v and_o multiply_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n if_o he_o that_o be_v so_o merciful_o house_v in_o the_o ark_n with_o all_o his_o child_n must_v now_o be_v so_o blessed_v as_o to_o have_v all_o their_o issue_n to_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a change_n in_o god_n and_o a_o strange_a blessing_n on_o noah_n and_o a_o uncomfortable_a stablish_n of_o a_o covenant_n with_o his_o seed_n if_o all_o that_o seed_n must_v be_v so_o thrust_v from_o god_n and_o deal_v with_o as_o the_o seed_n of_o curse_a cain_n moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o noah_n do_v prophetical_o or_o at_o least_o true_o pronounce_v the_o blessing_n on_o shem_n and_o japhet_n and_o in_o shems_n blessing_n he_o bless_v the_o lord_n his_o god_n show_v that_o god_n be_v his_o god_n and_o so_o in_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o the_o person_n but_o the_o posterity_n of_o his_o three_o son_n that_o noah_n here_o intend_v it_o be_v not_o cham_n himself_o so_o much_o as_o canaan_n and_o his_o succeed_a posterity_n that_o be_v to_o be_v servant_n to_o shem_n and_o japhet_n that_o be_v to_o their_o posterity_n and_o the_o blessing_n must_v be_v to_o the_o issue_n of_o shem_n as_o well_o as_o the_o curse_n to_o the_o issue_n of_o cham._n and_o indeed_o a_o hebrew_n doctor_n will_v take_v it_o ill_o at_o that_o expositor_n or_o divine_a whatsoever_o that_o shall_v presume_v to_o exclude_v the_o infant_n seed_n of_o they_o out_o of_o god_n church_n and_o well_o they_o may_v if_o in_o the_o blessing_n god_n be_v pronounce_v to_o be_v their_o god_n say_v ainsworth_n in_o loc_n under_o this_o shem_n also_o himself_o receive_v a_o blessing_n for_o bless_a be_v the_o people_n who_o god_n jehovah_n be_v psal_n 144.15_o and_o eternal_a life_n be_v imply_v herein_o for_o god_n have_v pre-prepared_n for_o they_o a_o city_n of_o who_o he_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o be_v call_v their_o god_n heb._n 11.16_o and_o shem_n be_v the_o first_o man_n in_o scripture_n that_o have_v express_o this_o honour_n moreover_o in_o gen._n 9.27_o in_o japhets_n blessing_n there_o be_v much_o though_o in_o few_o word_n to_o this_o purpose_n intimate_v first_o note_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v call_v the_o tent_n of_o shem._n from_o whence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n privilege_n of_o that_o people_n begin_v not_o with_o or_o from_o abraham_n but_o be_v before_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n that_o be_v of_o shem_n and_o of_o abraham_n and_o after_o all_o the_o additional_a promise_n to_o abraham_n the_o jewish_a church_n be_v still_o denominate_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n now_o they_o be_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n before_o abraham_n day_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o have_v the_o same_o sort_n of_o member_n or_o material_n and_o therefore_o infant_n must_v be_v member_n before_o abraham_n day_n as_o well_o as_o after_o that_o church_n which_o be_v shems_n tent_n have_v infant_n church-member_n for_o the_o jew_n church_n be_v so_o call_v into_o which_o japhet_n be_v to_o pass_v but_o the_o church_n both_o before_o and_o after_o abraham_n be_v shems_n tent_n ergo._fw-la yet_o further_o let_v it_o here_o be_v note_v that_o it_o be_v into_o shems_n tent_n that_o japhet_n must_v pass_v i_o suppose_v that_o the_o evidence_n be_v better_a here_o for_o that_o exposition_n that_o apply_v the_o word_n dwell_v to_o japhet_n than_o to_o god_n and_o so_o that_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o gentile_n as_o many_o expositor_n have_v clear_v at_o large_a and_o so_o as_o ainsworth_n say_v the_o sense_n be_v that_o japhet_n shall_v be_v unite_a with_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o posterity_n of_o shem_n which_o be_v fulfil_v when_o the_o gentile_n become_v joynt-heir_n and_o of_o the_o same_o body_n and_o joynt-partaker_n of_o god_n promise_n in_o christ_n the_o stop_n of_o the_o partition-wall_n be_v break_v down_o etc._n etc._n ephes_n 3.6_o 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visible_a church-membership_a and_o he_o say_v that_o without_o the_o church_n a_o person_n may_v be_v pronounce_v bless_v be_v apparent_a from_o ishmaels_n blessing_n gen._n 17.20_o when_o he_o be_v exclude_v the_o covenant_n and_o cast_v out_o reply_n he_o be_v exclude_v the_o covenant_n of_o peculiarity_n but_o not_o the_o common_a covenant_n of_o grace_n make_v with_o mankind_n in_o adam_n and_o no_n and_o the_o church_n be_v large_a than_o the_o israelite_n nation_n the_o rest_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o reader_n sect_n xciv_o xcv_o r._n b._n if_o you_o say_v that_o the_o word_n seed_n do_v not_o necessary_o include_v infant_n i_o answer_v infant_n be_v part_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o righteous_a yea_o all_o their_o seed_n be_v first_o infant_n if_o therefore_o god_n have_v make_v general_a promise_n as_o to_o age_n and_o person_n who_o be_v he_o that_o dare_v limit_v it_o without_o just_a proof_n that_o indeed_o god_n have_v limit_v it_o do_v god_n say_v that_o the_o seed_n of_o 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i_o unsatisfied_a and_o also_o because_o one_o text_n either_o contain_v such_o a_o law_n or_o covenant_n as_o you_o call_v for_o or_o declare_v to_o we_o that_o god_n do_v make_v such_o a_o law_n or_o covenant_n be_v as_o good_a as_o a_o thousand_o in_o point_n of_o authority_n mr._n t._n mr._n b._n not_o hold_v child_n in_o the_o womb_n unborn_a to_o be_v visible_a church-member_n all_o this_o may_v be_v retort_v they_o be_v part_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o righteous_a reply_n the_o whole_a seed_n in_o the_o womb_n and_o bear_v be_v take_v into_o this_o relation_n to_o god_n which_o imply_v his_o blessing_n on_o they_o as_o separate_v from_o the_o wicked_a according_a to_o their_o capacity_n a_o infant_n in_o the_o womb_n be_v visible_o separate_v to_o god_n if_o you_o denominate_v visibility_n from_o the_o notoriety_n or_o visibility_n of_o god_n promise_n that_o do_v it_o but_o the_o person_n be_v not_o visible_a to_o you_o though_o sensible_a to_o the_o mother_n as_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n in_o the_o womb_n so_o far_o infant_n be_v member_n the_o parent_n then_o private_o devote_v they_o to_o god_n i_o tell_v you_o before_o the_o visibility_n of_o our_o state_n have_v several_a gradation_n to_o quibble_n thus_o on_o all_o god_n promise_n to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a by_o question_n and_o exception_n about_o embryo_n abortive_n etc._n etc._n be_v vanity_n sect_n xcvi_o xcvii_o r._n b._n the_o next_o question_n that_o i_o spould_v speak_v to_o be_v whether_o these_o law_n or_o covenant_n or_o promise_n be_v capable_a of_o a_o revocation_n or_o repeal_n and_o i_o shall_v take_v this_o for_o a_o question_n that_o need_v no_o further_a debate_n among_o man_n that_o know_v what_o a_o law_n or_o promise_n be_v god_n immutability_n and_o perfection_n may_v make_v some_o law_n unrepealable_a while_o the_o subject_n remain_v but_o otherwise_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v capable_a of_o it_o only_o where_o a_o promise_n or_o law_n be_v but_o for_o a_o limit_a time_n when_o the_o time_n be_v expire_v it_o cease_v and_o the_o cessation_n be_v as_o to_o the_o null_n of_o it_o equal_a to_o a_o revocation_n or_o abrogation_n i_o put_v in_o this_o question_n lest_o you_o shall_v hereafter_o change_v your_o mind_n and_o say_v that_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o law_n or_o promise_n or_o covenant_n by_o which_o the_o right_a of_o church-membership_a be_v confer_v and_o infant_n dedicate_v to_o god_n but_o it_o be_v but_o a_o transeunt_fw-la law_n or_o covenant_n answ_n if_o so_o than_o it_o be_v either_o immediate_o or_o present_o transeunt_fw-la or_o at_o a_o certain_a limit_a time_n only_o when_o it_o will_v cease_v the_o former_a be_v certain_o false_a and_o intolerable_a for_o 1._o they_o be_v promise_n and_o law_n for_o the_o future_a and_o therefore_o cease_v not_o immediate_o 2._o that_o be_v to_o make_v god_n the_o most_o unfaithful_a promise_n and_o mutable_a lawmaker_n in_o the_o world_n if_o his_o promise_n and_o his_o law_n cease_v as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v make_v nay_o it_o make_v they_o to_o be_v no_o law_n or_o promise_n 3._o it_o be_v one_o stand_a law_n and_o promise_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o jew_n successive_o and_o god_n do_v not_o make_v his_o promise_n anew_o to_o every_o infant_n that_o be_v make_v a_o church-member_n nor_o renew_v his_o law_n to_o every_o parent_n to_o enter_v their_o child_n into_o his_o covenant_n by_o the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n be_v not_o the_o uncircumcised_a israelite_n in_o the_o wilderness_n make_v member_n by_o the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o former_a covenant_n of_o god_n remain_v in_o force_n and_o do_v former_a law_n oblige_v to_o circumcision_n till_o christ_n else_o there_o be_v but_o few_o member_n nor_o but_o few_o that_o circumcise_a warrantable_o if_o the_o promise_n and_o precept_n do_v extend_v but_o to_o the_o person_n that_o it_o be_v first_o deliver_v to_o and_o every_o one_o else_o must_v likewise_o have_v a_o personal_a promise_n and_o precept_n the_o mother_n of_o christ_n can_v then_o be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v a_o church-member_n in_o infancy_n if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o these_o promise_n be_v limit_v in_o the_o make_n of_o they_o to_o a_o certain_a time_n when_o they_o be_v to_o cease_v i_o say_v when_o that_o be_v prove_v we_o shall_v believe_v it_o which_o i_o have_v not_o yet_o see_v do_v and_o it_o fall_v in_o with_o the_o last_o question_n which_o be_v whether_o these_o promise_n be_v indeed_o revoke_v and_o cease_v and_o these_o law_n repeal_v or_o cease_v and_o here_o it_o be_v that_o i_o have_v long_o expect_v your_o solid_a proof_n together_o with_o the_o satisfactory_a answer_n to_o my_o argument_n to_o the_o contrary_n and_o so_o i_o shall_v leave_v this_o task_n in_o your_o hand_n sure_o i_o be_o that_o christ_n never_o come_v to_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o gather_v more_o in_o much_o less_o to_o cast_v out_o all_o the_o infant_n even_o all_o of_o that_o age_n in_o which_o 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they_o have_v will_v that_o prove_v that_o the_o novatian_o be_v seven_o hundred_o or_o eight_o hundred_o year_n before_o §_o 29._o next_o he_o cit_v as_o cassander_n reason_n against_o he_o that_o the_o donatist_n be_v for_o infant-baptism_n the_o six_o council_n of_o carthage_n say_v that_o all_o that_o return_v from_o the_o donatist_n shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o catholic_n church_n without_o rebaptisation_n though_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n and_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o supposition_n at_o best_a that_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n or_o they_o may_v not_o and_o can_v signify_v nothing_o against_o all_o the_o former_a evidence_n and_o be_v it_o not_o shame_n and_o pity_n that_o so_o public_a matter_n of_o fact_n must_v be_v handle_v at_o this_o rate_n what_o be_v his_o former_a evidence_n but_o such_o as_o humane_a nature_n may_v blush_v at_o to_o find_v that_o one_o call_v a_o man_n and_o a_o christian_a and_o too_o good_a for_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o 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the_o asian_a legion_n or_o who_o else_o be_v not_o know_v and_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v not_o against_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n for_o both_o they_o and_o the_o scot_n that_o concur_v with_o they_o against_o the_o roman_n do_v strict_o keep_v it_o but_o all_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o due_a time_n §_o 31._o nor_o be_v there_o the_o least_o proof_n or_o probability_n that_o they_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n 1._o because_o augustine_n the_o monk_n that_o quarrel_v with_o they_o never_o charge_v they_o with_o it_o in_o his_o ep._n to_o gregory_n or_o to_o themselves_o 2._o beda_n that_o be_v downright_o against_o they_o and_o a_o roman_a zealot_n and_o the_o ancient_a writer_n after_o augustine_n time_n and_o live_v in_o the_o same_o country_n with_o they_o and_o know_v they_o and_o describe_v all_o the_o contest_v with_o they_o yet_o never_o lay_v any_o such_o thing_n to_o their_o charge_n when_o yet_o he_o mention_v the_o rebaptise_v of_o one_o 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be_v false_a that_o the_o old_a britain_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n it_o will_v inform_v these_o man_n that_o it_o be_v not_o delay_v baptism_n till_o ripe_a age_n that_o will_v keep_v it_o from_o formality_n nor_o the_o church_n from_o fall_v into_o all_o impiety_n for_o if_o our_o elder_a historian_n gildas_n may_v be_v believe_v and_o who_o may_v if_o not_o he_o his_o countryman_n the_o britain_n be_v prince_n priest_n and_o people_n fall_v to_o such_o abominable_a wickedness_n murder_n drunkenness_n filthy_a lust_n deceit_n theft_n cruelty_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o take_v the_o prince_n for_o wolf_n and_o monster_n and_o the_o priest_n for_o no_o priest_n but_o traitor_n except_v some_o good_a man_n among_o they_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v neither_o infant_n nor_o adult_n baptism_n that_o will_v secure_v against_o the_o corrupt_a of_o church_n but_o grace_n with_o either_o have_v save_v soul_n §_o 34._o he_o cite_v himself_o here_o fox_n quote_v beda_n polychron_n and_o 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4._o and_o it_o be_v never_o the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n to_o lay_v so_o much_o on_o the_o outward_a wash_n as_o many_o papist_n and_o anabaptist_n do_v but_o as_o the_o uncircumcised_a infant_n in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v nevertheless_o church-member_n and_o save_v so_o when_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n by_o the_o parent_n true_a and_o know_a consent_n their_o damnation_n be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v upon_o their_o die_v unbaptise_v by_o surprise_n 5._o but_o yet_o obedience_n to_o god_n be_v necessary_a many_o parent_n hasten_v their_o child_n baptism_n at_o two_o or_o three_o day_n old_a other_o staid_a till_o the_o eight_o day_n other_o longer_z and_o multitude_n have_v child_n that_o be_v in_o several_a degree_n enter_v on_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n when_o the_o parent_n be_v convert_v and_o it_o remain_v doubtful_a whether_o they_o be_v as_o to_o the_o covenant_n at_o their_o parent_n choice_n or_o their_o own_o and_o to_o this_o day_n there_o want_v not_o those_o that_o think_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o institute_v to_o be_v the_o ordinary_a initiate_a sacrament_n of_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n but_o only_o of_o proselyte_n and_o that_o christian_n infant_n take_v their_o place_n in_o the_o church_n of_o course_n but_o proselyte_n from_o without_o only_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a though_o this_o be_v a_o error_n it_o be_v probable_a that_o there_o be_v some_o then_o as_o well_o as_o now_o of_o that_o opinion_n but_o nothing_o more_o occasion_v as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v find_v the_o delay_n of_o baptism_n than_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o danger_n of_o sin_v after_o it_o especial_o of_o apostasy_n all_o hold_v that_o all_o sin_n past_o be_v pardon_v in_o baptism_n and_o heb._n 6._o and_o 10._o and_o other_o text_n and_o the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n make_v they_o think_v it_o a_o very_a perilous_a thing_n to_o sin_n wilful_o after_o illumination_n and_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o abundance_n delay_v their_o own_o baptism_n till_o age_n and_o many_o be_v backward_o to_o baptise_v their_o child_n lest_o childish_a folly_n and_o youthful_a lust_n and_o worldly_a temptation_n shall_v draw_v they_o to_o trample_v upon_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o on_o such_o account_n all_o be_v not_o baptise_a at_o one_o age_n and_o divers_a that_o be_v baptise_a at_o age_n upon_o their_o own_o conversion_n from_o heathenism_n be_v not_o sudden_o so_o know_v as_o to_o be_v acquaint_v with_o all_o the_o case_n about_o their_o child_n right_n but_o must_v have_v a_o considerable_a time_n to_o learn_v for_o it_o be_v be_v it_o speak_v without_o offence_n to_o strict_a man_n a_o general_n and_o narrow_a sort_n of_o knowledge_n which_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n require_v in_o the_o adult_n as_o necessary_a to_o baptism_n yea_o when_o they_o have_v at_o last_o keep_v they_o long_o under_o catechise_v for_o even_o in_o augustine_n time_n though_o all_o use_v the_o same_o word_n of_o baptism_n so_o few_o have_v a_o clear_a understanding_n of_o the_o very_a baptismal_a form_n or_o word_n that_o write_v ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la de_fw-la bapt_v contr_n donat._n he_o say_v that_o as_o to_o the_o mean_v of_o those_o word_n not_o only_o the_o heretic_n sed_fw-la ipsi_fw-la carnales_fw-la parvuli_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la si_fw-la possent_fw-la singuli_fw-la diligenter_fw-la interrogari_fw-la tot_fw-la diversitates_fw-la opinionum_fw-la fortassis_fw-la quot_fw-la homines_fw-la numerarentur_fw-la animalis_fw-la enim_fw-la homo_fw-la non_fw-la percipit_fw-la etc._n etc._n anon_o tamen_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la integrum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la §_o 22._o there_o remain_v a_o catalogue_n of_o my_o heinous_a error_n which_o he_o have_v put_v in_o the_o preface_n to_o his_o first_o edition_n and_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o second_o and_o which_o he_o and_o such_o as_o he_o have_v teach_v many_o honest_a weak_a people_n in_o london_n both_o anabaptist_n and_o independent_o to_o talk_v frightful_o and_o odious_o of_o from_o one_o another_o behind_o my_o back_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o he_o and_o they_o shall_v i_o answer_v they_o that_o never_o speak_v or_o write_v to_o i_o shall_v i_o take_v this_o man_n accusation_n for_o a_o confutation_n or_o conviction_n be_v so_o deadly_a a_o enemy_n of_o antichrist_n conceit_v of_o a_o self-infallibility_a or_o that_o i_o must_v take_v my_o faith_n or_o trust_v from_o mr._n danvers_n though_o not_o from_o the_o church_n pope_n or_o general_a council_n if_o not_o what_o do_v the_o man_n think_v that_o a_o recitation_n shall_v do_v with_o i_o do_v not_o i_o know_v what_o i_o have_v write_v till_o he_o tell_v i_o §_o 23._o but_o it_o be_v other_o that_o he_o tell_v it_o to_o those_o other_o will_v read_v my_o own_o word_n or_o they_o will_v not_o if_o they_o will_v i_o will_v not_o be_v so_o
the_o baptism_n of_o water_n but_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o receive_v it_o when_o the_o opportunity_n of_o circumstance_n be_v offer_v and_o see_v whatever_o come_v to_o pass_v do_v come_v to_o pass_v of_o necessity_n it_o maybe_o say_v that_o such_o a_o one_o can_v be_v save_v without_o such_o baptism_n and_o to_o the_o question_n of_o a_o old_a woman_n baptise_v child_n in_o necessity_n he_o say_v credimus_fw-la tamen_fw-la quod_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la abjecta_fw-la persona_fw-la rite_n lavante_fw-la hominem_fw-la cum_fw-la verbis_fw-la sacramentalibus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la flaminis_fw-la deus_fw-la complete_a the_o reader_n must_v pardon_v the_o latin_a to_o the_o author_n or_o printer_n which_o may_v thus_o be_v english_v but_o we_o believe_v that_o what_o old_a woman_n soever_o or_o abject_a person_n right_o wash_v one_o with_o the_o sacramental_a word_n god_n fulfil_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n it_o seem_v that_o whereas_o tertullian_n mr._n d.'s_n first_o witness_n be_v for_o layman_n baptise_v in_o case_n of_o necessity_n but_o not_o for_o woman_n that_o wickliff_n be_v for_o woman_n also_o and_o to_o the_o next_o question_n whether_o infant_n unbaptise_v when_o baptism_n can_v not_o be_v have_v be_v all_o damn_a he_o answer_v et_fw-la per_fw-la haec_fw-la respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v and_o by_o this_o i_o answer_v your_o three_o objection_n grant_v that_o god_n if_o he_o will_v may_v damn_v such_o a_o infant_n and_o do_v he_o no_o wrong_n and_o if_o he_o will_v he_o can_v save_v he_o and_o i_o dare_v not_o define_v either_o part_n nor_o be_o i_o careful_a about_o reputation_n or_o get_v evidence_n in_o the_o case_n but_o as_o a_o dumb_a man_n be_o silent_a humble_o confese_v my_o ignorance_n use_v conditional_a word_n will_n because_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o clear_a to_o i_o whether_o such_o a_o infant_n shall_v be_v save_v or_o damn_v but_o i_o know_v that_o whatever_o god_n do_v in_o it_o will_v be_v just_a and_o a_o work_n of_o mercy_n to_o be_v praise_v of_o all_o the_o faithful_a and_o let_v not_o they_o like_o presumptuous_a fool_n pour_v out_o themselves_o that_o of_o their_o own_o authority_n without_o knowledge_n define_v any_o thing_n in_o that_o matter_n qui_fw-la autem_fw-la dicit_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o he_o that_o say_v that_o in_o this_o case_n put_v a_o infant_n shall_v be_v save_v as_o it_o be_v pious_a to_o believe_v he_o do_v superfluous_o uncertain_a himself_o uncertainty_n more_o than_o will_v profit_v he_o but_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n in_o parent_n power_n though_o lapse_v into_o a_o thing_n past_a for_o which_o it_o be_v necessary_a by_o god_n just_a judgement_n that_o so_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v therefore_o he_o that_o define_v that_o neither_o parent_n nor_o people_n so_o sin_v that_o it_o shall_v so_o come_v to_o pass_v do_v speak_v as_o a_o pie_n on_o the_o head_n of_o his_o own_o knowledge_n but_o we_o believe_v it_o as_o a_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o nothing_o befall_v a_o man_n after_o the_o first_o grace_n unless_o some_o part_n of_o mankind_n either_o merit_n or_o demerit_n that_o this_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v in_o the_o next_o thirteen_o chapter_n he_o proceed_v to_o answer_v the_o question_n quomodo_fw-la animae_fw-la talium_fw-la infantium_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la actuali_fw-la decedentium_fw-la punientur_fw-la have_v before_o speak_v of_o infant_n die_v unbaptise_v unavoidable_o that_o be_v how_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o infant_n shall_v be_v punish_v whether_o all_o equal_o or_o unequal_o and_o whether_o only_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n or_o also_o of_o sense_n and_o he_o conclude_v contrary_a to_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v both_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n and_o note_v that_o that_o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la peccata_fw-la originalia_fw-la hominum_fw-la esse_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sicut_fw-la decedentes_fw-la in_o originalibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la propter_fw-la illa_fw-la inaequaliter_fw-la condemnandi_fw-la nam_fw-la juxta_fw-la dicta_fw-la omnes_fw-la condemnati_fw-la pro_fw-la originalibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la condemnandi_fw-la tam_fw-la poena_fw-la damni_fw-la quam_fw-la poena_fw-la sensus_fw-la sed_fw-la impossibile_fw-it est_fw-la quod_fw-la condemnentur_fw-la aequaliter_fw-la omnino_fw-la illis_fw-la poenis_fw-la ergo_fw-la relinquitur_fw-la quod_fw-la peccata_fw-la quibus_fw-la illas_fw-la poenas_fw-la demeruerunt_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sunt_fw-la dicenda_fw-la that_o be_v it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o the_o original_a sin_n of_o man_n be_v unequal_a as_o those_o that_o die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v unequal_o to_o be_v condemn_v for_o they_o for_o as_o be_v say_v all_o that_o be_v condemn_v for_o original_a sin_n be_v condemn_v both_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o of_o sense_n but_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v damn_v altogether_o equal_o with_o those_o pain_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o the_o sin_n by_o which_o they_o deserve_v those_o punishment_n be_v say_v to_o be_v unequal_a reader_n i_o have_v be_v the_o large_a in_o transcribe_v and_o translate_n the_o word_n of_o wickliff_n because_o a_o author_n be_v not_o so_o well_o understand_v by_o a_o line_n or_o two_o dismember_a from_o the_o rest_n as_o by_o whole_a discourse_n and_o so_o that_o his_o sense_n may_v be_v past_o all_o controversy_n here_o it_o be_v visible_a that_o wickliff_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v infant-baptism_n that_o 1._o he_o express_o assert_v it_o 2._o he_o never_o so_o much_o as_o note_v it_o for_o any_o controversy_n nor_o make_v any_o doubt_n or_o question_n about_o it_o 3._o yea_o he_o take_v it_o to_o be_v bold_a presumption_n for_o any_o to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o know_v whether_o a_o infant_n that_o die_v unavoidable_o unbaptise_v be_v save_v or_o not_o but_o only_o say_v god_n can_v do_v it_o if_o he_o will_v and_o he_o can_v damn_v he_o 4._o and_o to_o those_o that_o say_v that_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o the_o fault_n nor_o the_o people_n see_v they_o intend_v his_o baptism_n he_o say_v that_o many_o thing_n come_v to_o pass_v for_o past_a sin_n of_o parent_n and_o people_n and_o therefore_o that_o can_v be_v conclude_v and_o nothing_o after_o the_o first_o grace_n come_v to_o pass_v unmerited_a 5._o and_o he_o conclude_v that_o those_o of_o they_o that_o be_v damn_v for_o original_a sin_n be_v punish_v with_o pain_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n but_o unequal_o have_v unequal_a original_n sin_n 6._o but_o baptism_n he_o assert_v do_v put_v away_o all_o sin_n in_o the_o right_o baptise_a 7._o and_o that_o when_o infant_n be_v right_o baptise_a with_o water_n they_o be_v baptise_a with_o the_o three_o baptism_n have_v baptismal_a grace_n 8._o that_o it_o be_v according_a to_o christ_n rule_n that_o infant_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v baptise_a and_o now_o reader_n judge_v what_o a_o sad_a case_n poor_a honest_a ignorant_a christian_n be_v in_o that_o must_v have_v their_o soul_n seduce_v trouble_a and_o lead_v into_o love-killing_a alienation_n and_o separation_n and_o censure_n of_o christ_n church_n and_o of_o their_o particular_a brethren_n by_o such_o a_o man_n as_o this_o and_o whether_o they_o that_o dare_v use_v soul_n at_o this_o rate_n be_v so_o much_o better_a than_o we_o as_o to_o be_v above_o our_o communion_n nay_o whether_o those_o that_o late_o revile_v the_o zeal_n of_o dissenter_n as_o cherish_v the_o most_o odious_a crime_n be_v not_o too_o much_o scandalize_v and_o harden_v by_o such_o deal_n when_o a_o man_n as_o plead_v for_o christ_n and_o baptism_n dare_v not_o only_o print_v such_o thing_n but_o stand_v to_o they_o in_o a_o second_o edition_n and_o defend_v they_o by_o a_o second_o book_n and_o rage_n and_o be_v confident_a in_o revile_v those_o that_o tell_v he_o of_o his_o untruth_n §_o 10._o but_o he_o have_v many_o pretend_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n and_o some_o of_o they_o out_o of_o the_o very_a chapter_n which_o i_o have_v transcribe_v 1._o say_v he_o he_o assert_v two_o sacrament_n 2._o that_o believer_n must_v be_v baptize_v in_o pure_a water_n and_o what_o be_v these_o to_o the_o purpose_n 3_o that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n a_o gross_a untruth_n but_o he_o give_v you_o the_o word_n that_o prove_v it_o ideo_fw-la absque_fw-la dubitatione_n si_fw-la iste_fw-la insensibilis_fw-la baptismus_fw-la affuerit_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la à_fw-la crimine_fw-la est_fw-la mundatus_fw-la &_o si_fw-la ille_fw-la defuerit_fw-la quantumcunque_fw-la essent_fw-la priores_fw-la baptismus_fw-la non_fw-la prodest_fw-la animae_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la i_o give_v you_o the_o word_n before_o and_o do_v the_o man_n think_v that_o this_o be_v any_o thing_n to_o his_o purpose_n wickliff_n say_v water_v baptism_n save_v no_o soul_n young_a or_o old_a without_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n therefore_o say_v mr._n d._n wickliff_n say_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a
subject_n of_o baptism_n will_v he_o make_v the_o church_n of_o his_o mind_n by_o such_o palpable_a falsehood_n as_o these_o but_o he_o add_v he_o say_v that_o person_n be_v first_o to_o be_v baptise_a with_o that_o he_o call_v the_o insensible_a baptism_n before_o water_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o utter_o false_a it_o be_v his_o own_o forgery_n wickliff_n say_v no_o such_o thing_n that_o it_o must_v be_v first_o nay_o i_o doubt_v he_o say_v quite_o contrary_a as_o i_o have_v recite_v ideo_fw-la duo_fw-la baptismi_fw-la priores_fw-la sunt_fw-la signa_fw-la antecedentia_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la suppositione_n necessaria_fw-la ad_fw-la istum_fw-la tertium_fw-la baptismum_fw-la flaminis_fw-la see_v here_o how_o far_o this_o man_n be_v to_o be_v believe_v 2._o but_o though_o wickliff_n call_v waterbaptism_n a_o antecedent_n sign_n yet_o most_o protestant_n writer_n i_o think_v hold_v that_o believer_n infant_n have_v by_o virtue_n of_o god_n covenant_n the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n that_o 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then_o a_o inquisitor_n he_o call_v heretic_n but_o also_o how_o many_o church_n the_o catharist_n have_v and_o what_o number_n each_o church_n have_v and_o where_o they_o be_v and_o what_o every_o sect_n hold_v as_o different_z from_o the_o rest_n whereas_o many_o ignorant_a writer_n of_o those_o time_n confound_v they_o from_o he_o we_o have_v distinct_a notice_n that_o the_o manichee_n and_o catharist_n than_o hold_v the_o horrid_a heresy_n charge_v on_o the_o waldenses_n and_o that_o the_o leonist_n or_o pauperes_fw-la de_fw-fr lugduno_n the_o true_a waldenses_n and_o albigenses_n be_v indeed_o free_a from_o they_o and_o about_o worship_n and_o church_n government_n they_o differ_v from_o the_o pontifician_n as_o the_o protestant_n do_v but_o for_o doctrinal_n about_o predestination_n freewill_n man_n power_n venial_a sin_n justification_n merit_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o regardable_a difference_n charge_v on_o they_o cap._n 5._o he_o give_v you_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o 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