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A86891 A second vindication of a disciplinary, anti-Erastian, orthodox free-admission to the Lords-Supper; or, The state of this controversie revised and proposed: for the fuller understanding of the most, as to the grounds whereon it stands; and more especially for the ease, and clearer proceeding of those, that shall write about it, whether for it, or against it. / By John Humfrey, min: of Froome. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1656 (1656) Wing H3710; Thomason E1641_2; ESTC R209066 63,290 161

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as_o to_o think_v that_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o such_o a_o person_n not_o yet_o under_o censure_n to_o be_v wrought_v on_o or_o edify_v by_o this_o ordinance_n no_o let_v but_o a_o right_a application_n of_o what_o be_v hold_v forth_o herein_o be_v make_v by_o every_o receiver_n according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o his_o soul_n and_o what_o can_v be_v more_o effectual_a through_o the_o word_n to_o break_v his_o heart_n let_v the_o man_n which_o be_v most_o keen_a against_o sin_n consider_v what_o i_o have_v propose_v in_o my_o rejoynder_n p._n 37_o 39_o 40_o 75_o 76._o 112_o 113.235_o 236_o 237_o 238_o 239_o 255._o and_o he_o will_v see_v this_o be_v no_o loose_a doctrine_n i_o have_v teach_v neither_o may_v they_o say_v this_o be_v no_o mean_n to_o work_v grace_n or_o repentance_n but_o confirm_v it_o this_o be_v not_o a_o ordinance_n for_o conversion_n but_o for_o edification_n for_o i_o say_v otherwise_o it_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o edification_n and_o salvation_n and_o 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solution_n of_o such_o question_n as_o these_o utrum_fw-la peccator_fw-la sumens_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la sacramentalitèr_fw-la peccet_fw-la videtur_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la semitur_fw-la gustu_fw-la &_o tactu_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o visu_fw-la at_o peccator_fw-la non_fw-la peccat_fw-la videndo_fw-la respondeo_fw-la quòd_fw-la per_fw-la visum_fw-la non_fw-la accipitur_fw-la ipsum_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ejus_fw-la sed_fw-la ille_fw-la qui_fw-la manducat_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sumit_fw-la species_n sacramentales_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christum_fw-la qui_fw-la est_fw-la sub_fw-la eye_n aquinas_n part_n 3_o quaest_n 80._o art_n 4._o upon_o such_o answer_n as_o these_o i_o be_o the_o ●●…e_n move_v with_o their_o thought_n about_o this_o matter_n as_o also_o with_o some_o passage_n often_o quote_v out_o of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n of_o who_o i_o do_v observe_v 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censure_n but_o the_o great_a only_o tantum_n abest_fw-la ut_fw-la major_a excommunicatio_fw-la censeri_fw-la possit_fw-la praeter_fw-la dei_fw-la verbum_fw-la invecta_fw-la ut_fw-la contra_fw-la rara_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la expressa_fw-la minoris_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la exempla_fw-la majoris_fw-la autem_fw-la multa_fw-la p._n 11._o now_o if_o here_o instead_o of_o rara_fw-mi he_o have_v say_v nulla_fw-la i_o think_v he_o have_v deliver_v the_o very_a truth_n my_o reason_n against_o the_o affirmative_a of_o this_o question_n be_v these_o 1._o because_o the_o lord_n jesus_n in_o that_o primitive_a institution_n under_o the_o gospel_n mat._n 18.15_o 16_o 17._o have_v prescribe_v no_o other_o part_n or_o order_n in_o discipline_n than_o admonition_n and_o excommunication_n after_o the_o offend_a party_n be_v admonish_v private_o then_o public_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n say_v christ_n let_v he_o be_v as_o a_o heathen_a that_o be_v 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ignorant_a at_o that_o time_n of_o his_o death_n and_o mystery_n of_o our_o redemption_n compare_v mar._n 9.31_o 32._o lu._n 9.44_o 45._o with_o lu._n 24._o 7_o 8._o io._n 20.9_o and_o what_o then_o will_v follow_v for_o the_o ignorant_a be_v clear_a that_o it_o be_v a_o sin-aggravating_a ordinance_n and_o so_o a_o soul-humbling_a heart-breaking_a ordinance_n for_o the_o sinner_n mr._n b._n and_o i_o so_o well_o agree_v rejoynd_v p._n 235_o 236._o with_o cou._n seal_n p._n 204._o that_o it_o need_v no_o argument_n and_o than_o what_o follow_v for_o the_o scandalous_a be_v as_o clear_v likewise_o it_o be_v not_o therefore_o i_o say_v for_o these_o cause_n that_o i_o allow_v thus_o much_o but_o it_o be_v indeed_o because_o i_o think_v that_o no_o less_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o belong_v to_o the_o minister_n upon_o the_o score_n of_o prudence_n only_o that_o there_o be_v a_o possibility_n upon_o what_o be_v say_v of_o edification_n unto_o all_o intelligent_a church-member_n though_o 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