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A13298	A rejoynder to the reply published by the Iesuites vnder the name of William Malone. The first part. Wherein the generall answer to the challenge is cleared from all the Iesuites cavills	Synge, George, 1594-1653.	1632 (1632)	STC 23604; ESTC S118086	381,349	430

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by_o the_o jesuite_n ibid._n who_o for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v not_o neither_o will_v believe_v if_o he_o be_v ever_o so_o prime_a a_o doctor_n that_o shall_v fasten_v so_o false_a a_o calumny_n on_o the_o ephesi●●_n council_n but_o grant_v the_o jesuit_n all_o that_o he_o desire_v which_o be_v to_o make_v his_o doctrine_n of_o receive_v in_o one_o kind_n as_o ancient_a as_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n for_o opposition_n of_o their_o decree_n we_o be_v able_a to_o produce_v the_o bohemians_n not_o long_o after_o gregorius_n de_fw-fr valentia_n say_v the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n 4._o primate_n in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_v pag._n 3._o 4._o confess_v that_o it_o be_v more_o th●n_n he_o can_v tell_v when_o the_o custom_n of_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o one_o kind_n begin_v in_o some_o church_n the_o like_a do_v fisher_n and_o cai●tan_n give_v we_o to_o understand_v of_o indulgence_n that_o no_o certainty_n ●●●_o be_v have_v what_o their_o original_n 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of_o purgatory_n bellarmine_n inquire_v whether_o the_o soul_n therein_o be_v sure_a of_o eternal_a salvation_n and_o tell_v that_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n deny_v it_o in_o regard_n of_o certain_a vision_n 47._o vision_n bellarm_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr purgato_n cap._n 4._o quidam_fw-la catholici_fw-la existimant_fw-la varias_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la poenas_fw-la &_o unam_fw-la esse_fw-la omnium_fw-la maximam_fw-la incertitudinem_fw-la salutis_fw-la qua_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quasdam_fw-la solùm_fw-la animas_fw-la multari_fw-la quae_fw-la licet_fw-la revera_fw-la certò_fw-la salvandae_fw-la sint_fw-la tamen_fw-la ipsas_fw-la hoc_fw-la ignorare_fw-la ita_fw-la videtur_fw-la ●entire_fw-la dionysius_n carthusianus_n ob_fw-la quasdam_fw-la visiones_fw-la quas_fw-la ipse_fw-la refert_fw-la libro_fw-la de_fw-la 4._o novissimis_fw-la be_v 47._o and_o yet_o this_o cross_v the_o opinion_n of_o their_o divine_n salutis_fw-la divine_n ibid._n at_o communis_fw-la theologorum_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la omnes_fw-la animas_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la sunt_fw-la habere_fw-la certitudinem_fw-la suae_fw-la salutis_fw-la so_o that_o either_o the_o devil_n do_v teach_v some_o of_o their_o divine_n or_o else_o the_o troop_n of_o their_o divine_n resist_v the_o vision_n from_o god_n but_o what_o need_v we_o to_o run_v about_o to_o find_v who_o have_v teach_v papist_n so_o much_o of_o their_o new_a faith_n when_o they_o have_v devil_n allow_v preacher_n and_o justify_v to_o be_v the_o mouth_n and_o instrumental_a oracle_n suum_fw-la oracle_n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energumenis_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la pag._n 935._o oraculum_fw-la potest_fw-la a●cipi_fw-la instrumentaliter_fw-la ut_fw-la eraculum_fw-la idem_fw-la sit_fw-la quod_fw-la o●_n spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la &_o in_o hoc_fw-la sensu_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o creaturis_fw-la insensibilibus_fw-la &c_n &c_n ita_fw-la nihil_fw-la absurdi_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la facit_fw-la daemonem_fw-la os_fw-la suum_fw-la of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n yea_o so_o lively_a and_o zealous_a be_v verine_n the_o devil_n report_v to_o be_v dixisses_fw-la be_v ibid._n pag._n 797_o constat_fw-la daemonem_fw-la verinum_n multas_fw-la actiones_fw-la fecisse_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la christo_fw-la ministravit_fw-la sanctos_fw-la laudavit_fw-la &_o beatam_fw-la virginem_fw-la &_o multa_fw-la disseruit_fw-la de_fw-la vitijs_fw-la &_o vir●utibus_fw-la de_fw-la vitâ_fw-la aeternâ_fw-la inferno_fw-la &_o concilijs_fw-la evangelicis_fw-la quae_fw-la benè_fw-la vivero_fw-la docent_fw-la in_o quibus_fw-la duo_fw-la admir●tione_fw-la dig_v na_fw-fr concurrebant_fw-la primò_fw-la quod_fw-la sermo_fw-la ipsius_fw-la erat_fw-la arde●s_fw-la &_o vivens_fw-la &_o crediderim_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la angelus_n de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la aut_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la quispiam_fw-la descendisset_fw-la non_fw-la potuisset_fw-la aliter_fw-la loqui_fw-la loquebatur_fw-la enim_fw-la ut_fw-la potestatem_fw-la habens_fw-la &_o erant_fw-la verba_fw-la illius_fw-la ut_fw-la faculae_fw-la ardentes_fw-la &_o corda_fw-la illorum_fw-la ●epida_fw-la inflammabant_fw-la vnde_fw-la qui_fw-la audiebant_fw-la eum_fw-la ubertini_fw-la flebant_fw-la &_o obliviscebantur_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la prae●eritae_fw-la alij_fw-la ●undeb●●●_n pectora_fw-la alij_fw-la extra_fw-la se_fw-la rapti_fw-la altâ_fw-la vo●●_n cl●mabant_fw-la ●iserere_fw-la domine_fw-la domine_fw-la ●iserere_fw-la alij_fw-la vitam_fw-la in_o melius_fw-la mutaverunt_fw-la alij_fw-la saeculo_fw-la re●●●tiârunt_fw-la possum_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la plures_fw-la audiveram_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la praedicatores_fw-la viros_fw-la sanctos_fw-la &_o valdè_fw-la illuminatos_fw-la &_o huius_fw-la comparatione_fw-la voces_fw-la emortuas_fw-la dixisses_fw-la that_o neither_o angel_n nor_o apostle_n can_v speak_v otherwise_o praise_v the_o saint_n the_o bless_a virgin_n dispute_v of_o virtue_n vice_n life_n eternal_a hell_n and_o evangelicall_n counsel_n so_o that_o some_o of_o his_o hearer_n weep_v some_o do_v beat_v their_o breast_n some_o cry_v miserere_fw-la some_o change_v their_o life_n some_o enter_v the_o cloister_n yea_o so_o excellent_a be_v he_o in_o preach_v that_o the_o popish_a preacher_n which_o be_v holy_a and_o illuminate_v be_v but_o like_o the_o white_a of_o a_o egg_n without_o relishe_a if_o compare_v with_o he_o but_o will_v you_o see_v what_o doctrine_n these_o infernal_a oracle_n be_v approover_n of_o they_o teach_v the_o great_a doctrine_n of_o popish_a idolatry_n by_o their_o word_n and_o practice_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o ho●st_v corporis_fw-la ho●st_v ibid_fw-la pag._n 3_o compulsi_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la duo_fw-la ex_fw-la daemonibus_fw-la dare_v gloriam_fw-la &_o honorem_fw-la domino_fw-la jesu_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o adoraverunt_fw-la cum_fw-la sub_fw-la sacra_fw-la hostia_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o gestu_fw-la corporis_fw-la second_o they_o defend_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papal_a extent_n and_o use_n of_o the_o will_n committe_v will_n ibid._n pag._n 101_o et_fw-la 102._o v●us_fw-fr daemonum_fw-la dixit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la possit_fw-la h●mini_fw-la adimere_fw-la liberum_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la &_o paula_fw-la post_fw-la et_fw-la dixit_fw-la unus_fw-la daemonum_fw-la non_fw-la vult_fw-la ipsa_fw-la uti_fw-la suâ_fw-la libertate_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la vellet_fw-la uti_fw-la suâ_fw-la libertate_fw-la non_fw-la incideret_fw-la in_o m●la_fw-la qu●_n committe_v three_o their_o practice_n instruct_v to_o swear_v by_o the_o venerable_a sacrament_n ●acramentum_fw-la sacrament_n ibid._n pag._n 104._o daemon_n jurabat_fw-la s●lenniter_fw-la per_fw-la venerabile_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la quòd_fw-la sic_fw-la res_fw-la se_fw-la haberet_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la jurau●t_fw-la juramentum_fw-la so_o ●nne_v per_fw-la venerabile_fw-la ●acramentum_fw-la four_o they_o confute_v the_o protestant_n general_o in_o the_o point_n of_o antichrist_n 1._o that_o his_o name_n be_v not_o as_o old_a irenaeus_n intimate_v and_o we_o teach_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o tu_fw-la es_fw-la deus_fw-la coeli_fw-la atque_fw-la terrae_fw-la terr●_n terrae_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 71._o be_v zebub_n et_fw-fr leviathan_n dixeruat_fw-la principi_fw-la moderno_fw-la et_fw-la lodo●co_fw-la quod_fw-la nominarent_fw-la cum_fw-la hoc_fw-la nomine_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la dius_n coeli_fw-la atque_fw-la terr●_n 2._o the_o two_o beast_n apoc._n 13._o and_o 17._o be_v not_o the_o same_o but_o the_o first_o lucifer_n the_o second_o antichrist_n antichristu●_n antichrist_n ibid._n pag._n 94_o de_fw-fr duabus_fw-la bestijs_fw-la apocalyps●oslocuta_fw-la est_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la modum_fw-la audivi●_n diab●lo_fw-it quod_fw-la duarum_fw-la bestiarum_fw-la quae_fw-la venire_fw-la habent_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la mundi_fw-la alter_fw-la est_fw-la lucif●●_n alter_v antichristu●_n in_o the_o generation_n of_o antichrist_n see_v how_o bellarmine_n and_o the_o devil_n agree_v antichrist_n be_v bear_v of_o the_o devil_n diaboli_fw-la devil_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 12._o non_fw-la esset_fw-la tamen_fw-la error_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la diceret_fw-la antichristum_n nasciturum_fw-la ex_fw-la diabolo_fw-it &_o mu●ere_o &c._n &c._n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energum_n pag._n ●●_o nunc_fw-la natus_fw-la est_fw-la &_o non_fw-la ex_fw-la coi●●_n viri_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la operationem_fw-la diaboli_fw-la his_o mother_n a_o jew_n est_fw-la jew_n bellarm._n ibid._n sententia_fw-la est_fw-la antichristum_n nasciturum_fw-la de_fw-la tribu_fw-la dan._n histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 59_o mater_fw-la ejus_fw-la judaea_n est_fw-la the_o jew_n will_v receive_v he_o as_o a_o messiah_n messiah_n messiah_n bellarm_n ibid._n quòd_fw-la antichristus_fw-la sit_fw-la futurus_fw-la judaeus_fw-la &_o circumcisus_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o deducitur_fw-la primùm_fw-la ex_fw-la dictis_fw-la nam_fw-la jud●i_fw-la nunquam_fw-la reciperent_fw-la hominem_fw-la non_fw-la judaeum_n aut_fw-la incircumcisum_fw-la pro_fw-la svo_fw-la messià_fw-la histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 61._o voco_fw-la etiam_fw-la christus_fw-la rex_fw-la messiah_n he_o shall_v not_o reign_v at_o rome_n but_o at_o jerusalem_n eum_fw-la jerusalem_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n ●_o cap._n 13._o vera_fw-la sententia_fw-la est_fw-la antichristi_fw-la sedem_fw-la fore_fw-la jerusalem_n non_fw-la romam_fw-la histor_n de_fw-fr ●●bus_fw-la energ_fw-mi pag._n 59_o non_fw-la habitabit_fw-la romae_fw-la mater_fw-la ojus_fw-la nutrit_fw-la eum_fw-la he_o shall_v not_o receive_v baptism_n in_o the_o church_n but_o be_v circumcise_v circumcifus_fw-la circumcise_v historia_fw-la de_fw-la tribus_fw-la energum_n pag._n 59_o non_fw-fr in_o ecclesia_fw-la nomen_fw-la impositum_fw-la est_fw-la ei●_n neque_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la baptismum_fw-la accepit_fw-la bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 12._o antichristus_fw-la sit_fw-la futurus_fw-la judaeus_fw-la &_o circumcifus_fw-la he_o shall_v be_v monarch_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n ejus_fw-la world_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n lib._n 3._o cap._n ●●_o dicunt_fw-la antichristum_n omni●m_fw-la princi●●●_n 〈◊〉_d histor_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la energum_fw-la pag._n ●9_n dominabitur_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la perveniet_fw-la principatus_fw-la ejus_fw-la now_o let_v the_o reader_n behold_v who_o be_v most_o behold_v to_o the_o devil_n for_o their_o doctrine_n rome_n or_o the_o catholic_a church_n antichrist_n or_o the_o protoplast_n of_o protestancy_n and_o to_o show_v we_o how_o confirm_v they_o be_v to_o follow_v lie_n the_o jesuite_n do_v margin_n his_o citation_n against_o luther_n with_o a_o note_n the_o devil_n allege_v scripture_n as_o if_o it_o be_v no_o better_a than_o a_o devilish_a practice_n to_o be_v instruct_v from_o god_n &_o his_o word_n i_o will_v say_v nothing_o in_o answer_n to_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o th●●_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o ●ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o i●_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n i●_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ●eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o ●●_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o ●ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o matter_n 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all_o prelate_n 51_o prelate_n reply_v pag._n 51_o which_o of_o these_o word_n m._n malone_n prove_v rome_n to_o be_v above_o jerusalem_n the_o hill_n of_o babylon_n to_o be_v high_a than_o the_o mountain_n of_o the_o lord_n not_o the_o title_n of_o chief_a bishop_n for_o this_o give_v the_o bishop_n no_o power_n but_o place_n no_o authority_n but_o precedency_n be_v it_o the_o other_o that_o he_o sit_v in_o the_o apostolical_a eminency_n who_o doubt_v that_o the_o apostleship_n be_v attribute_v to_o other_o bishop_n aswell_o as_o rome_n that_o dare_v not_o adventure_v to_o imagine_v the_o effect_n of_o this_o appellation_n to_o be_v a_o spiritual_a monarchy_n as_o sidonius_n to_o lupus_n praeter_fw-la officium_fw-la quod_fw-la incomparabiliter_fw-la eminenti_fw-la apostolatui_fw-la tuo_fw-la sine_fw-la sine_fw-la debetur_fw-la 4._o debetur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d l._n 4._o epist_n 4._o so_o likewise_o in_o the_o renunciation_n of_o the_o metropolitical_a sea_n of_o heraclea_n thus_o speak_v 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say_v you_o to_o irenaeus_n irenaeus_n irenaeus_n eusebius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 5._o c._n 23._o extant_a autem_fw-la &_o verba_fw-la illorum_fw-la q●i_fw-la victorem_fw-la acriter_fw-la reprehenderunt_fw-la equibus_fw-la &_o irenaeus_n to_o cyprian_n error_n cyprian_n bellarm._n de_fw-fr rom_n

of_o bishop_n in_o the_o roman_a see_v that_o invincible_a rock_n upon_o which_o christ_n build_v his_o church_n for_o who_o will_v dream_v that_o father_n to_o esteem_v that_o present_a seat_n or_o succession_n to_o be_v the_o rock_n for_o any_o other_o reason_n then_o because_o they_o hold_v the_o rock_n confess_v by_o peter_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n not_o only_a peter_n successor_n at_o rome_n but_o all_o other_o successor_n of_o peter_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n may_v bestile_v rock_n retor_n rock_n origen_n in_o math_n hom_n 1._o petra_n est_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d omnis_fw-la qui_fw-la imitator_n est_fw-la christi_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la bibebant_fw-la qui_fw-la bibebant_fw-la de_fw-fr spiritali_fw-la consequenti_fw-la petra_fw-la et_fw-la super_fw-la omni_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la petra_fw-la aedificatur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la enim_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la perfectis_fw-la qui_fw-la habent_fw-la in_o se_fw-la congregationem_fw-la verborum_fw-la &_o 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in_o one_o city_n much_o more_o may_v be_v urge_v to_o show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v s._n augustine_n to_o testify_v that_o which_o he_o never_o think_v of_o but_o i_o will_v come_v to_o chrysostome_n who_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v expect_v much_o from_o he_o because_o he_o name_v peter_n successor_n why_o say_v he_o do_v christ_n shed_v his_o blood_n but_o to_o regain_v those_o sheep_n the_o care_n of_o who_o he_o commit_v both_o to_o peter_n and_o to_o peter_n successor_n 59_o successor_n reply_v pag._n 59_o i_o ask_v the_o jesuite_n whether_o he_o think_v the_o apostle_n have_v no_o commission_n from_o christ_n to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o his_o sheep_n whether_o go_v you_o into_o all_o the_o world_n and_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n 15_o creature_n mark_v 16._o 15_o do_v command_v no_o care_n of_o christ_n flock_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v no_o successor_n of_o peter_n but_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n cardinal_n cusanus_fw-la can_v deny_v 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right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o 6●_n no_o reply_v pag._n 6●_n in_o discuss_v whereof_o he_o dare_v not_o free_a this_o church_n of_o his_o so_o much_o adore_v from_o all_o spot_n but_o only_o those_o which_o be_v of_o misbelief_n 6●_n misbelief_n reply_v pag._n 6●_n and_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n who_o spot_n can_v they_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n fo●_n that_o company_n which_o beleive_v not_o aright_o can_v be_v esteem_v the_o church_n universal_a or_o particular_a so_o that_o every_o pure_a church_n in_o this_o sense_n have_v equal_a privilege_n though_o he_o pretend_v it_o for_o the_o only_a triumph_n of_o the_o roman_a 〈◊〉_d every_o man_n for_o ●e_v that_o be_v a_o heretic_n true_o &_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d appellation_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o jesuites_n preface_n be_v full_a of_o confidence_n as_o the_o answerer_n provoke_v i_o to_o the_o former_a disputation_n though_o i_o ween_v to_o his_o smart_n so_o do_v he_o give_v 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in_o my_o demand_n and_o 〈◊〉_d which_o he_o keep_v such_o a_o vain_a stir_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o protestant_n agreewith_o that_o ancient_a holy_a church_n in_o very_a few_o point_n of_o religion_n or_o rather_o to_o say_v better_o that_o they_o agree_v not_o in_o any_o one_o point_n at_o all_o 76_o all_o reply_v pag._n 76_o how_o well_o able_a the_o jesuite_n be_v or_o have_v be_v to_o make_v good_a wha●_n he_o say_v in_o his_o demand_n will_v be_v examine_v in_o the_o xith_z section_n here_o we_o expect_v what_o point_n of_o doctrine_n he_o ●an_v find_v out_o hold_v by_o we_o wherein_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o we_o vary_v from_o that_o harmony_n which_o irenaeus_n commend_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o his_o time_n and_o for_o his_o orderly_a ●andling_n of_o this_o matter_n he_o put_v down_o irenaeus_n his_o word_n as_o his_o major_a proposition_n that_o church_n which_o be_v spread_v throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n present_v her_o faith_n as_o ●●_o be_v dwell_v in_o one_o house_n and_o likewise_o beleive_v as_o it_o be_v have_v on_o soul_n and_o one_o heart_n and_o uniform_o preach_v teach_v and_o deliver_v this_o faith_n among_o all_o nation_n have_v as_o it_o be_v one_o mouth_n ibid._n mouth_n reply_v ibid._n and_o now_o as_o if_o this_o repetition_n be_v our_o confusion_n he_o tell_v we_o our_o adversary_n neither_o have_v nor_o believe_v any_o such_o church_n therefore_o they_o keep_v no_o such_o harmony_n the_o minor_a he_o be_v willing_a to_o prove_v by_o a_o twofold_a medi●m_fw-la first_o by_o what_o have_v be_v heretofore_o produce_v by_o he_o concern_v our_o disagreement_n which_o i_o hope_v the_o reader_n have_v observe_v will_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n second_o by_o a_o far_o great_a dissension_n which_o happen_v say_v the_o jesuite_n betwixt_o they_o and_o those_o protestant_n with_o who_o they_o pretend_v this_o harmony_n in_o other_o nation_n ibid._n nation_n reply_v ibid._n so_o that_o it_o seem_v the_o jesuite_n will_v first_o 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de_fw-fr his_o 〈◊〉_d à_fw-la p●●●ibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o ●●ae_fw-la co●tentio_fw-la ●_o scribuntur_fw-la in_o verbis_fw-la hiero_n 〈◊〉_d locum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o these_o rigid_a lutheran_n though_o they_o befriend_v a_o jesuite_n can_v in_o their_o dispute_n be_v allow_v a_o infallible_a privilege_n beside_o these_o lutheran_n which_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v if_o their_o word_n be_v as_o he_o lay_v they_o down_o for_o i_o can_v come_v by_o their_o book_n do_v

speak_v without_o ground_n for_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o the_o lutheran_n and_o the_o calvinist_n as_o they_o term_v we_o be_v but_o like_o a_o coal_n as_o sr_n edwin_n sands_n well_o observe_v which_o a_o wise_a man_n with_o a_o little_a moisture_n of_o his_o mouth_n may_v soon_o have_v quench_v although_o their_o minister_n with_o the_o wind_n of_o other_o have_v contrariwise_o inflame_v the_o same_o 〈…〉_o sr_n edwin_n sands_n his_o relation_n 〈…〉_o neither_o do_v it_o make_v against_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n in_o faith_n that_o some_o have_v rash_o and_o passionate_o urge_v our_o difference_n against_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o more_o moderate_a and_o well_o advise_v brethren_n who_o account_n no_o otherwise_o of_o the_o calvinist_n then_o of_o err_a brethren_n ibid._n ibid._n and_o further_o the_o jesuite_n can_v manifest_v that_o the_o point_n wherewith_o the_o lutheran_n be_v offend_v be_v in_o their_o own_o nature_n of_o the_o essence_n of_o faith_n which_o 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and_o moor_n 44._o moor_n s_o ●_o edw._n 〈◊〉_d his_o relat._n 〈◊〉_d 44._o make_v spain_n non-catholick_a or_o do_v the_o illuminati_fw-la in_o arragon_n the_o brood_n of_o your_o hypocritical_a priest_n by_o their_o pretence_n of_o angelical_a purity_n ibid._n purity_n ibid._n banish_v that_o church_n from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o grace_n this_o be_v neither_o sophistry_n nor_o logic_n for_o the_o word_n that_o he_o cit_v from_o the_o puritan_n no_o man_n can_v deny_v but_o they_o be_v the_o fruit_n of_o distemper_n &_o disobedience_n yet_o unable_a to_o drag_v with_o the_o jesuite_n the_o conclusion_n which_o he_o aim_v at_o for_o their_o dissension_n be_v not_o in_o fundamental_n nay_o it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o the_o foundation_n that_o it_o be_v no_o way_n doctrinal_a this_o you●_n turneabout_a spalleto_n when_o he_o be_v in_o england_n perceive_v &_o tell_v it_o his_o brother_n suares_n 〈◊〉_d suares_n spal_n con_fw-mi suar._n c._n ●_o 〈◊〉_d 30._o 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la vocantu●_n circa_fw-la articu●●s_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la dissentiunt_fw-la sed_fw-la circa_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o externam_fw-la ecclesia●●icam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o afterward_o he_o f●am●d_v they_o a_o lie_a catalogue_n ●5_n catalogue_n 〈◊〉_d ●●_o p._n ●5_n but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o jesuite_n will_v bettet_n perceive_v the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n if_o we_o use_v the_o strength_n thereof_o against_o himself_o if_o i_o shall_v bring_v before_o sixtus_n the_o four_o his_o time_n the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n bandy_n heresy_n at_o each_o other_o cloister_n damn_v and_o condemn_v each_o other_o of_o heresy_n not_o by_o word_n alone_o but_o in_o write_v also_o c_o will_v the_o jesuite_n conclude_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v matiae_n o_o sixt._n iu._n decret_a de_fw-fr concep_n virg_n matiae_n heretical_a and_o keep_v not_o irenaus_n his_o harmony_n sure_o if_o the_o pillar_n be_v rot_v the_o roof_n be_v not_o safe_a beside_o if_o the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n do_v see_v those_o fierce_a gladiat●res_n the_o jesuite_n and_o secular_o in_o england_n fight_v their_o late_a combat_n the_o jesuite_n term_v the_o secular_o calumniator●_n factious_a turbulent_a seditious_a scandalous_a author_n of_o schism_n rebel_n betrayer_n of_o the_o catholic_a cause_n apolog_fw-la cause_n parson_n apolog_fw-la and_o the_o secular_o return_v to_o they_o term_n of_o schismatickes_n donatist_n anabaptist_n arian_n with_o detection_n of_o their_o counsel_n &_o stratagem_n to_o be_v heathenis●●_n tyrannical_a atheistical_a sa●nicall_a to_o make_v they_o like_o lucian_n and_o machiavelli_n and_o for_o impiety_n and_o atheism_n to_o overcome_v lucifer_n himself_o quod_n watson_n quod_n will_v they_o use_v the_o jesuite_n logic_n and_o confess_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v not_o roman_a and_o that_o irenaus_n his_o harmony_n can_v be_v find_v there_o but_o let_v all_o the_o world_n view_v the_o devil_n fight_v with_o the_o lamb_n anno_fw-la 1255_o or_o 56._o when_o the_o friar_n publish_v their_o eternal_a gospel_n and_o the_o pope_n partake_v with_o they_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v find_v among_o all_o the_o heretic_n that_o have_v ever_o trouble_v the_o church_n such_o a_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a dissension_n let_v he_o swell_v swagger_v and_o display_v ignatius_n for_o ever_o for_o here_o we_o find_v friar_n more_o perfect_a contemplative_n than_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n manebit_fw-la apostle_n henry_n exphurd_n chron._n c._n 93._o eymeric_n director_n inquisitor_n part_n 2._o quaest_n 9_o §._o 4._o 〈◊〉_d errores_fw-la 4._o libri_fw-la 2._o partis_fw-la tractat_fw-la 2._o ay_o quod_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o sancti_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ejuse_n non_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la perfecti_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la contemplantium_fw-la ●_o quod_fw-la activa_fw-la vi●a_fw-la usqu●_fw-la ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n fr●ctuosa_fw-la fuit_fw-la sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d no●_n est_fw-la contemplative_a verò_fw-la vita_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la joachim_n fructificarc_n coepit_fw-la etamodò_fw-la in_o perfect_a ●_o successoribus●psius_fw-la perfecti●●_n manebit_fw-la of_o more_o dignity_n and_o authority_n than_o the_o apostle_n apostoli_fw-la apostle_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la ●_o libri_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la partis_fw-la in_fw-la tractatu_fw-la de_fw-fr joseph_n et_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la somnium_fw-la apparuit_fw-la invenitur_fw-la quod_fw-la prae_fw-la di●a_fw-la ●ores_fw-la qui_fw-la erant_fw-la in_o ultimo_fw-la statu_fw-la mundi_fw-la erunt_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la et_fw-la auctoritatis_fw-la majoris_fw-la quam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostoli_fw-la the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n disgrace_v as_o less_o excellent_a if_o compare_v to_o their_o eternal_a gospel_n christi_fw-la gospel_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la primae_fw-la partis_fw-la primus_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la evangelium_fw-la aeternum_fw-la quod_fw-la idem_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la doctrina_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n excellit_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la 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ecclesiae_fw-la esse_fw-la conditionem_fw-la necessariam_fw-la ad_fw-la assensum_fw-la fidei_fw-la ●_o nomine_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la ejus_fw-la caput_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la pierce_v vel_fw-la unâ_fw-la cum_fw-la concilio_n ex_fw-la praedicta_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la propositiones_fw-la fidei_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la declarantem_fw-la either_o with_o or_o without_o a_o council_n est_fw-la council_n ibid._n punct_a 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la quando_fw-la oriantur_fw-la controversiae_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o ijs_fw-la definiendis_fw-la à_fw-la verita●●_n aberrare_fw-la haec_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la auctoritas_fw-la ad_fw-la definiendum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o singulis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la quip_n qui_fw-la sine_fw-la controversiâ_fw-la possunt_fw-la errare_fw-la singuli_fw-la neque_fw-la est_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la omninò_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la frustra_fw-la 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pontifice_fw-la non_fw-la partim_fw-la à_fw-la pontifice_fw-la partim_fw-la à_fw-la concilio_n stapl●ton_n relect_v prin●_n doctr_n contr_n 6._o quaest_n 3._o in_o explicatar_n 5._o potestas_fw-la &_o infallibilit●s_fw-la papalis_fw-la est_fw-la potestas_fw-la &_o gratia_fw-la personalis_fw-la personae_fw-la petri_n &_o successorum_fw-la ejus_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la data_fw-la majoritas_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o maturitas_fw-la judicij_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la scientia_fw-la rerum_fw-la sacrarum_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la concilium_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o theologo●●m_fw-la collegium_fw-la imò_fw-la unus_fw-la aliquis_fw-la theologus_fw-la pontificem_fw-la facilè_fw-la superabit_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la de_fw-la judicio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o determination●_n sensus_fw-la scripturae_fw-la quem_fw-la credere_fw-la oporteat_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la concilium_fw-la supra_fw-la papam_fw-la sed_fw-la unus_fw-la papa_n petri_n successor_n cvi_fw-la 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