consideration_n that_o in_o this_o century_n tertullian_n persuade_v to_o defer_v both_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n and_o other_o who_o be_v of_o age_n do_v thereby_o intimate_v that_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n to_o baptise_v the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o otherwise_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v desire_v that_o they_o will_v defer_v the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o concern_v tradition_n which_o mr._n danvers_n say_v be_v the_o principal_a ground_n that_o have_v be_v urge_v for_o infants-baptism_n with_o a_o answer_n thereto_o sect._n 2._o to_o make_v out_o this_o he_o quote_v austin_n who_o call_v it_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n to_o which_o i_o say_v in_o my_o answer_n that_o ancient_o the_o great_a point_n of_o faith_n be_v by_o the_o father_n name_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o they_o be_v call_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2_o thes._n 2._o 15._o which_o be_v all_o one_o with_o divine_a doctrine_n or_o 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aberration_n herein_o but_o quiet_o permit_v he_o to_o enjoy_v the_o comfort_n and_o honour_n of_o such_o witness_n finis_fw-la preface_n to_o the_o reply_n synodus_fw-la 4tae_fw-la carthaginensis_n cent._n 4._o cap._n 9_o pag._n 873._o laodicens_fw-la concilium_fw-la cent._n 4._o cap._n 9_o p._n 833._o common-prayer_n book_n last_o edit_n dip_v by_o wash_v be_v nonsense_n nonsense_n dr._n richard_n allestree_n the_o worthy_a provost_n of_o eaton-colledg_n eaton-colledg_n in_o his_o book_n entit_fw-fr more_o proof_n of_o infant_n church-membership_a pag._n 343._o 343._o in_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n london_n 1674._o pag._n 65_o 66._o 66._o anno._n 1656._o 1656._o pag._n 343._o of_o his_o book_n before_o cite_v ☞_o ☞_o ☜_o ☜_o
ad_fw-la quintum_fw-la &_o sextum_fw-la that_o be_v to_o beringarius_n his_o 5_o and_o 6_o argument_n against_o transubstantiation_n not_o against_o infant-baptism_n launifrank_a answer_n opposuit_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la perpetuam_fw-la &_o consentientem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dei_fw-la so_o that_o this_o authority_n be_v quite_o cashier_v and_o mr._n danvers_n must_v have_v a_o unparalleled_a confidence_n to_o attempt_v the_o retrieve_v he_o the_o next_o be_v cassander_n out_o of_o guitmundus_n who_o say_v that_o with_o the_o real_a presence_n he_o deny_v baptism_n to_o little-ones_a though_o the_o latter_a not_o so_o public_o as_o the_o former_a but_o guitmund_n and_o cassander_n say_v quem_fw-la tamen_fw-la errorem_fw-la in_o publicum_fw-la non_fw-la produxit_fw-la that_o be_v he_o never_o public_o deny_v infant-baptism_n mr._n d._n translate_v it_o not_o so_o public_o because_o else_o it_o may_v be_v present_o query_v how_o then_o can_v guitmund_n tell_v and_o rather_o than_o lay_v such_o a_o stumbling-block_n in_o the_o way_n he_o think_v it_o expedient_a to_o make_v bold_a with_o his_o author_n and_o abuse_v they_o than_o by_o tell_v truth_n undeceive_v his_o reader_n this_o may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n but_o to_o give_v mr._n d._n full_a satisfaction_n i_o shall_v make_v a_o more_o particular_a inquiry_n into_o this_o business_n and_o as_o for_o guitmundus_n the_o magdeburg_n tell_v we_o ait_fw-fr eum_fw-la beringarium_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la infan_n &_o de_fw-la conjugio_fw-la non_fw-la recte_fw-la docuisse_fw-la which_o prove_v he_o as_o much_o against_o marriage_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n but_o bp._n usher_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o book_n the_o successione_n cap._n 7._o §_o 37._o that_o deoduinas_n leodiensis_n take_v it_o upon_o common_a fame_n that_o bruno_n and_o beringarius_n do_v quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la erat_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parvulorum_fw-la evertere_fw-la and_o add_v deinde_fw-la ex_fw-la leodiensis_fw-la fide_fw-la refert_fw-la guitmundus_n so_o that_o guitmundus_n take_v it_o from_o leodiensis_n who_o have_v it_o from_o common_a fame_n which_o indeed_o arise_v from_o their_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o clear_o appear_v by_o walden_n charge_v wickliff_n to_o deny_v it_o who_o yet_o be_v so_o positive_a in_o the_o point_n as_o mr._n baxter_n have_v prove_v and_o usher_n also_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o tot_fw-la synodis_fw-la adversus_fw-la beringarium_fw-la habitis_fw-la nullam_fw-la de_fw-la anabaptismo_fw-la litem_fw-la illi_fw-la intentatam_fw-la invenimus_fw-la which_o further_o prove_v it_o and_o whereas_o mr._n danvers_n insinuate_v 2_o ed._n pag._n 243_o 244._o that_o beringarius_n recant_v this_o opinion_n against_o infant-baptism_n and_o then_o recant_v his_o recantation_n there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o infant-baptism_n in_o his_o recantation_n he_o produce_v also_o thuanus_n to_o prove_v beringarius_n and_o his_o follower_n be_v great_a asserter_n of_o baptism_n after_o faith_n 2._o edit_fw-la pag._n 73._o and_o in_o his_o reply_n pag._n 116._o he_o quote_v his_o preface_n to_o his_o history_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o archbishop_n of_o trier_n do_v persecute_v the_o beringarian_o for_o deny_v infant-baptism_n it_o be_v true_a he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o archbishop_n do_v eos_fw-la diocesi_fw-la sua_fw-la expellere_fw-la because_o illius_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la populis_fw-la disseminarent_fw-la but_o that_o thuanus_n shall_v say_v he_o do_v it_o because_o they_o deny_v infant-baptism_n be_v one_o of_o mr._n danvers_n mistake_n there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o syllable_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n in_o that_o preface_n or_o in_o the_o whole_a history_n that_o i_o can_v find_v his_o last_o evidence_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v a_o council_n call_v by_o h._n 1._o of_o france_n to_o suppress_v the_o heresy_n of_o bruno_n and_o beringarius_n for_o deny_v transubstantiation_n and_o infant-baptism_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v bibliotheca_fw-la patrum_fw-la pag._n 432._o but_o i_o can_v find_v either_o in_o bibl._n pat._n or_o the_o council_n or_o any_o where_o else_o but_o in_o mr._n danvers_n book_n that_o that_o council_n ever_o charge_v beringarius_n with_o deny_v infant-baptism_n let_v mr._n danvers_n prove_v it_o if_o he_o can_v and_o just_o after_o this_o rate_n do_v he_o prove_v his_o matter_n but_o suppose_v these_o author_n have_v affirm_v what_o mr._n d._n will_v make_v we_o believe_v they_o do_v yet_o it_o fall_v short_a of_o sufficient_a proof_n because_o the_o same_o sort_n of_o man_n charge_v luther_n and_o calvin_n to_o be_v against_o infants-baptism_n and_o this_o we_o have_v acknowledge_v from_o mr._n danvers_n own_o pen_n in_o his_o innocency_n and_o truth_n vindidicate_v p._n 127._o the_o next_o of_o his_o witness_n be_v peter_n bruis_n henricus_n arnoldus_fw-la but_o of_o this_o i_o have_v speak_v already_o that_o even_o the_o magdiburgs_n and_o osiander_n who_o relate_v what_o peter_n cluniacensis_fw-la and_o bernard_n say_v of_o they_o do_v question_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o their_o wicked_a adversary_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n to_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n and_o shall_v only_o add_v what_o mr._n martial_n say_v to_o mr._n tomb_n the_o truth_n be_v say_v he_o these_o two_o man_n do_v for_o 20_o year_n together_o so_o much_o spread_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o waldenses_n and_o so_o plague_v the_o bishop_n mitre_n and_o the_o monk_n belly_n that_o i_o wonder_v not_o though_o they_o charge_v any_o thing_n upon_o they_o that_o may_v make_v they_o odious_a to_o the_o people_n he_o that_o read_v the_o rail_a book_n of_o cluniacensis_fw-la will_v find_v that_o he_o acknowledge_v most_o of_o what_o he_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n to_o be_v upon_o the_o report_n of_o other_o he_o lay_v this_o to_o their_o charge_n that_o child_n that_o die_v before_o they_o can_v actual_o believe_v be_v damn_v and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o altogether_o believe_v the_o apostle_n prophet_n no_o nor_o christ_n himself_o by_o their_o corrupt_a consequence_n say_v the_o magdiburgs_n they_o will_v make_v they_o hold_v any_o thing_n as_o before_o to_o deny_v chrism_n and_o oil_n and_o hospital_n in_o the_o baptise_v of_o child_n be_v all_o one_o with_o they_o and_o if_o mr._n danvers_n believe_v cluniacensis_fw-la do_v slander_v they_o in_o the_o other_o thing_n he_o must_v excuse_v we_o if_o we_o believe_v he_o do_v also_o in_o this_o about_o infant-baptism_n one_o thing_n i_o shall_v mind_v the_o reader_n with_o and_o so_o pass_v on_o and_o that_o be_v the_o good_a intelligence_n mr._n danvers_n hold_v ☜_o since_o almost_o all_o the_o testimony_n that_o he_o bring_v throughout_o all_o his_o book_n be_v borrow_v either_o from_o monk_n abbot_n jesuit_n inquisitor_n or_o some_o canker_a popish_a priest_n that_o make_v no_o conscience_n of_o load_v the_o professor_n of_o the_o truth_n with_o all_o manner_n of_o calumny_n but_o say_v he_o cassander_n witness_v the_o same_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o duke_n of_o cleave_z viz._n that_o peter_n bruis_n and_o henricus_n deny_v baptism_n to_o little_a one_o affirm_v that_o only_o the_o adult_n shall_v be_v baptize_v it_o be_v true_a he_o say_v so_o and_o withal_o tell_v we_o cum_fw-la baptismo_fw-la &_o fide_fw-la etiam_fw-la salutem_fw-la et_fw-la regnum_fw-la dei_fw-la infantibus_fw-la ademerunt_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la credentes_fw-la tantum_fw-la et_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la pertinere_fw-la sensuerunt_fw-la with_o baptism_n and_o faith_n they_o take_v salvation_n also_o from_o infant_n as_o judge_v it_o belong_v only_o to_o believer_n that_o be_v baptize_v but_o how_o come_v cassander_n by_o this_o good_a intelligence_n why_o the_o abbot_n of_o cluni_n tell_v he_o so_o and_o if_o mr._n danvers_n will_v not_o believe_v they_o damn_v all_o infant_n though_o the_o abbot_n affirm_v it_o why_o shall_v we_o believe_v they_o deny_v they_o baptism_n for_o which_o he_o can_v produce_v no_o better_a proof_n but_o 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it_o as_o the_o church_n ☜_o of_o rome_n ordain_v it_o without_o the_o ceremony_n of_o their_o church_n which_o be_v all_o one_o to_o they_o as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o practise_v
at_o all_o we_o be_v much_o engage_v to_o mr._n danvers_n for_o this_o he_o have_v as_o it_o be_v speak_v all_o in_o a_o word_n give_v we_o a_o key_n to_o open_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o business_n and_o right_o to_o understand_v why_o beringarius_n peter_n bruis_n arnoldus_fw-la be_v charge_v for_o deny_v infants-baptism_n i_o must_v now_o prepare_v myself_o with_o patience_n for_o mr._n danvers_n be_v come_v to_o his_o paroxysm_n and_o will_v even_o move_v a_o stoic_a i_o perceive_v he_o be_v strange_o transport_v with_o passion_n and_o make_v proclamation_n against_o i_o know_v say_v he_o that_o hence_o you_o have_v a_o further_a discovery_n of_o his_o unfaithfulness_n and_o want_v of_o conscience_n for_o dare_v thus_o to_o abuse_v the_o world_n with_o a_o cheat_n and_o that_o which_o he_o know_v to_o be_v a_o mere_a forgery_n of_o his_o own_o the_o flame_n be_v not_o yet_o extinguish_v but_o spread_v into_o two_o page_n more_o and_o be_v rather_o increase_v he_o have_v injurious_o belie_v osiander_n belie_v cluniacensis_fw-la belie_v peter_n bruis_n belie_v the_o truth_n which_o by_o this_o forgery_n he_o will_v cover_v abuse_v the_o world_n belie_v and_o abuse_v i_o and_o much_o to_o be_v fear_v his_o own_o conscience_n by_o this_o piece_n of_o folly_n and_o falshood_n now_o what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o all_o this_o shall_v i_o implore_v a_o increpation_n from_o above_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d judas_n 14._o or_o shall_v i_o bespeak_v mr._n danvers_n in_o the_o language_n of_o croesus_n to_o solon_n in_o lucian_n dialogue_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d good_a word_n o_o man_n will_v any_o one_o have_v expect_v such_o pollute_a foot_n of_o clay_n with_o which_o he_o kick_v at_o i_o shall_v be_v attendant_n to_o that_o head_n of_o gold_n i_o mean_v those_o christian_a word_n in_o mr._n danvers_n preface_n i_o will_v not_o render_v rail_v for_o rail_v it_o be_v ever_o judge_v the_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n for_o person_n to_o betake_v 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be_v understand_v of_o the_o spiritual_a seed_n of_o abraham_n when_o it_o be_v estius_n the_o jesuit_n and_o calvin_n do_v most_o express_o say_v the_o contrary_n viz_o that_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o fleshly_a and_o natural_a seed_n and_o estius_n declare_v his_o judgement_n against_o he_o and_o if_o i_o be_v addict_v to_o such_o billingsgate_n language_n i_o can_v retort_v upon_o he_o he_o belie_v calvin_n he_o belie_v the_o truth_n which_o by_o that_o forgery_n he_o will_v cover_v and_o hide_v he_o abuse_v the_o world_n with_o a_o cheat_n and_o much_o more_o fear_v his_o own_o conscience_n by_o this_o piece_n of_o folly_n and_o falshood_n 3._o as_o for_o his_o 3d_o demonstration_n that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v against_o infants-baptism_n fetch_v from_o the_o catholic_a emperor_n and_o pope_n council_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o tribe_n that_o follow_v monk_n abbot_n inquisitor_n i_o shall_v believe_v it_o as_o much_o as_o that_o of_o vicecomes_a who_o say_v not_o only_a peter_n bruis_n etc._n etc._n be_v against_o infants-baptism_n but_o also_o calvin_n luther_n nor_o will_v that_o serve_v mr._n danvers_n turn_v to_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o be_v so_o repute_v because_o they_o do_v oppose_v and_o neglect_v to_o baptise_v child_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ordain_v and_o practise_v unless_o he_o can_v give_v we_o some_o assurance_n that_o the_o waldenses_n be_v not_o accuse_v and_o condemn_v by_o these_o council_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n moreover_o he_o tell_v we_o rainerius_n the_o inquisitor_n in_o his_o book_n contra_n waldenses_n say_v de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la dicunt_fw-la quod_fw-la ablutio_fw-la quae_fw-la datur_fw-la infantibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la prosit_fw-la etc._n etc._n concern_v baptism_n they_o say_v that_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o little_a one_o profit_v nothing_o and_o this_o evidence_n mr._n danvers_n will_v have_v note_v because_o i_o do_v positive_o deny_v that_o rainerius_n in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o their_o error_n give_v the_o least_o hint_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n that_o they_o deny_v infants-baptism_n this_o be_v another_o of_o his_o great_a charge_n against_o i_o in_o his_o preface_n where_o he_o say_v rainerius_n tell_v we_o totidem_fw-la verbis_fw-la i_o e_fw-la in_o so_o many_o word_n they_o deny_v it_o for_o vindication_n of_o myself_o let_v the_o reader_n 1_o know_v that_o in_o my_o infants-baptism_n assert_v p._n 96._o i_o quote_v dr._n featly_n roma_fw-la ruens_fw-la for_o what_o i_o have_v say_v who_o give_v we_o a_o catalogue_n of_o the_o error_n which_o rainerius_n charge_v the_o waldenses_n with_o in_o his_o book_n contra_n waldenses_n chap._n 4._o and_o this_o of_o deny_v infants-baptism_n be_v not_o among_o those_o which_o he_o recite_v 2_o i_o must_v tell_v mr._n danvers_n that_o the_o word_n he_o quote_v do_v it_o prove_v rainerius_n charge_v they_o with_o