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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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part_n 2._o pag._n 76._o l._n 1._o quest_n 12._o but_o what_o if_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o shall_v ordain_v the_o officer_n then_o answ_n in_o such_o church_n where_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n and_o the_o church_n so_o desire_v discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n we_o see_v not_o why_o imposition_n of_o hand_n may_v not_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o other_o church_n platform_n of_o disc_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n 9_o sect_n 5._o quest_n 13._o be_v the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n to_o be_v dispense_v by_o the_o minister_n thereof_o only_o in_o public_a or_o in_o private_a also_o answ_n they_o must_v be_v dispense_v public_o in_o the_o presence_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n and_o with_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o church_n solemn_o assemble_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o confine_v preach_v to_o corner_n for_o wisdom_n cry_v open_o in_o the_o street_n prov._n 8.2_o 3._o and_o of_o old_a the_o church_n of_o the_o 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shall_v be_v such_o as_o shall_v suit_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o serve_v the_o end_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v that_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o the_o church_n dare_v not_o nor_o be_v meet_v she_o shall_v show_v herself_o to_o the_o enemy_n yet_o not_o then_o be_v the_o word_n nor_o sacrament_n private_o preach_v nor_o administer_v neither_o yet_o aught_o to_o be_v for_o though_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o house_n of_o a_o private_a man_n yet_o because_o they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v administer_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o congregation_n there_o be_v neither_o private_a preach_n nor_o private_a celebrate_n of_o the_o sacrament_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 3._o pag._n 28._o line_n 15_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 14._o to_o who_o be_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n to_o dispense_v the_o sacrament_n answ_n a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o
right_n to_o a_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n but_o he_o must_v come_v to_o it_o in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n that_o be_v the_o party_n must_v be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n because_o the_o seal_n can_v there_o only_o be_v right_o and_o orderly_o administer_v i_o say_v it_o be_v sufficient_a the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 65._o l._n 26._o yet_o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o such_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o membership_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n and_o manifest_v their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n by_o a_o open_a profession_n thereof_o before_o they_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o else_o not_o be_v admit_v thereunto_o platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 12_o sect_n 7._o quest_n 15._o how_o be_v this_o trial_n and_o examination_n to_o be_v make_v answ_n in_o case_n any_o through_o excessive_a fear_n or_o other_o infirmity_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n be_v unable_a to_o make_v the_o relation_n of_o their_o spiritual_a estate_n in_o public_a it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o elder_n have_v receive_v private_a satisfaction_n make_v relation_n thereof_o in_o public_a before_o the_o church_n they_o testify_v their_o assent_n thereunto_o this_o be_v the_o way_n that_o tend_v most_o to_o edification_n platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 12._o sect_n 4._o and_o this_o be_v necessary_a for_o some_o and_o warrantable_a for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o without_o exception_n to_o receive_v all_o woman_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 3._o pag._n 6._o line_n 37._o quest._n 16._o but_o may_v those_o that_o be_v member_n of_o one_o church_n partake_v of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o another_o answ_n the_o member_n of_o one_o church_n occasional_o come_v to_o another_o discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n we_o willing_o admit_v they_o to_o partake_v with_o we_o at_o the_o lord_n table_n it_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o our_o communion_n not_o only_o with_o christ_n nor_o only_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 15._o sect_n 4._o quest_n 17._o but_o this_o privilege_n be_v restrain_v only_o to_o member_n of_o gather_a church_n be_v it_o not_o answ_n the_o member_n that_o come_v commend_v from_o the_o faithful_a congregation_n in_o england_n to_o we_o here_o hooker_n mr._n hooker_n so_o that_o it_o do_v appear_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n whence_o they_o come_v that_o they_o be_v by_o they_o approve_v and_o not_o scandalous_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o church_n communion_n with_o we_o as_o member_n of_o other_o church_n in_o new_a engl._n in_o like_a case_n so_o commend_v and_o approve_v hooker_n survey_v preface_n a._n 3._o quest_n 18._o be_v the_o administration_n of_o man_n outward_o call_v to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n valid_a though_o the_o person_n themselves_o be_v destitute_a of_o inward_a sanctity_n and_o save_a grace_n answ_n who_o ever_o in_o a_o regular_a way_n have_v receive_v this_o outward_a call_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n be_v a_o complete_a and_o true_a officer_n and_o may_v act_v any_o part_n of_o his_o office_n though_o not_o inward_o grace_v and_o fit_v worthy_o for_o such_o a_o place_n and_o work_v by_o god_n the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n have_v this_o outward_a call_n to_o that_o office_n therefore_o they_o must_v be_v hear_v by_o god_n own_o charge_n though_o they_o be_v most_o unworthy_a man_n have_v neither_o sufficiency_n of_o part_n to_o do_v the_o work_n of_o the_o place_n nor_o yet_o sincerity_n of_o heart_n and_o life_n to_o endeavour_v much_o less_o to_o discharge_v the_o weight_n of_o the_o service_n which_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o they_o be_v blind_a guide_n paint_a sepulcher_n gross_o hypocritical_a and_o scandalous_o vile_a in_o their_o general_a course_n corrupt_v the_o law_n by_o their_o false_a and_o unlearned_a gloss_n and_o pervert_v the_o simple_a by_o their_o lewd_a carriage_n pollute_v all_o god_n ordinance_n by_o their_o corrupt_a handle_n and_o administration_n thereof_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 45._o line_n 34._o quest_n 19_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_a distinct_a from_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n answ_n the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o office_n of_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n 7._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 20._o why_o be_v this_o officer_n call_v a_o roll_a elder_n answ_n the_o roll_a elder_n be_v not_o so_o call_v to_o exclude_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n from_o rule_v discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n but_o because_o rule_v and_o govern_v be_v common_a to_o these_o with_o the_o other_o whereas_o attend_v to_o teach_v and_o preach_v the_o word_n be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o former_a platform_n of_o disc_n chap._n 7._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 21._o how_o do_v you_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o office_n as_o a_o roll_a elder_n appoint_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o church_n answ_n that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o office_n and_o officer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n as_o the_o scripture_n be_v plain_a to_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v not_o prepossessed_a and_o forestalled_n with_o prejudice_n so_o this_o have_v be_v maintain_v by_o many_o of_o christ_n worthy_n of_o former_a and_o of_o late_a time_n so_o that_o we_o have_v no_o controversy_n here_o but_o with_o hierarchical_a person_n the_o force_n of_o who_o argument_n lie_v especial_o in_o a_o pursuivant_n and_o a_o prison_n arm_v with_o authority_n of_o a_o high_a commission_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o p._n 8._o l._n 11._o quest_n 22._o but_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o to_o bottom_n this_o office_n upon_o answ_n the_o first_o argument_n we_o have_v from_o rom._n 12.7_o cotton_n mr._n cotton_n he_o that_o rule_v with_o diligence_n mr._n hooker_n part_n 2._o p._n 8._o l._n 28._o hooker_n mr._n hooker_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 13._o line_n 31._o the_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o god_n have_v set_v in_o his_o church_n government_n mr._n hooker_n part_n 2._o page_n 10._o line_n 15._o mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 15._o line_n 29._o a_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o that_o famous_a place_n which_o be_v full_a to_o the_o purpose_n let_v the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o be_v count_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n 1_o tim._n 5.17_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_n 2._o page_n 11._o line_n 25._o mr._n cotton_v way_n page_n 19_o line_n 17._o quest_n 23._o what_o be_v the_o work_n of_o the_o roll_a elder_n answ_n the_o roll_a elder_n work_n be_v to_o join_v with_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o those_o act_n of_o spiritual_a rule_n which_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n commit_v to_o they_o discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n of_o which_o sort_n be_v these_o that_o follow_v 1._o to_o open_v and_o shut_v the_o door_n of_o god_n house_n by_o admission_n of_o member_n ordination_n of_o officer_n excommunication_n of_o offender_n restore_v of_o penitent_n 2._o to_o call_v the_o church_n together_o when_o there_o be_v occasion_n and_o seasonable_o to_o dismiss_v they_o again_o 3._o to_o prepare_v matter_n in_o private_a that_o in_o public_a they_o may_v be_v carry_v on_o with_o less_o trouble_n and_o more_o speedy_a dispatch_n 4._o to_o moderate_v the_o carriage_n of_o all_o matter_n in_o the_o church_n assemble_v to_o propound_v matter_n to_o the_o church_n to_o order_v the_o season_n of_o speech_n and_o silence_n to_o pronounce_v sentence_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n 5._o to_o be_v guide_n and_o leader_n to_o the_o church_n in_o all_o matter_n whatsoever_o pertain_v to_o church-administrations_a and_o action_n 6._o to_o see_v that_o none_o in_o the_o church_n live_v inordinate_o and_o out_o of_o rank_n and_o place_n without_o a_o calling_n or_o idle_o in_o their_o call_n 7._o to_o prevent_v and_o heal_v such_o offence_n in_o life_n or_o doctrine_n which_o may_v corrupt_v the_o church_n 8._o to_o feed_v the_o flock_n of_o god_n with_o a_o word_n of_o admonition_n 9_o and_o as_o they_o shall_v be_v send_v for_o to_o visit_v and_o pray_v over_o their_o sick_a brethren_n 10._o
in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v partly_o in_o the_o ordinance_n that_o be_v dispense_v ibid._n p._n line_n 20._o quest_n 4._o what_o be_v essential_a in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o ordinance_n answ_n in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o kind_n of_o officer_n appoint_v to_o that_o work_n the_o nature_n bound_n and_o limit_n of_o their_o office_n all_o these_o be_v essential_o mr._n hooker_n ibid._n line_n 22._o quest_n 5._o what_o be_v the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o disperse_v answ_n the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o dispense_v be_v preach_v prayer_n seal_n church_n censure_n etc._n etc._n these_o all_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o word_n a_o fetch_v from_o the_o word_n and_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o place_n among_o all_o people_n at_o all_o time_n in_o all_o succeed_a generation_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n ibid._n line_n 25._o quest_n 6._o may_v there_o then_o be_v no_o alteration_n in_o these_o thing_n which_o you_o call_v essential_o answ_n it_o be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o power_n of_o person_n officer_n church_n nor_o all_o the_o state_n in_o the_o world_n to_o add_v or_o diminish_v or_o alter_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o least_o measure_n but_o as_o god_n do_v appoint_v all_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o those_o institution_n do_v endure_v there_o ever_o as_o scripture_n speak_v until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o same_o power_n which_o appoint_v change_v they_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n where_o be_v to_o expect_v no_o alteration_n christ_n the_o lawgiver_n he_o only_o appoint_v none_o but_o he_o can_v and_o he_o have_v make_v know_v his_o will_n that_o he_o will_v not_o change_v they_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1._o p._n 5._o l._n 32._o quest_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o circumstantial_o of_o government_n answ_n the_o circumstantial_o of_o discipline_n as_o time_n place_n the_o carrying_z on_o of_o these_o dispensation_n in_o civil_a decency_n suitable_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n as_o peace_n and_o persecution_n the_o general_a rule_n of_o these_o be_v in_o the_o word_n deliver_v but_o the_o particular_a application_n admit_v variety_n mutability_n and_o alteration_n according_a as_o necessity_n or_o conveniency_n shall_v appear_v by_o emergent_a occasion_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1_o page_n 6._o line_n 3._o quest_n 8._o you_o have_v speak_v already_o of_o most_o of_o the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n namely_o officer_n and_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n but_o what_o say_v you_o of_o church_n censure_n be_v they_o necessary_a answ_n the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n for_o the_o prevent_n remove_v and_o heal_v of_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o reclaim_n and_o gain_v of_o offend_a brethren_n for_o the_o deter_v other_o from_o the_o like_a offence_n for_o purge_v out_o the_o leaven_n which_o may_v infect_v the_o whole_a lump_n for_o vindicate_v the_o honour_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o holy_a profession_n of_o his_o gospel_n and_o for_o prevent_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o may_v just_o fall_v upon_o the_o church_n if_o they_o shall_v suffer_v his_o covenant_n and_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o be_v profane_v by_o notorious_a and_o obstinate_a offender_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 9_o how_o many_o censure_n be_v there_o in_o the_o church_n answ_n three_o the_o first_o admonition_n the_o second_o suspension_n the_o three_o excommunication_n quest_n 10._o what_o be_v admonition_n answ_n admonition_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n the_o first_o more_o private_a when_o the_o offend_a brother_n admonish_v the_o offender_n of_o his_o offence_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n between_o he_o and_o the_o offender_n alone_o the_o second_o less_o private_a and_o yet_o not_o public_a when_o he_o take_v one_o or_o two_o with_o he_o platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 89._o quest_n 11._o but_o what_o if_o the_o offend_a party_n be_v not_o gain_v by_o either_o of_o these_o admonition_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o it_o to_o wit_n in_o god_n way_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 12._o quest_n 12._o what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o tell_v the_o church_n in_o god_n way_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n be_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o elder_n to_o tell_v it_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n sect_n 2._o that_o be_v he_o tell_v the_o elder_n who_o be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n that_o by_o they_o it_o may_v be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 13._o the_o matter_n must_v first_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o by_o they_o debate_v and_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o p._n 36_o l._n 2._o quest_n 13._o but_o why_o must_v the_o mattor_n be_v first_o bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o debate_v by_o they_o answ_n 1._o for_o that_o they_o be_v guide_n and_o leader_n of_o the_o church_n heb._n 13.17_o the_o watchman_n and_o overseer_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v know_v the_o cause_n and_o controversy_n to_o the_o full_a in_o all_o circumstance_n difficulty_n wind_n and_o turn_n thereof_o that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o lead_v the_o congregation_n in_o the_o way_n of_o peace_n and_o truth_n which_o they_o can_v do_v unless_o they_o know_v the_o way_n themselves_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 3._o 2._o to_o they_o it_o appertain_v to_o judge_v whether_o the_o thing_n be_v of_o weight_n and_o worth_n and_o so_o need_v and_o require_v the_o presence_n and_o assistance_n of_o the_o body_n to_o express_v their_o judgement_n against_o they_o and_o the_o party_n guilty_a of_o they_o or_o no_o for_o if_o they_o be_v petty_a business_n and_o altogether_o unfit_a and_o unworthy_a to_o trouble_v the_o congregation_n withal_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o prevent_v such_o causeless_a and_o needless_a disturbance_n and_o therefore_o to_o suppress_v any_o further_a proceed_n therein_o mr._n hooker_n part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 10._o object_n but_o by_o this_o mean_n if_o the_o elder_n be_v corrupt_a in_o judgement_n or_o partial_a in_o affection_n they_o may_v silence_v the_o weight_a cause_n that_o can_v be_v and_o so_o prejudice_v the_o innocency_n of_o those_o they_o be_v not_o friendly_a to_o and_o hinder_v the_o reformation_n of_o those_o who_o in_o a_o corrupt_a and_o partial_a way_n they_o sinful_o favour_n answ_n therefore_o as_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o suppress_v such_o petty_a occasion_n as_o be_v not_o worthy_a the_o time_n pain_n and_o disturbance_n that_o must_v be_v spend_v upon_o they_o so_o yet_o to_o prevent_v injustice_n and_o 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42._o line_n 7._o quest_n 19_o but_o what_o if_o the_o case_n prove_v doubtful_a and_o there_o arise_v a_o difference_n between_o the_o elder_n and_o the_o brethren_n answ_n if_o the_o case_n be_v doubtful_a and_o the_o difference_n grow_v wide_a and_o great_a it_o be_v then_o seasonable_a to_o crave_v the_o counsel_n and_o help_v of_o neighbour_a church_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o page_n 40._o line_n 15._o quest_n 20._o may_v not_o the_o brethren_n proceed_v to_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n without_o the_o elder_n answ_n excommunication_n be_v one_o of_o the_o high_a act_n of_o rule_n in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v perform_v but_o by_o some_o ruler_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n page_n 16._o line_n 6._o object_n but_o the_o twenty_o four_o elder_n who_o represent_v the_o private_a member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o four_o live_a creature_n do_v the_o four_o officer_n have_v all_o of_o they_o crown_n upon_o their_o head_n and_o sit_v 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