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pagan_n and_o we_o with_o puritan_n both_o derider_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o christ_n cross_n informer_n of_o sign_v ourselves_o not_o child_n only_o in_o baptism_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o speak_v very_o superstitious_o we_o use_v sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n both_o in_o the_o forehead_n and_o elsewhere_o caro_fw-la signatur_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la muniatur_fw-la say_v tertullian_n and_o so_o we_o mountagu_n not_o only_o in_o baptism_n tell_v i_o then_o be_v you_o come_v so_o far_o home_o unto_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o to_o allow_v sign_v with_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n that_o popish_a ceremony_n as_o your_o forefather_n and_o patriarch_n of_o the_o schism_n be_v wont_a to_o exclaim_v against_o it_o there_o be_v hope_v you_o may_v grow_v in_o time_n upon_o better_a advice_n in_o love_n and_o practice_n with_o some_o of_o m._n mountagu_n popery_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o forehead_n and_o elsewhere_o if_o it_o be_v not_o superstitious_a to_o sign_n in_o the_o forehead_n why_o be_v it_o to_o sign_n any_o other_o part_n of_o the_o body_n why_o more_o out_o of_o baptism_n than_o in_o baptism_n be_v one_o part_n of_o the_o body_n more_o subject_a and_o liable_a to_o superstition_n than_o another_o the_o breast_n or_o belly_n or_o arm_n than_o be_v the_o forehead_n superstition_n be_v in_o subjecto_fw-la or_o in_o actione_n in_o that_o if_o you_o fasten_v superstition_n you_o must_v give_v we_o some_o reason_n why_o one_o part_n be_v more_o subject_n and_o liable_a unto_o it_o than_o another_o and_o wherefore_o you_o put_v this_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o part_n and_o concern_v action_n religious_a and_o pious_a action_n be_v more_o liable_a to_o superstition_n to_o be_v commit_v in_o they_o than_o common_a civil_a or_o ordinary_a action_n be_v nay_o all_o superstition_n whatsoever_o reflect_v upon_o religion_n it_o be_v not_o but_o in_o such_o act_n as_o be_v of_o themselves_o or_o apply_o act_n of_o religion_n and_o piety_n therefore_o in_o all_o probability_n if_o it_o be_v superstitious_a to_o sign_n the_o forehead_n without_o baptism_n it_o be_v more_o superstitious_a to_o do_v it_o in_o baptism_n nor_o can_v the_o injunction_n of_o the_o church_n give_v any_o privilege_n of_o immunity_n unto_o a_o superstitious_a action_n of_o itself_o to_o be_v use_v in_o point_n of_o piety_n without_o superstition_n for_o if_o to_o sign_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v superstitious_a in_o itself_o as_o by_o your_o opinion_n it_o seem_v to_o be_v then_o can_v the_o church_n command_v it_o to_o be_v use_v on_o the_o forehead_n in_o baptism_n because_o no_o act_n of_o the_o church_n can_v acquit_v and_o discharge_v the_o action_n of_o that_o natural_a and_o inherent_a property_n if_o it_o be_v not_o superstitious_a absolute_o original_o and_o in_o itself_o eat_v your_o word_n of_o superstition_n and_o elsewhere_o or_o give_v we_o some_o reason_n why_o extra_fw-la baptismum_fw-la it_o shall_v be_v superstition_n to_o use_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o to_o sign_n the_o breast_n forehead_n leg_n head_n or_o any_o one_o part_n or_o all_o the_o body_n and_o not_o so_o in_o baptism_n for_o the_o forehead_n the_o ancient_a church_n use_v it_o in_o baptism_n as_o we_o do_v tertullian_n speak_v of_o baptism_n the_o word_n remember_v caro_fw-la signatur_fw-la ut_fw-la anima_fw-la muniatur_fw-la which_o he_o learn_v not_o of_o martion_n nor_o montanus_n as_o some_o have_v fable_v but_o of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n before_o they_o be_v bear_v and_o you_o shall_v find_v if_o you_o overlook_v the_o place_n again_o that_o i_o remember_v the_o word_n for_o baptism_n and_o not_o otherwise_o you_o have_v chop_v off_o the_o vinculum_fw-la that_o tie_v my_o word_n together_o and_o relate_v they_o as_o if_o i_o cite_v tertullian_n in_o general_a term_n for_o any_o sign_v with_o the_o cross_n in_o any_o place_n at_o any_o time_n for_o which_o action_n though_o lawful_a i_o do_v not_o allege_v he_o i_o say_v though_o lawful_a for_o where_o be_v it_o forbid_v what_o hinder_v but_o that_o i_o may_v sign_n myself_o with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o any_o part_n of_o my_o body_n at_o any_o time_n at_o night_n when_o i_o go_v to_o bed_n in_o the_o morning_n when_o i_o rise_v at_o my_o go_v out_o at_o my_o return_v home_o the_o ancient_a church_n so_o use_v it_o out_o of_o baptism_n ordinary_o and_o so_o may_v we_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v without_o just_a scandal_n and_o superstition_n the_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n you_o will_v not_o deny_v you_o can_v if_o you_o know_v any_o thing_n in_o antiquity_n therefore_o i_o will_v not_o trouble_v you_o with_o testimony_n you_o shall_v only_o have_v some_o reason_n for_o their_o practice_n first_o out_o of_o cyril_n against_o julian_n remember_v in_o the_o apology_n against_o
recite_v none_o so_o here_o i_o may_v be_v suppose_v to_o tell_v he_o why_o not_o that_o i_o can_v supply_v he_o with_o some_o experiment_a effect_n out_o of_o the_o same_o or_o the_o like_a father_n whereunto_o his_o small_a read_n can_v not_o i_o be_o sure_a have_v not_o lead_v he_o and_o what_o if_o i_o mean_v some_o experiment_a effect_n of_o my_o own_o knowledge_n what_o then_o can_v you_o control_v or_o convince_v i_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o confess_v myself_o to_o you_o but_o what_o if_o upon_o diverse_a extremity_n i_o have_v find_v ease_n and_o remedy_n by_o use_v that_o ejaculatory_a prayer_n of_o our_o litany_n per_fw-la crucem_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o thy_o cross_n and_o when_o i_o say_v it_o what_o if_o to_o testify_v my_o faith_n i_o make_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o by_o thy_o passion_n good_a lord_n deliver_v we_o i_o can_v tell_v what_o you_o will_v say_v but_o you_o know_v well_o that_o some_o of_o your_o lewd_a forefather_n have_v account_v this_o and_o a_o great_a deal_n more_o of_o that_o heavenly_a prayer_n to_o be_v no_o better_o than_o conjure_v if_o you_o will_v be_v right_o inform_v master-informer_n it_o be_v not_o by_o the_o bare_a sign_n of_o the_o cross_n that_o any_o such_o effect_n come_v but_o by_o the_o virtue_n and_o force_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o passion_n then_o remember_v and_o at_o that_o time_n represent_v by_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n it_o be_v true_a miracle_n be_v cease_v but_o what_o if_o this_o be_v none_o what_o if_o so_o cease_v that_o notwithstanding_o god_n can_v and_o may_v and_o will_v and_o do_v sometime_o work_v even_o miracle_n in_o these_o day_n chrysostome_n say_v they_o be_v cease_v in_o his_o time_n to._n 5._o pa._n 605._o yet_o he_o elsewhere_o relate_v many_o miracle_n do_v even_o in_o his_o day_n his_o meaning_n be_v they_o be_v cease_v from_o the_o frequent_a and_o ordinary_a use_n some_o extraordinary_a use_n of_o they_o may_v then_o and_o yet_o may_v be_v for_o ought_v you_o know_v or_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v the_o contrary_n the_o cross_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o external_a sign_n thereof_o be_v as_o much_o vilify_v and_o despise_v by_o furious_a puritan_n in_o these_o day_n as_o ever_o it_o be_v by_o frantic_a pagan_n in_o those_o why_o may_v not_o god_n to_o teach_v man_n better_a manner_n and_o to_o check_v this_o exorbitancy_n against_o the_o sign_n of_o our_o dear_a redeemer_n death_n antiquum_fw-la obtinere_fw-la do_v now_o as_o he_o have_v do_v in_o the_o day_n of_o old_a and_o show_v some_o sign_n and_o token_n to_o magnify_v the_o thing_n so_o much_o despise_v sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o have_v enough_o take_v it_o which_o way_n you_o will_v all_o be_v one_o to_o i_o it_o come_v next_o in_o the_o rear_n which_o also_o former_o do_v advance_v in_o front_n hear_v a_o argument_n of_o my_o informer_n presumption_n against_o almost_o the_o current_n of_o antiquity_n out_o of_o ignorance_n at_o least_o if_o not_o folly_n extreme_a chap._n xxviii_o the_o informer_n presumption_n against_o the_o current_n of_o antiquity_n informer_n in_o another_o place_n he_o say_v josuah_n in_o fight_n prevail_v against_o amalec_n through_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n rather_o than_o by_o the_o sword_n chap._n viii_o pag._n 66._o mountagu_n isaiah_n so_o indeed_o and_o be_v not_o you_o either_o ignorant_a or_o insolent_a you_o will_v not_o oppose_v or_o censure_v my_o say_n so_o for_o popery_n for_o almost_o which_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v not_o say_v it_o to_o instruct_v your_o ignorance_n or_o else_o to_o abate_v your_o arrogance_n take_v a_o particular_a of_o some_o of_o they_o for_o the_o purpose_n justin_n martyr_n against_o trypho_n pag._n 95._o and_o 99_o edit_n graec._n rob._n stephani_fw-la tertullian_n contr_n judaeos_fw-la pag._n 102._o and_o lib._n 3._o against_o martion_n in_o the_o same_o word_n and_o in_o other_o place_n cyprian_a lib._n 2._o cap._n 21._o testimon_n adv_fw-la jud._n s._n ambrose_n tom._n 5._o ser._n 52._o in_o diem_fw-la parasceves_fw-la hieron_n tom._n 5._o in_o xii_o osee_n pag._n 71._o chrysost_n tom._n 5._o pag._n 662._o and_o else_o where_o nazianz_n orat._n 6._o pag._n 137._o and_o those_o remarkable_a verse_n of_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v also_o intend_v by_o athanasius_n the_o great_a tom._n 1._o pag._n 406._o in_o this_o close_o couch_v manner_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o by_o his_o people_n israel_n work_v by_o his_o secret_a and_o mystical_a grace_n and_o power_n do_v vanquish_v amalech_n in_o fight_n in_o a_o point_n of_o this_o nature_n i_o can_v be_v content_v to_o be_v censure_v for_o a_o papist_n with_o these_o and_o the_o like_a worthy_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o may_v blush_v for_o your_o ignorance_n and_o presumption_n chap._n xxix_o touch_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n the_o informer_n draw_v low_o when_o they_o leave_v matter_n and_o take_v offence_n at_o word_n and_o phrase_n the_o antiquity_n of_o altar_n a_o sacrifice_n representative_a and_o spiritual_a acknowledge_v by_o all_o the_o author_n herein_o far_o from_o popery_n than_o the_o informer_n from_o puritanisme_n informer_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n he_o write_v very_o popish_o mountagu_n i_o very_o do_v he_o indeed_o lo._n our_o dear_a brethren_n be_v here_o clean_o out_o of_o patience_n hitherto_o their_o progress_n have_v be_v from_o savour_v to_o say_v and_o write_v marry_v it_o be_v but_o simple_a popery_n now_o upon_o improvement_n he_o write_v very_a popish_o for_o first_o he_o call_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n in_o express_a term_n not_o as_o use_v their_o phrase_n but_o his_o own_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n very_o popish_a forsooth_o to_o use_v a_o word_n no_o stranger_n in_o the_o world_n and_o my_o good_a brethren_n have_v not_o yourselves_o as_o holy_a and_o precise_a as_o you_o will_v seem_v use_v the_o like_a phrase_n have_v you_o not_o name_v the_o mass_n and_o purgatory_n and_o transubstantiation_n and_o the_o like_a without_o any_o adjection_n of_o as_o they_o call_v it_o or_o so_o mo_z time_n than_o you_o have_v finger_n and_o toe_n i_o doubt_v not_o then_o sure_a out_o of_o your_o own_o mouth_n you_o speak_v very_o popish_o and_o which_o must_v follow_v in_o your_o inference_n against_o mast_n mountagu_n be_v very_a papist_n in_o suffer_v such_o profane_a word_n to_o flee_v over_o the_o hedge_n of_o your_o tooth_n and_o yet_o m._n mountagu_n speak_v by_o way_n of_o concession_n you_o have_v let_v those_o word_n slip_v from_o you_o absolute_o sir_n carnifex_n of_o word_n and_o tormentor_n of_o phrase_n i_o can_v answer_v you_o as_o tertullian_n and_o athenagoras_n do_v the_o elder_a pagan_n you_o draw_v low_a upon_o the_o lees_n of_o malice_n &_o detraction_n when_o you_o have_v nothing_o leave_v but_o word_n and_o phrase_n to_o calumniate_v but_o i_o rather_o choose_v to_o speak_v in_o our_o b._n morton_n word_n apologize_v 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quo_fw-la jure_fw-la quam_fw-la rectè_fw-la it_o be_v confess_v the_o truth_n be_v you_o can_v deny_v the_o thing_n but_o with_o you_o puritan_n this_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v popery_n and_o here_o you_o infer_v necessary_o that_o priest_n have_v no_o more_o power_n to_o do_v this_o than_o layman_n have_v for_o what_o else_o can_v you_o mean_v by_o and_o none_o but_o priest_n but_o either_o that_o neither_o one_o nor_o other_o have_v that_o power_n or_o else_o that_o one_o as_o much_o and_o as_o great_a as_o other_o to_o which_o you_o incline_v i_o can_v say_v assure_o no_o great_a difference_n for_o both_o be_v exact_a puritanisine_n you_o cast_v confession_n upon_o both_o one_o and_o other_o any_o layman_n may_v hear_v it_o as_o well_o as_o a_o priest_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v probable_a you_o will_v not_o be_v very_o precise_a for_o absolution_n to_o confer_v it_o on_o a_o layman_n as_o well_o as_o on_o a_o priest_n so_o the_o 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can_v be_v invest_v with_o it_o but_o by_o commission_n priest_n only_o have_v this_o commission_n from_o christ_n unto_o who_o he_o say_v as_o my_o father_n send_v i_o so_o send_v i_o you_o and_o receive_v you_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o sin_n you_o remit_v they_o be_v remit_v etc._n etc._n this_o commission_n as_o they_o may_v do_v any_o those_o that_o have_v it_o under_o seal_n in_o good_a warrant_n may_v abuse_v and_o so_o they_o have_v do_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o that_o abuse_n do_v not_o evacuate_v the_o commission_n not_o in_o the_o exceeder_n and_o transgresser_n much_o less_o in_o they_o that_o exceed_v not_o they_o have_v abuse_v it_o for_o say_v one_o sacerdos_n utitur_fw-la ipsissimâ_fw-la christi_fw-la potestate_fw-la in_o remittendis_fw-la peccatis_fw-la it_o be_v bullenger_n in_o diatribis_fw-la pag._n 267._o that_o be_v primaria_fw-la authoritativa_fw-la if_o it_o be_v ipsissima_fw-la not_o secundaria_fw-la &_o delegata_fw-la for_o our_o late_a master_n 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and_o that_o because_o ea_fw-la adhibent_fw-la per_fw-la quae_fw-la deus_fw-la dimittit_fw-la peccata_fw-la &_o that_o gratiam_fw-la to_o conclude_v the_o master_n of_o their_o sentence_n their_o ancient_a rituall_n their_o formal_a word_n of_o absolution_n teach_v they_o better_a doctrine_n than_o now_o they_o teach_v aliter_fw-la deus_fw-la solvit_fw-la vel_fw-la ligat_fw-la aliter_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ipse_fw-la enim_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la tantùm_fw-la dimittit_fw-la peccatum_fw-la quia_fw-la animam_fw-la mundat_fw-la à _fw-la maculâ_fw-la interiori_fw-la &_o à _fw-la debito_fw-la mortis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la solvit_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la concessit_fw-la quibus_fw-la tamen_fw-la tribuit_fw-la solvendi_fw-la &_o ligandi_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ostendendi_fw-la homines_fw-la ligatos_fw-la vel_fw-la solutos_fw-la potestatem_fw-la vnde_fw-la dominus_fw-la leprosum_fw-la sanitati_fw-la prius_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la restituit_fw-la deinde_fw-la misit_fw-la ad_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la quorum_fw-la judicio_fw-la ostenderetur_fw-la solutus_fw-la set_v some_o rigorous_a puritan_n aside_o that_o like_o no_o religion_n but_o one_o of_o their_o own_o make_n and_o yet_o in_o all_o probability_n will_v not_o hold_v that_o long_o i_o think_v there_o be_v few_o calvinist_n as_o you_o call_v your_o divine_n that_o will_v wrench_n at_o this_o so_o that_o it_o must_v unavoideable_o be_v one_o of_o these_o two_o the_o good_a man_n either_o know_v not_o the_o tenet_n of_o their_o own_o doctor_n and_o divine_n of_o the_o more_o temperate_a sort_n and_o that_o also_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n or_o covert_o mislike_v the_o one_o and_o other_o but_o dare_v not_o do_v it_o open_o and_o give_v the_o whole_a church_n the_o affront_n so_o palpable_o with_o a_o brazen_a forehead_n they_o undertake_v it_o by_o traduce_v m._n mountagu_n for_o a_o papist_n who_o they_o know_v to_o be_v no_o puritan_n thus_o wound_v their_o mother_n through_o their_o brother_n side_n chap._n xxxvii_o the_o conclusion_n the_o issue_n of_o yates_n and_o his_o fellow-jnformers_a fond_a accusation_n other_o fly_a report_n and_o defamation_n neglect_v the_o author_n be_v humble_a submission_n unto_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o to_o his_o most_o sacred_a majesty_n thus_o far_o these_o zealous_a one_o have_v uncharitable_o inform_v and_o have_v make_v a_o great_a noise_n and_o hubbub_n in_o the_o church_n and_o state_n of_o error_n dangerous_a error_n god_n know_v how_o far_o or_o wherein_o arminianism_n popery_n teach_v and_o deliver_v by_o m._n mountagu_n much_o suspect_v nothing_o yet_o prove_v great_a clamour_n and_o outcry_n of_o i_o know_v not_o what_o or_o wherefore_o as_o if_o annibal_n be_v add_v portas_fw-la and_o popery_n ready_a to_o be_v restate_v in_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n so_o the_o beacon_n be_v fire_v by_o certain_a frantic_a fellow_n that_o be_v fright_v with_o panic_n fear_n and_o by_o they_o the_o neighbour_a country_n be_v disturb_v without_o cause_n a_o field_n of_o thistle_n seem_v once_o a_o battle_n of_o pike_n unto_o some_o discoverer_n of_o the_o duke_n of_o burgundy_n you_o can_v apply_v what_o i_o exemplify_v i_o go_v no_o far_o but_o leave_v you_o to_o yourselves_o and_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a unto_o more_o charitable_a conceit_n of_o those_o that_o deserve_v no_o other_o imputation_n but_o they_o be_v no_o puritan_n which_o god_n in_o goodness_n keep_v out_o of_o this_o church_n and_o state_n as_o dangerous_a as_o popery_n for_o any_o thing_n i_o be_o able_a to_o discern_v the_o only_a difference_n be_v popery_n be_v for_o tyranny_n puritanisme_n for_o anarchy_n popery_n be_v original_a of_o superstition_n puritanisme_n the_o highway_n unto_o profaneness_n both_o alike_a enemy_n unto_o piety_n other_o accusation_n there_o be_v that_o walk_n in_o corner_n and_o fly_v abroad_o by_o owl-light_n as_o bat_n or_o beetle_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o will_v i_o have_v regard_v those_o idle_a articler_n those_o that_o in_o their_o information_n have_v carry_v themselves_o so_o magisterial_o upon_o ignorance_n and_o malice_n one_o way_n but_o presumption_n and_o opinion_n of_o their_o own_o knowledge_n another_o way_n be_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o tatianus_n will_v call_v they_o but_o that_o they_o profess_v themselves_o public_a promoter_n and_o exhibit_v information_n ut_fw-la de_fw-la rerum_fw-la summâ_fw-la it_o be_v my_o part_n and_o duty_n not_o to_o neglect_v my_o own_o innocence_n but_o to_o discover_v and_o lay_v open_a their_o predominant_a frenzy_n to_o view_v in_o some_o part_n and_o ignorant_a stupidity_n in_o common_a tenant_n they_o myself_o whatsoever_o i_o have_v say_v or_o do_v or_o shall_v hereafter_o do_v any_o way_n libens_fw-la merito_fw-la more_fw-it majorum_fw-la now_o and_o ever_o i_o have_v i_o do_v i_o will_v refer_v and_o submit_v and_o in_o most_o low_o devote_v humble_a sort_n prostrate_a upon_o bend_a knee_n unto_o this_o church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o true_a defender_n thereof_o his_o most_o sacred_a majesty_n humble_o crave_v that_o royal_a protection_n which_o sometime_o william_n ockam_n do_v of_o lewes_n of_o baviere_n the_o emperor_n domine_fw-la imperator_fw-la defend_v i_o gladio_fw-la et_fw-la ego_fw-la te_fw-la defendam_fw-la calamo_fw-la finis_fw-la enchirid._n c._n 17._o 17._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hym._n 2._o 2._o artic._n 16._o page_n 54._o of_o the_o last_o edition_n page_n 57_o 57_o form_n of_o private_a baptism_n baptism_n catechism_n answ_o 2._o 2._o rubric_n before_o the_o catechism_n catechism_n s._n greg._n nyssen_n orat_fw-la de_fw-fr baptism_n s._n leo_n the_o nat_n christ_n serm_n 5._o optat_fw-la cont_n parm_n l._n 5._o tert._n the_o baptism_n cap._n 5._o s._n cyp._n ep_n 59_o &_o ep_n 2._o council_n carth._n apud_fw-la s._n aug_n ep_n 90._o quicunque_fw-la negat_fw-la parvulos_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la christi_fw-la à _fw-la perditione_n liberari_fw-la et_fw-la salutem_fw-la percipere_fw-la aeternam_fw-la anathema_n sit_v s._n aug_n epist_n 157._o s._n chrys_n hom_n 40._o in_o 1._o cor._n prosp._n de_fw-fr vocat_fw-la gent._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 5._o s._n basil_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la s._n ambr._n de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 7._o et_fw-la alii_fw-la alii_fw-la s._n hieron_n cont_n jovin_n l._n 2._o s._n auo._n de_fw-fr cor_fw-la &_o great_a c._n 8._o idem_fw-la ep_n 59_o et_fw-la ep_n 107._o s._n prosp._n ad_fw-la cap._n gallor_fw-la p._n 99_o s._n bern._n ep_n 42._o et_fw-la alibi_fw-la saepissimè_fw-la s._n cyp._n l._n 1._o de_fw-la unit_fw-la eccl._n s._n athanas_n cont_n arrian_n rat_n 4._o s._n bas._n ep_n ad_fw-la chilonem_fw-la chilonem_fw-la cap._n de_fw-fr concionatoribus_fw-la calvin_n instit_n 3._o 21._o 5._o ibid._n cicero_n i._n de_fw-fr divin_n pag._n 151._o edit_n rob._n steph_n ad_fw-la monimum_fw-la tert._n de_fw-fr speetac_fw-la ca._n z._n clem_n alex._n strom._n 5._o pa._n 261_o eccles_n 7._o 31._o s._n greg._n naz_n orat._n 42._o pa._n 696._o s._n basil_n hom._n quòd_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la author_n malorum_fw-la 2._o tim_n 2._o 20_o 21._o s._n chrysost_o tom_fw-mi 5._o pa._n 551._o prosp._n de_fw-fr vocat_fw-la gent._n l._n 2._o 2._o harm_n synod_n belg._n cap._n 13._o can_n 8._o appeal_v lib._n 2._o ca._n 1._o §._o 11._o cicero_n de_fw-fr nat._n deor._n 1._o appeal_v pag._n 214._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 18._o disp_n 1._o pa._n 1._o num_fw-la 4._o lib._n 6._o cap._n 8._o lib._n 4_o cap._n 7._o the_o justif_a s._n aug_n the_o great_a &_o libero_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la cap._n 17._o s._n aug_n de_fw-fr sp._n &_o lit._n tom_n 3._o cap._n 33._o rome_n 13._o 10._o s._n aug_n tom_fw-mi 2._o epist_n 89._o r._n tapperus_n art_n 7._o de_fw-fr lib._n arb_n theod_n beza_n opusc_n tom_fw-mi 2._o pag._n 666._o part_n 1._o quaest_n prosp._n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gent._n 1._o 3._o 3._o this_o branch_n of_o the_o try_v council_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o second_o araus_n council_n can._n xxv_o in_o 1._o sent._n do_v 38._o de_fw-fr pec_fw-fr orig_n 2._o 3._o damascen_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-la fide_fw-la orth_n cap._n 27._o s._n aug_n prosp._n de_fw-fr voc_fw-la gent._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 9_o s._n leo_n ser_n 5._o in_o epiph._n lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 17._o page_n 443._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 27._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o pag._n cc1_n page_n 11._o jesuit_n pag._n 2._o synop._n pag._n 69._o page_n 661._o pag._n 361._o de_fw-fr eccles_n 3._o 13_o inst_n 3._o 148._o in_o 2._o ad_fw-la gal._n 16_o pa._n ib._n in_o def._n in_o 3._o gal._n ver_fw-la 22._o lib._n de_fw-fr reform_v ecclesiae_fw-la de_fw-fr pudic_fw-la c._n 19_o perk_n in_o gal._n 2_o tert._n de_fw-fr put_fw-mi cap._n 20._o epist_n 1._o hom._n 3._o of_o faith_n com._n in_o 3._o ad_fw-la gal._n ver_fw-la 12._o ad_fw-la gal._n cap._n 2._o pag._n 209._o lib._n 14._o de_fw-fr trin._n cap._n 17._o psal_n 103._o 2_o 3._o bellar_n de_fw-fr justif_a 5._o 17._o stapleton_n prompt_v cathol_n pag._n 245._o epist_n 1._o lib._n 1._o ad_fw-la apol._n tort_fw-fr pa._n 196._o s._n chrys_n to_o 5._o pag._n 322._o edit_n savil_n s._n high_a cont_n jovin_n l._n 1._o c._n 7_o de_fw-fr s._n virg._n c._n 30_o serm._n lxi_o de_fw-fr temp._n s._n chrysost_o to._n v_o in_o illud_fw-la salutate_fw-la priscillam_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 322._o artic._n 3._o tractat._n contra_fw-la graecos_n edit_n à _fw-fr p._n stewartio_n pag._n 565._o ad_fw-la magnes_fw-la tert._n contra_fw-la mar._n iu._n 14._o lib._n canonum_fw-la edit_fw-la anno_fw-la 1571_o in_o 3._o send_v d._n 12._o epist_n 99_o par._n 3._o qu._n 25._o be_v 3._o to._n 1._o lib._n 9_o ca._n 6_o de_fw-fr imag._n c._n 11._o n._n 1._o pag._n 203._o ad_fw-la apol_n bel._n resp_n ad_fw-la apol._n bel._n p._n 198._o haeres_fw-la 30._o quae_fw-la est_fw-la eâ—_n 10._o ho._n 8._o ad_fw-la rom._n qu._n 79._o deobit_n theodosii_n junius_n animad_fw-la c._n bel._n de_fw-fr imag._n ca._n 29._o prisci_fw-la illi_fw-la patres_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la virtutem_fw-la operationem_fw-la salutarem_fw-la christi_fw-la implorabant_fw-la profitebantur_fw-la occupabant_fw-la adhibito_fw-la signo_fw-la externo_fw-la crucis_fw-la cujus_fw-la simplicitate_fw-la omne_fw-la daemonun_n ethnicorumque_fw-la ludibria_fw-la cluderent_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la contr._n baron_n in_o exerc._n in_v pag._n 339._o to._n 3._o d._n 2._o §_o 2._o