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A76800	The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations.	Blackwood, Christopher.	1644 (1644)	Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842	101,204	126

and all bodies Nationall make one body Catholike then must there be a sutable soul to animate this body but this cannot be Christ nor his spirit therefore must it be Antichrist who hath overshadowed the whole world under the cloud of a visible catholike Church 2 Particular church or churches which is no other then a company of Saints in profession explicitely or implicitely consenting together to worship God in the Word Sacraments and Prayer and all other duties of Religion Now whereas there is mention made of churches in some particular mens houses as in the houses of Philemon Aquila and others I suppose the churches in those houses were no distinct kinde of churches from those that were named in Townes and Cities but they were so called because the brethren did meet to worship God in these principall mens houses and because its like there were divers beleevers in those houses When the Apostles came to this or that City we must not think that multitudes were converted at once but now one and then one so that often the constituted churches were so small that they could well meet together in one place in one private house Now whereas some others have laboured to find a Presbyteriall church in no place in all the New Testament are the Elders or Presbytery cleerly so called though many have laboured with all their power herein to finde it Much lesse is there any shadow of a parochiall church but it hath been brought in by Antichrist of late dayes Instead of a Parhagiall church consisting of Saints Antichrist hath brought in a Parochiall church consisting of a multitude meaning the cohabiting multitude These things being thus premised we will set down these signes of a Church as they do in order of nature present themselves These are sixe the three former necessary to the being the three latter to the well-being of a church The first is a right matter viz. visible Saints as was proved before 1 Cor. 14 33. Matter towards the production of being is in order though not in time before form therefore it is essentially requisitie to a well constituted church that there be a right matter We will not here dispute whether churches failing in the matter cease to be churches But this is enough that we know God requires such a matter henceforth such matter must the churches have to be right as the Apostolicall churches had but they had Saints for the matter of their churches therefore so must we have Beleeve it we are beholding for the recovery of this truth to our brethren nick-named Independants which is as precious a truth about church order as ever was recovered from the spoiles of Antichrist for if the matter of churches be wrong let the wisest and holiest do what they can they shall never bring things into a comfortable order 2 The second Essentiall requisite to a consti uted church is agreement consent or covenant call it what you please the foundations of all societies are and have been established herein nor can this nor any other society be accidentally shuffled together as Cards in a pack or Lo●s in a Lot box therefore sanctified reason requires that a particular or visible church for these are terminis convertabiles be established by some kinde of covenant or agreement which to me seemeth sufficient if it came under no other precept but the precept of order yet have we examples both of the 3000. added to the Church at Jerusalem Acts 2.41 47. and the Apostle Acts 9 6. Paul assaying to joyne to the church who could not be admitted till Barnabas gave testimonie of him for those places which some alledge for this covenant from Deut. 26.17 18. and 29.10 11 12. Ier. 50.4 c. They were peculiar to the church of the Jewes and were used in point of Reformation not of Constitution and belongd onely to the church of the Jewes which did totâ specie differ from Evangelicall churches as having both Ordinances and Officers different they having Priests we Ministers They bodily Sacrifices of beasts We spirituall They having the presence of God confined to one place especially We having it where two or three are gathered in Christs Name Their service for the most part ceremoniall till time of Reformation Ours Morrall and perpetuall Their passeover eaten by all the family confined to a certain day with many other differences Yet when I speake thus of this covenant it s far from me to thinke that it doth give being to the Church It s one thing to give being to a thing per se or by it selfe and its another thing to concurre to the being of a thing meate and drinke doth not give being to the life of man though without it he could not live for if he had not rest and Phisicke and ayre and Stomack and digestive power he could not live though he had never so good meate and drinke So this covenant or agreement doth not give being to the church for a company of Arrians Socinians Papists c. may have a visible Sanctitie and enter thus into covenant yet will not we call them a church but a Synagoue of Satan because they want a right dispensation of doctrine and Sacraments This is such a necessary signe that one Church cannot be severed from another without it son why are you of this Church rather then of that Because there was such an agreement betwixt the Elders and members of this Church which was not betwixt the Elders and members of another The third signe is a right dispensation of the word and Sacraments That whereby the Apostolicall Churches were known from other societies is a signe of a true Church of Christ but they were known by this See this note first in constitution of Churches Acts 2.42 they continue● in the Apostles doctrine and fellowship and breaking of bread and in prayers Matth. 28.19 Christ sending forth the Apostles to convert and constitute Churches bids them only teach and baptize them as if he should say word and Sacraments are essentiall to his Church 2 In reformation when Iosiah would reform the Church of the jews he declares the doctrine of the law unto them 2 Kings 23.1 2 3.2 Chron. 34.30 31. when Ezra was to restore the Church after the captivity he layes this foundation for restoring of it he expounds the law to the people a practise well to bee thought of in these times fit for many congregations in this Kingdome who are not fit to pertake of any thing else save the word shortly after Ezra restored the worship of the Passeover according to the prescript of Moses Ezra 6.19 Apoc. 11.1 There was in the reformation of the Churches a reed to m●asure t●e Temilo and the worshippers therein this was no other but the word of God and Paul 1 Cor. 11. reforming the Church of Corinth teaches them the doctrine of the Sacrament of the Supper as he had received it from Christ verse 23. There are b●sides these three essentiall

I have adventured for the satisfaction of doubting consciences to publish these my thoughts what I have cited out of Antiquity I have done it in sincerity as in the sight of my conscience If in any thing else there bee a mistake let the reader consider in what untrodden paths our way lies I was not so incogitant as not to forethink that the Crosse of Christ was like to attend the confession of this tenent for I well foresaw it but the evidence of truth shining cleer unto me the Lord taught me not to consult with flesh and blood I know it will be no little guilt at the day of Christ for the gaining earthly goods and escaping temporall hazards to wincke at light for feare of convincement nor will then a Scholasticke frivolous distinction nor a Logicall fallacye stop the mouth of that Conscience from barking which now thereby is layen to sleepe There are divers things alleadged against this tenent or tenents 1 Antiquity To which I answer infants baptisme is ancient but nothing neere so ancient as the world is borne in hand the name of it is not in the world in the Apostles time nor many yeers after Was not Episcopacie giving the Lords supper to infants ancient putting away wives was ancient but from the beginning it was not so those things which have not been in force from the beginning cannot be in force by succession of time 2 The fewnesse of those that defend this I answer its true But 1 Truth hath often been locked up in the breast of few who in competition of voyces could not make their party good In the first Nicene Counsell Athanasius almost alone did oppose the Arguments of the Arrians Mort. de concil author lib. 4. cap. 8. pag. 361. Constantine the Arrian the son of Constantine did upbraid the orthodox that Athanasius with four or five more troubled the peace of all the world to whom Liberius Bishop of Rome said The word of faith is not diminished by my alonenesse Theodoret lib. 2. hist Eccle. cap. 16. whereby wee may see the uncertainty of stablishing Religion by plurality of votes 2. T●ere are but few that will examine things when times and preferment stand thwart few there were that stood against Nebuchadnezzars Decree Where losses are on the one hand and sufferings on the other few will examine in such cases not one of many will reason the matter with his own conscience and of those that doe reason not one of many will suffer conscience to speak out and of those that doe suffer conscience to speake what it can not one of many but he stifles conscience with a distinction The testimony of a few that are not blinded with temporall ends but swim painfully against the stream is not to be slighted 3 Might not the same things seven yeers agoe have been alleadged against the Prelacie Common prayer Booke few opposed these It s an hard thing to get an open heart to receive truths when Magistrates are opposite and the receiving hereof shall expose our selves and families to want and misery 3 The vniversality of those that defend infant baptisme both churches and learned men Though many of them have defended it as Luther Calvin c. Yet there have been many that have opposed it who have not wanted learning to defend their cause For churches I shall hereafter shew how they have erred I will now give one instance viz Their mistake in the matter of the church for so many hundred yeers taking mixt multitudes for the matter thereof when the Scripture makes Saints in profession the matter thereof Baptisme being appointed of Christ for differencing the matter of the church from all other societies surely a right baptisme failing in respect of the subject a right matter must needs fail these two errors like Hypocrates Twins were borne at the same time and will dye together Now that the Saints are the matter of the church peruse these places 1 Cor. 1.2 To the church which is at Corinthus Sanctified in Christ Iesus and called to be Saints 1 Cor. 14.33 God is not the God of confusion but of order as in all the churches of the Saints We see All the churches consisted of Saints Gal. 1.22 I was unknowne to the churches of Iudea which were in Christ 1 Thes 2.14 You became followers of the churches of God which in Iudea are in Christ Iesus 1 Thes 1.1 Paul and Silvanus unto the church of the Tessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Iesus Christ. We see what persons were churches even such as were deemed to be in Christ and in God 1 Cor. 10.17 We being many are one bread and one body Now how can carnall and civill men make one bread and one body with the Saints Apoc. 1.20 12. The Seven churches of Asia are called seven golden candlesticks which showes what kinde of matter the churches ought to consist of In a word to this objction of Churches I will onely oppose the calve worship in Israel that continued 200. yeares backt with authority and the many idolatries and corruptions that were universally upon every v●sible church in Antichrists Apostacy And for learned men I oppose the learned Fathers for the first 300. yeares or near upon not regarding the ●●thority of following times herein The fourth thing objected is that there are so many godly men among ●s that have suffered so much in the dayes of the Prelacy for standing out against them and these are contrary minded both those in the Synod and others out of it Ans 1. The examples of the holiest men are not rules for worship or conscience further then they follow the Scriptures Chrysostome saith there is more heed to be given to the Scriptures then to the voice of Angels 2 Godly men through slavish fears of povertie disgrace c. may be slow in receiving convinceable truths 3 One thing that may hinder godly men from receiving truthes may be the diminution of their own repute when they have formerly taught many glorious truthes and now they must come to be ashamed of their setting their posts against Gods posts Pezelius in his book of the Sacrament if my memory fail me not I having not the book by saith That wh●n none from Franckford Mart brought Calvins Institutions to Luther and after asked him what he thought of it He answered Profecto non inepte hic Author dixit Yet would he not recant what he had said lest the truth of all his doctrine should be cald in question but secretly as I have heard communicated his mistakes to Melancton 4 Many godly men especially those of the Synod have had little time to study this controversie being overburthened in their daily conferences and weekly preachings and the controversie was but newly begun to be inquired into in the beginning of their sitting 5 These godly men nor any other godly men in the world that I ever heard of suffered any thing for the defence of this

them out of Communion and so the matter of the churches come to be so corrupted that they are made uncapable of reformation for when the matter of Churches is rotten what hope is there that the churches will come into a pure state Better did the Nicene Councell that divided their Congregations into Hearers Catechumeni or persons catechised and Communicant The mixt multitude were hearers hopefull persons that had good desires were Chatechumini and those that were deemed believers were Communicants a practise much to be thought of in these times of reformation 2 It confounds the world and the church together which Christ hath severed Joh. 15.19 Joh. 17.9.14.15 Infants b●ptisme especially serving to christianize the prophane world who if men enlightned would speak what they think they must needs say they are not Christians no not one tenth part in too too many Congregations 3 It causes reproach to christianity when many persons that have been christianized only by their infants baptisme prove so unholy which Heathens look on as part of you yea though they be kept off from communion with you in the Lords Supper yet will it be hard to keep off such from the Supper their ignorance must be very grosse and their scandals very soul that keeps them off but more hard to keep them off if they lead civill lives and be rich especially if they understand some Catechisticall points though any christian man may see they are strangers from any life of grace 4 Wicked persons rest in the baptisme they had in their infancy without seeking after knowledge or grace whereas were they held a while up●n hope of acceptation into communion of churches they might be furthered to seek knowledge and restrain from grosse enormities whereas now supposing themselves Christians by their baptisme they received in infancy they care not to do either 5 It s a Nest-egge and ground work for traditions if we fall upon traditionary teachers Bell ●● d ve●b ● d●● 5. Mort A●ol part 2. l 1. c 39. Obj-Ame● Ant Synod ●e ●●●ver 〈…〉 apo p 2●2 presently they hit us in the teeth with infants baptisme B●llarmine saith the Lutherans cannot prove the baptisme of infants against the Anabaptists by the Scripture the Catholiks are not wont So the Remonstrants in their Assemblies as a very ancient rite which can scarcely be left off without great scandall and offence 6. It fills the conscience with scruples some question whether they were ever baptised some question how could I make a covenant by my selfe much lesse by others being an infant Some thinke there is no word at all for what is herein done but it s onely a laudable Apostolicall tradition some thinke it a Signe of faith in present others in infants But that which causeth most scruple is about the formalis ratio the formall cause that inrights a man to this infant Baptisme Some thinke the faith of the parents or of those that offer them doth inright them hereto Others think that the faith of their Grand-father great-grandfather to many generations if none be neerer that were godly of the race the faith of Noah shall serve Aug. Ser. 1 ● de ver apostol Others thinke the faith of the whole Church Others thinke that childrens Seminall faith makes them capable hereof the nature whereof who can understand seeing all faith requires an act of the understanding which infants have not Some thinke Abrahams faith doth it Some think there is an inward covenant which was made to Abraham whereby whatsoever God is to a godly man he is the same to all the seed Nay say others seeing many of the godlies seed are wicked this is impossible but th●re is a certain outward Covenant formerly in circumcision now in bap●isme whereby infants do partake talke with ten men and you shall see them divided into five parts about the formall cause that en●itles an infant to baptisme It s a speech of Erasmus things are bad where there is need of so many remedies Infants Baptise destroyes two of the principall marks of a particular church whereby the members of it are known from all other societies i● the world so that hereby they are made no markes at all as 1. Prof●ssion 2. Baptisme 1. Profession That which makes us members of the Catholike I mean Christs bodie for the catholike visible church I explod as a monster that hath neither Ordinances nor officers unlesse w●e take catholike into opposition to the church closed up in Iudea I say that which makes us members of the catholike the profession hereof makes us members of a particular Church faith doth the one the profession of faith doth the other Acts 8.37 38. Acts 19.18 and this profession is required in New England before any person is admitted as a member Now infants baptisme utterly destroyes this note being they are members already 2. Infants baptisme destroyes baptisme from being a marke of a Church He that would truely define and describe it by such properties as are so essentiall to the thing as that being there they make it to be that it is and being absent it ceaseth to be any more the same And further that it be common to no more but that thing Now infants baptisme is no distinguishable signe or mark of a member of a church because it is common to more persons then such as by Church right are members of Churches even to many that assoon as they grow up become persecutors of beleeving members of the same church of which the persecutors themseves are reputed members Most Divines make Baptisme a signe of a church but how it can be so in such a subject I see not 8. It makes the Preachers assertions of Baptisme and the peoples practicalls to jar one with another Melancton saith dipping signifies the old man with sin to be appointed to death and comming up out of the water Loc. com de bap signifies that wee being now washt do expect a new and eternall life Zanchy They that are dipt Zanch in Ephes loc de ba● are received into the faith and flock of Christ and Order of them that are to be renewed by the spirit forgivenesse of all sins being given unto them ●n Roma●●s c 6.5 Martyr saith Baptisme is a signe of regeneration into Christ into his death and resurrection which succeeded circumcision consisting of the washing of water in the word whereby in the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost remission of sins and powring out of the Spirit is offered and by a Sacrament we are planted in Christ and his visible Church and right to the Kingdome of heaven is sealed unto us and we likewise professe that we will hereafter die ●o sin and live to Christ 〈◊〉 l. cap. ●5 Polanus saith Baptisme is a Sacrament in which they to whom the Cov●nant of grace belongs according to the command of Christ are washed with water in the name of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost that is

that keeping the Law is still joyned to circumcision So that if you ask what circumcision was it was the profession of the observation of the Law but baptisme signifies forgivenesse of sinnes death buriall and resurrection with CHRIST which is a thing of another kinde 6 Circumcision differs from baptisme 1 in the matter cutting in the flesh being the matter hereof which left a sensible signe in the flesh which the infant when he was grown up could behold all the dayes of his life But dipping in the water is the matter of baptisme which leaves no sensible signe in infants and therefore in respect of them cannot be a Sacrament 2 In respect of form of words because in circumcision there are no words recited as in baptisme the Minister saith I baptise thee therefore persons baptised ought to be capable of reason that they may understand those words and forme their thoughts unto the death and resurrection of Christ 7 It followes not because of the difference in respect of the visible church in the time of the Law and the vsible churches under the times of the Gospell which differ 1 In mater the matter of the visible church of the Jewes was the whole nation of the Jewes good and bad the matter of the Christian church are those that professe faith and repentance 2 In the form of inrightment Circumcision in the flesh gave a person inrightment to the visible church of the Jews but now circumcision of the heart at least in profession is required to make a man a member of the visible church 3 In kinde of worship the Jewish worship and Priesthood and day of worship and maintainance of Officers that is tithes are put to an end therefore there is an end of the visible Church then and instead thereof in the visible churches now there are Ministers to preach and baptise there is also a new worship and a new day of worship and a new way of maintainance of Officers Now there being a change of the Ordinances and government of the visible church it is a folly to argue from circumcision to baptisme 8 The Sacraments of the new Testament cannot be proved but by the Scripture of the new Testament therefore that consequence which is drawn from the old Testament is absurd Obj. 2. They that are in covenant they must be sealed with the seal thereof but infants of believers are in covenant Answ We deny the proposition for the covenant in times past belonged to the females of the Jewes yet were they not to be sealed with the seale of the covenant for want of a command to say they were circumcised in the males is a mistake for 1 In nothing save marriage two shall be one flesh but this was a state of infancy not of marriage 2 whereas some alledge the Jews were called the Circumcision it is onely as other denominations are from the better or greater part as Exod. 9.6 all the cattell of Egypt dyed yet vers 25. there were cattell left 2 I answer to the assumtion viz. infants of godly parents are in Covenant therefore to be baptized Then this Covenant is either the Covenant of grace made with the Elect or some outward Covenant it is not the Covenant of grace made with the Elect for 1 Those that are in the Covenant of grace God made with the Elect cannot fall away from that Covenant but those that are children of godly men doe oft fall out of this Covenant and prone to be wicked therefore the Covenant of grace God makes with the Elect cannaot be meant 2. The Covenant of grace with the Elect hath sundry branches not competible unto all the seed of godly men nor none but the Elect among the which the Church cannot tell who they be as that their iniquities shall be forgiven then Jer. 31.33.34 Esa 59.21 that they shall be all taught of God c. Therefore it cannot be affirmed that infants of godly parent or parents much lesse of the infants of a whole Nation that they are in any such Covenant Or else this Covenant is outward and so the bond on Abram and his seedes part is circumcision Gen. 17.10 This is my Covenant which you shall keep betwixt me and you and thy seed after thee every man childe shall be circumcised so Acts 7.8 and he gave him the Covenant of Circumcision and so Abraham begat Isaac Answ 1. If circumcision be the covenant it self and so the Covenant be outward then is the land of Canaan onely the counterpart of this covenant as appears Acts 7. first 8. verses 2 Those that alledge this must disclaim circumcision from being the seal of the righteousnesse by faith as they alledge for the righteousnesse by faith is the covenant with the Elect. Also they must cease to flye betwixt two lurking holes sometimes to say circumcision is a seal of the covenant made with the Elect which is the same in all ages and when they dispute in another place they onely make it an outward covenant 3 Baptisme is no outward covenant and therefore cannot succeed circumcision in any such Identity but is a signe or seal of an inward covenant viz. death buriall and resurrection with Christ Paul for all he was borne in the jewish covenant and circumcised the eighth day yet did not Ananias nor himselfe thinke this enough but he was baptized Acts 22.16 4. There is but one Covenant under the new testament the lawes whereof are writ in the hearts of beleevers Heb. 8.6 It s called a better covenant and vers 8. a New covenant in the singular number not covenants and those that are in it have their sins forgiven Those that urge circumcision to be a seale of the Covenant of grace and sometimes urge it to be the covenant it selfe they run upon this absurdity that they make the covenant and the seal to be one and the same thing in number which is impossible Object But it s said Gen. 17.7 I will be thy God and the God of thy seed If there were any distinct covenant made with Abraham it is only the same in respect of spirituall reference which was made with Noah Gen. 6.18 Chap. 9.10.11 12. Answ There the new Covenant is promised but not covenanted which promise before was made to Adam Noah Abraham Gen. 12.3 Ier. 31.31 I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel not according to the covenant I made with their fathers and vers 33. This shall bee the covenant I will put my law in their inward parts Hee saith not I have made a covenant but I will make a new Covenant which was made good at the death of Christ as the Apostle makes it appeare Heb. 8.9.10 repeating this place of Ieremie so vers 11.12 13. 2. Abraham had but three seeds viz. 1. Christ Gal. 3.16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made he saith not and to seeds as of many but as one and to thy seeds which is Christ 2. The