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A33817 A Collection of discourses lately written by some divines of the Church of England against the errours and corruptions of the church of Rome to which is prefix'd a catalogue of the several discourses. 1687 (1687) Wing C5141; ESTC R10140 460,949 658

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bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n we_o have_v a_o token_n and_o symbol_n of_o our_o union_n with_o christ_n our_o friendship_n with_o god_n and_o communion_n with_o each_o other_o but_o now_o it_o be_v manifest_a there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o this_o in_o their_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n as_o even_o bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v for_o they_o do_v not_o say_v or_o mean_v that_o the_o absolution_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v a_o token_n or_o emblem_n of_o god_n forgiveness_n but_o that_o the_o priest_n actual_o pardon_v in_o god_n stead_n by_o virtue_n of_o a_o power_n delegated_a to_o he_o so_o that_o according_a to_o they_o here_o must_v be_v a_o sacrament_n not_o only_o without_o any_o material_a part_n institute_v but_o also_o without_o any_o thing_n figurative_a symbolical_a or_o significative_a which_o seem_v to_o be_v as_o express_o contrary_a to_o their_o own_o doctrine_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a definition_n as_o to_o the_o truth_n itself_o nay_o far_o to_o evince_v the_o difference_n of_o this_o rite_n of_o penance_n from_o all_o other_o proper_a sacrament_n it_o deserve_v observation_n that_o whereas_o in_o those_o other_o acknowledge_v sacrament_n the_o priest_n in_o god_n name_n deliver_v to_o we_o the_o pledge_n and_o symbol_n of_o divine_a grace_n here_o in_o this_o of_o penance_n we_o must_v bring_v all_o the_o material_a part_n and_o pledge_n ourselves_o and_o present_v they_o to_o god_n or_o to_o the_o priest_n in_o his_o stead_n my_o meaning_n be_v that_o whereas_o for_o instance_n in_o baptism_n the_o priest_n apply_v to_o we_o the_o symbol_n of_o water_n and_o in_o the_o eucharist_n deliver_v to_o we_o the_o consecrate_a element_n in_o token_n of_o the_o divine_a grace_n contrariwise_a here_o in_o penance_n we_o must_v on_o our_o part_n bring_v with_o we_o contrition_n confession_n and_o satisfaction_n too_o in_o which_o respect_n we_o may_v be_v rather_o say_v to_o give_v pledge_n to_o god_n than_o he_o to_o we_o which_o be_v wide_o different_a from_o the_o nature_n of_o other_o