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A31440 Independencie a great schism proved against Dr. Owen, his apology in his tract of schism : as also an appendix to the former discourse, shewing the inconstancy of the Dr. and the inconsistency of his former and present opinions / by D. Cawdrey ... Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing C1630; ESTC R8915 103,968 258

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be_v between_o all_o the_o member_n of_o such_o a_o church_n exert_v itself_o in_o their_o respective_a duty_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o also_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o union_n of_o the_o other_o two_o church_n love_n without_o dissimulation_n as_o be_v say_v above_o 98._o p._n 98._o and_o so_o yet_o we_o have_v no_o difference_n but_o we_o inquire_v what_o be_v the_o union_n itself_o or_o rather_o what_o be_v the_o form_n for_o that_o give_v union_n the_o specificate_a form_n that_o distinguish_v this_o church_n from_o the_o rest_n the_o other_o two_o aforego_v this_o it_o be_v 215._o p._n 215._o the_o joint_a consent_n of_o all_o the_o member_n of_o it_o from_o a_o principle_n of_o love_n to_o walk_v together_o in_o the_o universal_a celebration_n of_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o to_o perform_v all_o office_n of_o love_n to_o one_o another_o &c_n &c_n but_o most_o of_o this_o be_v applicable_a to_o the_o other_o two_o church_n or_o 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