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B00239 Heir followeth the coppie of the ressoning which was betuix the abbote of Crosraguell and John Knox, in Mayboill concern ing [sic] the masse, in the yeare of God, a thousand fiue hundreth thre scoir and two yeares. Knox, John,; Kennedy, Quintin, 1520-1564. 1563 (1563) STC 15074; ESTC S93406 46,767 88

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fals prophetes against Micheas and Ieremie and therefore yet againe I say my Lords conscience if a blind zeal be worthy of the name of conscience will neither saue him self nor others because it is not grounded vpon God his reueilled wil nor promes If my Lorde thinketh that the holy catholick Church is sufficient assurance for his conscience let him vnderstand that the same buckler had the fals prophetes against Ieremie for they cryed Iere. 7. the temple of the Lorde the temple of the Lorde the temple of the Lord but as he with one stroke did brust their buckler a sonder saying put not your trust in leing wordes so say we that how catholick that is vniuersal that euer their Churche hath bene holy are they neuer able to proue it neither in lyfe making of lawes nor in soundnes of doctrine as in my answer giuen by mouth I haue more planely shewen It pleaseth my Lorde to terme vs wicked and deceatful preachers who go about not knowing wherefro we come nor by what ordoure further he feareth not to pronūce our doctrine fals wicked and vngodlie for of vs our doctrine it is plane that my Lorde ment and meneth I answer that as by Gods worde we accuse the whole masse of mannes nature of corruptiō and wickednes so do we not flatter our selues but willingly confesse ourselues so subiect to corruption and naturall wickednes that the good that we wold do we do it not but the euill that we hate that we do Yea we do not deny but that in our liues and outward cōuersation there be many things bothe worthie of reformation and reprehension But yet if our liues shal be cōpared with the liues of them that accuseth vs be it in general or be it in particular we doubt not to be iustified bothe before God and man For how many ministers this day within scotland is my Lorde abbote ioyning with him the whole rable of the horned Bischoopes able to cōuict to be adulterers fornicators dronckards bloodscheders opperssors of the poore wedow fatherles or stranger or yet that do idilly liue vpon the sweat of other mēnes browes And how many of them from the hiest to the lowest are able to abyde an assyse of the forenāed crimes And yet shal we be called by thē wicked and deceatful preachers euen as if the strongest moste cōmune harlot that euer wes knowē ī the bordell should sclander reuile an honest pudick matrō But in somwhat must the sonnes resemble there father The deuil as that he is perpetuall enimie to treuth and to ane honest life so is he a lear and accusar of our brethrē and therefore albeit suche as serue him in idolatrie and all filthines of life spew out against vs there wennome and leis with testimonie of a good conscience we refer vengance to him to whome it aperteineth neither yet wold we haue ones opened our mouthes for the defence of our owne innocencie for God be praised euen before the world it will vtter the self war not that in sclandring our liues they go about to deface the glorious gospel of Iesus Christe whereof it hath pleased his mercie to make vs ministers and in that eace let them be assured that the lies which without shame assurance they causies womet out against vs with shame and double confucion they shal iustlie receaue againe in there owne bosomes If my Lorde abbote alledge that he accuseth not our liues and external conuersation but our doctrine which he termes fals wicked and vngodlie we answer that as that doeth more greiue vs nor the sclandring of our liues so doubt we nothing but that he that made his fauorable ꝓmes to afflicted Ierusalem in these wordes Isay 14. All instrument that is prepared against thee shal not prosper and euerie toung that shal rise against thee in iudgement thou shalt rightlie conuict and condeme of impietie We doubt not I say but the same God will in this our age confound the tounges that oppone them selues to his eternal veritie which is the groūd and assurance of our doctrine And therefore we nothing feare to say that my Lorde in the end shal spead no better if he continew in that his irreuerent rayling then suche as heretofore haue blasphemed Iesus Christe and his eternall veritie to the which albeit for the present they wil not be subiect and that because our persones and presence whome God maketh ministers of the same are contemptible and despysed yet in the end they shal feal that in rebelling against our admonicions they were rebellious to the mouth of God and in defasing vs they haue dispysed the eternal Sonne of God who of his mercie hath sent vs to rebuke there impeitie and to reduce to knowledge and vnto the true pastor againe suche as through blind ignorance haue followed the inuentions and dreames of men and haue soght iustice remission of sinnes and reconciliation with God by other meanes then by Iesus Christe and by true faith in his blood But of this point I knowe my Lorde moste doubtes To wit whether God hath sent vs or not For my Lorde sayes we go about not knowing wherefro we come nor by what ordor we answer that in our consciences we knowe and he him self wil beare vs record that we are not sent by that Romane Antichriste whome he calleth Pope nor yet from his carnal Cardinalles nor dum horned Bischoppes and thereof we reioyse Being assured that as we are not sent by Christes manifest enimie in the earth so are we sent by Iesus Christe him self and that by suche ordor as God hath euer kept from the beginning when publick corruption entered in the Church by sleuth and impietie of suche as of duetie oght to haue fedd the flock and to haue reteaned the people vnder obedience of God aswel in religion as in life and maners The ordor of God I say hath bene in suche publick corruptions to raise vp simple and obscure men in the beginning of there vocacion vnknowen to the worlde to rebuke the manifest defection of the people from God to conuict the pastors of there formar negligence fleuth and idolatrie to prononce them vnworthie of there offices Reg. 17 Iere. 35. Amo. ● For so was Helias sent in the dayes of Ahab Ieremie in the time of corruption vnder Iehoiakin and Zedechias Amos vnder Ieroboam and the rest of the Prophets euerie one in there own tyme and after the same ordour hath God rased vp ī these our dayes suche mē as my Lord his faction termes Heretikes Schismatikes Zuinglians Lutherians Oecolampadians Caluinists To proue the Pope to be an Antichriste his whole glorie in the earth to be altogether repugnant to the cōdicion of Christes true ministers The masse to be idolatrie a bastard seruice of God yea more corrupted thē euer was the Sacrifice in the dayes of the Prophetes whē yet they affirmed them to be abominable before God Purgatorie to