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A12800 Cassander Anglicanus shewing the necessity of conformitie to the prescribed ceremonies of our church, in case of depriuation. By Iohn Sprint, minister of Thornbury in Glocester-shire, sometimes of Christ-Church in Oxon. Sprint, John, d. 1623. 1618 (1618) STC 23108; ESTC S117795 199,939 306

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for_o he_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o be_v blameless_a and_o innocent_a mat._n 12._o 4_o 5._o 7._o also_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o jewish_a inconvenient_a and_o many_o way_n evil_a ceremony_n which_o practice_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v evil_a in_o that_o case_n that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o necessary_a act._n 15._o 28._o 29._o touch_v this_o objection_n see_v more_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o argument_n object_n mordecay_n refuse_v to_o bow_v and_o perform_v the_o gesture_n of_o reverence_n to_o haman_n yea_o though_o he_o be_v command_v by_o the_o king_n hest_n 3._o 1_o 2_o 3._o by_o which_o refusal_n of_o obedience_n to_o a_o ceremonial_a he_o violate_a two_o great_a duty_n one_o be_v the_o king_n command_n and_o the_o other_o be_v the_o hazard_n of_o his_o life_n and_o destruction_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o thereby_o for_o performance_n of_o a_o lesser_a duty_n he_o do_v violate_v a_o great_a answ_n either_o this_o gesture_n be_v spiritual_a or_o civil_a if_o the_o former_a he_o ought_v to_o avoid_v spiritual_a adoration_n to_o a_o creature_n a_o heathen_a a_o wicked_a person_n a_o amalekite_n and_o a_o enemy_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o sufficient_a and_o the_o true_a answer_n and_o thus_o do_v all_o interpreter_n understand_v this_o place_n thus_o the_o hebrew_n gloss_n thus_o the_o apocryphal_a prayer_n in_o the_o addition_n to_o hester_n lyra_n vataplus_n junius_n drusius_n merlyne_n upon_o these_o place_n if_o the_o latter_a either_o his_o action_n be_v evil_a or_o good_a if_o evil_a in_o disobey_v the_o magistrate_n in_o a_o thing_n indifferent_a it_o be_v impertinent_o allege_v if_o well_o the_o reason_n be_v unknown_a and_o not_o express_v we_o can_v judge_v of_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o duty_n compare_v if_o he_o do_v refuse_v this_o reverence_n 1_o because_o he_o be_v of_o the_o amalekite_n which_o be_v especial_o cast_v out_o by_o god_n exod._n 11._o 14._o deut._n 25._o 7._o num._n 24._o 7._o 2_o because_o a_o open_a 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then_o to_o eat_v swine_n flesh_n 2._o mac._n 7._o 1._o and_o 6._o 8._o prefer_v observance_n of_o a_o ceremonial_a duty_n before_o their_o life_n answ_n to_o these_o instance_n i_o first_o demand_n whether_o these_o be_v bring_v therefore_o to_o conclude_v that_o therefore_o minister_n shall_v rather_o die_v then_o to_o use_v the_o ceremony_n prescribe_v in_o our_o church_n and_o let_v it_o be_v consider_v serious_o by_o every_o person_n true_o fear_v god_n whether_o they_o think_v it_o fit_a for_o another_o or_o can_v resolve_v himself_o to_o loose_v this_o life_n by_o be_v at_o a_o stake_n for_o none_o other_o cause_n then_o for_o refuse_v the_o prescribe_a ceremony_n especial_o in_o a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n wherein_o there_o be_v otherwise_o a_o true_a confession_n of_o faith_n and_o sufficient_a mean_n of_o their_o salvation_n if_o it_o shall_v fall_v out_o that_o they_o will_v not_o die_v in_o such_o a_o case_n i_o will_v know_v further_o how_o then_o they_o can_v loose_v their_o ministry_n for_o not_o use_v they_o see_v it_o be_v better_o for_o a_o minister_n to_o loose_v his_o life_n then_o to_o loose_v the_o comfort_n of_o his_o ministry_n act._n 20._o 24._o 1._o cor._n 9_o 15._o if_o they_o will_v rather_o suffer_v death_n then_o use_v the_o ceremony_n let_v they_o show_v the_o ground_n and_o comfort_n they_o shall_v have_v before_o the_o lord_n in_o this_o proceed_n if_o they_o allege_v these_o instance_n i_o will_v show_v to_o how_o small_a purpose_n they_o serve_v therein_o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o their_o case_n do_v far_o differ_v from_o the_o case_n in_o question_n first_o they_o be_v controversy_n depend_v between_o the_o heathen_a and_o profess_a enemy_n of_o god_n church_n and_o between_o the_o people_n of_o god_n covenant_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n our_o controversy_n be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o between_o profess_a lover_n and_o believer_n in_o christ_n second_o they_o be_v case_n of_o confession_n wherein_o they_o be_v call_v to_o confess_v the_o truth_n and_o religion_n of_o god_n among_o god_n enemy_n as_o also_o the_o necessity_n of_o invocation_n of_o god_n name_n and_o of_o obedience_n to_o god_n precept_n with_o we_o the_o doctrine_n of_o ceremony_n be_v true_a and_o according_a to_o god_n word_n and_o the_o part_n of_o our_o general_a confession_n in_o the_o book_n of_o article_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n three_o the_o duty_n be_v of_o exceed_v great_a moment_n for_o the_o performance_n whereof_o they_o shall_v have_v hazard_v and_o lose_v many_o life_n daniel_n stand_v in_o obedience_n of_o a_o main_a substantial_a duty_n not_o ceremonial_a or_o circumstantial_a of_o the_o first_o commandment_n namely_o prayer_n to_o god_n and_o praise_v of_o his_o name_n
judge_v they_o of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n and_o of_o kneel_v at_o communion_n &_o the_o rest_n which_o afterward_o shall_v be_v allege_v the_o reason_n prove_v this_o point_n be_v these_o because_o they_o be_v neither_o express_o command_v nor_o forbid_v of_o god_n bucanus_n ubi_fw-la superius_fw-la this_o rule_n also_o of_o a_o thing_n indifferent_a have_v polanus_fw-la syntag._n lib._n 6._o cap._n 38._o fol._n 3036._o paraeus_n colleg._n 2._o cap._n 31._o sect_n 15._o fol._n 274._o illyricus_n cleave_v scripture_n fol._n 22._o part_n 1._o adiap_n and_o be_v distinguish_v from_o thing_n simple_o good_a which_o be_v express_o command_v from_o thing_n simple_o evil_a which_o be_v express_o forbid_v of_o god_n be_v in_o their_o nature_n neither_o morral_o good_a or_o evil_n neither_o command_v nor_o forbid_v of_o god_n and_o by_o accident_n may_v be_v both_o good_a and_o evil_a exerc._n part_n inter_fw-la thes_n fol._n 826._o objection_n beza_n contra_fw-la saraviam_fw-la cap._n 25._o fol._n 200._o say_v indifferent_a thing_n i_o call_v which_o be_v neither_o express_o nor_o secret_o command_v nor_o forbid_v by_o the_o word_n neither_o make_v we_o the_o better_a be_v use_v nor_o the_o worse_a if_o we_o use_v they_o not_o but_o our_o ceremony_n be_v forbid_v in_o the_o word_n in_o general_a and_o in_o particular_a in_o our_o use_n ergo._n answer_n so_o may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o jewish_a ceremony_n rather_o then_o of_o we_o both_o they_o and_o these_o be_v in_o nature_n indifferent_a not_o impious_a and_o in_o the_o case_n of_o deprivation_n or_o necessity_n be_v not_o forbid_v any_o way_n but_o command_v rather_o because_o we_o must_v use_v indifferent_a thing_n for_o the_o furtherance_n of_o the_o church_n edification_n and_o not_o refuse_v they_o though_o they_o seem_v to_o we_o inconvenient_a to_o the_o church_n destruction_n and_o as_o for_o beza_n with_o all_o other_o sound_a writer_n that_o be_v of_o other_o mind_n concern_v our_o ceremony_n they_o hold_v they_o in_o their_o nature_n indifferent_a and_o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o word_n especial_o in_o our_o use_n and_o in_o the_o case_n of_o simple_a necessity_n 2_o because_o in_o some_o case_n a_o man_n may_v use_v they_o and_o not_o sin_n which_o a_o thing_n in_o nature_n evil_a he_o can_v never_o use_v but_o he_o shall_v incuitable_o sin_v of_o this_o nature_n be_v idolatry_n adultery_n blasphemy_n perjury_n which_o sin_v no_o circumstance_n can_v ever_o amend_v beza_n count_n saravi_fw-la cap._n 25._o fol._n 199._o indifferentia_fw-la sunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la usus_fw-la modo_fw-la bone_fw-la modo_fw-la illicitus_fw-la prout_fw-la viz_o bene_fw-la vel_fw-la male_a illis_fw-la utitur_fw-la quae_fw-la naturam_fw-la habeant_fw-la neque_fw-la ad_fw-la bonum_fw-la neque_fw-la ad_fw-la malum_fw-la determinatam_fw-la 3_o because_o in_o some_o respect_n and_o in_o some_o use_n they_o may_v be_v good_a a_o thing_n in_o nature_n evil_a can_v never_o be_v put_v to_o any_o profitable_a use_n peter_n martyr_n say_v adiaphoris_n bene_fw-la vel_fw-la male_a uti_fw-la possumus_fw-la l._n clas_n 4._o cap._n 4._o fol._n 707._o 4_o because_o in_o some_o respect_n and_o in_o the_o same_o use_n they_o may_v be_v good_a and_o necessary_a as_o the_o jewish_a rite_n be_v in_o the_o apostle_n practice_v 5_o because_o they_o be_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o the_o jewish_a rite_n practise_v by_o the_o apostle_n of_o this_o opinion_n be_v peter_n martyr_n loc_n cum_fw-la inter_fw-la epist_n fol._n 1087._o zanchius_n in_o philip._n 1._o fol._n 45._o polanus_fw-la in_o ezech._n 44._o fol._n 807._o which_o ceremony_n by_o the_o stream_n of_o all_o sound_a writer_n be_v hold_v as_o indifferent_a in_o nature_n in_o the_o case_n wherein_o they_o use_v they_o 6_o because_o a_o man_n use_v they_o all_o the_o day_n of_o his_o life_n as_o they_o be_v prescribe_v in_o our_o church_n and_o that_o without_o repentance_n for_o such_o use_n of_o they_o may_v still_o remain_v a_o godly_a and_o good_a man_n and_o presuppose_v he_o otherwise_o to_o walk_v in_o holiness_n may_v in_o that_o estate_n be_v save_v whereas_o one_o sin_n in_o nature_n as_o to_o live_v in_o fornication_n 1._o cor._n 6._o 9_o 10._o be_v continue_v in_o especial_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v plead_v for_o and_o defend_v mat._n 5._o 9_o can_v stand_v with_o his_o salvation_n so_o bucer_n script_n anglican_n 1458._o martyr_n inter_fw-la episto_n fol._n 1085._o amico_fw-la cuidam_fw-la aretius_n say_v that_o indifferent_a thing_n be_v such_o as_o be_v in_o equal_a respect_n to_o good_a and_o to_o bad_a prob._n cap._n 83._o de_fw-fr adiaph_n fol._n 266._o 7_o because_o if_o they_o be_v in_o nature_n evil_a a_o godly_a person_n can_v not_o communicate_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n with_o our_o church_n which_o do_v prescribe_v and_o practice_v they_o and_o remove_v they_o not_o be_v admonish_v neither_o in_o the_o ministry_n or_o any_o worship_n of_o god_n bucer_n epist._n io._n alasco_n martyr_n fol_z 1086._o hoopero_n 8_o because_o all_o such_o as_o have_v continue_v in_o the_o use_n of_o they_o and_o defend_v the_o same_o may_v be_v judge_v impiouse_a and_o wicked_a such_o as_o be_v the_o martyr_n and_o other_o worthy_a person_n of_o our_o church_n and_o other_o church_n also_o yea_o the_o apostle_n and_o all_o faithful_a teacher_n and_o church_n since_o their_o time_n shall_v be_v condemn_v yea_o it_o may_v be_v teach_v as_o a_o doctrine_n that_o such_o as_o use_v they_o with_o continuance_n or_o maintain_v they_o can_v not_o be_v save_v which_o i_o suppose_v none_o of_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v deprive_v will_v justify_v martyr_n fol._n 1086._o hoopero_n simple_o evil_a may_v be_v take_v for_o any_o thing_n particular_o forbid_v of_o god_n or_o the_o omission_n of_o a_o thing_n particular_o command_v of_o god_n sundry_a thing_n of_o which_o kind_n though_o in_o themselves_o consider_v be_v evil_a may_v be_v do_v lawful_o for_o a_o superior_a good_a and_o in_o that_o case_n 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