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A69145 The progenie of Catholicks and Protestants Whereby on the one side is proued the lineal descent of Catholicks, for the Roman faith and religion, from the holie fathers of the primitiue Church ... and on the other, the neuer-being of Protestants or their nouel sect during al the foresayd time, otherwise then in confessed and condemned hereticks. ... Anderton, Lawrence. 1633 (1633) STC 579; ESTC S100158 364,704 286

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just_o condemn_v etc._n etc._n osiander_n 434._o osiander_n cent._n 4._o p._n 434._o recite_v the_o condemn_a error_n of_o aerius_n among_o the_o rest_n number_v appoint_a fast_n not_o to_o be_v keep_v &c_n &c_n and_o that_o fast_v be_v to_o be_v when_o a_o man_n will_v according_a to_o his_o liberty_n and_o whereas_o s._n epiphanius_n her_o 75._o affirm_v of_o aerius_n that_o he_o say_v neither_o shall_v fast_a be_v appoint_v for_o these_o thing_n be_v judaical_a and_o under_o the_o law_n of_o bondage_n if_o at_o all_o i_o will_v fast_o i_o will_v choose_v any_o of_o myself_o and_o i_o will_v fast_o for_o liberty_n all_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o pantaleon_n 28._o pantaleon_n in_o his_o chronogr_n p._n 28._o and_o be_v so_o agreeable_a with_o the_o now_o doctrine_n of_o protestant_n that_o d._n whitaker_n 830._o whitaker_n contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 9_o p._n 830._o avouch_v that_o aerius_n teach_v nothing_o concern_v fast_v different_a from_o the_o catholic_n faith_n by_o which_o he_o mean_v the_o protestant_n faith_n insomuch_o that_o aerius_n herein_o be_v defend_v by_o danaeus_n 177._o danaeus_n de_fw-fr haresibus_fw-la c._n 53._o f._n 175._o 177._o &_o d._n fulk_n 45._o fulk_n answ_n to_o a_o countor_n cath._n p._n 45._o though_o m_n hooker_n 103._o hooker_n eccles_n pol._n l._n 5._o p._n 210._o and_o the_o author_n of_o quaerim_n eccles_n p._n 31._o 94_o 103._o and_o other_o protestant_a writer_n do_v no_o less_o condemn_v he_o herein_o of_o error_n then_o catholic_n do_v in_o like_a sort_n whereas_o d._n fulk_n ●72_n fulk_n against_o rhem._n test_n in_o math._n c._n 15_o fol._n 28._o and_o aretius_n loc_fw-la come_v p._n ●72_n and_o other_o protestant_a writer_n do_v common_o object_v against_o catholic_n that_o montanus_n the_o heretic_n be_v the_o first_o that_o appoint_v law_n of_o fast_v m._n hooker_n 210._o hooker_n eccles_n pol_n l._n 5._o p._n 209._o 210._o himself_o answer_v with_o we_o that_o the_o montanist_n be_v reprehend_v only_o for_o that_o they_o bring_v in_o sundry_a unaccustomed_a day_n of_o fast_v continue_v their_o fast_n a_o great_a deal_n long_o &_o make_v they_o more_o rigorous_a etc._n etc._n whereupon_o tertulian_n maintain_n montanisme_n write_v a_o book_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o new_a fast_o and_o the_o like_a answer_n be_v give_v by_o another_o protestant_a 110._o protestant_a quaerimonia_fw-la eccl_n p._n 110._o saying_n protestant_n say_v that_o eusebius_n manifest_o teach_v that_o montanus_n make_v the_o first_o law_n of_o fast_v but_o they_o be_v great_o deceive_v in_o this_o as_o in_o other_o thing_n etc._n etc._n montanus_n bring_v in_o a_o new_a custom_n of_o fast_v have_v abrogate_a the_o fast_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o this_o new_a custom_n in_o particular_a chemnitius_n 143._o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 4._o p._n 143._o record_v that_o the_o montanist_n make_v three_o lent_n in_o the_o year_n as_o though_o three_o saviour_n suffer_v in_o the_o year_n which_o be_v altogether_o impertinent_a to_o catholic_n again_o whereas_o it_o be_v ordinary_o urge_v against_o catholic_n that_o they_o absolute_o condemn_v certain_a meat_n contrary_a to_o s._n paul_n 1_o tim._n 4.3_o m._n jacob_n 59_o jacob_n def._n of_o the_o church_n &_o ministry_n of_o england_n p._n 59_o a_o puritan_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o place_n of_o paul_n be_v understand_v of_o martion_n &_o tatianus_n who_o do_v absolute_o condemn_v marriage_n &_o certain_a meat_n and_o so_o say_v he_o be_v in_o no_o comparison_n with_o the_o papist_n if_o they_o err_v in_o nothing_o else_o but_o to_o proceed_v yet_o to_o father_n more_o ancient_a the_o centurist_n 136._o centurist_n cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 136._o write_v that_o origen_n hom_n 10._o in_o leviticum_fw-la mention_v the_o 40._o day_n or_o lent_n consecrate_v to_o fast_v as_o also_o wenesday_n &_o friday_n in_o which_o say_v he_o be_v solemn_a fast_n d._n whitaker_n 506_o whitaker_n cont._n duraeum_n l._n 7._o p._n 480._o mort._n prot._n app._n p._n 506_o &_o d_o morton_n charge_v pope_n calixtus_n who_o live_v about_o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 218._o that_o he_o be_v the_o first_o that_o ordain_v jeiunium_fw-la quatuor_fw-la temporum_fw-la or_o ember_n day_n and_o hamelmannus_fw-la 254._o hamelmannus_fw-la de_fw-fr trad._n apost_n col_fw-fr 254._o speak_v of_o hermes_n of_o who_o s._n paul_n make_v mention_n rom._n 16_o 14_o affirm_v that_o in_o his_o book_n entitle_v pastor_n be_v record_v the_o then_o fast_v from_o certain_a meat_n abraham_n schultetus_fw-la 440._o schultetus_fw-la in_o medulla_n theol._n patrum_fw-la p._n 440._o do_v not_o only_o affirm_v to_o use_v his_o word_n the_o superstition_n of_o lent_n &_o fast_v to_o have_v be_v allow_v &_o command_v by_o ignatius_n 209._o ignatius_n vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la and_o whitguift_n in_o his_o def._n p._n 102._o hooker_n eccl._n pol._n l._n 5._o p._n 209._o but_o do_v also_o as_o do_v likewise_o d._n whitguift_n &_o m._n hooker_n defend_v that_o very_a epistle_n of_o ignatius_n be_v ad_fw-la philippense_n in_o which_o this_o doctrine_n be_v extant_a to_o be_v his_o true_a epistle_n &_o not_o counterfeit_v chemnitius_n 89._o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 1._o p._n 89._o confess_v that_o ambrose_n maximus_n tauroninsis_n theophilus_n hierom_n &_o other_o do_v affirm_v the_o fast_a of_o lent_n to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o the_o like_a almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n be_v acknowledge_v by_o schrederus_n 71._o schrederus_n opuscul_fw-la theol_n p._n 71._o say_v ambrose_n theophilus_n hierom_n &_o other_o do_v decree_n that_o lent_n have_v descend_v from_o apostolical_a tradition_n add_v last_o that_o caluin_n 19_o caluin_n insti_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12._o sec_fw-la 19_o speak_v of_o fast_v confess_v in_o general_a that_o he_o dare_v not_o whole_o excuse_v the_o old_a father_n but_o that_o they_o sow_v some_o seed_n of_o superstition_n and_o that_o 20._o that_o ibid._n sec_fw-la 20._o every_o where_o the_o observation_n of_o superstitious_a lent_n be_v in_o force_n hamelmannus_fw-la affirm_v that_o 460._o that_o de_fw-fr traedit_fw-la col_fw-fr 460._o after_o the_o death_n of_o john_n the_o apostle_n there_o begin_v fall_n away_o from_o the_o faith_n doctrine_n of_o devil_n under_o pretence_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n forbid_v of_o marriage_n &_o meat_n vow_n single_a life_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o centurist_n do_v confess_v &_o report_v from_o 581._o from_o cent._n 1._o l._n 2._o c._n 10._o col_fw-fr 581._o the_o testimony_n of_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n egesippus_fw-la &_o josephus_n concern_v the_o abstinence_n of_o the_o bless_a apostle_n s._n james_n that_o 582._o that_o ibid._n col_fw-fr 582._o wine_n &_o sicer_n he_o do_v not_o drink_v that_o he_o do_v not_o feed_v of_o any_o live_a creature_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o wear_v not_o woollen_a garment_n but_o be_v attire_v in_o syndon_n that_o he_o pray_v so_o continual_o upon_o his_o knee_n that_o camel-like_a they_o have_v lose_v their_o feel_n so_o strict_a be_v the_o fast_n and_o other_o austerity_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o apostle_n but_o to_o touch_v brief_o our_o puritan_n or_o sabaoth_a fast_n whereas_o m._n welch_n 196._o welch_n in_o his_o rep._n against_o browne_n p._n 196._o speak_v of_o himself_o and_o his_o brethren_n say_v we_o think_v it_o not_o heresy_n to_o fast_o on_o the_o lord_n more_o than_o other_o day_n the_o four_o carthage_n council_n can._n 64._o be_v reprehend_v by_o osiander_n 13._o osiander_n cent._n 5._o p._n 13._o for_o decree_a that_n he_o that_o advise_o or_o of_o purpose_n fast_v upon_o the_o sunday_n shall_v not_o be_v esteem_v a_o catholic_n and_o whereas_o epiphanius_n haer_fw-mi 75._o recite_v and_o condemn_v the_o error_n of_o the_o aerian_o herein_o affirm_v that_o they_o affect_v rather_o to_o fast_o upon_o the_o sunday_n and_o to_o eat_v upon_o the_o wenesday_n &_o friday_n in_o which_o respect_n our_o modern_a protestant_n be_v their_o docible_a scholar_n m._n midleton_n allege_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n not_o only_o the_o several_a testimony_n of_o epiphanius_n but_o also_o of_o tertulian_n &_o ignatius_n free_o confess_v that_o sunday_n fast_n be_v condemn_v in_o eustathius_n &_o the_o aerian_o in_o like_a sort_n s._n austin_n ep_v 86._o ad_fw-la casulanum_fw-la affirm_v that_o to_o fast_o on_o sunday_n be_v a_o great_a offence_n 35._o offence_n in_o h_o s_o papistomastix_n p._n 35._o especial_o since_o the_o detestable_a heresy_n of_o the_o manichee_n etc._n etc._n who_o appoint_v unto_o their_o hearer_n this_o day_n as_o lawful_a to_o be_v fast_v upon_o this_o say_n be_v allege_v by_o d._n whiteguift_n 102._o whiteguift_n in_o his_o def._n p._n 102._o &_o the_o centurie-writer_n 445._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 445._o as_o also_o be_v s._n ambrose_n for_o the_o same_o purpose_n by_o m._n parker_n 38._o parker_n against_o symbol_n part_n 2._o c._n 5._o sec_fw-la 16_o p._n 38._o and_o where_o clement_n l._n 5._o constit_fw-la apost_n c._n ult._n &_o ignatius_n
father_n be_v no_o protestant_n but_o mere_o papist_n wherein_o we_o may_v glory_v as_o reverence_v their_o sanctity_n admire_v their_o learning_n and_o honour_v their_o antiquity_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a as_o protestant_n use_v to_o suggest_v that_o catholic_n distrust_v their_o cause_n if_o it_o be_v commit_v to_o trial_n by_o scripture_n do_v therefore_o fly_v from_o it_o to_o father_n and_o doctor_n for_o as_o for_o all_o such_o point_n as_o be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n to_o scripture_n we_o appeal_v it_o be_v that_o we_o urge_v her_o literal_a sense_n and_o word_n have_v make_v we_o papist_n we_o therefore_o only_o recurre_v to_o father_n either_o for_o the_o better_a finding-out_a and_o understand_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o sundry_a difficult_a passage_n and_o text_n of_o scripture_n or_o for_o the_o true_a discern_v of_o several_a ecclesiastical_a tradition_n and_o doctrine_n teach_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o no_o where_n mention_v in_o the_o written_a word_n and_o as_o this_o be_v not_o most_o impious_o to_o oppose_v father_n to_o scripture_n or_o to_o fly_v from_o scripture_n to_o father_n so_o be_v it_o in_o these_o respect_v the_o most_o assure_a mean_n to_o give_v we_o satisfaction_n for_o as_o none_o ever_o leave_v more_o livelie_a monument_n of_o rare_a wit_n &_o profund_a knowledge_n or_o more_o shine_a testimony_n of_o great_a purity_n and_o sanctity_n in_o life_n or_o more_o astonish_a wonder_n and_o miracle_n in_o confirmation_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n than_o these_o ancient_a father_n so_o be_v there_o none_o ever_o furnish_v with_o so_o good_a mean_v either_o of_o know_v the_o apostle_n or_o the_o apostle_n preach_v as_o the_o apostle_n first_o heir_n and_o next_o successor_n the_o sweet_a fruit_n of_o their_o labour_n our_o holy_a father_n but_o to_o prosecute_v yet_o further_o this_o so_o lunatic_a proceed_n of_o protestant_n against_o these_o grave_a sage_n of_o christ_n catholic_n church_n 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princip_n condens_fw-la p._n 4._o but_o this_o also_o i_o affirm_v etc._n etc._n that_o scarce_o any_o of_o they_o can_v be_v name_v who_o dissent_v not_o both_o from_o himself_o and_o other_o in_o many_o thing_n and_o those_o of_o great_a moment_n a_o thing_n incredible_a in_o such_o learned_a bishop_n if_o caluin_n and_o beza_n be_v not_o the_o broacher_n who_o seldom_o tell_v truth_n 419._o truth_n ep._n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 14._o p._n 419._o melancthon_n also_o thus_o write_v of_o the_o father_n see_v they_o sometime_o speak_v contrary_a thing_n they_o must_v pardon_v we_o if_o we_o reprehend_v certain_a thing_n in_o they_o and_o 463._o and_o devotis_fw-la p._n 463._o though_o the_o father_n be_v wise_a and_o learned_a and_o see_v many_o thing_n say_v peter_n martyr_n yet_o they_o be_v man_n and_o can_v err_v and_o that_o chief_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o the_o father_n do_v not_o always_o agree_v among_o themselves_o and_o sometime_o one_o dissent_v from_o himself_o those_o father_n say_v 224._o say_v retractive_a from_o romish_a religion_n p._n 223._o 224._o d._n beard_n that_o live_v in_o the_o next_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o first_o speak_v of_o this_o matter_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n very_o various_o and_o doubtful_o as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o doctrine_n which_o they_o know_v not_o what_o to_o say_v to_o and_o be_v not_o full_o resolve_v in_o three_o of_o those_o father_n which_o he_o allege_v though_o in_o some_o place_n they_o seem_v to_o allow_v that_o custom_n which_o be_v then_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n yet_o in_o other_o place_n they_o disallow_v the_o same_o yea_o and_o they_o be_v disapprove_v also_o of_o other_o that_o live_v in_o the_o same_o age._n thus_o true_a athanasius_n condemn_v invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n &_o false_a athanasius_n allow_v it_o etc._n etc._n basil_n approve_v it_o but_o nazianzene_n doubt_v of_o it_o and_o epiphanius_n etc._n etc._n utter_o condemn_v it_o chrysostome_n in_o some_o 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oblivion_n or_o worse_a inconstancy_n now_o from_o this_o conceit_n of_o the_o father_n ignorance_n and_o contradiction_n to_o themselves_o protestant_n doubt_v not_o to_o prefer_v their_o own_o modern_a writer_n for_o judgement_n knowledge_n and_o learning_n before_o the_o great_a &_o ancient_a doctor_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n so_o luther_n in_o his_o protestant_a humility_n thus_o speak_v of_o himself_o consolation_n himself_o lib._n ad_fw-la ducem_fw-la georgium_n and_o see_v colloq_fw-la lat_fw-la c._n the_o consolation_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n no_o doctor_n or_o writer_n have_v so_o excellent_o and_o clear_o confirm_v instruct_v and_o comfort_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o secular_a state_n as_o i_o have_v do_v by_o the_o singular_a grace_n of_o god_n this_o certain_o i_o know_v that_o neither_o austin_n not_o ambrose_n who_o be_v yet_o in_o this_o matter_n the_o best_a be_v equal_a to_o i_o herein_o 271._o herein_o tom._n 7._o serm._n de_fw-fr euersione_n jerusalem_n f._n 271._o the_o gospel_n
council_n and_o again_o 19_o again_o ib._n p._n 19_o neither_o be_v that_o speech_n altogether_o to_o be_v dislike_v that_o a_o council_n be_v the_o church_n representative_a m._n ridley_n further_a avouch_v that_o 1288._o that_o act._n mon._n p._n 1288._o counsel_n do_v indeed_o represent_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o be_v so_o gather_v together_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n they_o have_v a_o promise_n of_o the_o gift_n and_o guide_v of_o his_o spirit_n into_o all_o truth_n and_o the_o same_o doctrine_n be_v prove_v by_o d._n bilson_n say_v 392._o say_v perpetual_a government_n p._n 392._o as_o in_o civil_a policy_n not_o all_o person_n be_v call_v together_o but_o certain_a chief_n to_o represent_v the_o state_n and_o consult_v for_o the_o whole_a commonwealth_n so_o in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v as_o sufficient_a in_o right_n that_o some_o of_o every_o place_n excel_v other_o in_o dignity_n shall_v be_v send_v from_o every_o realm_n far_o distant_a and_o by_o that_o mean_n they_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n to_o the_o decree_n of_o their_o counsel_n the_o council_n thus_o lively_o represent_v the_o church_n it_o be_v hereupon_o further_o grant_v by_o d._n bilson_n that_o as_o 372._o as_o ib._n p_o 372._o to_o have_v no_o judge_n for_o the_o end_n of_o ecclesiastical_a contention_n be_v the_o utter_a subversion_n of_o all_o peace_n so_o according_a to_o he_o 370_o he_o ib._n p._n 370_o synod_n be_v a_o external_a judicial_a mean_n to_o discern_v error_n the_o same_o be_v as_o he_o teach_v 372._o teach_v ib._n p._n 372._o strengthen_v with_o the_o promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o according_o observe_v by_o the_o ancient_a father_n who_o say_v he_o 374._o he_o ib._n p._n 374._o in_o all_o age_n aswell_o before_o as_o since_o the_o great_a council_n of_o nice_a have_v approve_v and_o practise_v this_o course_n as_o the_o sure_a mean_n to_o decide_v doubt_n with_o who_o agree_v melancthon_n say_v 1._o say_v in_o council_n theol._n par_fw-fr 2._o p._n 1._o let_v they_o assemble_v general_n or_o national_a counsel_n etc._n etc._n because_o it_o be_v write_v tell_v the_o church_n this_o be_v the_o custom_n in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o very_a beginning_n etc._n etc._n and_o counsel_n be_v the_o proper_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o 211._o and_o ib._n p._n 2._o and_o see_v l._n 1._o epist._n p._n 211._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o there_o be_v judgement_n in_o the_o church_n neither_o can_v other_o nation_n but_o be_v scandalize_v if_o they_o shall_v hear_v that_o we_o refuse_v the_o judgement_n of_o all_o synod_n and_o whereas_o some_o object_n that_o counsel_n may_v err_v m._n hooker_n 27._o hooker_n ecc._n pol._n p._n 27._o answer_v thereto_o himself_o and_o further_o conclude_v that_o 28._o that_o ib._n p._n 28._o the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v to_o have_v we_o do_v whatsoever_o the_o sentence_n of_o judicial_a and_o final_a decision_n shall_v determine_v yea_o though_o it_o 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leo_n foelix_fw-la gelasius_n the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n &_o of_o africa_n and_o the_o 6._o of_o carthage_n of_o sardis_n sixtus_n innocentius_n siricius_n sozimus_n damasus_n julius_n stephen_n denis_n cyprian_n victor_n anicetus_n cornelius_n ireneus_fw-la papias_n peter_n and_o the_o other_o apostle_n the_o protestant_n produce_v and_o reprove_v the_o foresay_a father_n be_v the_o centurie-writer_n danaeus_n caluin_n bucer_n philippus_n nicolai_n peter_n martyr_n carion_n bullinger_n melancthon_n osiander_n friccius_n beza_n crispinus_n tilenus_n frigivilleus_n gawius_n bibliander_n amandus_n polanus_fw-la hamelmannus_fw-la illyricus_n lubbertus_n saravia_n napper_n mornay_n whitguift_n carthwright_n whitaker_n fulk_n bilson_n trige_n rainolds_n brightman_n bale_n simonides_n bunnie_n spark_n midleton_n fox_n morton_n and_o field_n every_o one_o whereof_o do_v cite_v and_o reprove_v some_o father_n or_o council_n before_o mention_v concern_v some_o branch_n 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&_o zuingl_n praef._n bibl._n a_o se_fw-la convers_n calu._n inst_z l._n 1._o c._n 12._o §._o 8._o l._n 2._o c._n 5._o §._o 18._o l._n 3._o c._n 5._o §._o 8._o as_o mere_o apocryphal_a and_o only_a human_a now_o to_o decide_v this_o so_o weighty_a a_o controversy_n by_o the_o primitive_a church_n whereas_o in_o the_o three_o carthage_n council_n whereat_o s._n austin_n and_o sundry_a other_o father_n and_o bishop_n be_v present_a and_o subscribe_v it_o be_v express_o define_v that_o 47_o that_o can._n 47_o nothing_o be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n under_o the_o name_n of_o divine_a scripture_n beside_o canonical_a scripture_n and_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n be_v genesis_n exodus_fw-la etc._n etc._n five_o book_n of_o solomon_n etc._n etc._n toby_n judith_n hester_n two_o book_n of_o esdras_n two_o book_n of_o maccabee_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o also_o the_o same_o canon_n of_o scripture_n be_v make_v and_o number_v particular_o by_o s._n austin_n lect._n austin_n de_fw-fr doct._n christi_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 8_o innoc._n ep_v ad_fw-la exup_n c._n 7._o gel._n to._n 1._o council_n in_o decret_a cum_fw-la 70._o ep._n isid_n l_o 6._o etymol_n c._n 1._o rabanus_n l._n 2._o instit_fw-la cler_fw-mi cassiod_n l._n 2._o divinarum_fw-la lect._n himself_o as_o also_o by_o innocentius_n gelasius_n and_o other_o ancient_a writer_n the_o truth_n hereof_o be_v so_o manifest_a that_o the_o same_o be_v confess_v by_o sundry_a protestant_a writer_n and_o the_o same_o council_n and_o father_n in_o steed_n of_o better_a answer_n severe_o reprehend_v for_o the_o same_o hiperius_n 46._o hiperius_n meth._n theol._n l._n 1._o p._n 46._o avouch_v that_o in_o the_o three_o carthage_n council_n there_o be_v add_v to_o the_o canon_n etc._n etc._n sapientia_fw-la and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la two_o book_n of_o maccabee_n toby_n judith_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o book_n in_o the_o same_o order_n number_v augustin_n innocentius_n &_o gelasius_n for_o which_o he_o at_o large_a afterward_o 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acknowledge_v and_o reject_v by_o hospinian_n 246._o hospinian_n hist_o sacr_n part_n 1._o p._n 161._o hip._n meth._n theol._n p._n 46._o zanch._n the_o sacrascrip_n p._n 32._o 33._o field_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 246._o h●perius_n zanchius_n &_o d._n field_n but_o brentius_n avouch_v more_o in_o general_n that_o 7●3_n that_o apol._n confess_v wittemb_v see_v bucers_n scripta_fw-la angl_n p._n 7●3_n there_o be_v some_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n who_o receive_v say_v he_o these_o apocryphal_a book_n into_o the_o number_n of_o canonical_a scripture_n and_o in_o like_a sort_n some_o counsel_n command_v they_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v as_o canonical_a i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a what_o be_v do_v but_o i_o demand_v whether_o it_o be_v right_o and_o canonical_o do_v last_o d._n covel_n not_o only_o most_o plain_o confess_v s._n augustine_n like_a judgement_n have_v of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n but_o withal_o further_o affirm_v 87_o affirm_v ib._n p_o 87_o of_o all_o these_o book_n that_o if_o ruffinus_n be_v not_o deceive_v they_o be_v approve_v as_o part_n of_o the_o old_a testago_v by_o the_o apostle_n so_o clear_o it_o be_v that_o this_o foresay_a book_n be_v confess_o believe_v to_o be_v canonical_a by_o the_o primitive_a church_n add_v hereunto_o that_o 176._o that_o of_o the_o church_n p._n 245._o 246._o hut_n 2._o part_n of_o his_o answ_n p_o 176._o d._n field_n &_o m._n hutton_n both_o of_o they_o teach_v that_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_a jew_n receive_v the_o foresay_a book_n for_o true_o canonical_a though_o other_o of_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v and_o receive_v the_o same_o according_o yet_o be_v the_o say_a jew_n therefore_o express_o reprove_v by_o protestant_n themselves_n bibliander_n term_v it_o the_o rashness_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o which_o his_o censure_n he_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o protestant_a sceltco_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o second_o come_n of_o christ_n english_v by_o m._n rogers_n 6._o rogers_n fol._n 6._o for_o the_o suppose_a worth_n thereof_o d._n bancroft_n 60._o bancroft_n p._n 60._o in_o the_o very_a conference_n before_o his_o majesty_n reject_v the_o objection_n of_o the_o jew_n make_v against_o these_o book_n term_v they_o the_o old_a cavil_n of_o the_o jew_n renew_v by_o hierom_n who_o be_v the_o first_o that_o give_v they_o the_o name_n of_o apocrypha_fw-la which_o opinion_n upon_o ruffi●us_n his_o challenge_n he_o after_o a_o sort_n disclaim_v yea_o d._n bancroft_n be_v so_o full_a with_o catholic_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o say_a book_n as_o that_o other_o of_o his_o own_o brethren_n charge_v he_o further_a to_o say_v 108._o say_v the_o 2._o part_n of_o the_o minister_n def._n p._n 108._o that_o the_o apocrypha_fw-la be_v give_v by_o inspiration_n from_o god_n which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o to_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v true_o divine_a and_o canonical_a and_o as_o concern_v the_o book_n ecclesiasticus_fw-la it_o be_v defend_v to_o be_v true_o canonical_a by_o the_o protestant_a writer_n volanum_n writer_n ep._n ad_fw-la volanum_n lascicius_fw-la and_o parker_n of_o which_o late_a d._n willet_n 69_o willet_n londoro_n mastix_fw-la p._n 69_o say_v how_o audacious_a be_v this_o fellow_n that_o contrary_a to_o the_o determination_n of_o this_o church_n of_o england_n dare_v make_v ecclesiasticus_fw-la a_o book_n of_o canonical_a scripture_n 77._o scripture_n against_o burges_n p._n 76_o 77._o furthermore_n see_v it_o be_v express_o teach_v and_o defend_v by_o sundry_a protestant_n that_o this_o weighty_a controversy_n of_o discern_v true_a scripture_n from_o forge_a can_v not_o be_v decide_v by_o the_o 86._o the_o hook_n ecol_n pol._n l._n 1_o p._n 86._o scripture_n themselves_o neither_o by_o testimony_n 147._o testimony_n whit._fw-la cont_n staplet_n p._n 370._o 357._o hook_n ubi_fw-la sup_n p_o 147._o of_o the_o spirit_n but_o 24._o but_o hook_n ib._n p._n 146._o 116._o aretiu_fw-la exam_n p._n 24._o by_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n church_n hence_o it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v decide_v and_o determine_v this_o foresay_a controversy_n and_o
of_o the_o old_a testament_n now_o in_o question_n and_o that_o the_o foresay_a epistle_n of_o s._n peter_n s._n james_n s._n john_n s._n jude_n and_o the_o apocalypse_v be_v doubt_v of_o by_o some_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o not_o general_o receive_v by_o all_o it_o be_v further_o confess_v by_o the_o dean_n of_o paul_n and_o windsor_n who_o in_o the_o tower_n disputation_n have_v with_o that_o ornament_n of_o our_o nation_n and_o most_o victorious_a martyr_n edmund_n campian_n do_v thus_o report_v of_o themselves_o 1._o themselves_o the_o first_o ●_z conf._n d._n 1._o for_o proof_n hereof_o we_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o hierom_n in_o catal._n where_o he_o thus_o write_v the_o epistle_n of_o james_n be_v say_v to_o be_v publish_v by_o some_o other_o under_o his_o name_n and_o of_o the_o 2._o of_o peter_n he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v deny_v of_o many_o to_o be_v his_o we_o also_o allege_v eusebius_n write_v thus_o those_o book_n that_o be_v gaynsay_v though_o they_o be_v know_v to_o many_o be_v these_o the_o epistle_n attribute_v to_o james_n the_o epistle_n of_o jude_n the_o latter_a of_o peter_n the_o 2._o and_o 3._o of_o john_n and_o d._n walker_n in_o the_o same_o disputation_n affirm_v 6._o affirm_v 4._o day_n conf●r_n f●l_n 2._o 6._o that_o s._n hierom_n say_v concern_v that_o epistle_n which_o be_v write_v to_o the_o hebrew_n many_o have_v doubt_v of_o it_o and_o also_o concern_v the_o 2._o of_o peter_n he_o say_v it_o be_v doubt_v of_o by_o many_o and_o so_o with_o some_o be_v the_o two_o last_o epistle_n of_o john_n etc._n etc._n now_o if_o the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n toby_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o canonical_a because_o as_o protestant_n fore_o object_v they_o be_v reject_v or_o doubt_v by_o some_o ancient_a writer_n then_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n protestant_n must_v likewise_o reject_v the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrews_n the_o epistle_n of_o s_o peter_n s._n james_n s._n jude_n s._n john_n and_o the_o apocalypse_v because_o these_o also_o be_v no_o less_o doubt_v &_o reject_v by_o sundry_a ancient_a writer_n wherefore_o the_o weakness_n and_o ensue_a absurdity_n of_o this_o objection_n be_v thus_o discover_v we_o be_v to_o observe_v that_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n be_v to_o we_o at_o this_o day_n discern_v and_o make_v know_v not_o by_o that_o which_o some_o ancient_a writer_n omit_v deny_v or_o doubt_v of_o but_o by_o that_o which_o most_o of_o the_o father_n constant_o affirm_v and_o chief_o by_o that_o which_o be_v judge_v and_o decree_v by_o the_o catholic_n church_n lawful_o assemble_v in_o general_a council_n three_o some_o object_n that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o foresay_a book_n diverse_a repugnance_n or_o contradiction_n and_o consequent_o that_o they_o be_v not_o inspire_v by_o the_o holie-ghost_n but_o to_o omit_v that_o in_o those_o scripture_n which_o be_v believe_v by_o all_o to_o be_v canonical_a there_o be_v many_o hide_a difficulty_n and_o seem_a 361._o seem_a see_v mat._n 10.10_o &_o mar._n 6.8_o 1._o reg._n 8.9_o 2._o par._n 5.10_o &_o hebr._n 9.4_o act._n 9.7_o &_o act_n 22.9_o math._n 26.34_o &_o marc_n 14.68_o mar._n 15.25_o &_o io._n 19.14_o luc._n 3.35.36_o &_o gen._n 11.12_o and_o see_v jewel_n def._n etc._n etc._n p._n 361._o repugnance_n which_o yet_o notwithstanding_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o acknowledge_v the_o say_v scripture_n to_o be_v true_a and_o sacred_a i_o will_v for_o brevity_n only_o allege_v what_o other_o protestant_n think_v and_o answer_v themselves_o to_o the_o foresay_a pretend_a contradiction_n in_o the_o book_n of_o machabee_n toby_n etc._n etc._n d._n covel_n 85._o covel_n answ_n to_o burges_n p._n 85._o write_v we_o can_v without_o violence_n have_v afford_v they_o the_o reconcilement_n of_o other_o scripture_n and_o undoubted_o have_v prove_v they_o to_o be_v most_o true_a yea_o he_o particular_o answer_v certain_a of_o the_o pretend_a repugnance_n in_o like_a sort_n conradus_n pelican_n dedic_n pelican_n ep._n dedic_n professor_n at_o tigure_n write_v his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o foresay_a book_n say_v i_o easy_o yield_v &c._n &c._n especial_o see_v those_o book_n be_v always_o account_v so_o ecclesiastical_a and_o biblical_a that_o even_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n they_o be_v read_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n with_o much_o reverence_n although_o they_o be_v not_o produce_v in_o authority_n against_o the_o jew_n as_o canonical_a who_o receive_v not_o these_o into_o their_o sacred_a canon_n whereas_o they_o do_v not_o only_o not_o contradict_v in_o any_o thing_n the_o writing_n of_o the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n 90._o prophet_n ib._n p._n 87_o 88_o 89._o 90._o but_o also_o &c._n &c._n for_o the_o most_o part_n they_o clear_o carry_v the_o right_a style_n of_o the_o holie-ghost_n certain_a knot_n or_o difficulty_n intermingle_v which_o be_v sound_v more_o easy_a to_o be_v loose_v than_o some_o have_v think_v etc._n etc._n whereupon_o they_o be_v ever_o reverence_v and_o read_v by_o holy_a man_n yea_o the_o saying_n thereof_o be_v find_v to_o be_v allege_v by_o the_o apostle_n agreable_o hereto_o m._n hutton_n 239._o hutton_n 2._o parte_fw-la of_o the_o answ_n p._n 238._o 239._o at_o large_a answer_v and_o clear_v the_o common_a objection_n against_o judith_n and_o the_o like_a in_o behalf_n of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la 247._o ecclesiasticus_fw-la ibid._n p._n 247._o and_o 713._o and_o ibid._n p._n 246._o and_o see_v bucers_n scripta_fw-la anglic_fw-la p._n 713._o daniel_n so_o weak_a and_o impertinent_a be_v the_o contradiction_n pretend_v by_o protestant_n against_o the_o foresay_a book_n now_o from_o the_o premise_n &_o that_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o adversary_n we_o may_v collect_v that_o the_o foresay_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v only_a not_o approve_v for_o true_o canonical_a by_o s._n austin_n innocentius_n gelasius_n and_o all_o the_o father_n and_o bishop_n of_o the_o 3._o carthage_n council_n but_o also_o be_v approve_v as_o part_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o for_o such_o allege_a by_o they_o and_o so_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v read_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n with_o much_o reverence_n witness_n whereof_o be_v the_o protestant_a writer_n hiperius_n lubbertus_n zanchius_n hospiman_n trelcatius_n ho_o scelico_n brentius_n bibliander_n lascicius_fw-la pelican_n raynolds_n parker_n field_n covel_n bancroft_n hutton_n parkes_n &_o d._n bilson_n all_o of_o they_o afford_v their_o help_a hand_n in_o maintain_v and_o defend_v the_o foresay_a book_n by_o true_a antiquity_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v our_o now_o catholic_n doctrine_n concern_v tradition_n chapter_n vi._n the_o catholic_n doctrine_n concern_v 3_o concern_v bellarm._n de_fw-fr verb._n dei_fw-la non_fw-la scripto_fw-la l._n 4_o c_o 3_o tradition_n be_v that_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n or_o write_v word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o express_o contain_v all_o point_n or_o matter_n concern_v faith_n and_o manner_n and_o therefore_o beside_o the_o same_o be_v necessary_o require_v the_o not_o write_v word_n of_o god_n that_o be_v divine_a and_o apostolical_a tradition_n to_o the_o contrary_a protestant_n 8_o protestant_n luth._o in_o comment_n c._n 1._o ad_fw-la gal._n caluin_n inst_z l._n 4._o c._n 8._o sec_fw-la 8_o direct_o teach_v that_o all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o that_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v or_o do_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o teach_v and_o command_v thereby_o now_o what_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o whether_o the_o present_a roman_a or_o protestant_a church_n do_v symbolize_v and_o agree_v therewith_o the_o sequel_n only_o take_v from_o the_o free_a and_o liberal_a testimony_n of_o protestant_n themselves_o shall_v evident_o demonstrate_v and_o to_o begin_v with_o s._n gregory_n d._n morton_n confess_v that_o 62._o that_o prot._n appeal_v l._n 4._o p_o 62._o he_o use_v to_o confirm_v some_o thing_n by_o tradition_n s._n augustin_n also_o who_o d._n field_n 170._o field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o p._n 170._o term_v austin_n the_o great_a of_o all_o the_o father_n and_o worthy_a divine_a the_o church_n of_o god_n ever_o have_v since_o the_o apostle_n time_n this_o indeed_o most_o worthy_a divine_a endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v by_o heretic_n shall_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v free_o confess_v that_o 23._o that_o de_fw-fr bapt._n cont_n don._n l._n 5._o c._n 23._o the_o apostle_n command_v nothing_o hereof_o but_o that_o custom_n which_o be_v oppose_v herein_o against_o cyprian_a be_v to_o be_v believe_v to_o proceed_v from_o their_o tradition_n as_o many_o thing_n be_v which_o the_o whole_a church_n hold_v and_o be_v therefore_o well_o believe_v to_o be_v command_v of_o the_o apostle_n although_o they_o be_v not_o write_v a_o say_v so_o evident_a
193._o now_o because_o priest_n without_o knowledge_n and_o confession_n of_o sin_n can_v not_o discern_v or_o judge_v when_o or_o what_o sin_n be_v to_o be_v remit_v or_o retain_v it_o be_v further_a likewise_o confess_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n confession_n auricular_a and_o particular_a of_o sin_n to_o the_o priest_n be_v teach_v and_o practise_v and_o though_o 490._o though_o contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 7._o p._n 490._o d._n whitaker_n do_v affirm_v that_o innocentius_n the_o three_o be_v the_o first_o that_o institute_v auricular_a confession_n for_o necessary_a yet_o s._n leo_n who_o live_v almost_o eight_o hundred_o year_n before_o this_o innocentius_n be_v charge_v with_o like_a innovation_n by_o m._n simonides_n 57_o simonides_n upon_o the_o revel_v p._n 57_o say_v leo_n the_o first_o first_o brought-in_a auricular_a confession_n and_o then_o present_o after_o he_o cit_v s._n leo_n his_o own_o word_n for_o auricular_a confession_n and_o whereas_o long_v before_o innocentius_n the_o jacobite_n be_v condemn_v for_o affirm_v that_o we_o be_v to_o confess_v our_o sin_n to_o god_n only_o and_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n to_o a_o priest_n be_v not_o needful_a this_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o protestant_a 126._o protestant_a p._n 126._o author_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n but_o to_o clear_v also_o s._n leo_n of_o all_o novellisme_n in_o this_o hehalf_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o centurist_n 426._o centurist_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 425._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 426._o that_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n who_o live_v above_o one_o hundred_o year_n before_o s._n leo_n that_o the_o christian_n as_o then_o to_o this_o end_n have_v a_o priest_n etc._n etc._n appoint_v to_o who_o those_o come_n who_o have_v sin_v shall_v confess_v the_o sin_n they_o have_v commit_v etc._n etc._n and_o the_o priest_n upon_o that_o condition_n absolve_v those_o who_o confess_v that_o they_o shall_v desire_v from_o he_o penance_n for_o their_o sin_n yea_o they_o arise_v high_a and_o plain_o confess_v ●27_n confess_v cent._n 3._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr ●27_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a &_o tertulian_n private_a confession_n of_o thought_n and_o lesser_a sin_n be_v use_v and_o think_v necessary_a and_o their_o word_n be_v these_o absolution_n from_o sin_n be_v so_o give_v that_o those_o who_o do_v pennance_n first_o confess_v their_o sin_n for_o so_o do_v tertulian_n great_o urge_v confession_n in_o his_o book_n of_o penance_n and_o that_o private_a confession_n be_v usual_a wherein_o they_o confess_v their_o crime_n as_o also_o their_o wicked_a thought_n it_o appear_v by_o some_o place_n of_o cyprian_a as_o in_o the_o five_o sermon_n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la &_o three_o book_n of_o epistle_n ep_v 14._o &_o 16._o where_o he_o plain_o say_v even_o for_o lesser_a sin_n which_o be_v not_o commit_v direct_o against_o god_n it_o be_v needful_a to_o go_v to_o confession_n and_o this_o he_o command_v to_o be_v do_v often_o l._n 1._o ep_v 3._o etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o the_o centurist_n confession_n be_v make_v by_o the_o penitent_a to_o the_o priest_n the_o centurist_n 386._o centurist_n cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 127_o &_o 81._o 38._o 49._o 82._o and_o see_v caluin_n instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12._o §._o 8._o and_o conc._n laodicenum_n can._n 2._o apud_fw-la osiand_n cent_n 4_o p_o 386._o further_o confess_v that_o pennance_n or_o satisfaction_n be_v enjoin_v according_a to_o the_o offence_n and_o that_o the_o priest_n 868._o priest_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 425._o 426._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 491._o 834._o 868._o do_v absolve_v those_o who_o confess_v their_o sin_n upon_o that_o condition_n that_o they_o will_v demand_v punishment_n for_o the_o same_o and_o d._n whitaker_n 78._o whitaker_n cont._n camp_n rat_n 5._o p._n 78._o acknowledge_v that_o cyprian_a &_o tertulian_n thought_n by_o such_o their_o external_a discipline_n of_o life_n to_o pay_v the_o pain_n due_a for_o sin_n and_o to_o satisfy_v god_n justice_n and_o that_o not_o cyprian_n only_o but_o almost_o all_o the_o most_o holy_a father_n of_o that_o time_n be_v in_o that_o error_n so_o likewise_o melancthon_n 16._o melancthon_n in_o his_o libelli_fw-la aliquot_fw-la fol._n 10._o 11._o 16._o dislike_v that_o cyprian_a urge_v canonical_a penance_n etc._n etc._n and_o confirm_v the_o opinion_n as_o though_o they_o be_v necessary_a &_o that_o for_o they_o sin_n be_v forgive_v etc._n etc._n in_o like_a sort_n the_o whole_a nycene_n council_n overcome_v with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o multitude_n and_o time_n approve_v the_o canon_n of_o penance_n and_o for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n he_o reprove_v the_o 28._o the_o ibid._n fol._n 19_o &_o 28._o carthage_n council_n &_o s._n chrysostome_n chemnitius_n 68_o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 4._o p._n 68_o charge_v the_o father_n in_o general_a say_v i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o the_o old_a father_n do_v sometime_o over_o large_o and_o with_o word_n over_o lofty_a command_n that_o canonical_a discipline_n as_o that_o tertulian_n say_v by_o these_o satisfaction_n sin_n be_v purge_v cyprian_n say_v by_o they_o sin_n be_v redeem_v wash_v cure_v ambrose_n by_o they_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n be_v recompense_v augustin_n god_n by_o they_o be_v pacify_v for_o sin_n past_a and_o such_o like_a saying_n there_o be_v which_o with_o true_a faith_n neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v take_v as_o they_o sound_v and_o hamelmanus_fw-la avouch_v that_o cyprian_a seem_v foul_o to_o have_v err_v concern_v satisfaction_n yea_o say_v caluin_n 38._o caluin_n pref._n inst_z ad_fw-la reg._n galliae_fw-la and_o see_v inst_z l._n 3._o c._n 4._o §._o 38._o those_o thing_n which_o every_o foot_n occur_v in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o old_a writer_n or_o father_n touch_v satisfaction_n move_v i_o but_o little_a 97._o little_a de_fw-fr tradit_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 7._o col_fw-fr 97._o for_o i_o see_v that_o diverse_a of_o they_o i_o will_v say_v simple_o as_o it_o be_v almost_o all_o who_o work_n be_v extant_a either_o have_v err_v in_o this_o matter_n or_o have_v speak_v over_o crabed_o &_o hardly_o and_o again_o 8._o again_o inst_z l._n 3_o 4_o c._n 12._o §._o 8._o the_o immoderate_a austerity_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n can_v not_o way_n be_v excuse_v it_o differ_v whole_o from_o the_o commandment_n of_o our_o lord_n &_o be_v very_o dangerous_a here_o their_o wisdom_n be_v to_o be_v require_v as_o also_o 16._o also_o inst_z l._n 3_o c_o 3_o §._o 16._o the_o ancient_a writer_n exceed_v measure_n with_o immoderate_a praise_n they_o commend_v that_o corporal_a discipline_n they_o be_v more_o severe_a in_o exact_v chastisement_n then_o ecclesiastical_a lenity_n do_v permit_v and_o the_o centurist_n speak_v of_o the_o three_o age_n affirm_v that_o 81._o that_o cent._n 3._o p._n 81._o most_o of_o the_o doctor_n of_o this_o age_n do_v wonderful_o deprave_v the_o doctrine_n of_o penance_n yea_o they_o spare_v not_o to_o say_v of_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n that_o 62._o that_o cent._n 2._o p._n 62._o even_o then_o this_o part_n of_o doctrine_n concern_v penance_n begin_v to_o be_v weaken_v now_o as_o concern_v indulgence_n or_o pardon_n of_o temporal_a punishment_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o m._n simonides_n 84._o simonides_n upon_o the_o revel_v p._n 84._o that_o s._n gregory_n remit_v canonical_a penance_n &_o promise_v clean_a remission_n of_o sin_n to_o such_o as_o frequent_v church_n on_o set_a day_n m._n bale_n 47._o bale_n in_o act._n rom._n pontif._n p._n 46_o 47._o affirm_v that_o gregory_n confirm_v by_o indulgence_n pilgrimage_n to_o image_n for_o the_o devotion_n of_o the_o people_n and_o that_o he_o be_v a_o defender_n of_o pardon_n yet_o not_o a_o seller_n as_o also_o that_o he_o first_o grant_v pardon_n for_o set_a day_n and_o to_o such_o as_o visit_v church_n in_o like_a manner_n pantaleon_n 48._o pantaleon_n in_o chr._n p._n 48._o avouch_v of_o he_o that_o he_o first_o grant_v pardon_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o people_n visit_v church_n upon_o set_a day_n in_o decret_n &_o in_o 3._o psal_n paenit_fw-la 48._o paenit_fw-la in_o his_o euseb_n capt._n publish_v by_o p●zelius_n under_o the_o title_n of_o act._n 1._o diei_fw-la de_fw-la indulgentijs_fw-la fol._n 48._o hieronymus_n marius_n think_v that_o gregory_n the_o first_o and_o boniface_n the_o eigth_n be_v the_o chief_a author_n of_o pardon_n cyprian_a 32._o cyprian_a in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o life_n of_o pope_n engl._n p._n 32._o also_o valera_n confess_v of_o s._n grogorie_n that_o he_o grant_v pardon_n but_o sell_v they_o not_o and_o d._n humphrey_n 627._o humphrey_n in_o jesuit_n part_n 2._o rat_n 5._o p_o 5._o &_o 627._o repeat_v sundry_a catholic_n point_n of_o faith_n teach_v and_o bring_v into_o england_n by_o s._n gregory_n &_o s._n austin_n infer_v from_o they_o in_o these_o word_n from_o all_o which_o what_o else_o be_v intend_v but_o that_o pardon_n monachisme_n papistry_n
and_o even_o the_o whole_a chaos_n of_o popish_a superstition_n be_v build_v up_o but_o to_o clear_v s._n gregory_n of_o all_o innovation_n in_o this_o point_n of_o doctrine_n the_o centurist_n acknowledge_v that_o 692._o that_o cent._n 5._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 692._o s._n chrysostom_n mention_v day_n of_o indulgence_n and_o pardon_n and_o d._n field_n 33._o field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o p._n 33._o confess_v that_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n be_v wont_a to_o cut_v off_o great_a part_n of_o enjoin_v penance_n which_o remission_n be_v call_v a_o indulgence_n now_o to_o conclude_v confession_n be_v make_v and_o penance_n enjoin_v the_o priest_n as_o the_o centurist_n confess_v for_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o three_o age_n do_v afterward_o absolve_v the_o penitent_n even_o with_o the_o now-like_a use_v ceremony_n of_o impose_v his_o hand_n so_o that_o the_o primitive_a and_o our_o present_a roman_a church_n do_v confess_o agree_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o penance_n first_o as_o that_o priest_n have_v true_o power_n to_o remit_v sin_n second_o that_o auricular_a confession_n be_v necessary_a three_o that_o after_o confession_n pennance_n be_v to_o be_v impose_v four_o 127._o four_o cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 127._o that_o the_o same_o be_v true_o satisfactory_a five_o after_o penance_n absolution_n be_v give_v with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n six_o yea_o pardon_n and_o indulgence_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v grant_v and_o use_v in_o those_o pure_a time_n of_o the_o church_n primitive_a now_o the_o father_n cite_v and_o reprove_v by_o protestant_n for_o our_o foresay_a doctrine_n be_v s._n gregory_n leo_n chrysostom_n the_o doctor_n in_o the_o age_n of_o constantin_n ambrose_n augustin_n cyprian_n tertulian_n the_o carthage_n council_n the_o 1._o council_n of_o niece_n and_o the_o father_n in_o general_n the_o protestant_n accuse_v they_o be_v the_o centurie-writer_n caluin_n chemnitius_n melancthon_n hamelmanus_fw-la osiander_n hieronimus_fw-la marius_n pantaleon_n valera_n simonides_n bale_n humphrey_n field_n morton_n and_o whitaker_n it_o be_v grant_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o of_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v believe_v teach_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chapter_n xi_o what_o more_o general_o dislike_v by_o protestant_n then_o our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o our_o charitable_a pracise_n of_o pray_v &_o sacrifice_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o yet_o what_o more_o general_o confess_v by_o protestant_n to_o have_v be_v the_o belief_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n than_o purgatory_n prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a concern_v s._n gregory_n d._n humphrey_n 627._o humphrey_n in_o jesuit_n part_n 2._o rat_n 5_o p._n 5._o &_o 627._o acknowledge_v that_o he_o teach_v we_o englishmen_n by_o the_o preach_n of_o s._n austin_n the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n etc._n etc._n the_o oblation_n of_o the_o healthful_a sacrifice_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 568._o dead_a in_o chro._n l._n 4._o p._n 567._o 568._o carion_n confess_v that_o he_o approve_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o oblation_n of_o christ_n body_n &_o blood_n to_o be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a john_n bale_n 47._o bale_n in_o act._n rom._n pontif._n p._n 44._o 45._o 46._o 47._o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o he_o make_v his_o four_o book_n of_o dialogue_n for_o the_o uphold_v of_o purgatory_n etc._n etc._n and_o admit_v even_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a the_o magdeburgian_o gregory_n magdeburgian_o in_o the_o index_n of_o the_o 6._o centurie_n at_o the_o word_n gregory_n charge_v he_o out_o of_o his_o own_o writing_n with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n etc._n etc._n 373._o etc._n cent._n 6._o col_fw-fr 373._o and_o with_o oblation_n of_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a d._n fulk_n 3._o fulk_n ag._n rhem._n test_n in_o 1_o cor._n 3._o say_v in_o the_o day_n of_o gregory_n etc._n etc._n the_o opinion_n of_o purgatory_n have_v get_v some_o ground_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n etc._n etc._n yet_o in_o the_o place_n by_o the_o rhemiste_n quote_v he_o grant_v it_o but_o for_o very_o small_a offence_n d._n sutcliffe_n avouch_v that_o gregory_n 4._o gregory_n subversion_n c._n 4._o use_v litany_n allow_v purgatory_n etc._n etc._n and_o whereas_o d._n whitaker_n confident_o avouch_v that_o 480._o that_o contra_fw-la duraeum_n l._n 7._o p._n 480._o he_o that_o first_o deliver_v purgatory_n for_o a_o certain_a doctrine_n be_v gregory_n the_o great_a yet_o m._n simonides_n 83._o simonides_n upon_o the_o revel_v p_o 83._o only_o charge_v he_o not_o with_o beginning_n but_o with_o increase_v two_o pernicious_a thing_n in_o the_o church_n invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a yea_o d._n morton_n confess_v that_o s._n gregory_n ●0_n gregory_n prot._n appeal_v l_o 1._o sec._n 17._o p._n 19_o ●0_n frame_v thus_o his_o conclusion_n because_o such_o soul_n depart_v appear_v after_o desire_v the_o help_n of_o the_o live_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n be_v profitahle_n for_o they_o whereupon_o our_o doctor_n conclude_v say_v this_o do_v give_v we_o cause_n to_o observe_v in_o he_o a_o deep_a plunge_n into_o superstition_n and_o again_o s._n augustin_n speak_v with_o a_o peradventure_o but_o s._n gregory_n kindle_v the_o fire_n with_o a_o credo_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o now_o of_o late_a the_o romanist_n have_v blow●e_v the_o flame_n with_o a_o anathema_n so_o hot_o do_o roman_a catholic_n follow_v the_o send_v give_v by_o s_n gregory_n and_o s._n augustin_n but_o to_o clear_v s._n gregory_n of_o all_o innovation_n in_o this_o point_n 498._o point_n ibid._n p._n 498._o i_o will_v ascend_v to_o his_o predecessor_n and_o ancient_n and_o to_o begin_v with_o s._n augustin_n who_o tho_o d._n morton_n pretend_v to_o speak_v hereof_o only_o with_o a_o peradventure_o or_o doubtful_o yet_o bullinger_n have_v peruse_v diverse_a place_n of_o s._n augustins_n writing_n concern_v this_o point_n avouch_v 223._o avouch_v de_fw-fr orig●●_n errori●_n f._n 223._o that_o not_o in_o one_o but_o in_o many_o place_n augustin_n make_v mention_n of_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n in_o enchirid._n c._n 109._o for_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v say_v he_o but_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v by_o the_o piety_n of_o their_o live_a friend_n when_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mediator_n be_v offer_v for_o they_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o 32._o sermon_n de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la this_o say_v he_o deliver_v from_o the_o father_n the_o whole_a church_n observe_v that_o prayer_n be_v make_v for_o they_o who_o die_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n when_o in_o their_o place_n they_o be_v remember_v in_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o the_o sacrifice_n also_o be_v offer_v for_o they_o this_o therefore_o say_v bullinger_n i_o set_v down_o more_o at_o large_a that_o thou_o may_v understand_v this_o custom_n of_o sacrifice_v for_o the_o dead_a to_o be_v ordain_v not_o by_o the_o apostle_n but_o by_o the_o holy_a father_n d._n willet_n affirm_v that_o diverse_a of_o the_o ancient_a father_n 97._o father_n tetrastylon_n part_n 3._o p._n 97._o do_v incline_v too_o much_o to_o maintain_v and_o commend_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a with_o which_o error_n say_v he_o s._n austin_n seem_v somewhat_o to_o be_v infect_v augustine_n sayrh_n caluin_n 10_o caluin_n inst●t_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 5._o §_o 10_o in_o his_o book_n of_o confession_n tell_v that_o his_o mother_n monica_n earnest_o desire_v that_o memory_n of_o she_o may_v be_v make_v at_o the_o altar_n in_o perform_v the_o mystery_n a_o old_a woman_n desire_n say_v caluin_n which_o her_o son_n square_v not_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o scripture_n but_o through_o affection_n of_o nature_n will_v have_v it_o approve_v to_o other_o d._n fulk_n confess_v that_o 100l_n that_o in_o his_o confut_o of_o purgat_fw-la p._n 100l_n austin_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 13._o conclude_v very_o clear_o that_o some_o suffer_v temporal_a pain_n after_o this_o life_n this_o may_v not_o be_v deny_v yea_o he_o bold_o avouch_v that_o austin_n 313._o austin_n ibid._n p_o 313._o blind_o defend_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a d._n morton_n affirm_v that_o protestant_a author_n 495._o author_n prot._n appeal_n p._n 495._o have_v observe_v s._n augustin_n to_o have_v be_v the_o first_o who_o open_v the_o window_n unto_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n by_o who_o own_o direction_n say_v he_o we_o have_v a_o good_a warrant_n to_o dissent_v from_o he_o etc._n etc._n so_o admit_v s._n austin_n for_o purgatory_n but_o most_o disgracious_o insinuate_v that_o therein_o he_o be_v contrary_a to_o himself_o which_o as_o most_o palpable_o untrue_a i_o forbear_v to_o confute_v and_o only_o proceed_v clear_o to_o show_v that_o neither_o s._n austin_n be_v first_o nor_o the_o sole_a man_n that_o open_v
be_v acknowledge_v of_o dionysius_n by_o melancthon_n 23._o melancthon_n in_o aliquot_fw-la libel_n etc._n etc._n fol._n 23._o &_o d._n fulk_n 353._o fulk_n against_o purgatory_n p._n 353._o which_o d._n fulk_n in_o plain_a word_n teach_v that_o tertulian_n 393._o tertulian_n against_o purgat_fw-la p._n 3●2_n &_o see_v p_o 303._o 393._o cyprian_n austin_n hierom_n and_o a_o great_a many_o more_o do_v witness_n that_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereunto_o bucer_n accord_v 311._o accord_v in_o enarrat_fw-la in_o sacra_fw-la quatuor_fw-la euangel_n in_o math._n c._n 12._o p_o 311._o affirm_v that_o prayer_n and_o alm_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a almost_o from_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o church_n last_o zuinglius_fw-la being_n impugn_a for_o deny_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o press_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o father_n especial_o of_o s._n chrysostom_n &_o s._n augustin_n who_o derive_v this_o custom_n from_o the_o apostle_n answer_v thus_o 10._o thus_o tom._n 1._o epicheroe_n de_fw-fr can._n miss_n f._n 186._o and_o see_v tom._n 2._o in_o elench_v contra_fw-la anabap_n f._n 10._o if_o it_o be_v so_o as_o augustin_n and_o chrysostom_n report_n i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n suffer_v certain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a for_o no_o other_o cause_n then_o to_o condescend_v to_o their_o infirmity_n so_o insimulate_v the_o apostle_n wilful_o to_o have_v permit_v other_o to_o err_v according_a to_o the_o error_n of_o protestant_n in_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o error_n in_o themselves_o yea_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o they_o dead_a be_v believe_v and_o practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a true_a believe_a jew_n for_o whereas_o m._n morton_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n affirm_v the_o doctrine_n then_o teach_v by_o the_o jew_n to_o be_v now_o know_v among_o other_o reason_n 94._o reason_n treat_n of_o israel_n &_o the_o church_n p._n 93._o 94._o by_o the_o open_a confession_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o all_o age_n since_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o hold_v even_o to_o this_o day_n those_o opinion_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o their_o ancestor_n and_o be_v common_o hold_v of_o that_o nation_n yea_o say_v the_o centurist_n 885._o centurist_n cent._n 8._o col_fw-fr 885._o the_o jew_n be_v constant_a in_o their_o opinion_n and_o pet._n martyr_n write_v that_o 599._o that_o com._n plac_n in_o engl._n part_n 2._o p._n 599._o the_o jew_n as_o yet_o continue_v and_o keep_v in_o so_o great_a adversity_n in_o so_o diverse_a and_o grievous_a captivity_n and_o dispersion_n they_o hold_v still_o their_o religion_n doubtless_o no_o ancient_a trojan_n lumbards_n hun_n or_o vandal_n have_v so_o hold_v their_o own_o etc._n etc._n and_o can_v show_v their_o original_n &_o history_n set_v forth_o in_o most_o true_a writing_n and_o be_v every_o where_o disperse_v as_o they_o be_v can_v nevertheless_o keep_v their_o own_o ordinance_n etc._n etc._n now_o concern_v these_o jew_n so_o constant_a in_o their_o faith_n and_o admit_v the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n but_o only_a for_o a_o true_a history_n it_o be_v evident_a thereby_o that_o judas_n machabeus_n a_o holy_a and_o just_a man_n procure_v 2.43.45_o procure_v 2._o machab_n 2.43.45_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o priest_n of_o jerusalem_n then_o true_a believer_n offer_v the_o same_o wherein_o also_o our_o late_a jew_n be_v so_o conformable_a that_o d._n whitaker_n confess_v the_o same_o in_o these_o word_n 85._o word_n cont._n dur._n l._n 1._o p._n 85._o i_o know_v that_o the_o jew_n have_v libros_fw-la memoriale_n book_n of_o commemoration_n which_o they_o read_v in_o their_o synagogue_n and_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o now_o they_o be_v accustom_v to_o use_v certain_a prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a insomuch_o that_o buxdorsius_n also_o report_v their_o know_a and_o confess_v doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n 275._o purgatory_n synagoga_fw-la judaica_n p._n 24._o 505._o 506._o 508._o 275._o d._n beard_n avouch_v that_o 77._o that_o retractive_a from_o the_o romish_a religion_n p._n 77._o the_o romanist_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o jew_n in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o they_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o prayer_n &_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v for_o the_o dead_a ground_v their_o opinion_n partly_o upon_o the_o example_n of_o judas_n machabeus_n who_o as_o they_o affirm_v procure_v sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v by_o the_o priest_n for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o partly_o upon_o the_o thalmudical_a tradition_n of_o diverse_a of_o their_o ancient_a rabbin_n from_o the_o premise_n than_o we_o may_v remember_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v confess_o believe_v a_o place_n of_o purgatory_n after_o this_o life_n second_o wherein_o sin_n be_v punish_v and_o remit_v three_o for_o which_o remission_n they_o use_v to_o pray_v give_v alm_n and_o offer_v the_o most_o precious_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n now_o the_o father_n acknowledge_v and_o reprehend_v by_o protestant_n for_o the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v s._n gregory_n austin_n ambrose_n hierome_n chrysostom_n prudentius_n epiphaenius_n pelagius_n the_o four_o carthage_n council_n cyprian_a tertullian_n origin_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n the_o apostle_n and_o the_o ancient_a believe_v jew_n the_o protestant_a writer_n observe_v and_o dislike_n in_o the_o say_a father_n the_o foresaid_a point_n be_v caluin_n beza_n bullinger_n zuinglius_fw-la the_o centurie-writer_n carion_n chemnitius_n osiander_n melancthon_n hospinian_n winkelmannus_n buxdorsius_n bucer_n symonde_n bale_n sutcliffe_n humphrey_n fulk_n whitaker_n gifford_n willet_n &_o morton_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n believe_v and_o teach_v our_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o christ_n descend_v into_o hel._n chapter_n xii_o according_a to_o the_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n he_o descend_v into_o hell_n catholic_n general_o teach_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n present_o after_o his_o death_n descend_v into_o hell_n or_o lymbus_n patrum_fw-la or_o abraham_n bosom_n there_o to_o deliver_v and_o redeem_v the_o captive_n soul_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n prophet_n and_o other_o just_a who_o live_v before_o his_o time_n but_o protestant_n be_v divide_v among_o themselves_o act._n themselves_o bu●er_o in_o c._n 27._o mat._n beza_n in_o c._n 2._o act._n some_o of_o they_o teach_v that_o by_o the_o foresay_a article_n be_v only_o understand_v that_o christ_n descend_v to_o his_o grave_n 12_o grave_n calu._n instit_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 16._o §_o 8_o 9_o 10._o 11._o 12_o other_o that_o he_o suffer_v the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a soul_n now_o do_v decide_v this_o controversy_n by_o the_o belief_n and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o that_o by_o the_o confess_a acknowledgement_n of_o our_o adversary_n who_o in_o a_o case_n so_o evident_a liberal_o confess_v the_o general_a stream_n of_o ancient_a doctor_n to_o be_v most_o adverse_a unto_o they_o in_o this_o very_a article_n of_o our_o faith_n whereas_o that_o most_o holy_a and_o ever_o renown_a cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n allege_v 14_o allege_v tom._n 1._o l_o 4._o de_fw-mi chri._n anima_fw-la c._n 14_o the_o plain_a testimony_n of_o the_o greek_a father_n as_o namely_o of_o justin_n ireneus_fw-la clemens_n origen_n eusebius_n basil_n nazianzen_n nyssen_n epiphanius_n chrysostome_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o latin_a father_n tertulian_n hippolytus_n cyprian_n hilary_n gaudentius_n prudentius_n ambrose_n hierome_n ruffinus_n austin_n leo_n fulgentius_n &c_n &c_n the_o protestant_a 176._o protestant_a ad_fw-la bellarm_n disput_fw-la part_n 1._o p._n 176._o danaeus_n in_o answer_n to_o so_o many_o most_o famous_a father_n testimony_n most_o bare_o affirm_v that_o as_o concern_v they_o they_o be_v not_o instruct_v out_o of_o god_n word_n neither_o do_v they_o confirm_v their_o opinion_n from_o it_o but_o only_o from_o their_o own_o conjecture_n etc._n etc._n thus_o suppose_v their_o catholic_n opinion_n herein_o and_o therefore_o reject_v all_o their_o judgement_n as_o confirm_v their_o faith_n only_o by_o their_o own_o conjecture_n in_o danaeus_n his_o opinion_n which_o as_o no_o less_o absurd_a in_o itself_o then_o improbable_a to_o all_o judicious_a i_o omit_v as_o a_o answer_n pure_o protestantical_a in_o like_o plain_a manner_n 773._o manner_n conc._n dur._n l_o 8._o p._n 567_o and_o see_v p._n 773._o d._n whitaker_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o like_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n urge_v by_o our_o catholic_n writer_n duraeus_n write_v thus_o that_o which_o thou_o can_v not_o do_v by_o scripture_n no_o doubt_n thou_o will_v perform_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n of_o who_o that_o i_o may_v free_o and_o brief_o answer_v thou_o what_o i_o
say_v d._n morton_n 27._o morton_n prot._n appeal_n l._n 1._o sec_fw-la 24_o p._n 27._o be_v great_o move_v with_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n of_o s._n gregory_n allow_v pray_v to_o saint_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o nevertheless_o as_o we_o find_v in_o he_o very_o rare_o any_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n &c_n &c_n so_o desire_v to_o mince_v but_o not_o dare_v to_o deny_v a_o truth_n so_o manifest_a and_o for_o such_o confess_v by_o so_o many_o of_o his_o other_o brethren_n of_o s._n gregory_n his_o defend_v invocation_n of_o saint_n but_o to_o ascend_v from_o s._n gregory_n to_o other_o more_o ancient_a doctor_n 211._o doctor_n exam._n part_n 3._o p._n 211._o chemnitius_n allege_v s._n austin_n invocate_a s._n cyprian_n and_o conclude_v say_v thereof_o these_o thing_n do_v augustin_n without_o scripture_n yield_v to_o the_o time_n and_o custom_n prudentius_n i_o grant_v say_v d._n whitaker_n 141._o whitaker_n answer_v to_o campian_n reas_n 5._o p._n 140._o 141._o as_o a_o poet_n somtim_n call_v upon_o the_o martyr_n who_o act_n he_o describe_v in_o verse_n and_o the_o superstitious_a custom_n of_o pray_v to_o saint_n have_v now_o take_v deep_a root_n in_o the_o church_n which_o as_o a_o tyrant_n hale_v sometime_o the_o holy_a father_n into_o the_o same_o error_n 5._o error_n in_o his_o rejoinder_n to_o bristol_n p_o 5._o d._n fulk_n spare_v not_o to_o speak_v thus_o plain_o i_o confess_v say_v he_o that_o ambrose_n austin_n and_o hierom_n hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o be_v lawful_a and_o that_o 443._o that_o against_o the_o rhem._n test_n in_o 2._o pet._n c._n 1._o sec_fw-la 3._o fol._n 443._o in_o nazianzene_n basil_n and_o chryostome_n be_v mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o that_o theodoret_n also_o speak_v of_o prayer_n unto_o martyr_n as_o also_o that_o leo_n ascribe_v much_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o s._n peter_n for_o he_o and_o in_o brief_a that_o many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n hold_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v pray_v for_o us._n 675._o us._n cent._n 5._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 675._o the_o centurist_n charge_n s._n chrysostom_n lyturgie_n with_o invocation_n of_o our_o b._n lady_n by_o name_n chemnitius_n 200._o chemnitius_n exam._n part_n 3._o 200._o avouch_v that_o about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n three_o hundred_o and_o seaventie_o invocation_n of_o saint_n begin_v to_o be_v bring_v into_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o the_o church_n by_o basile_n nyssen_n and_o nazianzene_n 211._o nazianzene_n ibid._n p._n 211._o and_o he_o reprehend_v for_o the_o same_o doctrine_n theodoret_n and_o hierome_n a_o french_a protestant_n answer_v to_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n gregory_n nazianzene_n write_v 258._o write_v clypeus_fw-la fidei_fw-la dial._n 8._o p._n 258._o in_o that_o thou_o cite_v s._n gregory_n pray_v to_o s._n basil_n dead_a that_o he_o will_v pray_v for_o he_o i_o will_v let_v thou_o know_v that_o gregory_n know_v not_o what_o he_o say_v when_o he_o say_v so_o belike_o this_o protestant_a thought_n that_o great_a divine_a s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n to_o have_v be_v overtake_v with_o drink_n when_o he_o pray_v so_o as_o we_o may_v just_o suspect_v this_o giddy_a french_a protestant_n be_v when_o he_o write_v thus_o but_o the_o centurie-writer_n 297._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 295._o 296._o 297._o allege_v sundry_a example_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n athanasius_n basil_n nazianzene_n ambrose_n prudentius_n epiphanius_n and_o ephrem_fw-la 382._o ephrem_fw-la apocal._n in_o c._n 14_o p._n 382._o m._n brightman_n have_v name_v athanasius_n basil_n chrysostom_n nazianzen_n ambrose_n hierom_n austin_n etc._n etc._n reprove_v they_o as_o in_o word_n condemn_v idolatry_n but_o indeed_o establish_v it_o by_o invocation_n of_o saint_n worship_v of_o relic_n and_o such_o like_a wicked_a superstition_n etc._n etc._n say_v he_o and_o whereas_o d._n bishop_n allege_v s._n chrisostom_n affirm_v the_o emperor_n constantin_n to_o have_v pray_v to_o saint_n 17._o saint_n p._n 17._o m._n wotton_n in_o his_o book_n against_o d._n bishop_n only_o answer_v by_o bare_o reject_v the_o say_v for_o suspect_a and_o forge_v yet_o 174._o yet_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o d._n bishop_n p._n 174._o d._n abbot_n acknowledge_v the_o contrary_a say_v we_o deny_v not_o chrysostom_n to_o be_v author_n of_o the_o word_n and_o then_o invent_v a_o answer_n no_o less_o false_a than_o impertinent_a to_o wit_n ibid._n wit_n ibid._n that_o chrisostom_n thereby_o mean_v the_o emperor_n arcadius_n who_o be_v emperor_n above_o sixty_o year_n after_o constantin_n but_o of_o constantin_n it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o we_o inquire_v for_o what_o other_o do_v after_o the_o time_n of_o constantin_n superstition_n more_o and_o more_o increase_v be_v nothing_o concern_v he_o but_o yet_o to_o omit_v all_o other_o answer_n this_o may_v so_o much_o concern_v any_o indifferent_a man_n that_o it_o may_v sufficient_o assure_v he_o that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v confess_o use_v in_o the_o church_n at_o least_o about_o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 398._o when_o arcadius_n reign_v yea_o this_o doctrine_n be_v so_o general_a and_o so_o certain_o believe_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n that_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v reprove_v by_o our_o young_a protestant_a writer_n for_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a protestant_a doctrine_n as_o heretical_a in_o vigilantius_n and_o aerius_n d._n fulk_n say_v 46_o say_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterf_n cath._n p._n 46_o last_v of_o all_o vigilantius_n shall_v be_v bring_v in_o who_o write_v against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n him_n hierom_n reprove_v and_o 349._o and_o in_o defen_n tract_n de_fw-fr diverse_a p._n 349._o d._n saravia_n and_o beza_n 346._o beza_n ibid._n p._n 346._o do_v both_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o aërius_n be_v likewise_o charge_v and_o condemn_v by_o the_o father_n for_o his_o then_o affirm_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v be_v not_o to_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o to_o arise_v yet_o somewhat_o high_o and_o a_o little_a to_o view_v the_o time_n near_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n beza_n speak_v of_o the_o time_n of_o cyprian_a austin_n and_o chrysostom_n acknowledge_v that_o condens_fw-la that_o prefat_n now_o test_n ad_fw-la princip_n condens_fw-la then_o prevayl_v invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a the_o centurie_n writer_n speak_v of_o 84._o of_o cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 84._o s._n cyprian_n say_v thus_o very_o cyprian_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o first_o epistle_n of_o his_o first_o book_n do_v not_o obscure_o think_v that_o martyr_n and_o saint_n depart_v do_v pray_v for_o the_o live_n 83._o live_n cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 83._o yea_o they_o further_o charge_v origen_n for_o pray_v o_o holy_a job_n pray_v for_o we_o wretch_n and_o for_o teach_v hom_n 1._o in_o ezech._n that_o angel_n be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o but_o to_o avoid_v tediousness_n in_o recite_v the_o other_o particular_a father_n of_o that_o age_n they_o in_o gross_a confess_v 83._o confess_v cent._n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o that_o there_o be_v manifest_a step_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o ancient_a age_n which_o be_v the_o three_o age_n or_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o whereas_o 19_o whereas_o l._n 5._o c._n 19_o s._n ireneus_fw-la term_v the_o b._n virgin_n marie_n eve_n advocate_n some_o caluinist_n avouch_v that_o these_o be_v the_o word_n gall._n word_n clype●●_n fidei_fw-la dial._n 8._o p._n 277_o edi●_n gall._n rather_o of_o some_o idolater_n or_o if_o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o ireneus_fw-la ireneus_fw-la have_v not_o the_o true_a understanding_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o holy_a faith_n of_o christian_a religion_n but_o if_o so_o ancient_a and_o holy_a ireneus_fw-la want_v true_a understanding_n of_o faith_n and_o christian_a religion_n we_o may_v assure_v ourselves_o that_o new_a bear_v protestant_n be_v whole_o blind_a therein_o but_o without_o all_o restraint_n of_o age_n or_o time_n 120._o time_n in_o his_o examination_n &c_n &c_n c._n 9_o p_o 120._o d._n covel_n affirm_v that_o diverse_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_a merit_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n yea_o d._n whitguift_n discourse_v of_o 473._o of_o in_o h_z be_v def._n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o carthwright_n p._n 472._o 473._o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o exception_n either_o of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n 473._o word_n ibid._n p._n 473._o almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o free_a will_n of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a now_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_v hereof_o in_o the_o ancient_a jew_n be_v so_o clear_o record_v in_o the_o book_n of_o 18._o of_o c._n 5._o
474._o acknowledge_v that_o many_o sleep_n upon_o the_o ground_n other_o go_z barefoot_z &_o wear_v sackcloth_n secret_o upon_o their_o body_n yea_o they_o mention_v 465._o mention_v cent_z 4_o col_fw-fr 465._o their_o go_v barefoot_a out_o of_o nazianzen_n and_o m._n willet_n 258._o willet_n synopsis_fw-la cont_n 6_o q_o 6._o part_n i_o p._n 258._o make_v a_o special_a tract_n against_o the_o austerity_n of_o those_o ancient_a time_n say_v the_o solitary_a life_n of_o eremite_n in_o fly_v the_o comfortable_a society_n of_o man_n and_o the_o rigorous_a manner_n in_o the_o unnatural_a chastise_v of_o their_o body_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o again_o that_o cruel_a and_o inhuman_a kind_n of_o chastise_v their_o body_n by_o fast_v and_o other_o discipline_n be_v utter_o unlawful_a and_o afterward_o he_o there_o reprove_v s_n basil_n &_o s_n gregory_n nazianzene_n for_o pluck_v down_o themselves_o by_o immoderate_a fast_n yea_o the_o austerity_n and_o sanctity_n of_o the_o ancient_a monk_n be_v such_o that_o luther_n say_v thereof_o 220._o thereof_o upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o th●_n galat._n engl_n in_o c._n 1_o vers_fw-la 30._o fol._n 220._o if_o the_o papacy_n have_v the_o same_o holiness_n and_o austerity_n of_o life_n which_o it_o have_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n hierom_n ambrose_n austin_n &_o other_o etc._n etc._n what_o can_v we_o do_v now_o against_o the_o papacy_n by_o our_o doctrine_n of_o only_a faith_n caluin_n 8._o caluin_n instit_fw-la l_o 4._o c._n 12._o s●ct_n 8._o much_o dislike_v the_o ancient_a father_n confess_v austerity_n say_v in_o which_o respect_n the_o immoderate_a austerity_n of_o the_o ancient_n father_n can_v not_o way_n be_v excuse_v which_o both_o altogether_o dissent_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o also_o be_v very_o dangerous_a and_o again_o 38_o again_o instit_fw-la l._n 3_o c_o 4._o sec_fw-la 38_o little_o do_v those_o thing_n move_v i_o which_o every_o where_n occur_v in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o old_a father_n concern_v satisfaction_n for_o i_o see_v some_o of_o they_o yea_o i_o will_v speak_v plain_o almost_o all_o who_o book_n be_v extant_a either_o herein_o to_o have_v be_v deceive_v or_o else_o to_o have_v speak_v over_o sharp_o and_o rough_o and_o to_o give_v example_n in_o some_o few_o osiander_n 99_o osiander_n cent._n 4._o p._n 99_o speak_v of_o s_o anthony_n who_o live_v in_o constantins_n time_n much_o reprehend_v he_o in_o these_o word_n when_o in_o a_o certain_a sermon_n anthony_n have_v hear_v that_o say_n of_o christ_n repeat_v if_o thou_o will_v be_v perfect_a go_v and_o sell_v all_o which_o thou_o have_v and_o give_v unto_o the_o poor_a &_o follow_v i_o this_o say_v he_o impertinent_o apply_v to_o himself_o sell_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v have_v by_o inheritance_n etc._n etc._n choose_v a_o solitary_a life_n and_o be_v about_o thirty_o five_o year_n old_a he_o go_v into_o the_o desert_n that_o there_o he_o may_v lead_v a_o more_o strict_a life_n his_o meat_n be_v only_o bread_n &_o salt_n his_o drink_n water_n his_o time_n of_o dinner_n sunsetting_a whereas_o often_o he_o fast_v two_o day_n or_o more_o together_o he_o watch_v whole_a night_n in_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n his_o garment_n inward_o be_v haircloth_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o say_v osiander_n the_o life_n of_o antony_n want_v not_o much_o superstition_n and_o again_o 103._o again_o ibid._n p._n 103._o that_o antony_n be_v the_o first_o beginner_n of_o monastical_a life_n in_o in_o egypt_n that_o he_o punish_v his_o body_n over_o much_o &_o such_o like_a they_o be_v to_o be_v number_v among_o the_o stubble_n whereof_o paul_n speak_v in_o like_a sort_n say_v d._n beard_n 375._o beard_n retrartive_a from_o rom._n relig._n p._n 375._o the_o first_o hermit_n be_v one_o antony_n who_o live_v three_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n who_o teach_v other_o that_o state_n of_o life_n and_o as_o concern_v s._n anton.'s_n house_n or_o celle_n osiander_n 100_o osiander_n cent._n 4._o p._n 100_o likewise_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v seat_v upon_o a_o high_a mountain_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o the_o square_a thereof_o be_v no_o large_a than_o a_o man_n may_v lay_v himself_o down_o to_o sleep_v and_o as_o for_o his_o bed_n he_o use_v a_o mat_n spread_v upon_o the_o ground_n and_o often_o the_o ground_n itself_o like_a instance_n may_v be_v give_v in_o s._n symeon_n who_o great_a austerity_n report_v by_o theodoret_n the_o protestant_a junius_n 614._o junius_n animaduersiones_n ad_fw-la controversiam_fw-la 3._o de_fw-la membris_fw-la eccl._n p._n 611._o 612._o 613._o 614._o reprehend_v term_v he_o melancholy_a ignorant_a and_o superstitious_a symeon_n and_o condemn_v his_o miraculous_a fast_n of_o forty_o day_n for_o counterfeit_a &c_n &c_n his_o daily_a continue_a prayer_n at_o the_o pillar_n for_o battalogie_n etc._n etc._n his_o miracle_n for_o magical_a etc._n etc._n and_o his_o prophesy_v as_o do_v by_o human_a judgement_n or_o suggestion_n from_o the_o devil_n what_o now_o can_v lucian_n or_o porphyry_n utter_v more_o profane_o and_o yet_o the_o like_a be_v affirm_v of_o this_o holy_a symeon_n by_o hospinian_n 24._o hospinian_n de_fw-fr monach_n f._n 24._o but_o now_o to_o come_v to_o the_o vow_a chastity_n of_o monk_n &_o nun_n of_o those_o ancient_a time_n whereas_o it_o be_v decree_v in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n can._n 15._o that_o if_o any_o virgin_n or_o monk_n shall_v dedicate_v themselves_o to_o god_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o they_o to_o marry_v this_o so_o famous_a a_o council_n be_v reprehend_v for_o this_o very_a decree_n by_o d._n whitaker_n 80._o whitaker_n cont._n camp_n rat_n 4_o p._n 62._o osiand_n cent._n 5._o l._n 32_o c._n 13_o p._n 356._o 359._o justus_n molitor_n de_fw-fr eccl._n milit._n p._n 80._o osiander_n &_o justus_n molitor_n the_o centurie-writer_n 140._o centurie-writer_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 467._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 706._o 483._o 847._o 301._o and_o cent._n 3_o col_fw-fr 140._o acknowledge_v that_o ruffian_n l._n 2._o c._n 9_o declare_v that_o basil_n build_v monastery_n in_o the_o city_n of_o pontus_n and_o ordain_v that_o virgin_n shall_v vow_v chastity_n and_o concern_v the_o virgin_n of_o europe_n they_o confess_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o ambrose_n tell_v that_o the_o vow_n of_o virginity_n be_v common_a with_o that_o sex_n yea_o such_o be_v the_o sanctity_n of_o the_o religious_a of_o those_o time_n that_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o they_o shine_v with_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n the_o centurist_n 493._o centurist_n cent_z 4●ol_n ●ol_z 493._o and_o see_v col_fw-fr 1445._o &_o 493._o say_v there_o be_v among_o the_o monk_n and_o ermites_n in_o this_o four_o age_n man_n who_o be_v famous_a with_o the_o gift_n of_o miracle_n as_o antony_n and_o his_o disciple_n macharius_fw-la isidorus_n heraclides_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o such_o be_v the_o holy_a conceit_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n concern_v the_o perfection_n of_o monastical_a life_n that_o they_o doubt_v not_o to_o condemn_v vigilantius_n and_o other_o of_o error_n for_o impugn_v the_o same_o for_o thus_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o crispinus_n 132._o crispinus_n of_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o church_n ep_v 131._o 132._o write_v s._n hierom_n against_o vigilantius_n in_o that_o thou_o affirme_v those_o to_o do_v better_a who_o use_v their_o good_n and_o by_o little_a &_o little_o distribute_v the_o fruit_n of_o their_o possession_n to_o the_o poor_a than_o those_o who_o sell_v their_o possession_n give_v all_o at_o once_o the_o answer_n shall_v be_v give_v not_o from_o i_o but_o from_o our_o lord_n if_o thou_o will_v be_v perfect_a go_v and_o sell_v all_o thing_n which_o thou_o have_v and_o give_v to_o the_o poor_a &_o come_v follow_v i_o he_o speak_v to_o he_o who_o will_v be_v perfect_a etc._n etc._n that_o degree_n which_o thou_o praise_v be_v the_o second_o and_o three_o which_o also_o we_o allow_v whilst_o we_o know_v the_o first_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o second_o and_o three_o neither_o be_v monk_n to_o be_v terrify_v by_o thou_o from_o their_o devotion_n with_o they_o viperous_a tongue_n and_o cruel_a bite_n of_o who_o thou_o argue_v and_o say_v if_o all_o shall_v shut_v themselves_o up_o and_o be_v in_o the_o desert_n who_o shall_v frequent_v the_o church_n these_o premise_n suppose_v and_o observe_v it_o be_v no_o marvel_n though_o m._n carthwright_n 502._o carthwright_n in_o his_o 2._o reply_n part_n 1._o p._n 502._o affirm_v that_o monk_n be_v antichristian_a notwithstanding_o their_o anciencie_n and_o that_o 510._o that_o ibid._n p._n 510._o hieroms_n monk_n hermit_n and_o anchoret_n be_v at_o that_o time_n very_o gross_a as_o also_o though_o 16._o though_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 13._o sec_fw-la 16._o caluin_n say_v i_o do_v not_o dissemble_v that_o in_o that_o ancient_a form_n of_o monachisme_n which_o augustin_n commend_v there_o be_v
father_n in_o particular_a pronounce_v of_o they_o in_o general_a thus_o ecclesiae_fw-la thus_o in_o col._n conuival_n c._n de_fw-fr patribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la see_v you_o what_o darkness_n there_o be_v in_o the_o father_n writing_n concern_v faith_n for_o when_o that_o article_n of_o the_o justification_n of_o man_n be_v cover_v with_o darkness_n it_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v that_o great_a error_n he_o avoid_v bullinger_n do_v 270._o do_v in_o apoc._n serm._n 87._o fol._n 270._o acknowledge_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n satisfaction_n and_o justification_n of_o work_n do_v incontinent_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n lie_v their_o first_o foundation_n caluin_n affirm_v in_o general_a that_o 2._o that_o inst_z l._n 3._o c._n 25._o §._o 2._o the_o ancient_a writer_n of_o the_o church_n use_v every_a where_o the_o word_n merit_n give_v occasion_n of_o error_n to_o posterity_n thereby_o add_v last_o that_o d._n whiteguift_n 473._o whiteguift_n in_o his_o def._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o carthw_o p._n 472._o 473._o treat_v of_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o all_o other_o exception_n either_o of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o learned_a writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n of_o merit_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o same_o be_v likewise_o teach_v by_o 299._o by_o de_fw-fr eccl._n cont_n bellar._n p._n 299._o d._n whitaker_n now_o concern_v the_o ancient_a jew_n the_o book_n of_o 4.10_o of_o c._n 12_o 9_o &_o 4.10_o toby_n and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la 33._o ecclesiasticus_fw-la c._n 3._o 33._o be_v so_o pregnant_a for_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n that_o sundry_a protestant_n say_v thereof_o 76._o thereof_o minist_n of_o lincoln_n diocese_n in_o their_o abridgement_n p._n 76._o the_o two_o place_n of_o toby_n and_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la tend_v dangerous_o to_o the_o justify_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o almsdeed_n and_o other_o write_v against_o the_o book_n of_o homily_n say_v 164._o say_v silenced_a minister_n in_o the_o 2._o part_v of_o def._n p._n 164._o the_o book_n of_o homily_n whereto_o we_o be_v require_v to_o subscribe_v etc._n etc._n expoundes_o toby_n say_v that_o alm_n be_v profitable_a to_o purge_v the_o soul_n from_o the_o spot_n of_o sin_n allege_v these_o word_n of_o toby_n 4.10_o and_o 12.19_o etc._n etc._n and_o out_o of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la etc._n etc._n yea_o they_o further_o say_v this_o 166._o this_o ib._n p._n 166._o place_n of_o toby_n be_v it_o canonical_a etc._n etc._n be_v very_o pregnant_a for_o the_o merit_n of_o work_n and_o as_o strong_a for_o it_o as_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n buxdorfius_n also_o write_v of_o the_o rabbin_n that_o 23._o that_o synagog_n judaica_n p._n 23._o they_o persuade_v themselves_o that_o they_o may_v satisfy_v for_o their_o sin_n by_o do_v penance_n upon_o their_o skin_n and_o that_o they_o may_v easy_o merit_v eternal_a life_n by_o keep_v of_o the_o commandment_n and_o good_a work_n and_o the_o same_o also_o be_v acknowledge_v in_o they_o by_o 50._o by_o pharisaisme_n p._n 13._o 50._o m._n hal._n i_o may_v then_o conclude_v that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v our_o firm_a patron_n for_o our_o catholic_n doctrine_n concern_v goodwork_n confess_o teach_n first_o that_o goodwork_n do_v true_o justify_v second_o merit_v grace_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n and_o eternal_a glory_n in_o the_o next_o for_o which_o very_a doctrine_n the_o father_n acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n be_v s._n gregory_n chrysostom_n augustin_n prosper_n ambrose_n hierom_n nyssene_n nazianzene_n hilary_n ephrem_n cyprian_n origen_n tertulian_n theophilus_n lactantius_n justin_n clemens_n alex._n ireneus_fw-la hermes_n ignatius_n and_o the_o ancient_a believe_v jew_n the_o protestant_a writer_n produce_v and_o charge_v the_o foresaid_a father_n be_v luther_n the_o centurist_n brentius_n the_o divine_n of_o wittenberg_n osiander_n caluin_n melancthon_n chemnitius_n winkilmamus_fw-la schultetus_fw-la bullinger_n buxdorfeus_n wotton_n whitaker_n humphrey_n covel_n and_o whiteguift_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o protestant_n that_o the_o ceremony_n now_o use_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o minister_a of_o service_n or_o sacrifice_n as_o also_o of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v former_o use_v by_o the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chap._n xxii_o have_v thus_o pass_v through_o so_o many_o particular_a controversy_n of_o great_a weight_n and_o find_v in_o all_o of_o they_o a_o perfect_a agreement_n and_o sweet_a harmony_n between_o the_o ancient_a most_o holy_a and_o primitive_a church_n and_o the_o present_a roman_n catholic_n church_n and_o this_o by_o no_o weak_a proof_n or_o evidence_n than_o the_o free_a grant_n confession_n and_o acknowledgement_n of_o our_o swear_a and_o profess_a 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reject_v they_o as_o most_o unworthy_a 350._o unworthy_a ibid._n
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c._n 3.36_o in_o his_o gospel_n err_v in_o make_v arphaxad_v the_o father_n of_o cainan_n and_o cainan_n of_o sale_n whereas_o in_o the_o book_n of_o genesis_n arphaxad_o be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v the_o father_n of_o sale_n for_o if_o s._n luke_n do_v not_o err_v why_o do_v they_o notwithstanding_o that_o all_o copy_n both_o latin_a and_o greek_a in_o this_o agree_v thrust_v out_o of_o the_o text_n these_o word_n who_o be_v of_o cainan_n and_o so_o make_v s._n luke_n to_o say_v that_o arphaxad_o be_v the_o father_n of_o sale_n and_o whereas_o christ_n say_v luke_n 6.40_o the_o disciple_n be_v not_o above_o his_o master_n caluin_n affirm_v 6.40_o affirm_v harm_n in_o luc._n 6.40_o that_o luke_n in_o the_o 6._o chapter_n relate_v this_o sentence_n without_o connexion_n utter_v among_o other_o speech_n as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o sudden_a concern_v some_o part_n of_o s._n john_n gospel_n beza_n say_v joan._n say_v ad_fw-la c._n 8._o joan._n as_o concern_v myself_o i_o do_v not_o 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