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A57816 An answer to a scandalous paper of T. Hicks, term'd A rebuke to T.R. &c. with a reassumption our former complaint and charge against T. Hicks / by a lover of truth, Thomas Rudyard. Rudyard, Thomas, d. 1692. 1674 (1674) Wing R2176; ESTC R29339 14,120 48

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him that W. K. and J. I. in Principles although now Confederates differ more then a Real Christian and a Quaker This accounts T. H. so great a Crime that it 's the filling up of my Measure I suppose he means of Iniquity And tells me for Answer My Dictate is notoriously false and then gives in his Reason For sayes T. H. they differ not in these Essential Points ●● Christianity as that Jesus Christ is a distinct Person without us that the H●ly Scriptures are the Rule of Faith and Practice unto Christians and of the Resurrection of the dead Body and the Life to come they are in Unity in these wherein the discriminating Difference between a Christian and a Quaker lyes I reply Thus we have T. H's Definition of Essential Principles or as his Words will bear only Essential for my Charge was That W. K. J. I. differed more in Principles then a Real Christian and Quaker This he tells me is notoriously false and offers for Reason thereof they agree in those and therefore if there be more Principles Essential then these afore nam'd they may differ in them and so my Dictate not notoriously false though in these they agree but there are many more Principles then these afore named wherein they may differ so my Dictate not notoriously false for all T. H. his Reason that in these they agree I need not search far for Proof but the Anabaptists several Sistems of Faith wherein they have many more pretended Essential Articles of Faith then these afore-named will evidence their far greater Number of Principles and their Difference therein particularly about the Death of Christ one affirming him an Universal Sacrifice for all Mankind the other Denying it c. one that he came to save All the other but to save a Few but as to the before mention'd particular Essential Principles as T. H. terms them they have been often answered by our Friends and his Abuses often by them refelled Sect. VIII He then quarrels against my Enquiry what Sort of Christian the Quaker was not And wholy waving my prior Expostulation he most abusively answereth me But I must tell him that the Reason for my Enquiry justifies my Question and returns his Inquisition c. upon himself as I may hereafter shew My Just Complaint and Enquiry in pag. 13. was thus But suppose we are no Christians in your sense or of your Dipping are we therefore none But suppose none at all according to your present Sentiments of us but Jews profest Turks or Heathens as you would have us shall not your Brother answer for his Forgeries Lyes and Slanders It is your Belief that an Heretick deserveth no Law no Justice no Equity from or against men of your Cast ye should do well to explain for I assure you it smelleth of your Predecessors To this T. Hicks returns not a Word in Answer but standeth as a condemned Mute being loath to come to a fair Tryal whether Innocent or Guilty But I further argued That if no Argument will induce you to do us that common Right that equal Justice that a Heathen would not deny us But you still divert our Charge and interpose such Discourse as may tire the Auditory and cover your Infamous Brother and consequently his Abettors If instead of Hearing our Charge and Answering our reasonable Demands you would prove Us NO Christians and bid us take that for Answer I propose as necessary in order therio that you tell us what sort of Christian the Quaker is not explain your selves to the World What and Who is a True Christian These were the Grounds and Reasons of my Question the Particulars whereof follow after and I presume not impertinent to our present Business and no more then the Nature of the Contest the Anabaptist Mannagement thereof directly call'd for from our hands But how correspondent his Answer is to my Question will be evident by due Comparison of them together But inasmuch as his is general and not answering my particular queries to know a True and False a Real or Counterfit Christian I shall first in sert his Confession being but an evasive Response to my particular Question and then again give him mine as really it is for which I yet count him my Debtor for a more distinct Answer but first take his Definition of a Christian Said T. Hicks For the Christian I do hereby acquaint him that I do account such by whatever Name they may be distinguished amongst men who as Disciples of Christ being redeem'd by his Blood profess themselves oblieged in order to their Eternal Salvation to learn and believe the Doctrine Obey the Precepts revealed in the Scriptures and follow the holy Life of the Christ of God that is that Person who only is and is known by that Name and is call'd the Christ of God by God the Father by himself by his Holy Inspired Penmen and Apostles by men of all Nations as being the only Person accompted and ordained by God to be the Lord Master and Saviour of men who was the Seed of Abraham David born of the Virgin Mary at Bethlehem crucified to Death at Jerusalem rose from the Dead the third Day and was afterward seen of the Apostles and many hundred of his Disciples with whom he personally talked and conversed and before whose Eyes he ascended into the Heavens where he liveth to make Intercession and governeth as Lord and Head over all and whence he shall come to judge the World in Righteousness with an Eternal Judgment and render to every man according to his Works It seems this is T. Hicks's Christian Now I have four things to remark 1. He hath calculated his Confession to the Socinian Creed in that he leaveth out Christ's Divinity as any part or Article of his Faith either because he is a Socinian or to do them a good Turn at this juncture for their Hearty Endeavours for his Cause This very Article once distinguisht Hereticks from Orthodox See Eusebius But T. Hicks is not of that mind 2. He hath not distinguisht about Precepts between Shadowy and Substantial Temporary and Eternal Legal and Gospel 3. That He is NOT this Christian because He doth Not obey all those Precepts He doth Not as he would be done by He walks Not by the Rule of the New Creature He doth More then an Eye for an Eye He washeth Not Feet anointeth Not with Oyl sings Not Psalms He confesseth and holds That no man can keep those Precepts 4. If this be a true Christian in Tho. Hicks's Account the Quaker must needs be a Christian since he ever held and maintained on Occasion That Christ came of Abraham's Seed and more to wit that he is God over all that Redemption is in his Blood that he dyed rose and ascended into Heaven is there at God's right Hand the Mediator and Intercessor that the Scripture contains Godly Precepts that ought to be believed ●beyed yea that the