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A87879 An answer to the Marques of Worcester's last paper; to the late King. Representing in their true posture, and discussing briefly, the main controversies between the English and the Romish Church. Together with some considerations, upon Dr Bayly's parenthetical interlocution; relating to the Churches power in deciding controversies. To these is annext, Smectymnuo-Mastix : or, short animadversions upon Smectymnuus in the point of lyturgie. / By Hamon L'Estrange, Esqr. L'Estrange, Hamon, 1605-1660. 1651 (1651) Wing L1187; Wing L1191; Thomason E1218_2; ESTC R202717 68,906 120

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