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A20471 A disswasiue from poperie, containing twelve effectual reasons by vvhich every Papist, not wilfully blinded, may be brought to the truth, and euery Protestant confirmed in the same: written by Francis Dillingham Master of Arts, and fellow of Christs Colledge in Cambridge, necessarie for all men in these times. Dillingham, Francis, d. 1625. 1599 (1599) STC 6883; ESTC S111897 57,357 173

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and embrace it The first propertie Truth hath this propertie that it is simple and needeth not many interpretations and expositions so saith Euripides 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But Poperie to defende it selfe vseth many expositions Vide rever Bilson de Sacram and yet knoweth not what to hold For the proofe of this consider their interpretatiōs of the first word in this short sentence this is my bodie d contra Ploretum lib. 4. Gerson affirmeth that it signifieth the substance of bread and e contra Diabolic sophist Steuen Gardiner sometimes thought so also notwithstanding afterward he changed his minde and came to Individuum vagum as if Christ had saide This what it is I cannot tell but it must needes be somewhat is my bodie in 4. of Sen● dist 13. Occam and other say the pronoune this must be referred to the bodie of Christ as if our Sauiour had saide This my bodie is my bodie de Conse dist 2. Their glosse resolueth this question on this manner Solet quaeri quid demonstretur per pronomen Hoc It is a common question what is meant by the pronoune This. To this demand I say nothing is meant but it is there put materially without any signification at all thus they turned and tossed the words of Christ till they brought all that the Lord said at his last supper to plaine nothing Tomo 2. Duraeus and Bellarmine teach that by the word this is meant the whole substance which Christ had in his hand I demande then what this substance was whether it was bread or the body of Christ if bread then there was a figure if the body of Christ then there must be transubstantiation before these wordes were pronounced which plainely fighteth with their fancies This propertie being cleerely auouched if it please thee to consider gentle reader the Caluenists expositions as they call them thou shalt find them to be all one namely this signifieth or this is a signe of my body let Carolostadius and the Lutherans answer for themselues The second propertie The second propertie of truth is that it blusheth to be hid Lib. aduersus Valen●● so saith Tertullian Nihil veritas erube scit nisi solummodo abscondi that is truth is ashamed of nothing but of concealing Math. 10.27 and our Sauiour Christ saith Whatsoeuer I shew you preach on the house toppes but they hid their traditions from the people as Bellarmine himselfe confesseth which argueth that they were not truth I will not here confute his answer to the saying of our Sauiour Christ because I shall deale with it in the Motiue of Haeresies If they retort this propertie against vs because our Church was as they call it occulta that is hid for many yeres I first answer that they must distinguish betwixt the time of peace and persecution Rom. 12. truth in persecution may be driuen into the wildernesse but in peace who knoweth not but that it ought plainely to be taught Secondly I answer that the Papists haue alwaies felt our Church as testifieth Reinerus a popish Inquisitour Catolog test veri so I passe to the 3. propertie of truth The third propertie The third propertie of truth is that it is magna praevalet it is great and preuaileth reade the third of Esdras for the confirmation of this where trueth is prooued stronger then wine and women and indeede Actes the fift and 39. If it be of God it cannot be destroied this declareth then most apparantly that it could not proceede but of some diuine power and super-naturall assistance that amidst the contradictions and oppositions of so many adversaries among the whippes swordes and tortures of so bloodie and cruell Caniballs as the Papists are our poore simple and feeble congregation should peirce through and augment it selfe strongly especially if we consider the outward means of this increase where there was nothing to allure or contēt mans nature nothing gorgeous nothing delectable nothing to please or entertaine sensualitie by which is answered their cauil that trueth resteth with them because of their great multitudes for had they not had murthers Revel 9.21 sorceries fornication and thefts which are as I will prooue God willing foure pillars of papistrie they had neuer come to that primarie yea who knoweth not that with Cyrus they powre forth Gold to their slauish sect by heaps and waight and not by number and account The fourth property The fourth propertie of trueth is to be steadfast and perpetually like it selfe for which cause in the Hebrew tongue it is called Emeth of the roote which signifieth stabilitie so doe the Latines call that verum which is immutabile per omnia sibi simile immutable and like it selfe euery way but in popery there is no steadfastnesse is not prima secunda iustificatio the first and second iustification a new deuise Censura collon Ex consilio Tridenti can any Papist resolue the certenty of Peters sitting at Roome read Bellarmine here he disagreeth from Onuphrius and Onuphrius from the rest of the Papists in this point which is the foundation of Poperie is the greatest point of Papistrie so vncertaine that they knowe not what to hold Doth not Allen confesse in his booke of purgatorie that there is no text brought to prooue the same which might not be otherwise applyed Nay haue not the Rhemists and Bellarmine himselfe left schoole conceipts and brought in their owne deuises witnesse their owne writing Tell me thou learned Catholike who succeeded Peter Tertullian affirmeth that Petrus Clementem Episcopum Romanorum ordinauit Lib. de praes that Peter ordained Clemēt Bishop of Rome Lib. 3. Ireneus placeth next to Peter Linus Ancletus and then Clement Read Hierom and Augustine and thou shalt finde greater diuersitie Answere me papist howe or with what kinde of worship Images are to be honoured Bellarmine himselfe is not assured of this point as thou maiest read in his tractate of Images Lastly because I cannot be long answere me howe Saints heare our prayers if thou canst Bellarmine himselfe must needes yeeld to thee for he is ignorant of that point therefore answereth vncertainties as he doeth in the defense of purgatorie beeing pressed with Theophilactes authority now making it a part of the hande of God which is a place of all iust mens soules and in the next wordes a part of hel Thus Christian reader like wandering trauellers out of the way the learnedst papists knowe not where to rest yea like drunkards they stagger to and fro but thankes be to God it is not so with the Caluinists who coyne no new distinctions for truth is alwaies the same The 5. propertie The 5. propertie of truth is that it is subiect to persecution Obsequium amicos veritas odium parit Friends are the children of flatterie hatred is begotten by harmelesse truth Peruse the whole booke of God nay all histories and thou shalt finde