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we_o have_v force_n and_o virtue_n through_o our_o whole_a life_n and_o thereby_o be_v we_o assure_v that_o this_o promise_n of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o remit_v of_o the_o same_o be_v most_o certain_a and_o true_a and_o belong_v to_o our_o whole_a life_n and_o to_o every_o sin_n that_o we_o commit_v now_o this_o forgiveness_n say_v the_o papist_n must_v be_v apply_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n they_o shall_v prove_v that_o for_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n their_o credit_n be_v not_o so_o good_a that_o we_o dare_v trust_v they_o and_o the_o less_o we_o trust_v they_o in_o this_o matter_n because_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o god_n have_v give_v unto_o we_o other_o mean_n to_o apply_v his_o mercy_n unto_o we_o namely_o his_o word_n for_o apply_v whereof_o unto_o our_o conscience_n he_o have_v appoint_v his_o ministry_n in_o his_o church_n yea_o he_o have_v give_v his_o word_n to_o be_v read_v and_o know_v of_o every_o body_n then_o also_o have_v he_o give_v we_o sacrament_n to_o confirm_v we_o in_o this_o word_n and_o to_o make_v we_o more_o confident_o to_o believe_v it_o and_o more_o faithful_o to_o receive_v it_o these_o therefore_o be_v the_o mean_n whereby_o our_o faith_n be_v nourish_v and_o make_v more_o bold_a and_o strong_a to_o apply_v to_o our_o humble_a heart_n those_o comfortable_a promise_n of_o god_n good_a grace_n which_o in_o the_o word_n be_v offer_v and_o by_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v seal_v up_o in_o our_o conscience_n now_o other_o sacrament_n we_o know_v not_o and_o namely_o this_o of_o penance_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o necessary_a consequence_n in_o this_o argument_n these_o word_n be_v speak_v of_o remission_n of_o sin_n after_o baptism_n therefore_o there_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n and_o that_o shall_v be_v prove_v and_o therefore_o to_o grant_v he_o that_o which_o he_o so_o strive_v for_o will_v do_v he_o no_o good_a after_o this_o one_o place_n that_o bellarmine_n have_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n he_o come_v to_o the_o father_n 10._o de_fw-fr paenit_fw-la li._n 1._o cap._n 10._o who_o because_o they_o afford_v he_o no_o plain_a proof_n he_o indevour_v to_o wring_v something_o from_o they_o by_o indirect_a mean_n the_o proof_n therefore_o that_o he_o have_v from_o they_o as_o himself_o profess_v be_v either_o because_o that_o when_o they_o reckon_v up_o the_o true_a sacrament_n they_o often_o make_v mention_n of_o repentance_n also_o or_o else_o they_o compare_v it_o with_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n show_v that_o it_o be_v god_n that_o work_v in_o they_o both_o have_v it_o not_o be_v better_a to_o yield_v unto_o the_o truth_n then_o thus_o before_o he_o prove_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o the_o
to_o lay_v open_a and_o amplify_v our_o own_o corrupt_a nature_n and_o to_o confess_v the_o power_n and_o force_v of_o original_a sin_n in_o we_o be_v these_o partly_o our_o own_o woeful_a experience_n whereby_o if_o we_o have_v any_o true_a feel_n of_o our_o frail_a estate_n or_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o our_o unwillingnes_n to_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o our_o ready_a inclination_n to_o that_o which_o be_v evil_a we_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o the_o law_n of_o our_o flesh_n 7.23_o rom._n 7.23_o be_v always_o rebellious_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o be_v in_o we_o and_o that_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v such_o a_o froward_a enemy_n to_o god_n 8.7_o rom._n 8.7_o as_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n neither_o indeed_o can_v be_v partly_o also_o the_o manifold_a and_o manifest_a testimony_n out_o of_o god_n word_n which_o do_v plain_o prove_v that_o this_o original_a sin_n have_v so_o corrupt_v our_o whole_a nature_n that_o it_o can_v bring_v forth_o nothing_o that_o be_v good_a or_o godly_a 6.5_o gen._n 6.5_o such_o be_v that_o all_o the_o imagination_n of_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v only_o evil_a always_o and_o that_o also_o 8.21_o gen._n 8.21_o the_o imagination_n of_o man_n heart_n be_v evil_a from_o his_o youth_n whereby_o we_o must_v needs_o confess_v and_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v true_a that_o we_o be_v not_o sufficient_a of_o ourselves_o to_o think_v any_o thing_n as_o of_o ourselves_o 3.5_o 2._o cor._n 3.5_o in_o those_o thing_n that_o belong_v unto_o true_a godliness_n and_o why_o because_o that_o by_o one_o man_n sin_n enter_v into_o the_o world_n 5.12.18_o rom._n 5.12.18_o and_o by_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o the_o fault_n come_v on_o all_o man_n to_o condemnation_n in_o this_o respect_n the_o apostle_n call_v such_o as_o be_v not_o regenerate_v enemy_n to_o god_n the_o child_n of_o wrath_n by_o nature_n vessel_n of_o dishonour_n and_o by_o such_o like_a name_n whereby_o he_o show_v plain_o what_o we_o shall_v judge_v or_o how_o we_o shall_v esteem_v of_o the_o strength_n and_o force_n of_o original_a sin_n in_o they_o that_o be_v not_o regenerate_v namely_o that_o no_o good_a at_o all_o can_v come_v from_o they_o in_o thought_n word_n or_o deed_n which_o doctrine_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v in_o no_o wise_n hear_v of_o but_o of_o that_o i_o must_v speak_v in_o another_o place_n but_o even_o we_o that_o have_v receive_v the_o first_o fruit_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o who_o god_n have_v deliver_v from_o the_o condemnation_n of_o that_o common_a corruption_n we_o i_o say_v do_v find_v that_o if_o sin_n reign_v not_o over_o we_o yet_o it_o dwell_v in_o us._n whereby_o we_o be_v many_o time_n force_v 1â—_n rom._n 7_o 1â—_n to_o do_v that_o evil_a thing_n that_o we_o will_v not_o and_o to_o leave_v undoone_v that_o good_a that_o we_o will_v do_v we_o feel_v that_o there_o be_v 2d_o 2d_o a_o law_n in_o our_o member_n rebel_a against_o the_o law_n of_o our_o mind_n and_o lead_v we_o captive_a to_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o our_o member_n insomuch_o as_o we_o be_v force_v not_o only_o to_o cry_v out_o with_o the_o prophet_n david_n 19.12_o psal_n 19.12_o who_o can_v understand_v his_o fault_n cleanse_v i_o from_o secret_a fault_n but_o also_o continual_o to_o pray_v as_o christ_n will_v we_o forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n 12.1_o heb._n 12.1_o for_o sin_n hang_v so_o fast_o on_o we_o that_o even_o when_o we_o will_v do_v good_a 2d_o rom._n 7_o 2d_o then_o evil_a be_v present_a with_o us._n and_o therefore_o well_o may_v our_o spirit_n strive_v that_o the_o flesh_n prevail_v not_o and_o the_o new_a man_n wax_v every_o day_n strong_a against_o the_o old_a man_n yet_o so_o long_o as_o we_o carry_v about_o with_o we_o this_o body_n subject_a to_o corruption_n satan_n will_v not_o leave_v buffet_n we_o sin_n will_v not_o cease_v to_o assault_v us._n but_o as_o a_o froward_a and_o cruel_a enemy_n even_o then_o when_o it_o be_v almost_o quite_o subdue_v and_o at_o the_o last_o cast_v yet_o will_v it_o stir_v even_o then_o i_o say_v will_v it_o strive_v to_o hurt_v us._n and_o this_o our_o deadly_a enemy_n be_v breed_v and_o bear_v with_o we_o we_o carry_v he_o always_o about_o us._n so_o long_o as_o we_o live_v we_o can_v shake_v he_o off_o which_o make_v the_o apostle_n saint_n paul_n so_o weary_a of_o this_o wicked_a world_n that_o he_o desire_v to_o be_v dissolve_v and_o to_o be_v with_o christ_n 1.23_o philip._n 1.23_o and_o no_o marvel_n for_o what_o can_v a_o spiritual_a mind_a man_n see_v here_o that_o may_v make_v he_o desire_v to_o live_v in_o this_o flesh_n in_o his_o mind_n there_o be_v such_o ignorance_n of_o heavenly_a thing_n as_o that_o although_o he_o be_v continual_o teach_v yet_o he_o need_v continual_o to_o pray_v o_o teach_v i_o thy_o statute_n 119.12_o psal_n 119.12_o and_o to_o ask_v that_o the_o eye_n of_o his_o understanding_n may_v be_v lighten_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n and_o revelation_n 1.9_o ep._n 1.17_o 18_o philip._n 1.9_o by_o the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n more_o and_o more_o in_o all_o wisdom_n and_o spiritual_a understanding_n for_o the_o perfection_n of_o knowledge_n that_o here_o we_o can_v attain_v unto_o 1.9_o coloss_n 1.9_o be_v every_o day_n to_o learn_v and_o when_o we_o know_v most_o concern_v heavenly_a thing_n yet_o our_o knowledge_n be_v unperfect_a yea_o that_o which_o we_o know_v not_o be_v much_o more_o than_o that_o we_o do_v know_v then_o if_o he_o consider_v of_o his_o own_o heart_n he_o shall_v find_v the_o affection_n thereof_o so_o rebellious_a against_o the_o spirit_n so_o run_v headlong_o unto_o worldly_a and_o wicked_a lust_n that_o it_o will_v force_v he_o for_o to_o pray_v 86.11_o psal_n 86.11_o knit_v my_o heart_n unto_o thou_o that_o i_o may_v fear_v thy_o name_n 5.8_o psal_n 5.8_o lead_v i_o in_o the_o way_n of_o thy_o righteousness_n make_v thy_o way_n plain_a before_o my_o face_n yea_o he_o will_v be_v drive_v to_o confess_v that_o no_o man_n can_v come_v unto_o christ_n to_o serve_v he_o 6.44_o joh._n 6.44_o unless_o the_o father_n draw_v he_o so_o that_o even_o in_o respect_n of_o those_o excellent_a thing_n that_o man_n do_v seem_v to_o have_v he_o may_v true_o say_v 7.18_o rom._n 7.18_o i_o know_v that_o in_o i_o that_o be_v in_o my_o flesh_n there_o dwell_v no_o good_a thing_n for_o his_o mind_n be_v darken_v that_o it_o can_v not_o know_v his_o heart_n be_v clog_v that_o it_o will_v not_o obey_v sincere_o and_o ready_o as_o it_o ought_v god_n holy_a will_n thus_o than_o it_o appear_v not_o only_o that_o all_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o unclean_a seed_n be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v in_o original_a sin_n 8.23_o rom._n 7.24_o rom._n 8.23_o but_o also_o that_o the_o same_o do_v make_v great_a trouble_n even_o to_o the_o godly_a yea_o it_o make_v they_o to_o sigh_v for_o their_o deliverance_n from_o this_o their_o body_n which_o by_o reason_n of_o sin_n be_v so_o subject_a to_o death_n n_o concupiscence_n be_v sâ—_n n_o and_o now_o for_o this_o concupiscence_n by_o mean_n whereof_o we_o be_v thus_o entice_v unto_o sin_n and_o also_o hinder_v from_o sincere_a obedience_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v in_o no_o wise_n yield_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v sin_n in_o the_o regenerate_a unless_o it_o also_o draw_v consent_n of_o reason_n to_o yield_v unto_o it_o for_o this_o they_o all_o teach_v and_o yet_o saint_n paul_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n often_o call_v it_o sin_n as_o m._n bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v 10._o de_fw-fr amiss_a gratiae_fw-la lib._n 5._o cap._n 10._o yea_o and_o that_o in_o the_o regenerate_a but_o it_o be_v so_o call_v say_v he_o unproper_o not_o because_o it_o be_v sin_n but_o because_o it_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o sin_n and_o come_v also_o of_o sin_n but_o how_o do_v he_o prove_v that_o out_o of_o any_o thing_n that_o saint_n paul_n have_v say_v in_o those_o place_n first_o because_o saint_n paul_n say_v let_v not_o sin_n reign_v 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argument_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o christ_n love_n to_o the_o church_n his_o spouse_n say_v he_o give_v himself_o for_o it_o that_o he_o may_v sanctify_v it_o and_o cleanse_v it_o 27_o ephe._n 5.25_o 26_o 27_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n in_o the_o word_n that_o he_o may_v make_v it_o unto_o himself_o a_o grorious_z church_n not_o have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n etc._n etc._n now_o if_o i_o shall_v expound_v this_o place_n 47._o ezec._n 47._o by_o the_o 47._o chapter_n of_o ezechiel_n unto_o the_o which_o the_o apostle_n may_v very_o well_o seem_v to_o allude_v i_o know_v this_o exposition_n will_v be_v think_v new_a and_o singular_a but_o yet_o as_o this_o exposition_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o against_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n so_o by_o saint_n jeroms_n interpretation_n of_o that_o place_n of_o ezechiel_n it_o seem_v to_o be_v warrant_v for_o by_o the_o water_n mention_v in_o that_o place_n he_o understand_v that_o which_o our_o saviour_n christ_n teach_v as_o also_o both_o 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