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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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sunt_fw-la in_fw-la id_fw-la mutare_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la the_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o can_v make_v that_o which_o be_v not_o of_o nothing_o can_v it_o not_o change_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v into_o that_o which_o they_o be_v not_o he_o geve_v a_o evident_a reason_n of_o his_o own_o word_n say_v non_fw-la enim_fw-la minus_fw-la est_fw-la novas_fw-la rebus_fw-la dare_v quàm_fw-la mutare_fw-la naturas_fw-la for_o it_o be_v not_o less_o to_o geve_v new_a nature_n unto_o thing_n then_o to_o change_v nature_n as_o who_o shall_v say_v he_o that_o can_v geve_v new_a nature_n can_v much_o more_o change_v nature_n now_o sir_n i_o pray_v you_o when_o god_n geve_v new_a nature_n do_v he_o not_o geve_v new_a substance_n when_o therefore_o he_o be_v say_v at_o the_o same_o time_n to_o work_v in_o change_a nature_n it_o be_v mean_v that_o he_o change_v substance_n to_o wit_n bread_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o wine_n into_o his_o blood_n you_o have_v a_o 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