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A58130 A dialogue betwixt two Protestants in answer to a popish catechism called A short catechism against all sectaries : plainly shewing that the members of the Church of England are no sectaries but true Catholicks and that our Church is a found part of Christ's holy Catholick Church in whose communion therefore the people of this nation are most strictly bound in conscience to remain : in two parts. Rawlet, John, 1642-1686. 1685 (1685) Wing R352; ESTC R11422 171,932 286

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piety_n and_o virtue_n to_o imitate_v their_o good_a example_n obey_v their_o counsel_n and_o please_v ourselves_o with_o the_o forethought_n of_o that_o happy_a time_n when_o we_o shall_v follow_v they_o into_o glory_n moreover_o since_o we_o believe_v that_o our_o prayer_n can_v profit_v our_o friend_n when_o they_o be_v dead_a this_o may_v well_o make_v we_o more_o industrious_a to_o do_v they_o all_o the_o good_a we_o can_v whilst_o they_o be_v alive_a and_o if_o by_o god_n blessing_n on_o our_o endeavour_n they_o become_v true_o pious_a and_o good_a in_o this_o world_n we_o shall_v have_v no_o need_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o when_o they_o be_v go_v into_o the_o other_o but_o rather_o will_v they_o have_v cause_n to_o praise_n god_n for_o we_o by_o this_o time_n i_o hope_v you_o perceive_v how_o little_a cause_n there_o be_v of_o separation_n from_o our_o church_n on_o account_n of_o our_o not_o use_v prayer_n for_o the_o deliverance_n of_o soul_n out_o of_o purgatory_n since_o 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