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A17219 Questions of religion cast abroad in Helvetia by the aduersaries of the same: and aunswered by M. H. Bullinger of Zurick: reduced into .17. common places. Translated into Englishe by Iohn Coxe. 1572 Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575.; Coxe, John. 1572 (1572) STC 4074; ESTC S113230 103,005 301

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christ_n teach_v that_o the_o faithful_a be_v make_v all_o pure_a in_o he_o although_o there_o remain_v some_o part_n of_o infirmity_n in_o they_o whereof_o they_o have_v need_n to_o be_v cleanse_v for_o he_o manifest_o say_v he_o that_o be_v wash_v have_v no_o need_n save_v to_o wash_v his_o foot_n for_o he_o be_v clean_o altogether_o john._n 13._o and._n 15._o and_o s._n paul_n teach_v the_o same_o roman_n 7._o and._n 8._o where_o he_o show_v that_o many_o thing_n be_v yet_o want_v in_o the_o faithful_a which_o be_v not_o impute_v unto_o they_o because_o of_o their_o faith_n in_o christ_n and_o therefore_o in_o the_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n we_o confess_v that_o we_o belèeve_fw-mi the_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n &_o the_o life_n everlasting_a and_o as_o we_o believe_v so_o shall_v it_o be_v unto_o we_o we_o believe_v our_o sin_n be_v forgive_v we_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v so_o furthermore_o when_o we_o say_v sin_n we_o do_v not_o only_o 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purity_n come_v only_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n through_o faith_n in_o the_o death_n of_o chryst._n act_n 1●_o gala._n 7._o and._n 1._o john._n 1._o but_o how_o feeble_a a_o argument_n that_o be_v which_o they_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n requite_v with_o their_o punishment_n in_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n which_o before_o they_o want_v to_o perfect_v repentance_n we_o have_v heretofore_o show_v when_o we_o entreat_v of_o faith_n and_o work_n prove_v then_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o both_o do_v and_o suffer_v not_o to_o be_v worthy_a of_o that_o joy_n whereof_o in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v we_o be_v make_v partaker_n by_o christ_n three_o we_o blame_v in_o their_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n that_o they_o attribute_v not_o purity_n to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n
only_o without_o the_o which_o yet_o nothing_o can_v purge_v we_o but_o without_o all_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n they_o fain_o unto_o we_o i_o know_v not_o what_o kind_n of_o fire_n to_o the_o which_o they_o without_o all_o shame_n attribute_v our_o purge_n this_o also_o we_o find_v false_a with_o they_o for_o that_o they_o say_v the_o faithful_a who_o depart_v out_o of_o this_o life_n be_v torment_v in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o chryst_n very_o very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o he_o that_o hear_v my_o word_n and_o believe_v he_o that_o send_v i_o have_v eternal_a life_n and_o shall_v not_o come_v into_o judgement_n but_o pass_v from_o death_n to_o life_n john_n 5._o wherefore_o if_o he_o go_v into_o purgatory_n then_o must_v he_o needs_o come_v into_o judgement_n but_o sith_o the_o faithful_a pass_n from_o death_n to_o life_n we_o answer_v that_o the_o faithful_a be_v clear_o purge_v of_o the_o lord_n and_o be_v not_o subject_a to_o any_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n the._n xxxv_o question_n whether_o the_o prayer_n alm_n and_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v do_v in_o the_o christian_n church_n for_o those_o who_o be_v torment_v in_o purgatory_n be_v profitable_a to_o they_o or_o not_o the_o answer_n forasmuch_o as_o we_o have_v dead_a already_o plain_o declare_v that_o our_o adversary_n err_v even_o in_o the_o chief_a point_n of_o this_o question_n and_o that_o be_v in_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n itself_o because_o it_o have_v no_o testimony_n in_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o i_o conclude_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a can_v not_o there_o be_v punish_v because_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n and_o therefore_o we_o need_v not_o pray_v for_o they_o after_o they_o be_v dead_a or_o do_v any_o thing_n for_o they_o save_v only_o to_o make_v a_o reverend_a remembrance_n and_o render_v thanks_n unto_o god_n for_o that_o it_o have_v please_v he_o to_o call_v they_o out_o of_o this_o world_n in_o the_o true_a faith_n unto_o 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nothing_o appertain_v to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n nor_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o faith_n again_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o our_o father_n die_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n with_o we_o wherein_o we_o say_v i_o believe_v the_o remission_n of_o sin_n the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n &_o the_o life_n everlasting_a wherefore_o scythe_n the_o universal_a faith_n &_o the_o manifest_a testimony_n of_o the_o scripture_n do_v evident_o prove_v that_o all_o they_o which_o by_o true_a faith_n commit_v they_o self_n to_o the_o grace_n and_o mercy_n of_o god_n and_o die_v in_o christ_n be_v preserve_v of_o he_o so_o as_o they_o come_v not_o into_o judgement_n into_o any_o fire_n pain_n or_o punishment_n 〈◊〉_d be_v receive_v into_o everlasting_a ioye●_n how_o then_o i_o beseech_v you_o can_v we_o pr●_n for_o they_o or_o do_v such_o like_a thing_n for_o the●_z salvation_n whereof_o in_o deed_n they_o sho●●_n have_v need_n if_o they_o suffer_v any_o pay●_n or_o punishment_n but_o they_o suffer_v no●_n and_o therefore_o there_o need_v nothing_o be_v do_v to_o deliver_v they_o from_o it_o f●●_v if_o after_o the_o departure_n out_o of_o this_o life_n the_o true_a faith_n they_o yet_o nevertheless_n suffer_v the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n punishment_n and_o torment_n than_o we●_z all_o that_o vain_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n which_o be_v read_v and_o teach_v we_o out_o of_o 〈…〉_o holy_a scripture_n touch_v the_o fr●●_n merciful_a promise_n of_o god_n the_o deliverance_n by_o chryst_n and_o of_o the_o certain_a tie_o and_o verity_n of_o faith_n yea_o our_o fay●_n itself_o shall_v be_v most_o untrue_a b●_n our_o faith_n be_v certain_a and_o sure_a ther●_n fore_n as_o our_o father_n do_v undoubted_o b●_z léeve_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n &_o eternal_a life_n so_o have_v they_o undoubted_o o●_n ▪_o teyn_v the_o same_o and_o feel_v no_o pain_n in_o ●●e_z other_o life_n and_o therefore_o both_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o praise_n and_o 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