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A13160	A challenge concerning the Romish Church, her doctrine & practises, published first against Rob. Parsons, and now againe reuiewed, enlarged, and fortified, and directed to him, to Frier Garnet, to the archpriest Blackevvell and all their adhærents, by Matth. Sutcliffe. Thereunto also is annexed an answere vnto certeine vaine, and friuolous exceptions, taken to his former challenge, and to a certeine worthlesse pamphlet lately set out by some poore disciple of Antichrist, and entituled, A detection of diuers notable vntrueths, contradictions, corruptions, and falsifications gathered out of M. Sutcliffes new challenge, &c.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.; Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629. Briefe replie to a certaine odious and slanderous libel.	1602 (1602)	STC 23454; ESTC S117867	337,059	440

per manus sancti angeli tui in sublime altare tuum Command these things saith the priest speaking of the bodie and blood of Christ to be brought by the hands of the holy angell vnto thy high altar these things are blasphemous and cannot be allowed of Christ his church neither can Parsons or Bellarmine answere that these words are found in the booke of sacraments attributed to S. Ambrose lib. 4. c. 6. for there is great difference betwixt the words of the canon of the masse the words of that author and the meaning of him is cleane contrary for neuer shall it be prooued that the author of that treatise beléeued that the body and blood of Christ was vnder the formes of bread and wine in the sacrament or that he meant the body and blood of Christ where he compareth the sacrament to the sacrifices of Abel and Abraham argument 40 The true church of Christ neuer added to the words of Christ in the consecration of the cup saying noui aeterni testamenti mysterium fidei neither are these words found in the old formularies of the liturgies of the church of Rome as I haue shewed in my treatise of the masse against Bellarmine doth not then this new tricke of the latter Romish church departing from the former shew a manifest difference betwixt them argument 41 The true church did neuer offer the sacrament pro redemptione animarum suarum neither did the same vse the commemoration for the dead as it is in the Romish missal saying memento domine famulorum famularúmque qui nos praecesserunt cum signo fidei dormiunt in somno pacis nay this forme is not to be found in the olde formulary which the Romans vsed about fiue or six hundred yeeres agone but now all m In canone missae Romanists do thus say and pray if then Rob. Parsons could shew this forme or any such prayers or words in ancient authors he might doe a great pleasure to the church of Rome that otherwise is like to proue the synagogue of Antichrist argument 42 The true church of Christ did neuer consecrate incense nor say n In ordinar missae per intercessionē beati Michaelis archangeli stantis a dextris altaris incensi omnium electorum suorum incensum istud dignetur dominus benedicere in odorem suauitatis accipere if Robert Parsons can prooue the contrary let him do it otherwise the Romish church will fall out not to be Christes true church argument 43 The true church neuer had distinct masses whereof some were ordinary others proper for the times others proper for saints others for particular mens deuotions as for example for the election of the pope for taking away schismaticall contentions for time of warre for time of sicknesse and such other occasions but the o Missale Rom. Romish church hath masses for all these causes and occasions argument 44 The true church did neuer consecrate holy water and say exorcizo te creatura salis c. and exorcizo te creatura aquae c. vt fias aqua exorcizata ad effugandam omnem potestatem inimici ipsum inimicum eradicare explantare valeas cum angelis suis apostaticis it is not the true church therefore that doth practise these exorcismes argument 45 The Christian church doth not reteine the ceremonies of the Iewes nor eat the Paschall lambe for as the p 1. Cor. 5. apostle saith Pascha nostrum immolatus est Christus but the q In fine missalis Rom. Romanists according to the rules of their missal doe consecrate and eat a Paschal lambe and pray thus Deus qui per famulum tuum Moysem in liberatione populi tui de Aegypto agnum occidi iussisti in similitudinem Domini nostri Iesu Christi vtrosque postes domorum de sanguine huius agni perungi praecepisti ita benedicere sanctificare digneris hanc creaturam carnis quam nos famuli tui ad laudem tuam sumere desideramus argument 46 The true church of God neuer formed any image of God the Father or God the Holy ghost or of Gods diuine essence neither did the same euer set vp images in churches to be worshipped with lights incense kissing crowching prayers or other such like ceremonies the second commandement directly forbiddeth the making of grauen images to be worshipped and districtly commandeth vs that we should not bow downe vnto them and that this commandement was direct against the worwip of images the first Christians did well vnderstand r Aduers gentes Arnobius saith that they had no altars nor temples nor images worshiped in open shew ne simulachra quidem veneramur saith ſ Contra Celsum lib. 7. Origen quippe qui Dei vt inuisibilis ita incorporei formam nullam effigiamus t Lib. 2. diuin instit c. 19. Lactantius doubteth not to affirme that there is no religion where there is an image and when images and pictures began to créepe into the churches as an outward ornament the councell of Eliberis to preuent all inconueniences forbad pictures in churches Placuit saith the u Concil Elib c. 36. councell picturas in ecclesia esse non debere ne quod colitur aut adoratur in parietibus depingatur such was then the religion of Spaine Arnobius declareth that Christians were not woont to worship the crosse Cruces saith x Aduers gentes lib. 8. he nec colimus nec optamus nay y Lib. 9. epist 9. Gregory the first himselfe albeit he would not haue images broken downe yet would he not haue them adored or worshipped and Ionas Aurelianensis albeit a defender of images yet writeth thus of them Creaturam adorari eíque aliquid diuinae seruitutis impendi proh nefas ducimus huiusque sceleris patratorem detestandum anathematizandum libera voce proclamumus saith z De cultu imaginum lib. 4. Ionas but papists fall downe before images and giue diuine worship to the crosse and crucifixe neither do they onely make the images of the Father and Holy ghost but worship them finally they burne incense knéele and pray to stocks and stones argument 47 The true church did neuer pray or administer the holy sacraments of the Lords supper and Baptisme in a strange tongue not vnderstood of the common sort Si orem lingua saith the a 1. Cor. 14. apostle spiritus meus orat mens autem mea fine fructu est he saith it is fruitlesse to pray in a tongue not vnderstood and reason teacheth vs that this is true for if God respect not the mouing of our lips vnlesse our heart accord with our tongue how can our heart accord when we vnderstand not what our tongue vttereth finally the practise of the church teacheth vs that a knowen tongue is to be vsed in publike praiers and in the administration of sacraments as the answers of the people to the priest in all ancient liturgies and the

body and this is my blood gaue a sacrament of his bodie and blood and not that body that sat at the table nor the blood that was in the veines of his body l Lib. 4. contr Marcion Tertullian saith that Christ made the bread which was deliuered to his disciples his body by saying this is my body that is the figure of my body and likewise saint m Contra Adimantum c. 12. Augustine affirmeth that Christ doubted not to say this is my body when he gaue a signe of his bodie and that this is the catholike faith concerning this sacrament I haue at large declared in a treatise of the reall presence of late published against Bellarmine which Robert Parsons may doe well to take notice of argument 50 They anathematise all those that shall affirme that the substance of bread and wine remaineth in the sacrament after consecration n Concil Trid. sess 13. and that shall dare to deny transubstantiation which curse lighteth not on vs onely but vpon the apostle saint Paule who after the words of consecration speaking of the sacrament saieth let a man examine himselfe and so eat of this bread and drinke of this cup. it falleth also vpon all true catholikes that according to our Sauiours wordes shall call the cup being consecrate genimen vitis o Aduers Iudaeos Tertullian saith that Christ called bread his body Saint Hierome in a certeine epistle to Hedibia saith that the bread which the Lord brake and gaue to his disciples is the Lords body this is also saint Augustines iudgement c. qui manducant de consectat dist 2. and Theodorets in his first dialogue and diuers others that affirme that the pronoune Hoc in these words hoc est corpus meum doth demonstrate the bread finally vnlesse the papists grant that the bread remaineth in the sacrament after consecration they must néedes grant that Christ hath a body impalpable inuisible and that may be in all altars at once and yet filleth no place and such a body as neuer man had before nor euer shall haue héereafter argument 51 p Sess 13. concil Trid. c. 5. They anathematise those that shall affirme that the principal fruite of the eucharist is remission of sinnes which falleth vpon all catholikes that shall beléeue these words of q Matth. 26. Christ this is my blood of the new testament which is shed for many for remission of sinnes argument 52 They do also bitterly curse all such as shall say that Christs body in the sacrament is not to be worshipped r Concil Trid. sess 13. c. 6. with diuine honour or that shall condemne the feast of corpus Christi or the popish fashion in carying about the sacrament and yet neuer true catholike did so worship or cary about the sacrament as papists doe our Sauiour said take eat and not fall downe and worship or cary about this sacrament or put it in a pixe the disciples they did also as our Sauiour Christ commanded and the ancient church as appeareth by all the ancient liturgies did communicate and not worship the sacrament as their Lord and God according to the stile of the Romanists argument 53 ſ Ibid. c. 8. They doe anathematize all them that hold that Christ is receiued in the sacrament spiritually and not otherwise which toucheth saint Augustine and all catholikes he t Tract 25. in Ioan. saith vt quid paras dentem the rest say that Christs flesh is meat of the soule and not of the body cibus mentis non ventris argument 54 They do also u Sess 22. anathematise such as deny the body blood of Christ to be really and properly offered vp in the masse for an externall and propitiatory sacrifice for quicke and dead and say that the eucharist is a memoriall of Christes sacrifice on the crosse but the apostle Heb. 7. 10. teacheth vs that Christ his sacrifice was to be offered vp but once and that he left no successours behinde him to offer this sacrifice * De demonstr euangel lib. 1. Eusebius also saith that our sacrifice is the memoriall of Christ his sacrifice and this also Chrysostome vpon the epistle to the Hebrewes cléerely demonstrateth argument 55 They do offer sacrifice for the dead and in honor of the virgine Mary and of saints likewise do they offer Christs body as they say for faire weather for peace and what they please but this shall not Robert Parsons be euer able to shew to haue béene practised by catholikes nay of such deuices there is not any signe or suspicion in ancient liturgies but of the contrary rather argument 56 Ancient catholikes resorting to church y Can. apost 9. 10. departed not before they receiued the communion but now the priest eateth and drinketh all and sendeth away Gods people emptie argument 57 Christ instituted the sacrament of the Lords supper in both kinds and so Christians receiued it in ancient time as the doctors assembled at Constance confesse and yet they decrée that beside the priest that doth minister all the rest shall content themselues with one kinde argument 58 Catholikes do not beléeue that priests administring the sacrament worke woonders but the papists beléeue that they worke diuers miracles making one body to be in many places and accidents to subsist without subiect and an humane body to be in a place without filling the place of a body argument 59 The z Hebr. 5. 7. apostle telleth vs that Christ onely is a priest according to the order of Melchisedech and this all catholikes beléeue but papists beléeue that euery greasie and polshorne priest is a priest after the order of Melchisedech yea although as they suppose he offereth neither bread nor wine as did Melchisedech argument 60 Christ taught vs to pray to the father in his name and so did all true catholikes in ancient time but now papists pray to Christ in the name of our Lady and of saints as if we were not to approch to our Mediatour without the mediation of others to the virgine Mary they pray thus a In breuiar Aue maris stella Dei mater alma atque semper virgo foelix coeli porta solue vincla reis profer lumen caecis in the Romish breuiary they call her dulcem amicam Dei in the missal of Sarum per te mater say they aboleri filiorum flagitamus crimina nósque omnes introduci in sempiterna paradisi gaudia as if the holy virgine had power to remit sinnes and were the gate by which we enter into heauen argument 61 Catholikes neuer vsed to bow themselues before stocks or stones or to pray before them are they then catholiks which like to the b Hierem. 2. idolatrous Iewes say to a stocke thou art my father and to a stone thou hast begotten me which set light before those that can not sée and crie before those that can not heare and say c

ancient church accounted apocryphal as g In epist ad Paulin. in prolog in prouerb Hierome h In Synops Athanasius and diuers of the ancient fathers 〈◊〉 witnesse It alloweth also the old latin translation of the bible though different from the originall bookes the same also admitteth for principles of faith the sentences of popes the doctrine of the Romish church that now is the traditions of the Romish church the consent of fathers and diuers other grounds as Stapleton disputeth in his bookes De doctrinalibus principijs argument 7 i Arg. 7. Neuer certes did the church of Christ speake euill of scriptures k Lib. 3 aduersus haeres c. 2. Irenaeus saith It is the property of heretikes when they are conuinced by scriptures to fal into dislike of them and to accuse them as for the children of God they cannot either calumniate or lightly estéeme their heauenly fathers testamēt or refuse to heare his voice but the scriptures conteine a declaration of the eternall testament of our heauenly father and therefore they are rightly called his testament in the scriptures also God speaketh vnto vs. and therefore if we be Christs sheepe we cānot but hearken to his voice My sheepe saith our l Iohn 10. Sauiour heare my voice but the Romish church is still carping at scriptures as if they were neither sufficient nor perspicuous m Lib. 4. de verl die c. 4. Bellarmine saith they are neither necessarie nor sufficient without traditions n Praefat in re●act princip doctr Stapleton denieth them to be a sufficient foundation or rule of our faith the authors of the annotations vpon the Rhemish testament doe call them most blasphemously a killing letter and signifie that the reading of them is pernicious o Censur colo● others slander them as if they were a nose of waxe or a matter and subiect of contention argument 8 The church of God neuer called the bishop of Rome either a god on the earth or Christes vicar generall or vniuersall bishop but the church of Rome admitteth all this the canonists exalt him like a god p Epist ad Gregorium 13. ante princip doct Stapleton calleth him supremum numen in terris generally they call him vniuersall bishop and condemne all that hold contrary argument 9 The church of God doth kéepe the doctrine of the apostles and prophets q Gal. 1. without addition alteration or corruption and the apostle pronounceth him accursed r Aduers haeres c. 34. that teacheth any other Gospel than that which he taught Vincentius Lirinensis saith that this is the propertie of catholicks to kéepe the faith and doctrine of the fathers committed to them in trust and to condemne prophane nouelties Catholicorū saith he hoc ferè proprium deposita sanctorum patrum commissa seruare damnare prophanas vocum nouitates sicut dixit iterum dixit apostolus si quis annuntiauerit praeterquam quod acceptum est anathematizare but the papists kéepe not entire the originall writings of the olde and new testament nor allow them as authenticall neither will they yéeld the canonicall scriptures to be a perfect and sufficient rule of faith nor doe they allow the law of God to be a perfect law nor doe they kéepe Christes institution in the Sacrament of the Lords supper distributing the kinds of bread and wine to the communicants but haue vnto this rule added vnwritten traditions and the determinations of popes concerning matters of faith they haue also encreased the numbers of Sacraments and added many precepts and rules not receiued in the Apostolicke church argument 10 The true Church can not endure hereticks and false apostles that teach doctrine contrary to the faith of Christ and doctrine of Christes apostles Christ Iesus speaking of his shéepe saith They will not follow a stranger but flie from him for that they know not the voice of strangers The apostles gaue vnto Christians a speciall charge concerning this point If there come any vnto you saith S. ſ Epist 2. Iohn and bring not this doctrine receiue him not to house neither salute him Tantum apostoli horum discipuli saith t Lib. 3. aduers haeres c. 3. Irenaeus habuerunt timorem vt neque verbotenus communicarent alicui eorum qui adulterauerant veritatem Let vs separate our selues saith Cyprian as farre from them as they separate themselues from the church The true church certes can not embrace erroneous doctrine neither can any heretiks be accounted Christians Si haeretici sint saith u De praescrip aduers haeret Tertullian Christianiesse non possunt But the Papists communicate with hereticks as Liberius Felix Vigilius Honorius Iohn the 22. and 23. whom in my treatise De pontifice Rom. I declared to be heretiks they do also embrace the heresie of Angelicks in worshipping angels of the Collyridians in worshipping the blessed Virgin of Marcion Valentinus and others in denying Christes true bodie in the Sacrament to be solide and palpaple of the Pelagians in magnifying their merits and the force of frée will of the Carpocratians in burning incense and worshipping the images of Iesus and Paul and diuers others as we shall héereafter particularly declare argument 11 The true Church of Christ admitteth not the apocryphal legends of S. George Cyricus and Iulitta for these are condemned by the censure of Gelasius who testifieth that the olde Church of Rome receiued not any such legends but the latter Church of Rome and papists of our time doe admit these legends and out them they gather their traditions which they make equall to the word of God argument 12 The Church of God is the mistresse and teacher of trueth and admitteth no falshood nor vntrueth the apostle doeth call her the pillar and ground of trueth Est fons veritatis saith x Instit diuin lib. 4. c. vlt. Lactantius speaking of the church hoc est domicilium fidei that is she is the fountaine of trueth she is the house where true faith dwelleth but the church of Rome that now is is not only a receptacle of leud opinions but also the mother and mistresse of lies and vanities and so Petrarch for aboue two hundred yéeres doubted not to call her Madre d'errori e tempio d'haeresia saith he which authoritie albeit they regard not yet the same which he auoucheth is prooued first in that the church of Rome auoucheth lying traditions as for example the tradition concerning Ember fasts and fasts vpon Saints vigiles concerning the ceremonies of the masse concerning the words aeterni mysterium fidei thrust into the words of consecration of the challice and such like secondly the same approoueth lying and forged decretals as for example C. Constantinus dist 96. and c. ego Ludouicus dist 63. and c. quis nesciat dist 11. infinit more of that nature thirdly the same giueth credit to Caesar Baronius his most lying and fabulous narrations and the popes haue commended them

tu nos ab hoste protege hora mortis suscipe argument 72 Neither did Christians in olde time chant such Letanies as now are vsuall in the Romish missals and breuiaries saying Sancte Michael sancte Gabriel sancte Raphael nor sancta Maria Magdalena sancta Agnes sancta Agatha nor omnes sancti sanctae intercedite pro nobis argument 73 In ancient f Vid. ordinem Rom. missals the praier memento for the dead is not in the canon the ancient fathers did neuer vse such a form argument 74 In ancient time it would haue bene thought very strange to pray in a tongue not vnderstood especially when the apostle g 1. Cor. 14. teacheth vs that it profiteth nothing argument 75 The psalter of our lady and her peculier offices are not to be iustified by ancient precedents argument 76 If any had bene taken praying to a stocke or stone he would haue bene condemned for an idolater but now papists commonly pray to images of wood and stone and to the crosse they say auge pijs iustitiam reisque dona veniam which although it may be thought sottish and sencelesse yet will they not haue it counted idolatrous argument 77 Christ forbadde vs to vse battologies or often repetitions in our praiers but the papists neither regarding his doctrine nor the practise of the ancient church in their psalter of Iesu repeat the name of Iesu infinit times they reherse also infinit Aue Mariaes and Pater Nosters argument 78 In the Missale of Salsbury the priest saith to the sacrament Aue. he boweth also to it contrary to the ancient churches practise argument 79 The Rosaries and beades of our lady containing 63. Aue Mariaes and 7. Pater Nosters which are now much reckoned of in Spaine and Italy as appeareth by the manuall of Geronymo Campos are but new tricks of late popes and superstitious priests to catch mony argument 80 In time past Christians were wont to entombe holy martyrs and to call vpon God at their tombes and monuments But of late time the blinde papists haue digged the saints out of their graues and thinke it religion to call vpon them and to kisse rotten bones and ragges yea sometimes which belong not to the saints to whome they are attributed argument 81 The papists also worship wicked men as George of Cappadocia an Arrian hereticke Thomas Becket an impure fellow and a traitor to his country h La fulminante Ieames Clement the murderer of his liege soueraine Campian and Sherwin and such as died in England for notorious treasons argument 82 Neither are they ashamed to call the sacrament their lord and god as appeareth by the words of Alane in his treatise de sacrific euchar c. 41. and Bristow in his 26. motiue which they cannot iustifie by testimony of antiquity argument 83 They also worship the sacrament with diuine honour as if God and the sacrament were one person the priest after consecration doth adore it as it is in the rubrike of the i Missal Rom. missal and boweth his knee vnto it they hang the sacrament vpon the altar with light before it and cary it about with lightes and bells and great solemnity all which Robert Parsons will not proue to be practised by the ancient church of Christ nay when he goeth about it he shall finde that the principall authors of this idolatry were Honorius the 3. Vrbane the 4. and Clement the fift men of late time and leud stampe argument 84 To the crosse they say ô crux aue spes vnica and venite adoremus as is proued by the Romish portesse sabbat in hebd 4. quadrages and booke of ceremonies and pontificall in die parasc neither are they ashamed to confesse that latria or diuine worship is due to the crosse albeit all antiquity abhorred such grosse idolatry argument 85 They worship the images of god the father of god the sonne and god the holy ghost and the whole trinity with latria or diuine worship as may be gathered by their practise by the decrée of the conuenticle of Trent the 25. session by the testimony of Suares in 3. part Thom. tom 1. disp 54. sect 4. and of vellosillus in aduertent in 5. tom Hieronym ad 10. quae sit which the ancient fathers neuer did nay the idolatrous second councell of Nice allowed not this supreme worship of Latria to be due to any images argument 86 Gregory the first in a certaine epistle to Serenus declareth that albeit images are not to be broken downe and vtterly abolished out of churches yet they are not to be worshipped Epiphanius vtterly condemneth the hauing of them in churches and to that effect the councell of Eliberis in Spaine made a solemne k Can. 36 act Placuit say the fathers of that councell picturas in ecclesia esse non debere ne quod colitur aut adoratur in parietibus depingatur but now the papists not onely place them in churches but also adore them and worship them argument 87 Antiquity neuer burnt incense to images nor kissed them nor bowed downe to them nor said their praiers before them for that is repugnant to the second commandement and is derogatory to Gods honor but the papists now doe all this and thinke it piously doone also argument 87 In ancient time Christians serued God in spirit and trueth according to the saying of our sauiour Iohn 4. but the religion of papists consisteth in eating of redde herrings and salt fish in abstinence from flesh and white meats in knocking knéeling greasing shauing washing ducking crouching crossing and such like outward ceremonies argument 88 The ancient fathers did neuer take the bishop of Rome to be head or foundation of the church for well they remembred that our Sauiour Christ is the head of the church and Sauiour of his body and l 1. Cor. 3. that no man can lay other foundation then that which is laid which is Christ Iesus and that the church is built vpon the apostles and prophets Christ Iesus being the corner stone but vpon apostles and prophets because they preach vnto vs Christ Iesus but the papists now teach that the pope is both the foundation and the head of the church for that doth Bellarmine teach in his preface before his bookes de Pontifice Rom. and in the second booke chap. 31. of that treatise neither doe I thinke that any papists will denie it argument 89 Neither did they call the pope in ancient time the spouse of the church for that doeth onely belong to Christ adiunxi vos vni viro saith the apostle 2. Corinth 10. ad exhibendam virginem castam Christo but the papists m C. vbi periculum de elect in sexto doe not sticke to call the pope the spouse of the church and Bellarmine of his liberalitie doeth giue the pope that title lib. 2. de Pontif. Rom. c. 31. and the pope like a good fellow taketh the same to himselfe c. quoniam de

coronae Ignis thura preces coelum est venale detisque Benedict the 9. sold his popedome for a great summe of mony and al the world knoweth that without simoniacall compacts no man can enter into that seat they sell mens sinnes and for money they offer to sell heauen the priests sell masses as deare as they can albeit such marchandise be now decried and of little woorth for which cause Brigit inueigheth bitterly against them and saith they are woorse then Iudas deteriores sunt Iuda saith u Brigit 132. onus ecclesae 23. Christ in Brigits reuelations qui pro solis denariis me vendidit illi autem pro omni mercimonio so it séemeth that these are the merchants of which mention is made Apocalyps 18. which sell mens soules beside that the canonists dispute that it is lawfull for the pope to buy and sell benefices palles and mitres and Bellarmine with all his skill mainteineth the sale of Iubileies and other indulgences of Simon Magus also x De haeres c. 1. Augustine affirmeth quod docebat detestandam turpitudinem indifferenter vtendi foeminis quod imagines suam Helenes praebebat discipulis suis adorandas that is he taught it was no sinne to vse women without making difference betwixt wife concubine and whoore for that is the signification of the word indifferenter and gaue his owne image the image of his leman Selena to be worshipped of his disciples finally he carried a concubine about with him called Selena let it therefore be iudged with indifferency whether the papists haue not some touch of these hereticall tricks who in Rome and all great cities almost mainteine common bordels and y They put adultery and fornication in the ranke of lesser crimes c. at siclerici de iudicijs account lechery a small sinne whose priests commonly kéepe concubines and finally which worship the images of diuers lecherous priests and their whoores canonised by the pope for saints as Dunstane and Alfgina Bernac and his leman and many others and albeit we are not able to say much for the honesty of Francis and Clare yet it is apparent that the papists worship their images so it appeareth that the first foundation of the worship of images was laied either by Simon Magus or by Carpocrates and Marcellina and other heretikes of Simon Magus also it may be they borrow their exorcisations for they are rather magicall than Christian like as appeareth by them as they are set downe in Hierome Menghus a disciple as it séemeth of Simon Magus argument 7 The Basilidians were reputed heretikes for that they worshipped images and vsed enchantments and superstitious adiurations for that is prooued by the testimony of z Lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 23. Irenaeus how then can the papists wipe away the blot of heresie that not onely priuately worship images but also fill euery corner of their churches full of them and like the statues of Mercury set them vp in high waies they doe also coniure and enchant water saying exorcizo te creatura aquae and salt saying exorcizo te creatura salis as if the creatures were possessed or corrupted by diuels likewise they coniure and enchant candles hearbes and make exorcistes and coniurers a holie order and that order a sacrament of the church argument 8 a Iren●y lib. 1. c. 24. Carpocrates vsed to worship images and Marcellina one of his followers adored the images of Iesu and Paule and burnt incense vnto them Colebat saith b De bares c. 7. Augustine imagines Iesu Pauli Homeri Pythagorae adorando incensumque ponendo if then this were heresie in them why should it not be heresie in papists to worship the image of Iesu with diuine worship and to burne incense not onely before the images of Iesu and Paule but also before other petie saints and percase no saints if the image of Christ Iesu and Paule might not be adored how come the images of Christopher and saint Catherine that neuer were in the world of George that was an heretike and Thomas Becket and Campian that were traitors to be adored and honored with light and incense argument 9 The Carpocratians and Basilidians did conceale and hide the mysteries of their religion least holy things should be cast to dogges as may appeare partly by the testimony of Irenaeus aduersus haeres lib. 1. c. 23. and Epiphanius intreating of the 24. and 27. heresie and what doe the papists doe not they reherse the words of the canon so that no man can heare and doe they not keepe the mysteries of their religion secret when they c Nauarri enthirid Alagona teach that it is mortall sinne for lay men to dispute of matters of faith and reade scriptures and the publike liturgy in tongues not vnderstood of the hearers finally haue not diuers of them alledged that the reason why scriptures are not translated into vulgar tongues nor in that tongue read publikly is because holy things are not to be cast to dogs argument 10 The Marcosians did baptise in an vnknowen language and anoint those whom they baptised with chrisme or opobalsamum that is testified by Epiphanius haeres 34. this by Irenaeus aduers haeres lib. 1. c. 18. they did also anoint their dead and giue them extreme vnction Marcus their founder went about to make his followers beleeue that he did transubstantiate wine into blood in the sacrament In that which he calleth the eucharist saith d Haeres 34. Epiphanius they say that the rednesse viz. of the wine is changed straightwaies into blood The followers of Marcus accounted themselues perfect but as e Lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 15. Irenaeus saith perfectus nemo nisi qui maxima mendacia apud eos fructificauerit Finally they alledge a multitude of apocryphall writings forged by themselues as Ireney testifieth of them lib. 1. aduers haeres c. 18. all which points of heresie the papists séeme to haue translated into their religion for first they baptize in a language not vnderstood of the multitude next they vse greasing and anointing in baptisme and confirmation thirdly they grease their disciples when they lie on dying fourthly they beléeue that wine in the Lords cup by certeine words of consecration is transubstantiate into blood fitly their orders of religion doe account themselues to be in state of perfection but the most perfect of them which are emploied by the pope in defence of the popish faction and religion do fructifie plenteously in telling of greatest lies as we shall in his place exemplifie by Bellarmine a cardinall and Robert Parsons in hope and desire a cardinall and a most famous forger of lies his putatiue father father Coobucke they say could not with more art forge a horseshoo than he can forge a lie Finally for proofe of their traditions and doctrine they haue forged diuers decretale epistles and counterfeit canons and haue written diuers lying legends Parsons to trouble

be imperfectly and analogically argument 25 Saint Ambrose teacheth vs that to worship the crosse or crucifix is plaine idolatry and paganisme Inuenit Helena crucem domini saith h De qbitu Theodosi ● he regem adorauit non lignum vtique quia hic Gentilis est error sed adorauit illum qui pependit in cruce he saith that Helene finding the crosse did adore her king that is Christ Iesus and not the wood because this is the error of the heathen idolaters he addeth also that she worshipped him that hung on the crosse i In epist ad Ioan. Hierosolym apud Hieron Epiphanius also sheweth that the image of Christ is not to be worshipped nor hung vp in churches for that he tore a vaile wherein such an image was figured and that contrary to scriptures as he saith inueni velum pendens in foribus eiusdem ecclesiae tinctum atque depictum habens imaginem quasi Christi saith Epiphanius and afterward cum hoc vidissem in ecclesia Christi contra authoritatem scripturarum hominis pendere imaginem scidi illud the papists therefore by the iudgement of Epiphanius place Christ his image in the church contrary to scriptures and like to the heathen idolaters worship the crosse giuing to it latria as to Christ Iesus himselfe argument 26 The worship also of angels which the papists practise is idolatrous for they pray vnto them k In litanijc saying sancte Michael sancte Gabriel sancte Raphael omnes angeli archangeli orate pro nobis they l In itinerario ad finem Breuiarij pray likewise to vnknowen angels they confesse their sinnes to them saying confite or beato Michaeli archangelo they set them out in imagery and bow to them and burne incense to them and kisse them finally they erect churches and altars and say masses in honour of angels all which to be idolatrous not onely the scriptures but also the fathers teach vs. non oportet Christianos say the fathers of the m Can. 35. councell of Laodicea derelicta ecclesia abire adangelos idolatriae abominandae congregationes facere Christians say they ought not to leaue the church of God and to assemble themselues idolatrously to worship angels they do also excommunicate such as worship angels as idolaters n In summa concil Laod. c. 35. ● Carranza to wipe away this blot from the papists turneth angelos into angulos but Chrysostome and Theodoret in their commentaries and homilies vpon the epistle to the Colloss c. 2. 3. doe plainly shew that the councell condemned the worship of angels which they also condemne synodus quae conuenit Laodiceae saith Theodoret in epist ad Coloss c. 3. lege prohibuit ne precarentur angelos Nos non dico martyrum reliquias saith o In epist ad Riparium Hierome sed ne solem quidem Iunam non angelos non archangelos non cherubim non seraphim omne nomen quod nominatur in praesenti seculo in futuro colimus adoramus ne seruiamus creaturae potius quam creatori qui est benedictus in secula he saith p Haeres 79. that Christians do not worship or adore angels and signifieth that such worship is idolatrous as sauoring of seruice of creatures honoramus eos charitate saith saint Augustine lib. de ver relig c. 55. speaking of angels non seruitute nec eis templa construimus angelos adorari non vult that is God will not haue vs saith l Epiphanius to adore angels and againe angeli non capiunt talem glorificationem Augustine doeth therefore condemne the Angelikes as heretikes for that they worshipped angels Angelici saith he de haeres c. 39. in angelorum cultu inclinati argument 27 The papists worship the sacrament of the altar in the rubrike of the Romish misial after the words of consecration the priest is enioined to worship the sacrament hostiam consecratam genu flexo adorat likewise calicem genu flexo adorat the people also knocke their brests and adore it neither doe the papists deny but that the sacrament is to be adored latriae cultu that is with such worship as is due to God but the sacrament is a creature therefore they are plaine idolaters that worship it and this is prooued by the testimony of Epiphanius stultum est saith q Haeres 69. Epiphanius creaturam deificare reprobat autem primum praeceptum quod dicit dominum deum tuum adorabis ipsi soli cultum praestabis he saith it is a foolish thing to worship a creature as God and therefore prooueth that Christ is God and no creature because he is worshipped and for that the church doeth not worship a creature vnlesse therefore Christ be hypostatically and personally vnited to the sacrament those that worship the sacrament are idolaters as for those that worship vnconsecrated hostes the papists themselues deny not to be idolaters argument 28 They are also idolaters that worship the images and pictures of the virgine Mary of angels and saints departed this life the councell of Eliberis to auoid this idolatry r Can. 36. decréed picturas in ecclesijs esse non debere ne quod colitur aut adoratur in parietibus depingatur that is that pictures should not be in the church least any thing that is worshipped or adored should be painted on walles Non est dubium saith ſ Lib. 2. instit diuin c. 18. Lactantius quin religio nulla sit vbicunque simulachrum est nam si religio ex diuinis rebus est diuini autem nihil est nisi in caelestibus rebus carent ergo religione simulachra quia nihil potest esse coeleste in ea re quae fit ex terra he teacheth vs that there is no religion where images are worshipped as being earth and not sauoring of any heauenly or diuine quality or substance Inueni velum pendens in foribus eiusdem ecclesiae tinctum atque depictum saith t Ad Ioan. Hierosolym apud Hieronymous Epiphanius habens imaginem quasi Christi vel sancti non enim satis memini cuius imago fuerit cum ergo hoc vidissem in ecclesia Christi contra authoritatem scripturarum hominis pendere imaginem scidi illud and afterward Precor vt iubeas presbyteros eiusdem loci suscipere velum à latore quod à nobis missum est deinceps praecipere in ecclesia Christi istiusmodi vela quae contra religionem nostram veniunt non appendi he doth plainly shew that to place pictures images in churches is contrary to scriptures religion neither doth he only condemne heathen idoles but images in churches also Vnto this place our aduersaries answer that these words were not written by Epiphanius but soisted in by some other but in his booke against heresies he sheweth himselfe to be of the same opinion and doth strongly confirme that which is héere said Writing against the Collyridians haeres 79.

and yet that could not resolue himselfe in this poynt Thirdly Ambrose doubted not but Valentinian was saued albeit he dyed without Baptisme De obitu Theodos● Fourthly our aduersaries say that there are three sortes of Baptismes viz. Of water of the holy Ghost and of bloud and Bellarmine confesseth that without Baptisme men may be saued Lib. 1. de baptismo cap. 6. marty●dome and the conuersion of the hart to God supplying the defect of Baptisme and it is a common saying that not the want but the contempt of Baptisme doth damne those that depart this life without Baptisme Finally the groūd of that opinion that condemneth al dying without baptisme is laid vpon these words Nisi quis renatus fuerit ex aqua spiritu sancto Iohn 3. non potest int●oire in regnum Dei And yet our Sauiour doth speake these wordes of Baptisme no otherwise then he vttereth these wordes in the sixt of Iohn Vnlesse ye eate the flesh of the Sonne of man and d●inke his bloud ye shall haue no life in you If then no interpreter that expoundeth these wordes of the Lordes Supper will thereupon conclude that no man can bee saued vnlesse he receiue the Lordes Supper then doe not the other words inferre necessitie of Baptisme Vnto S. Augustines wordes lib. 3. de anima cap. 9. I answere that hee speaketh of such as die in originall sinne and seeme to contemne Baptisme But diuerse may die without baptisme and yet not contemne it We say also in the administration of Baptisme that none is saued that is not regenerate But it is impious to tie Gods grace vnto Sacraments We doe also speake of the ordinarie externall meanes by which saluation is obtained But we exclude not extraordinarie courses I doe also confesse that infants dying in originall sinne are damned to hell fire But I hope no man will say that all that die before Baptisme albeit they much desired it and beleeued in Christ Iesus dyed in originall sinne But sayth Owlyglasse You say that children by Baptisme are receyued into the Arke of Christes Church psal 1● But he was simple to conclude thereof that none is receyued into the Arke without Baptisme He sayth also that Lay men and women by the booke are permitted to Baptise but he should remember that it is shame for him to speake vntruth who taketh on him to controll others in that behalfe He concludeth finally Seeing the want of Baptisme doth send Infants to hell that Baptisme is necessarie to saluation But his consequent is weake and of no value For many die for want of knowledge and for want of small matters and not onely of Baptisme And yet God is not necessarily tyed to saue none but such as are baptized Sicke men also die for want of Physicke and yet is not physicke absolutely necessary In this place therfore the detector wandreth out of the way and yet effecteth nothing Sect. 3. That Catholikes vse not after the Popish maner to separate man wife vpon occasion of monastical vowes HIs third accusation is grounded vpō these words They holde that by mutuall consent the maried couple may depart asunder and that it shall not be lawfull afterward to company together A matter not onely strange in the catholike church during the Apostles and their successors times for many hundred yeares but also contrary to Christes doctrine For what man can separate them whom God hath conioined but séeking to fasten an vntruth vpon me he committeth a grosse falsification himselfe for hee cutteth off my words in the beginning See the challenge pag. 20. and midst of the sentence ●umbling the rest together very ill fauoredly and marring the grace of my sentence with his lewde handling To helpe out the matter he alleadgeth other wordes of mine out of the 35. page where I say that this proceedeth from the newe forge of popish inuention But as before so in this place he maketh mee speake of one thing in the singular number where I speake of prohibition and dissoluing of marriages for spirituall kinred and dissoluing of marriages contracted and other matters in the plurall And hauing framed my wordes after his owne lewd fashion and curtalled them at his pleasure he chargeth me with a notable vntruth as he calleth it For sayth he there be testimonies and examples in the Primitiue Church of married folkes pag. 15. that with mutuall consent vowed perpetual chastity And to that purpose he alleadgeth Epiphanius Hierom the 2. councel of Arles S. Augustine But first he minceth the matter dare not say any thing directly contrary to that which I haue written For I say that married folks might not be so separated but that they might come together againe And he talketh of separation for a time Now that which I say is most true is proued first by our sauiours words Mat. 19. for as our sauior saith that which God hath ioined let not man separate Therefore marriage being instituted by God is not to be broken by the tradition of man Secondly the words of the Apostle 1. Cor. 7. are direct for me To those that are cōioyned in matrimony saith he not I command but the Lord that the wife depart not from her husband And if man and wife for a time depart he willeth thē to come together againe least the diuell tempt them Thirdly the practise of the church proueth that I haue said true Scelus est saith Chrysostome homil 63. in Math. 19. in duo diuidere vnam carnē sic et mulierē a suo viro diripere iniquissimum est So likewise saith Theophylact. Si●ut impiū est suā carnem diuidere ita et coniuges diuellere He sayth It is a wicked thing to separate married folks Fourthly reason sheweth that if mariage be a knot indiuisible that maried folks cannot be vpon pleasure sundered that it is a presūption intollerable for the Pope to dissolue mariage whose institution is from God Finally it appeareth by Bellarmines dispute de Monachis c. 37. who handling this point with more cunning then this poore swad yet is not able to proue that maried couples were separated for religion in auncient time or that this practise was conformable to Christes or his Apostles doctrine as I haue verified against Bellarmine in my treatise de Monachis As for the exāples testimonies alledged by Owliglasse they eyther are from the purpose or make against him Neither Epiphanius nor Hierome saith that maried folks vsed not to be admitted vnto holy orders except they did promise perpetual continency frō their wiues as Owliglasse with his glassy conscience affirmeth for neyther of them hath one word of promise or vow but the contrary rather Haeres 59. Ad huc viuentē et liberos gignentem vnius vxoris virū saith Epiphanius non suscipit ecclesia sed eum qui se ab vna continuit He hath not one word of any promise nor doth he deny that priests may returne backe againe to company with their

scripturarum solertissimus indagator authoritatem sequatur inter quas sane illae sunt quas apostolica sedes habere ab ea alij meruerunt accipere epistolas Where these last wordes ab ea alij are foisted in and thereupon in the rubrike they affirme that the Popes decretale epistles are to be reckened among canonicall scriptures and that they go about to prooue most falsely by the testimony of S. Augustine that doth not so much as speake one word of the popes decretale epistles falsification 28 The Fathers assembled in Trullo say that Iames and Basil 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is in the holy ministration of the Lords supper taught that the cuppe was filled with wine and water But the papists make them say that Iames and Basil did deliuer vnto vs missae celebrationem that is the first forme of celebrating masse as they expound it falsification 29 C. species de consecrat dist 1. there is a place alleadged out of Gregory homil paschali but falsely falsification 30 Likewise C. vtrum de consecrat dist 2. is pretended to be taken out of Saint Augustine yet the wordes are not found in Saint Augustine as they are there set downe falsification 31 C. in Christo de consecrat dist 2. is otherwise set downe then in Hilary from whence the place is said to be taken In the same chapter these wordes corpus Christi quod sumitur de altari and these which followe are also foisted into Hilary falsification 32 Into the wordes of consecration of the cuppe in the very canon they haue thrust in these wordes aeterni mysterium fidei falsification 33 Vnder the names of Fathers they haue set vs out a number of treatises vnworthy of the Fathers learning or pietie Vnder the name of Clement they haue published diuers constitutions by him affirmed to be apostolicall Of like stampe also are Clements fabulous recognitions yet Gelasius doth place those constitutions among apocryphall writings Tertullians and Origens tractates are often alleadged by papists yet doth Gelasius note them as bookes corrupted Vnder the title of Martialis Africanus Amphilochius Prochorus and such like auncient writers they alleadge most vaine and idle Pamphlets neither sauouring of the pietie of those fathers nor bearing the state of the times wherein those Fathers liued Vnder the name of Cyprian are these treatises published De montibus Sion Sinah de reuelatione capitis beati Ioannis de singularitate clericorū de cardinalibus operibus Christi de laude Martyrij de disciplina bono pudicitiae epistola ad Nouatianum sermones aliquot orationes duae which by diuers arguments appeare not to belong to Cyprian In the booke of the Reuelation of S. Iohns head there is mention made of king Pipin that liued diuers hundreth yeares after Cyprian and in this our opinion not onely Erasmus but diuers other authenticall writers concurre with vs. Vnder the name of Hierome there are also extant diuers counterfeit treatises as first a sermon de assumptione B. Mariae virginis 2. a treatise de septem gradibus ecclesiae wherein the author reckeneth bishops for a distinct order from priests and leaueth out exorcistes 3. a treatise intituled laus virginitatis 4. de attributis dei ex scripturis 5. certaine sermons vpon principall feasts 6. de vinculis beati Petri. 7. de diuersis generibus leprarum 8. regula monachorum à Lupo quodam tempore Martini quinti collecta 9. ad Tyrasium de morte filiae 10. ad oceanum de ferendis opprobrijs 11. de vita clericorum 12. epistola Damasi ad Hieronymum Hieronymi ad Damasum 13. Catalogus ad Desiderium 14. de virtute Psalmorum 15. de oblationibus altaris ad Damasum 16. regula monacharum 17. de natiuitate Mariae and other treatises Vnder the name of S. Augustine we haue certaine sermons de tempore de sanctis ad fratres in eremo which both stile matter and other circumstances shewe not to be his There are also meditations and soliloquies ascribed to him but most vnworthy to beare his name In the meditations hee establisheth the worship of angels which in his booke of heresies he reputeth to be an heresie that booke I haue séene vnder the name of Anselmus yet vnworthy the learning of Anselmus in the soliloquies we reade the fable of Longinus Beside that both these bookes in stile and grace sauour nothing lesse then of Augustines spirit In the Manual that goeth vnder Augustines name beside much foolery there is plaine heresie In the 16. chapter he sheweth that it is in mans power to merit the kingdome of heauen which is Pelagianisme and a saying of S. Augustine in diuers places refuted Beside that the termes sauour of a scholasticall veine The bookes called scalae paradisi de duodecim abusionum generibus de contritione cordis de cognitione verae vitae de speculo de vita christiana de assumptione beatae Mariae de contemptu mundi de vanitate seculi de obedientia humilitate de bono disciplinae de visitatione infirmorum de consolatione mortuorum de quarta feria de tempore barbarico de cataclysmo de sobrietate virginitate speculum peccatoris de vtilitate poenitentiae de quatuor virtutibus charitatis and diuers other set out vnder his name are manifestly to be prooued not to be his and that not onely by the testimony of learned men but also by the stile circumstances of the time the monastical and grosse veine of the authors and diuers other notes Vnder the name of Basil and Chrysostome they haue set out not onely commentaries and masses but also epistles and sermons whereof some are no where to bee found in Greeke the rest sauour rather of a frier like veine then of those two fathers spirit And the like they haue done vnder the names of the rest of the fathers But as it is forgerie to father bastards vpon wrong fathers so it is forgery and great wrong to set out such base stuffe vnder the name of fathers And this may be gathered out of the lawe qui falsam ff ad l. cornel de falsis l. cum suppositi Cod. etiam ad l. cornel de falsis Likewise if it be falshood to giue vs base mettall for golde and to pare true coyne as appeareth by the lawe quicunque nummos ff ad leg Cornel. de falsis then is it likewise falshood to giue vs base stuffe for the writings of the fathers Herein they doe also commit another point of falshood for hauing themselues abused the names of fathers they by all meanes endeuour to suppresse the originall writings of the Gréeke fathers Posseuin in his rapsody which he entituleth bibliothecam selectam albeit it is rather bibliotheca scelesta perswadeth all that haue gréeke copies to kéepe them from the sight of students in diuinity Bellarmine also and Baronius and diuers others confesse sometimes both bookes and decretal epistles set out vnder the names of

c. 24. that our Sauiour Christ appeared to the eyes of mortall men in the formes of bread and wine A matter neuer vttered nor thought of by S. Augustine nor to be found in that place or otherwhere in his writings falsification 28 Speaking of S. Augustine he saith that in his 12. booke contra Faustum c. 10. he teacheth that the faithfull receiue that bloud with their mouth wherewith they were redeemed And in the 20. chapter of the same booke that they drinke that which issued out of Christ his side But S. Augustine hath not one word of receiuing of the bloud of our redemption with our mouth neither doth he meane that we doe properly and carnally drinke his bloud or with corporeall instruments falsification 29 Out of Hesychius lib. 2. in Leuit. cap. 8. he quoteth these wordes lib. 2. de eucharistia c. 32. sanctum altare esse locum vbi sanctus sanctorum requiescit but the same are falsely fathered vpon that father being neither to bee found in that chapter nor otherwhere falsification 30 Lib. 1. de missa c. 19. Out of Chrysostomes homil 79. ad populum Antioch he citeth these wordes altari assistens sacerdos pro terrarum orbe pro episcopis pro ecclesia pro gubernantibus ecclesiam iubetur deo offerre but Chrysostome hath no such wordes of the priests offering but saith that the people of Antioch doe pray for all these sortes of people falsification 31 Ibidem He affirmeth that Chrysostome homil 72. in Matth. saith that the eucharist is offered pro infirmis pro sanis pro terrae fructibus but he hath no such like wordes either there or any other place but he saith onely that we pray in the celebration of the eucharist for such as are possessed with diuels for sicke persons and such like falsification 32 Hippolytus in his oration of the ende of the world hath these wordes venite pontifices qui purè mihi sacrificium die noctéque obtulistis ac pretiosum corpus sanguinem meum immolastis mihi quotidie Bellarmine lib. 1. de missa c. 15. leaueth out these words qui purè mihi sacrificium die noctéque obtulistis least we should know that he speaketh of spiritual sacrifices not of the masse that is seldome said in the night falsification 33 Lib. 2. de missa c. 9. speaking of the multitude of priuate masses he endeuoureth to prooue the same by a most auncient custome as he saith and for this ende alleadgeth an epistle of Telesphorus and a testimony out of Gregory homil 8. in euangel but not only the epistle of Telesphorus is counterfeit but both the same and Gregories testimony is falsely alleadged for neither of them speake any one word of such a custome or of the custome of saying three masses in one night In the same place also prosper is falsely alleadged For he speaketh not one worde of offering one sacrifice twise in a short time falsification 34 To prooue the adoration of the sacrament lib. 4. de eucharist c. 29. he falsely alleadgeth Gregory Nazianzen in laudem Gorgoniae Cyrill of Hierusalem Catechis 5. mystagog Euseb Emissenus homil 5. de Paschate for not one of these speaketh one worde of adoration of the sacrament as hee affirmeth most falsely It were infinite to touch all the places falsified by Bellarmine and I suppose that these are more then our woodden Owlyglasse alias Woodward will answere And yet these are but falsifications of one kinde but he hath also runne into diuers other kindes of falsifications ff ad leg Cornel de falsis For whereas lawe doth declare them to be falsaries that shall either suborne false witnesses or father bastards vpon those who are not their true fathers or that shall in a testament adde a legacy supposed untruely to himselfe or that shall commit any falsehood about coynes or lawes it is an easie matter in euery of these points to charge Bellarmine with falsification For first he hath produced infinite false witnesses as for example Clement Martialis Anacletus Africanus Abdias Amphilochius Leontius Paulinus Simeon Metaphrastes and such like false compagnions that either write fables or take on them false names Secondly he hath fathered infinite base and paultry sermons and epistles and other treatises vpon Cyprian Athanasius Nazianzen Ambrose Hierome Chrysostome Augustine Cyrill and other fathers Thirdly he hath alleadged diuers counterfeit decretales vnder the name of Euaristus Telesphorus Alexander Marcellus Syricius Innocentius Gelasius and others wherein they mention diuers prerogatiues due to the Church of Rome and to themselues setting downe as it were false legacies with their owne false hands in false and forged testaments or recordes Fourthly for the originall scriptures he hath oftentimes alleadged apocryphall writings and the olde latine translation albeit differing from the originall text corrupting after a sort Gods eternall testament Fifthly for the pure writings of the fathers he hath oftentimes giuen vnto vs the drosse of Peter Lombard Thomas Aquinas and other schoolemen and with them hath also ioyned the corrupt testimonies of legends and such like trash Finally he hath cited infinit false canons and counterfeit councels and actes of councels And this I will iustifie by diuers thousands of examples if the woodden detector or any of his partakers will stand to the quarrel which he and Rob. Parsons haue begun I haue also in diuers treatises set out against Bellarmine discouered diuers thousands of his corruptions I hope therefore that our aduersary hereafter wil say that I haue not slandered that voluminous Cardinall Bellarmine especially when he shall haue perused the note following concerning his vntruthes and leasings Which now according to my promise I purpose sincerely and truely to deliuer CHAP. VII A note of certaine notorious vntruths and lies boldely auouched by Bellarmine NExt after falsifications we are to report some fewe vntruthes boldly auouched by Card. Bellarmine which albeit he vttered being yet in minoribus as they call it yet we are not therefore to estéeme them to be lesse materiall séeing hee is the Popes principall proctor falsification 1 Habemus in eodem testamento veteri saith he Heliam Helizeum ac filios prophetarum Lib. de Monach c. 5. sine vxoribus diuitijs in hoc mundo vixisse That is we learne in the same olde testament that Helias and Helizeus and the sons of the Prophets liued without wiues and riches in this world A plaine euident vntruth refuted by a plaine text of scripture 2. Reg. 4.1 where we reade how a certaine woman of the wiues of the Prophets cried to Elizeus there also we read that she had sons likewise I doubt not therefore but Owlyglasse will confesse this to be a lie falsification 2 Likewise in the same place he affirmeth that almost all the fathers write that Iohn Baptist was the first founder of monks and eremites Ioannem Baptistam saith he Ibidem Monachorum Eremitarum principem fuisse scribunt ferè omnes patres and afterward he nameth