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A08891 The fal of Babel By the confusion of tongues directly proving against the Papists of this, and former ages; that a view of their writings, and bookes being taken; cannot be discerned by any man living, what they would say, or how be vnderstoode, in the question of the sacrifice of the masse, the reall presence or transubstantiation, but in explaning their mindes they fall vpon such termes, as the Protestants vse and allow. Further in the question of the Popes supremacy is shevved, how they abuse an authority of the auncient father St. Cyprian, a canon of the I Niceene counsell, and the ecclesiastical historie of Socrates, and Sozomen. And lastly is set downe a briefe of the sucession of Popes in the sea of Rome for these 1600 yeeres togither; ... By Iohn Panke. Panke, John. 1608 (1608) STC 19171; ESTC S102341 167,339 204

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that_o sacrifice_n which_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n 1400._o year_n before_o those_o of_o trent_n speak_v of_o be_v not_o so_o call_v proper_o &_o according_a to_o the_o rigour_n of_o the_o word_n with_o they_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v call_v a_o oblation_n for_o that_o it_o be_v a_o representation_n of_o christ_n death_n &_o sacrament_n have_v name_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o they_o signify_v &_o because_o the_o merit_n &_o fruit_n of_o christ_n passion_n be_v by_o the_o power_n of_o his_o spirit_n divide_v &_o bestow_v on_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n of_o these_o mystery_n thomas_n of_o aquine_n be_v in_o his_o time_n of_o great_a credit_n with_o they_o then_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n a._n acutè_fw-la diws_o thomas_n ut_fw-la omne_fw-la cam●_n rat_n 9_o argutissime_fw-la canus_n l._n 12_o to_o 408._o melius_fw-la diws_o thomas_n ut_fw-la omne_fw-la dixit_fw-la allen_n fol._n 419._o p._n 3._o q_o 83._o art_n i_o resp_v dicendum_fw-la 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his_o work_n he_o have_v speak_v something_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n do_v with_o shed_v of_o blood_n in_o his_o own_o person_n as_o the_o scripture_n witness_v come_v to_o show_v how_o he_o be_v handle_v in_o their_o mass_n say_v sacramental_o or_o in_o a_o mystery_n christ_n be_v offer_v up_o to_o his_o father_n in_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n true_o &_o indeed_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o offering_n but_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o very_a body_n &_o blood_n real_o present_a and_o after_o recitinge_v the_o word_n of_o the_o evangelist_n 22_o luc._n 22_o how_o that_o christ_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n take_v bread_n give_v thanks_n break_v it_o &_o say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n which_o be_v give_v for_o you_o and_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n which_o be_v shed_v for_o you_o in_o remission_n of_o sin_n out_o of_o which_o he_o will_v prove_v his_o sacrifice_n 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that_o which_o in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o this_o article_n he_o deliver_v which_o be_v that_o christ_n at_o the_o very_a same_o instant_n of_o time_n that_o he_o offer_v himself_o on_o the_o cross_n with_o shed_v of_o blood_n we_o must_v understand_v for_o a_o necessary_a point_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n that_o he_o offer_v himself_o invisible_o as_o concern_v man_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o his_o heavenly_a father_n bear_v the_o mark_n of_o his_o wound_n and_o there_o appear_v before_o the_o face_n of_o god_n with_o that_o thorn_n prick_v nail_n bore_v spear_n pierce_a &_o other_o wound_a rend_v &_o tear_a body_n for_o us._n here_o be_v 4_o sacrifice_n make_v of_o one_o the_o same_o christ_n sacrifice_v at_o his_o last_o supper_n the_o same_o christ_n on_o the_o cross_n the_o same_o christ_n at_o the_o same_o time_n sacrifice_v in_o heaven_n &_o the_o same_o christ_n sacrifice_v in_o the_o mass_n how_o m._n harding_n can_v bring_v christ_n sacrifice_v into_o heaven_n without_o 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they_o all_o there_o be_v no_o one_o that_o stand_v sure_a either_o to_o himself_o or_o to_o his_o fellow_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v judge_v the_o weakness_n of_o the_o cause_n which_o they_o maintain_v 601._o con●ut_o resp_n whitak_n rat_n 9_o sol_fw-la 601._o that_o cause_n they_o thus_o to_o stumble_v dureus_n the_o jesuite_n come_v to_o handle_v this_o matter_n against_o d_o whitaker_n say_v if_o christ_n testify_v that_o which_o he_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n be_v his_o body_n assure_o it_o can_v not_o be_v bread_n from_o whence_o it_o necessary_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o the_o bread_n which_o christ_n take_v into_o his_o hand_n be_v change_v into_o his_o body_n by_o the_o force_n and_o virtue_n of_o his_o divine_a word_n meum_fw-la ●oc_fw-la totam_fw-la nimirum_fw-la quam_fw-la manicus_fw-la tenebat_fw-la substantiam_fw-la demonstrans_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la accipit●_n inquit_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o comedite_fw-la take_v say_v christ_n &_o eat_v quid_fw-la 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