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A49979 News of a trumpet sounding in the wilderness, or, The Quakers antient testimony revived, examined and compared with itself, and also with their new doctrine whereby the ignorant may learn wisdom, and the wise advance in their understandings / collected with diligence, and carefully cited from their antient and later writings, and recommended to the serious reading and consideration of all enquiring Christians, by Daniel Leeds. Leeds, Daniel, 1652-1720. 1697 (1697) Wing L914; ESTC R11241 77,230 166

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not mortal So that VV. Penn in his Address to Protestants vaunts at the Priests for their Clink Clank And S. Fisher mocks at them for their SO NO But the Priests may now face about and vaunt at the Quakers for their Clink Clank and mock at them for their NO SO. Therefore behold the ingenious Figure of NO SO with some Verses that Sam. Fisher inserts in pag. 773. of Rusticus which are now pertinently truly and justly to be turned back again upon these Quakers viz. Sometimes it s this sometimes it s that Sometimes it s this and this and that Sometimes it s either this or that Sometimes it s neither this nor that One while it looks like SO not NO Another while like NO not SO One way it seems or SO or NO Another way nor NO nor SO Some ways it shews both SO and NO So 't is a meer Endless NO and SO. You have observed before the Clashes Contradictions Sayings Gainsayings false Doctrines of these men one contradicting the other and many times the same man contradicting himself So pray observe once more how G. Whitehead dances the Rounds as S. Fisher says in his Appendix to J. Owen For in his Introduction to Divinity of Christ he defines a Person to be a Man and a Man to be a Person And in Qrs. plainness p. 19. confesses Jesus Christ to be a Man but not a Person p. 23.24 Again That Jesus Christ is a Man whose glorious Body in Heaven is not a humane or mans Body yet as in Numb 35. declares it to be the same Body that dyed and yet deny● Christ to have the Body of Man Thus as S. Fisher says p. 773. Now it is One thing then Another And now and then nor t 'one nor t'other Numb 40. G F's Great My●t p 206 131 250. If Christ th●● crucified be not within that Christ that 's risen be not within If 〈◊〉 are all Reproba●es The Apostles preached Christ that 's crucified within and not another for the ●●the is the Antichrist And thou sayst thou are saved by Christ without the● and so hast recorded ●oy self a Reprobate A●● 〈◊〉 in the fancy that he out of the state of witnessing Christ that suffered within them and rose again Answ to Dr. Lancaster They own Christ that was crucified without the Gates did visibly ascend into Heaven and answ to W Harworth is in Heaven in a Body of Flesh circumscribed and not in every place where God is Note While they justifie their old Doctrine and the new not being free but streined out we must take it as G. W. tells F. B. That they may intend the same only now se●●● cause Otherwise to word it Numb 41. G W's Light Life of Christ p. 58. he there defend this Passage viz The Blood that was forced out of him Christ by the Souldier after he was dead was no more than the Blood of another Saint Ans to Dr. Lancaster The whole sacrifice of Christ whereof his Blood outwardly shed was a part was of great price with God for mans Redemption Note the Contradiction or the Craft Numb 42. Ibid. Light and Life p. 38. The Quakers see no need of directing men to the Type for the Anti-Type viz. neither to the outward Temple nor to Jerusalem either Jesus Christ or his blood knowing that neither the Righteousness of Faith nor the Word of it doth so direct And where do the Scriptures say the Blood was there shed for Justification and that men must be directed to Jerusalem to it Ans to Dr. Lancaster We sincerely believe in Jesus Christ as born of the Virgin Mary Christs Blood that was shed without the Gates of Jerusalem with the whole Sacrifice of himself both Soul Body was a true Propitiation through Faith c. Note here G. W. s●●h opposing his Old Doctrine now sees cause to word the matter Otherways Numb 43. J. W's Refuge fixt p. 90. I have several times saith he denyed that Christ hath now a Body of Flesh and Bones circumscript or limitted in that Heaven which is out of every man on Earth Let these 2 Brother Whiteheads reconcile their Doctrine Ans to W. Harworth as above at Numb 34 35 G. W. declares the same body of Christ which was put to death ascerced into Heaven and is still in being though made spiritual yet a circumscribed Body not in every place where God is Numb 44. G. W's Light Life p. 39 47. As for those Expressions saith he God Man being born of Mary we do not find them in the Scriptures nor do we read that Mary was the Mother of God but in the Popes Canons c. What Non-sence and Vnscriptural Language is this to tell of God being to Creator with the Father or that God had Glory with God! doth not this imply two Gods or that God had a Father Ans to Dr. Lancaster as above We believe in Jesus Christ both as he is true God and perfect Man and a● he was conceived by the holy ghost born of the Virgin Mary Note here G. W. in contradiction to himself owns Mary to be the Mother of God-Man and God to be his Father And if he implys two Gods thereby I cannot help it seeing he now sees cause so to word the matter Numb 45. G. W's Qrs. plainness p ●9 That Jesus Christ is come in the flesh That he is God-man c. Note how inconsistent G. W. is with himself he Quarrels with the word God-man before but here he uses it Numb 46. G. F's Great Mystry p 289 God was in Christ and they are one the Creator the Father in the Son and the Son in the Father and Christ in you and God in Christ the Creator And in Qrs. plainness p. 24. G. W there says The Son is co-worker with the Father Light and Life as before what Non-sense is this says G. W. to tell of God being co-Creator with the Father Note Does not G. W. here accuse both G. F. and himself also with Non-sense for what 's the difference between Co-worker and Co-Creator Numb 47. Paper against J. ● London 6 m. 1670 And we also testifie That ● any Person whatsoever shall act or speak any thing that is evil under pretence of a motion from the Spirit of God we utterly deny that Motion to be of God G F's Great Mystry p. 77. And as for any being moved of the Lord to take your i.e. Priests Hour-glass from you by the eternal Power it is owned Note here the Father G. Fox Justifies what is Fellony by the Law But his London Children are so bold as to controul him Numb 48. If Pennington's Que. p 33 Now the Scriptures do expresly distinguish between Christ the Garment which he wore between him that came and the body in which he came between the Substance which was vailed and the Vail which vailed it there was plainly HE and the Body in-which HE came this we certainly know and can
offered but could not afterwards swallow down all Doctrines that I heard them preach without examination as found most did though my Vnderstanding was much darkened by their turning the Scriptures into Allegories yet as apt as others I was to take up a rest in the establisht form set up amongst us and I thought I was happy and safe in thus keeping my self within the Pale of the Church and the rather because the Preachers oft brought Scripture to shew That such as were luke-warm in their Profession God would spew them out But Experience hath since shewed me That their Mis●application of this Scripture has proved a stratagem of Satan only in drive People into Form For the Consciences of my old Friends are my Record this day That mary in their Church have been ill Persons who at the same time have not wanted heat of Zeal for the Form and for Vnity of Friends and so far my Experience agrees with W. Penn's Doctrine in his Address to Protestants p. 177. 'T is not to be saved says he to be within the Pale of any visible Church for that is putting an eternal Cheat upon our selves Ill Things are Ill Things within or without the Pale that matters not So I also find That Good Things are Good Things within or without the Pale that matters not for Scripture and Church History sh●w● That many times single Persons have been in the right when gathered Churches and Congregations have been wrong Examples of this we have in all Ages But passing on to the Year 1691. when Differences arose at Philadelphia between George Keith and others from his being accused to preach Two Christs because ●e preached Faith in Christ without us as well as within and I giving diligent ●●ed to the Points controverted my Understanding and Intellect was quickly enlarged and the Thoughts of my former Vision of Christ descending from Heaven attended me and my Zeal and Faith in Christ was increased and divers Scripture Mysteries were then opened to me to my great Satisfaction which I never before could attain to And I began to find a Call within me To be active in the station and Capacity wherein God had put me Wherefore I set a Resolution to Search and Try things for my self and not to believe on trust or because others did Well accordingly I searcht our Friends Books to see if those various Reports were true or false and having by diligence received Satisfaction therein I could not find ease in my brest without taking the Opportunity that God by his Providence affords me thus to Expose at a Publish what here follows believing that God Almighty will bless my Endeavours to those who are desirous to see for themselves and to try all things in regard I know my proceeding herein was by a Motion heavenly above Self-will my self having forget against the Publication hereof near two Years under divers Tentations being not insensible what Suffering I may hereby outwardly incur but a peaceful Conscience I esteem above all Now an Objection falls in my way which I have heard my Old Fri●nds make viz. That faith in Christ as without us is only a Notional Historical Faith the Professors Faith which we were taught when Children and is no saving Faith I Answ And in true Experience I affirm That 't is the very same at this day of the Light within and I appeal to all their own Consciences whether there is not many now amongst them that have the like Belief in this inward Manifestation of the Light and yet know not the Work of Regeneration And it was worthily observed of Calvin as cited in one of their own Books entituled Righteous Judgment p. 128. viz. That Calvin inclined to the Divinity of the Light in men universally but a little shy of speaking more positively for fear of abuse by Phanaticks Behold now this great Reformer had a perfect sence how men might run into Abuses by high pretences to Light and Spirituality And whether what that great Reformer feared in that Age be not come to pass now in this Age I leave to the judgment of the Impartial Reader of the ensuing Book Lastly We have account from England That since G. Keith's arrival there the Doctrine of Christ crucified and faith in him as without men is now frequently preached by the Quakers causing many to say That if ever Christ was preached out of Envy now is the time as we read some did in the Apostles days hence 't is not impossible but in time they may come to preach that Doctrine in true love and so confess that George Keith has been the greatest Instrument in Gods hand of good to the Quakers that ever yet arose amongst them But by the Complaint that their Friend A. Hulins lately made to their Mens Meeting at Burlington by a Paper given in under his hand it appears that the Preachers about Delaware are not yet come so far as to preach such Doctrine out of Envy much less for love For the satisfaction of some I shall here an abstract of his give own words as I have it by me under his hand viz. Friends and Brethren It being my l●t to be disowned the 3d of November last by Samuell Jenings Mahlen Stacy and George Grey with whose leave I make my Address to this Meeting shewing the cause c. One preached thus It is the Work of the Devil to cause People that have profest the Appearance of Christ in the heart to respect the Person without them Another preached thus I am grieved that any that have profest the Light should now direct the Minds of People to respect him as he is now in Heaven above the Clouds Truly Friends it is Delusion Another preached thus There is that would have Flesh added in the Creed but let them take it that will I believe the Lord will give them his Plagues and Torments with it If these things are owned by you I remain Your Disowned Brother Abr. Hulings Now who would think any other but that this Quakers Church at Burlington should condemn such Doctrine as this No but this they did not do but gave A. Hulings his Paper again without any Answer Why if they had done otherwise they had not acted agreeable to their Brethren at Philadelphia some time before For there is one John Humphery a Preacher near Philadelphia that writes a Letter against G. K. and his Friends wherein he has this Expression I am grieved to hear some say they expect to be justified by that Blood that was shed at Jerusalem In justification of which Passage he writes in another Letter thus viz. His Christ's own words will clear me from your aspersion John ● 63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth Nothing So he himself ascribes the work of mans Salvation and Sanctification Not to the Flesh that suffered but to the Spirit that quickened Not to the Blood that was shed at Jerusalem but unto that Flesh and Blood which is
Counterfeit Convert by G. Whithead p. 72. I may see cause Othe ways to word the matter yet our Intentions be the same Great Mystery by G Fox I am not the Man that gives out things to lay open Wickednesses but that Men may take warning and fear and come to know themselves T. Ellwoods Epist to Friends p. 72. The way to recover the deceived is to discover lay open and witness against the Deceivers NEWS of A TRUMPET Sounding in the WILDERNESS OR The Quakers Antient Testimony Revived Examined and Compared with it self and also with their New Doctrine Whereby the Ignorant may learn Wisdom and the Wise advance in their Understandings Collected with Diligence and carefully cited from their Antient and Later Writings and Recommended to the serious Reading and Consideration of all Enquiring Christians by Daniel Leeds Prov. 27. v. 5. Open Rebuke is better than secret Love Printed and Sold by William Bradford at the Bible in New-York 1697. Friendly Reader THere has happened some Errors in printing the following treatise occasioned partly by my distance from the Press and partly by reason of its being thronged with other Work But the chief of them are here noted which the Reader is desired to observe in reading and particularly one above the rest it is in pag. 11. 2d collumn at the end of 8th line these following words are left out which the Reader is desired to add viz. And his Flesh and Blood and Bones are of his Nature for Isaac Pennington's words are these viz. For that which he Christ took upon him was our Garment even the flesh and blood of our Nature which is of an earthly perishing Nature but he is of an eternal Nature and his flesh and blood and bones are of his Nature The rest are escapes of less Note which follow viz. Page 4. line 23. blot out but. p. 10. l. 10 for 83 read 283. p. 26. l. 10. read so that as W. P. p. 38. l 1. for as above r. before at Numb 27. p 52. l. 17. read deny Christ to be God and Man p. 54. l. 10. f. 10. r. 107. p. 58. l. 3. r. lugg p. 72. l. 6. f. and r. or p. 74. l. 9 r. knaw p. 78. l. 15. r. cutting p. 106. l. 24. r. if p. 107. l. 26. for 5.13 read 513. p. 110. l. 20. r. fears p. 111 l. 11. r. falsly p. 130. l. 7. f. after ● a few p. 133 ●2 r. eternal God The PREFACE NOtwithstanding the ensuing Treatise seems to render the People called Quakers not only Hetrodox in their Doctrines but Vnconstant and Hypocritical therein also yet it is my real belief That the Quakers at first came forth in Life and Power and made a good beginning ‖ Indeed so did most of Sects in Christendom according to what was made manifest to them Yet nevertheless by reading their Books of Contrversie 't is easily ●een how the Life and Power that formerly attend●d them did more and more vanish as they fell to contending with one another about Trifles and Ceremonies instituting this and that Order and getting ●nto Form and this some of themselves did formerly ●iscern They at first came forth in Power at ●ast settled down in Form And yet I am livingly ●nsible that there are many yea very many honest ●incere hearted People among the Quakers even among those who are Opp●sers of George Keith and 〈◊〉 late Seperates And therefore God forbid that ●●y Design should be other than that the Haughtiness of the Proud in Spirit should be abased and ●abels Buildings overturned c. And when my Intentions were first see on this ensuing Work I had taken G. K's Books in equally with the rest or else I should have been partial as Caleb Pusey has been being blinded with Prejudice as his Term is in only faulting G. K's Books but not his Opposers but as I proceeded on at length I found G K. according to the Example of good men ●n all Ages has publickly acknowledged himself guilty of Errors in divers of ●is former Books and promised a Correction of the same and now of late we have his Retracta●on come over in Print And I would to God his Opposers had been as sensible of this great discovering Day to have made the like Confession and so at once have laid the Controversie in the Dust and thereby have stopt this from ever seeing the light which would have been matter of joy to me and all concerned in this Controversie who have a true Zeal for God and his Truth For as I have from my Youth been trained up in the Quakers Discipline so it has been the goodness of God to me to incline my Mind to seek after him and that with a Desire after Knowledge lest my Zeal should only proceed from Ignorance And it still remaining in my Memory That when I was scarce seven Years old my Mother being Religious used to take me aside to pay to God with her upon my Knees but soon after she turned to the Quakers and then I heard no more of that kind of Exercise Yet at Twelve Years of Age the God of Heaven visited me and made me sensible of Eternity and I ●ad then a Vision of Christ coming down from Heaven which was Wonderful but I calling to my Mother to behold the Glory the Vision vanished Again at Twenty Years of Age I was afresh turned to Religion often weeping in secret places because of sin till at length I was meditating on a place of Scripture I was suddai●ly surrounded with Glory and with Soul Ravishments of Love and Joy in so sweet and ravishing a manner as no Pen can or ought to describe or Tongue declare with which I have also some time since been visited And I being a Hearer and F●llower of those Ministers of the Church of England who had the best Name among the People did at last take a disti●● of them by a story one of them told in his Sermon which I telling to my Parents they soon prevailed with me to go with them to their Friends Meetings which I no sooner did but their Ministry had such effect upon me that I was constrained to believe what they preached was Infallible even as the Oracles of God till on a time at a Meeting where Giles Barnadiston and Sam Cater preaching I observed a Contradiction in their Doctrine Which Clash together with bitter Reflections that I saw between two Elders in the Mens Metting not long after ●ave the first stroke to my former Faith of our Friends being led by the Vnerring Spirit and put me ●e upon pensive Thoughts concerning them but I kept these things to my self At length concluding that all other Societies that I knew had also their failings and being joyned along with my Parents to the Quakers and being trained up in their Discipline Resolved to sit down content and bear these things so long as I could feel my heart in a m●lting posture at all Opportunities