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the_o only_a essential_a matter_n whereby_o the_o order_n of_o priesthood_n be_v confer_v 1._o morinus_n direct_o say_v it_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o other_o matter_n the_o delivery_n of_o the_o chalice_n and_o patten_n which_o he_o exclude_v from_o be_v a_o essential_a matter_n for_o the_o same_o two_o reason_n i_o have_v lay_v down_o which_o he_o say_v be_v plain_a demonstration_n against_o it_o bonaventure_n petrus_n sotus_n and_o becanus_n the_o jesuit_n who_o also_o deny_v this_o matter_n to_o be_v essential_a i_o have_v already_o make_v mention_n of_o 1.2_o hallier_n the_o learned_a sorbonist_n i_o have_v afore_o cite_v be_v very_o large_a to_o prove_v that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n can_v only_o be_v the_o essential_a matter_n of_o priestly_a ordination_n for_o the_o first_o 800_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o at_o length_n conclude_v his_o discourse_n concern_v it_o with_o these_o word_n 5._o diuturno_fw-la tempore_fw-la tam_fw-la in_o orientali_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o occidentali_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la retentum_fw-la ut_fw-la hierarchici_n ordines_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la &_o diaconorum_fw-la sola_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositione_n conferrentur_fw-la i_o e._n it_o be_v a_o long_a while_n retain_v both_o in_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n that_o the_o hierarchical_a order_n that_o be_v the_o order_n of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n shall_v be_v confer_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n only_o and_o as_o low_o down_o as_o the_o year_n 1536._o a_o council_n then_o hold_v at_o cologne_n speak_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o the_o only_a rite_n whereby_o order_n be_v administer_v the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n be_v 1._o impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la esse_fw-la ostium_fw-la per_fw-la quod_fw-la intrant_fw-la qui_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la gubernaculis_fw-la admoventur_fw-la i._n e._n that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v the_o door_n whereby_o those_o enter_v that_o be_v appoint_v to_o have_v the_o government_n of_o church_n and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o door_n whereby_o man_n enter_v into_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v plain_a enough_o it_o must_v be_v the_o only_a rite_n whereby_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o they_o for_o by_o the_o door_n only_o be_v it_o that_o man_n be_v admit_v into_o the_o house_n and_o thirteen_o year_n after_o another_o council_n hold_v at_o mentz_n say_v as_o full_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 25._o collationem_fw-la ordinum_fw-la cum_fw-la impositione_n manuum_fw-la velut_fw-la visibili_fw-la signo_fw-la tradi_fw-la i_o e._n that_o the_o collation_n of_o order_n be_v deliver_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o the_o visible_a sign_n by_o which_o word_n 42._o say_v vasquez_n seem_v to_o be_v denote_v that_o the_o visible_a sign_n in_o which_o this_o sacrament_n do_v consist_v and_o by_o virtue_n of_o which_o the_o power_n and_o the_o grace_n be_v confer_v be_v in_o imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o arcudius_n be_v most_o express_a in_o this_o 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which_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o make_v use_v of_o to_o prove_v a_o divine_a institution_n be_v able_a to_o make_v it_o out_o unto_o we_o that_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o chalice_n and_o patten_n in_o ordination_n be_v such_o the_o consequence_n be_v plain_a that_o that_o rite_n can_v never_o be_v a_o sacramental_a sign_n which_o have_v grace_n annex_v thereto_o and_o consequent_o the_o sacramental_a grace_n which_o they_o will_v have_v to_o belong_v to_o order_n can_v be_v give_v by_o that_o rite_n with_o what_o form_n of_o word_n soever_o it_o be_v administer_v but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n at_o all_o belong_v to_o order_n as_o that_o grace_n which_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v it_o a_o sacrament_n as_o our_o adversary_n say_v and_o we_o deny_v it_o must_v only_o be_v annex_v to_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o give_v by_o no_o other_o word_n than_o that_o form_n with_o which_o it_o be_v join_v receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o sin_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o even_a their_o own_o council_n of_o trent_n seem_v plain_o to_o say_v for_o in_o one_o of_o its_o canon_n it_o decree_v 3._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la per_fw-la sacram_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la non_fw-la dari_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la ac_fw-la proinde_fw-la frustra_fw-la episcopos_fw-la dicere_fw-la accipe_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la anathema_n sit_v i._n e._n if_o any_o one_o shall_v say_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o give_v by_o holy_a order_n and_o therefore_o that_o the_o bishop_n say_v in_o vain_a receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v which_o word_n manifest_o annex_v the_o grace_n which_o they_o will_v have_v give_v by_o this_o their_o sacrament_n to_o the_o latter_a form_n only_o and_o so_o banne_v a_o eminent_a writer_n of_o their_o own_o church_n understand_v they_o for_o say_v he_o 9_o ibi_fw-la concilium_fw-la declarat_fw-la tunc_fw-la ordinari_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la &_o tunc_fw-la dari_fw-la illis_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la cum_fw-la iis_fw-la dicitur_fw-la accipe_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n the_o council_n there_o declare_v that_o then_o the_o priest_n be_v ordain_v and_o then_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v unto_o they_o when_o it_o be_v say_v unto_o they_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n 3._o the_o first_o form_n can_v be_v a_o essential_a form_n according_a to_o their_o own_o position_n because_o from_o they_o it_o must_v necessary_o follow_v that_o that_o form_n can_v only_o be_v essential_a by_o which_o the_o character_n be_v give_v but_o the_o character_n of_o priesthood_n can_v be_v give_v by_o the_o first_o form._n for_o say_v vasquez_n 19_o gratia_n collata_fw-la ex_fw-la virtute_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la &_o character_n simul_fw-la dantur_fw-la ut_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o confesso_fw-la est_fw-la i._n e._n the_o grace_n which_o be_v confer_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o character_n be_v give_v together_o as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o all_o and_o therefore_o if_o the_o sacramental_a grace_n which_o they_o will_v have_v confer_v at_o their_o ordination_n of_o priest_n can_v according_o to_o their_o own_o doctrine_n be_v give_v by_o the_o first_o form_n in_o their_o ordinal_n as_o i_o have_v already_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o it_o can_v neither_o can_v the_o character_n of_o priesthood_n be_v give_v by_o it_o beside_o the_o character_n as_o they_o define_v it_o be_v 9_o a_o spiritual_a sign_n imprint_v on_o the_o soul_n and_o of_o itself_o indivisible_a it_o can_v be_v give_v by_o half_n one_o part_v of_o it_o by_o the_o first_o matter_n and_o form_n and_o the_o other_o part_n of_o it_o by_o the_o second_o matter_n and_o form_n but_o must_v be_v imprint_v all_o at_o once_o and_o therefore_o if_o they_o will_v have_v two_o essential_a matter_n and_o two_o essential_a form_n join_v to_o they_o in_o the_o ordination_n of_o priest_n they_o must_v also_o allow_v two_o character_n to_o be_v imprint_v by_o they_o on_o the_o person_n ordain_v as_o 5._o ferdinando_n de_fw-fr castro_n palao_n for_o this_o reason_n do_v or_o else_o if_o they_o will_v allow_v but_o one_o character_n only_o to_o that_o order_n as_o be_v the_o current_a doctrine_n of_o their_o church_n they_o must_v also_o allow_v but_o one_o essential_a matter_n and_o form_n whereby_o it_o be_v to_o be_v imprint_v and_o if_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o two_o matter_n which_o of_o they_o must_v be_v that_o whereby_o this_o be_v do_v whether_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o be_v first_o practise_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o have_v ever_o since_o be_v use_v in_o all_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n through_o all_o age_n and_o in_o all_o place_n as_o every_o one_o know_v or_o else_o that_o other_o rite_n the_o delivery_n of_o the_o chalice_n and_o patten_n which_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o in_o any_o church_n for_o near_a a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o at_o present_a be_v make_v 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