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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d man_n of_o no_o good_a conscience_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o beside_o the_o coherence_n former_o note_v it_o be_v plain_a that_o even_o presbyter_n also_o be_v include_v because_o he_o speak_v of_o assembly_n which_o can_v not_o be_v celebrate_v without_o some_o act_n of_o priestly_a power_n and_o if_o such_o assembly_n be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o command_n nor_o the_o rule_n of_o good_a conscience_n how_o your_o proceed_n without_o the_o consent_n or_o privity_n of_o your_o bishop_n can_v be_v excusable_a i_o do_v not_o understand_v in_o the_o epistle_n ad_fw-la trallian_n after_o have_v enjoin_v respect_n to_o all_o the_o three_o order_n he_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 17._o whence_o you_o may_v easy_o conclude_v his_o thought_n concern_v such_o assembly_n which_o be_v maintain_v without_o one_o of_o they_o that_o be_v of_o episcopacy_n as_o they_o must_v needs_o be_v who_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o act_v independent_o on_o their_o 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not_o i_o that_o must_v be_v responsible_a at_o least_o for_o the_o application_n if_o therefore_o he_o will_v not_o make_v they_o less_o concern_v than_o it_o be_v their_o interest_n to_o be_v in_o case_n of_o real_a danger_n let_v he_o first_o secure_v they_o from_o the_o danger_n by_o a_o conviction_n of_o my_o principle_n which_o when_o he_o do_v he_o will_v have_v i_o as_o well_o as_o they_o indebt_v to_o he_o for_o the_o obligation_n till_o he_o do_v so_o certain_o plain_a deal_n and_o a_o fair_a warning_n be_v the_o most_o real_a office_n of_o friendship_n that_o can_v be_v show_v in_o case_n of_o danger_n i_o wish_v i_o may_v by_o this_o intimation_n prevail_v with_o whosoever_o shall_v hereafter_o trouble_v themselves_o to_o answer_v i_o not_o to_o satisfy_v themselves_o with_o invidious_a clamour_n and_o evasion_n of_o a_o direct_a answer_n to_o my_o principle_n a_o direct_a answer_n will_v better_o become_v they_o as_o lover_n and_o enquirer_n of_o truth_n rather_o than_o votary_n to_o a_o party_n will_v more_o tend_v to_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o conscientious_a dissenter_n will_v afford_v a_o better_a subject_n for_o useful_a information_n §_o x_o as_o for_o particular_n there_o be_v only_o two_o that_o i_o can_v know_v of_o in_o which_o indifferent_a friend_n do_v think_v i_o concern_v one_o be_v that_o he_o say_v and_o say_v it_o more_o than_o once_o that_o the_o generality_n of_o our_o saxon_a bishop_n derive_v their_o succession_n from_o aidan_n and_o finan_n who_o say_v he_o be_v no_o bishop_n as_o bede_n and_o other_o full_o testify_v so_o that_o he_o say_v history_n the_o deny_v the_o validity_n of_o the_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n shake_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o episcopal_a church_n of_o england_n and_o prove_v it_o on_o that_o supposition_n interrupt_v i_o know_v not_o how_o it_o become_v he_o who_o himself_o pretend_v episcopal_a ordination_n to_o discover_v his_o forefather_n nakedness_n 13_o if_o it_o have_v be_v true_a that_o be_v here_o suggest_v but_o not_o to_o expostulate_v with_o he_o concern_v the_o unkindness_n herein_o show_v to_o his_o ordainer_n what_o benefit_n can_v he_o do_v his_o own_o cause_n by_o this_o objection_n will_v it_o follow_v that_o his_o brethren_n have_v succession_n because_o we_o have_v fail_v of_o it_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o succession_n be_v not_o necessary_a because_o none_o can_v justify_v their_o claim_n by_o it_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n must_v in_o course_n be_v escheat_v to_o the_o presbytery_n or_o the_o people_n or_o the_o magistracy_n in_o case_n no_o right_n can_v now_o be_v make_v out_o by_o derivation_n from_o the_o apostle_n if_o succession_n be_v still_o necessary_a for_o the_o validity_n of_o order_n as_o it_o may_v be_v notwithstanding_o this_o argument_n till_o he_o answer_v the_o argument_n produce_v to_o prove_v it_o necessary_a all_o that_o he_o can_v expect_v by_o use_v such_o argument_n as_o these_o will_v be_v not_o to_o satisfy_v we_o but_o to_o prove_v we_o as_o faulty_a as_o themselves_o not_o to_o quiet_a the_o conscience_n of_o those_o who_o shall_v be_v afraid_a of_o sacrilegious_a ordinance_n but_o only_o to_o make_v they_o despair_v of_o ever_o be_v quiet_v and_o therefore_o this_o be_v a_o answer_n if_o at_o all_o fit_a to_o be_v insist_v on_o yet_o not_o till_o he_o have_v attempt_v a_o more_o particular_a answer_n but_o god_n be_v praise_v we_o have_v no_o need_n to_o be_v concern_v for_o this_o objection_n bede_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v aidan_n and_o finan_n to_o have_v be_v bishop_n as_o that_o he_o express_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a 5._o oswald_z king_n of_o northumberland_z send_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o scot_n for_o a_o bishop_n antistes_fw-la be_v the_o word_n in_o bede_n latin_a and_o biscop_n in_o the_o saxon_a of_o alfred_n according_o he_o receive_v pontificem_fw-la aidanum_n as_o the_o latin_a or_o biscop_n as_o it_o be_v again_o in_o the_o saxon._n when_o
assembly_n of_o 34._o man_n their_o prophesy_v as_o it_o shall_v seem_v like_o the_o sibyl_n with_o their_o hair_n 15._o dishevel_a and_o without_o their_o veil_n unbecoming_a the_o modesty_n of_o their_o sex_n how_o do_v the_o apostle_n provide_v to_o remedy_v these_o inconvenience_n but_o by_o oblige_v all_o to_o a_o strict_a dependence_n on_o their_o superior_n by_o oblige_v the_o prophet_n not_o to_o speak_v but_o in_o 31._o order_n not_o to_o use_v their_o gift_n but_o for_o 26._o edification_n not_o to_o use_v they_o 40._o indecorous_o to_o submit_v to_o the_o 29._o judge_n of_o their_o prophecy_n by_o restrain_v the_o woman_n universal_o from_o all_o 35._o public_a exercise_n of_o their_o gift_n a_o plain_a sign_n that_o the_o spirit_n who_o give_v those_o gift_n do_v not_o thereby_o exempt_a any_o who_o have_v they_o from_o their_o due_a subordination_n much_o less_o do_v thereby_o give_v they_o the_o govern_v power_n of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n as_o our_o brethren_n will_v fain_o persuade_v we_o this_o also_o be_v the_o great_a occasion_n of_o that_o schism_n which_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o s._n clement_n epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n and_o that_o not_o many_o year_n after_o this_o former_a have_v be_v write_v to_o they_o by_o s._n paul_n the_o gift_a brethren_n do_v then_o also_o assume_v and_o raise_v a_o sedition_n against_o the_o ordinary_a presbyter_n of_o that_o church_n and_o be_v again_o teach_v their_o duty_n of_o obedience_n humility_n and_o subjection_n through_o the_o whole_a current_n of_o that_o epistle_n how_o can_v that_o be_v if_o their_o very_a gift_n have_v make_v they_o presbyter_n when_o acknowledge_v as_o they_o be_v not_o here_o deny_v this_o very_a pretence_n therefore_o be_v particular_o and_o express_o disow_v by_o those_o very_a precedent_n to_o which_o our_o brethren_n do_v so_o eager_o appeal_v according_o they_o never_o find_v any_o of_o those_o officer_n xxvi_o to_o who_o succession_n be_v at_o present_a pretend_a make_v immediate_o by_o god_n but_o by_o the_o intervention_n of_o man_n notwithstanding_o that_o there_o be_v then_o gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n requisite_a to_o qualify_v man_n for_o those_o office_n there_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 8._o and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reckon_v among_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n which_o fit_v man_n for_o the_o office_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v also_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 7._o with_o other_o gift_n fit_v man_n for_o the_o office_n of_o deacon_n yet_o who_o see_v not_o this_o express_a difference_n between_o these_o and_o those_o extraordinary_a officer_n that_o these_o never_o so_o much_o as_o pretend_v to_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n without_o the_o mediation_n of_o man_n what_o great_a argument_n have_v it_o be_v for_o s._n paul_n to_o prove_v his_o apostleship_n by_o that_o he_o be_v not_o of_o man_n or_o by_o man_n if_o this_o be_v the_o ordinary_a case_n in_o the_o ordinary_a governor_n and_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n if_o all_o that_o man_n do_v be_v only_o a_o recognition_n of_o their_o gift_n and_o a_o solemn_a reception_n of_o their_o authority_n which_o be_v as_o requisite_a for_o apostle_n as_o ordinary_a bishop_n and_o deacon_n where_o do_v we_o find_v any_o of_o these_o ordinary_a officer_n make_v but_o there_o be_v express_a mention_n of_o man_n who_o lay_v on_o their_o hand_n and_o perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o that_o by_o a_o distinct_a imposition_n of_o hand_n from_o that_o whereby_o they_o then_o usual_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n immediate_o after_o their_o baptism_n and_o the_o word_n use_v concern_v it_o 23_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o same_o by_o which_o the_o give_v of_o authority_n 5._o even_o in_o secular_a office_n where_o authority_n be_v confess_o give_v be_v usual_o express_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o that_o age._n s._n timothy_n be_v say_v to_o have_v his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o s._n paul_n 6._o be_v say_v to_o have_v it_o give_v he_o among_o other_o thing_n by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 14._o what_o can_v be_v more_o clear_a than_o these_o word_n if_o they_o be_v understand_v of_o ordination_n and_o who_o be_v more_o forward_o to_o understand_v they_o so_o than_o our_o brethren_n when_o they_o be_v concern_v to_o produce_v precedent_n of_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n but_o i_o confess_v i_o be_o not_o myself_o very_o confident_a of_o that_o exposition_n the_o thing_n be_v clear_a enough_o from_o this_o new_a imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o be_v use_v on_o this_o occasion_n of_o ordain_v the_o ordinary_a officer_n of_o the_o church_n but_o not_o of_o the_o extraordinary_a when_o s._n mathias_n be_v choose_v apostle_n into_o the_o place_n of_o judas_n no_o more_o be_v do_v than_o only_o to_o know_v god_n pleasure_n concern_v it_o according_a to_o that_o ordinary_a way_n of_o divination_n usual_a in_o such_o case_n by_o lot_n when_o that_o be_v know_v there_o be_v no_o further_a act_n of_o man_n no_o imposition_n of_o hand_n only_o he_o be_v add_v to_o complete_a the_o number_n of_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n that_o more_o be_v observe_v in_o ordinary_a ordination_n 26._o why_o be_v it_o but_o to_o show_v that_o the_o influence_n of_o humane_a act_n be_v great_a in_o they_o beside_o xxvii_o the_o very_a ceremony_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v general_o design_v to_o communicate_v some_o of_o those_o supernatural_a gift_n wherewith_o they_o be_v themselves_o endue_v so_o it_o be_v in_o their_o cast_n out_o of_o devil_n and_o their_o cure_v the_o sick_a and_o particular_o so_o it_o be_v in_o their_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o indeed_o what_o other_o gift_n be_v imaginable_a that_o be_v ordinary_o necessary_a for_o ordain_v person_n themselves_o can_v think_v it_o can_v be_v dispossess_v or_o heal_v etc._n etc._n what_o can_v it_o therefore_o be_v but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n himself_o and_o what_o gift_n can_v be_v then_o think_v necessary_a for_o make_v ordinary_a officer_n but_o such_o as_o be_v ordinary_a and_o perpetual_a as_o the_o office_n themselves_o if_o therefore_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v this_o be_v according_a to_o the_o jew_n a_o invest_v they_o with_o power_n where_o he_o be_v give_v particular_o with_o such_o a_o design_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o 9_o saul_n and_o 14._o david_n and_o of_o the_o 21._o apostle_n themselves_o and_o what_o other_o design_n be_v conceivable_a in_o give_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o they_o who_o be_v suppose_v already_o to_o have_v receive_v he_o before_o in_o their_o baptism_n and_o that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o then_o usual_o accompany_v their_o baptism_n and_o if_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v in_o ordination_n then_o plain_o they_o have_v not_o all_o their_o gift_n antecedent_o to_o their_o ordination_n as_o our_o brethren_n conceive_v particular_o not_o those_o which_o immediate_o entitle_v they_o to_o ecclesiastical_a power_n if_o these_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o immediate_o entitle_v they_o to_o power_n be_v give_v they_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n then_o certain_o the_o power_n itself_o be_v not_o give_v they_o immediate_o by_o god_n but_o by_o humane_a ministry_n and_o therefore_o their_o antecedent_n gift_n which_o they_o judge_v of_o by_o the_o gift_n of_o discern_v of_o spirit_n do_v not_o immediate_o give_v they_o the_o power_n the_o great_a prejudice_n that_o possess_v our_o brethren_n against_o this_o power_n be_v thus_o give_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n xxviii_o be_v that_o conceive_v it_o to_o result_v from_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n they_o think_v it_o dishonourable_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o say_v that_o he_o be_v give_v by_o man_n but_o how_o can_v they_o deny_v those_o plain_a evidence_n of_o scripture_n wherein_o he_o be_v so_o frequent_o give_v by_o the_o apostle_n will_v not_o their_o conjecture_n reach_v they_o as_o well_o as_o our_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n now_o be_v not_o they_o man_n of_o the_o like_a frail_a sinful_a nature_n as_o we_o be_v now_o but_o if_o they_o will_v indeed_o consider_v how_o he_o do_v it_o what_o be_v there_o more_o dishonourable_a in_o this_o than_o in_o the_o whole_a management_n of_o the_o incarnation_n why_o may_v not_o god_n the_o father_n and_o son_n who_o gift_n undoubted_o he_o be_v give_v he_o by_o covenant_n as_o well_o as_o otherwise_o why_o may_v not_o himself_o do_v so_o too_o suppose_v they_o willing_a to_o take_v this_o way_n of_o dispose_n of_o he_o what_o can_v hinder_v they_o from_o depute_v man_n to_o represent_v they_o in_o the_o solemnity_n of_o such_o a_o covenant_n to_o be_v
for_o the_o reason_n produce_v by_o you_o seem_v to_o proceed_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o government_n in_o general_n and_o therefore_o must_v proceed_v with_o the_o same_o force_n in_o secular_o as_o ecclesiastical_n there_o be_v no_o ingredient_n peculiar_o relate_v to_o religion_n much_o less_o to_o christianity_n which_o may_v alter_v the_o case_n or_o argue_v a_o disparity_n for_o certain_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n be_v responsible_a for_o the_o miscarriage_n of_o their_o particular_a subject_n as_o far_o as_o they_o may_v be_v prevent_v by_o their_o moral_a diligence_n and_o yet_o you_o will_v not_o thence_o conclude_v that_o every_o particular_a must_v come_v under_o his_o immediate_a personal_a care_n and_o cognizance_n nor_o be_v it_o prove_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v otherwise_o oblige_v to_o such_o a_o care_n upon_o peculiar_a respect_n beside_o that_o it_o be_v plain_o against_o experience_n even_o in_o ecclesiastical_n for_o as_o it_o have_v fall_v out_o in_o 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