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A34335 The notion of schism stated according to the antients, and considered with reference to the non-conformists, and the pleas for schismaticks examined being animadversions upon the plea for the non-conformists : with reflections on that famous Tract of schism, written by Mr. Hales in two letters to a very worthy gentleman. Conold, Robert. 1676 (1676) Wing C5891; ESTC R11683 38,869 110

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