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B05064 A modest answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum: by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2223; ESTC R203177 121,671 175

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weight_n on_o this_o testimoney_n to_o the_o purpose_n it_o be_v bring_v for_o for_o either_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o degree_n of_o church-officer_n in_o respect_n of_o precedency_n be_v leave_v free_a or_o in_o respect_n of_o jurisdiction_n if_o the_o first_o it_o be_v nothing_o contrary_a to_o what_o we_o hold_v for_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o indifferent_a whether_o there_o be_v a_o stand_a precedent_n over_o presbytery_n or_o not_o if_o the_o second_o he_o be_v direct_o contrary_a to_o mr._n stillingfleet_n who_o maintain_v that_o the_o church_n may_v set_v up_o no_o new_a officer_n but_o what_o christ_n have_v institute_v as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o now_o a_o order_n of_o officer_n with_o jurisdiction_n above_o what_o christ_n have_v institute_v can_v but_o be_v a_o sort_n of_o officer_n that_o he_o have_v not_o institute_v wherefore_o mr._n still_o can_v not_o make_v use_v of_o this_o testimony_n neither_o aught_o any_o else_o for_o it_o cross_v the_o scripture_n which_o rom._n 12.6_o 7_o 8._o ephes_n 11.1_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o do_v on_o purpose_n enumerate_v the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o their_o degree_n i_o dispute_v not_o now_o what_o they_o be_v but_o sure_o they_o be_v not_o leave_v at_o liberty_n see_v the_o lord_n have_v so_o often_o declare_v his_o mind_n in_o this_o point_n to_o what_o purpose_n be_v it_o say_v that_o the_o lord_n have_v in_o his_o church_n such_o and_o such_o officer_n if_o man_n may_v at_o their_o pleasure_n set_v these_o or_o other_o more_o or_o few_o of_o they_o in_o the_o church_n sect._n 4._o his_o next_o testimony_n be_v the_o centuriator_n of_o magdeburge_n but_o it_o contain_v a_o answer_n in_o its_o forehead_n viz._n that_o it_o speak_v not_o to_o the_o thing_n for_o they_o say_v no_o more_o but_o that_o it_o be_v neither_o record_v nor_o command_v how_o many_o minister_n shall_v be_v in_o each_o church_n but_o that_o their_o may_v be_v more_o or_o few_o according_a to_o the_o number_n of_o the_o church_n what_o be_v this_o to_o their_o parity_n or_o impatity_n it_o be_v a_o token_n that_o he_o be_v very_o scant_o of_o witness_n when_o he_o call_v in_o they_o who_o say_v so_o little_a to_o his_o purpose_n the_o next_o testimony_n be_v of_o zanchy_a which_o he_o make_v to_o speak_v very_o fair_a for_o he_o but_o he_o have_v unhandsome_o conceal_v that_o which_o be_v the_o key_n to_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o this_o author_n for_o the_o reader_n may_v evident_o see_v his_o drift_n if_o he_o first_o look_n into_o sect._n 9_o de_o relig._n c._n 25._o where_o he_o assert_v that_o christ_n have_v only_o give_v to_o his_o church_n two_o fort_n of_o ordinary_a teacher_n viz._n pastor_n and_o doctor_n the_o same_o he_o assert_v sect._n 10._o and_o yet_o which_o be_v his_o modesty_n he_o will_v not_o condemn_v the_o father_n who_o have_v other_o order_n of_o officer_n but_o what_o his_o meaning_n be_v in_o this_o his_o condescendency_n he_o explain_v sect._n 11._o that_o 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sort_n viz._n pastor_n and_o doctor_n and_o ruling-elders_a who_o office_n he_o prove_v from_o scripture_n and_o assert_v as_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o reform_a divine_n general_o and_o deacon_n and_o have_v prove_v at_o length_n p._n 950_o 951_o 952._o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o scripture_n he_o show_v p._n 952_o 953._o that_o in_o after-age_n one_o of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v set_v over_o the_o rest_n but_o add_v to_o qualify_v it_o p._n 953._o idcirco_fw-la damnari_fw-la haec_fw-la piae_fw-la vetustatis_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la &_o consuetudo_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la modo_fw-la plus_fw-la sibi_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la non_fw-la usurpet_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quàm_fw-la habent_fw-la reliqui_fw-la ministri_fw-la ut_fw-la recte_fw-la monet_fw-la hieronymus_n here_o he_o overturn_v all_o mr._n stilling_n design_n for_o such_o a_o bishop_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a precedent_n he_o think_v he_o have_v gain_v another_o testimony_n from_o m._n bucer_n who_o zan._n 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divide_v among_o more_o where_o there_o be_v many_o officer_n in_o one_o church_n yet_o so_o as_o all_o may_v exercise_v all_o these_o duty_n and_o so_o here_o be_v no_o multiplication_n of_o office_n beyond_o christ_n institution_n though_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o this_o distribute_v of_o the_o work_n of_o minister_n do_v afterward_o begin_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o as_o make_v several_a order_n of_o officer_n but_o this_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v of_o the_o second_o testimony_n of_o bucer_n be_v out_o of_o his_o de_fw-mi discipl_n clerical_a the_o sum_n of_o which_o be_v this_o for_o the_o word_n be_v too_o long_o to_o be_v transcribe_v that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n they_o set_v up_o a_o bishop_n among_o the_o presbyter_n '_o ut_fw-la consul_n inter_fw-la senatores_fw-la this_o be_v devolve_v their_o power_n into_o his_o hand_n which_o mr._n still_o plead_v for_o that_o these_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n do_v meet_v when_o occasion_n require_v in_o synod_n that_o one_o 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be_v consider_v and_o we_o shall_v hope_v for_o more_o advantage_n by_o it_o than_o mr._n still_v can_v expect_v from_o it_o we_o draw_v these_o two_o conclusion_n 1._o that_o bucer_n look_v upon_o set_v up_o a_o precedent_n over_o presbyter_n as_o the_o great_a length_n that_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v or_o can_v go_v towards_o the_o make_n of_o imparity_n among_o minister_n 2._o that_o even_o this_o their_o practice_n though_o not_o unlawful_a in_o itself_o yet_o be_v so_o inconvenient_a that_o it_o be_v the_o method_n and_o mean_a that_o antichrist_n get_v into_o his_o chair_n by_o sect._n 5._o he_o come_v next_o to_o the_o french_a divine_n and_o begin_v with_o fregevile_n who_o testimony_n we_o think_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_v see_v as_o mr._n still_o confess_v he_o be_v episcopal_a his_o opinion_n do_v not_o suit_n well_o with_o the_o principle_n of_o that_o church_n he_o live_v in_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v after_o the_o next_o be_v blondel_n that_o learned_a writer_n for_o presbyter_n as_o he_o be_v call_v who_o word_n cite_v by_o mr._n still_o be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n as_o any_o may_v see_v at_o first_o view_n see_v he_o say_v no_o more_o but_z that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o church_n power_n to_o make_v a_o perpetual_a precedent_n or_o not_o for_o bochartus_fw-la his_o opinion_n that_o neither_o presbyterialis_fw-la nor_o episcopalis_fw-la ordo_fw-la be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la if_o he_o mean_v the_o difference_n between_o they_o in_o jurisdiction_n and_o not_o only_o in_o precedency_n i_o see_v not_o how_o it_o can_v be_v defend_v and_o not_o have_v his_o book_n i_o can_v determine_v how_o consistent_a it_o be_v with_o his_o own_o principle_n for_o amiraldus_n who_o he_o bring_v next_o his_o design_n of_o union_n with_o the_o lutheran_n i_o believe_v do_v either_o stretch_v his_o opinion_n or_o make_v he_o stretch_v his_o affection_n to_o a_o excess_n of_o condescendency_n which_o can_v be_v excuse_v but_o from_o his_o good_a intention_n sect._n 6._o our_o author_n come_v next_o to_o those_o who_o look_v on_o parity_n as_o the_o primitive_a form_n and_o yet_o allow_v episcopacy_n as_o a_o very_a lawful_a and_o useful_a constitution_n concern_v those_o i_o premise_v 2_o general_a remark_n 1._o that_o what_o these_o worthy_a divine_n say_v to_o this_o purpose_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v not_o of_o episcopus_fw-la princeps_fw-la but_o praeses_fw-la according_a to_o that_o distinction_n very_o common_a among_o they_o this_o we_o must_v hold_v as_o only_o consistent_a with_o their_o principle_n till_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o their_o own_o writing_n 2._o that_o many_o thing_n say_v by_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v the_o over_o reach_n of_o their_o desire_n to_o be_v one_o with_o they_o who_o differ_v from_o they_o in_o this_o but_o agree_v in_o most_o thing_n as_o the_o lutheran_n and_o some_o english_a divine_n they_o do_v often_o as_o smect_v say_v of_o spanhem_n to_o the_o same_o 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