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hieroms_n word_n for_o you_o have_v leave_v out_o his_o purpose_n and_o meaning_n i_o will_v set_v they_o down_o as_o they_o be_v in_o deed_n idem_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la presbyter_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o the_o minister_n 1._o heir_n ad_fw-la tit._n 1._o and_o bishop_n be_v all_o one_o and_o before_o that_o through_o the_o instinct_n of_o the_o devil_n there_o be_v division_n in_o religion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v say_v among_o the_o people_n i_o hold_v of_o paul_n i_o of_o apollo_n and_o i_o of_o cephas_n the_o church_n be_v rule_v in_o common_a by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o minister_n but_o after_o that_o every_o one_o account_v those_o who_o he_o baptize_v to_o be_v his_o and_o not_o christ_n it_o be_v decree_v throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o one_o be_v choose_v from_o among_o the_o minister_n shall_v be_v place_v over_o the_o rest_n to_o who_o the_o whole_a care_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v appertein_a and_o the_o seed_n of_o schism_n be_v take_v away_o will_v 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riches_n no_o impediment_n to_o godly_a man_n wherein_o our_o bishop_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o old_a bishop_n his_o duty_n and_o in_o such_o external_a thing_n the_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n and_o state_n of_o the_o country_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v let_v our_o bishop_n be_v compare_v with_o they_o in_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n in_o honesty_n of_o life_n in_o diligent_a walk_n in_o their_o vocation_n and_o in_o knowledge_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o most_o in_o both_o age_n and_o i_o think_v the_o difference_n will_v not_o be_v so_o great_a but_o that_o they_o may_v both_o know_v one_o another_o and_o very_o well_o agree_v among_o themselves_o this_o only_o except_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v now_o much_o more_o pure_o profess_v by_o our_o bishop_n than_o it_o be_v at_o that_o time_n by_o they_o for_o both_o the_o counsel_n be_v in_o sundry_a point_n very_o corrupt_a chap._n 5._o the._n 18._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o 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23._o rufsin_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o civil_a cause_n be_v rather_o commit_v unto_o he_o than_o the_o priesthood_n etc._n etc._n if_o any_o bishop_n offend_v in_o the_o like_a with_o we_o it_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o the_o man_n not_o of_o the_o office_n by_o this_o example_n also_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o bishop_n in_o those_o day_n have_v riches_n and_o authority_n for_o this_o abuse_n of_o their_o wealth_n and_o authority_n do_v argue_v that_o they_o have_v both_o which_o they_o may_v have_v use_v right_o and_o well_o chap._n 5._o the._n 20._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 4._o and_o here_o i_o will_v note_v another_o cause_n which_o bring_v in_o this_o pomp_n and_o princely_a estate_n of_o bishop_n wherein_o although_o i_o will_v say_v more_o in_o a_o word_n for_o the_o pompous_a estate_n than_o m._n doctor_n have_v do_v in_o all_o his_o treatise_n yet_o i_o will_v show_v that_o although_o it_o be_v more_o tolerable_a at_o the_o first_o now_o it_o be_v by_o no_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lord_n as_o likewise_o in_o france_n they_o call_v every_o one_o that_o be_v a_o gentleman_n or_o have_v any_o honest_a place_n monsieur_fw-fr and_o so_o they_o will_v say_v also_o save_v your_o honour_n now_o we_o know_v this_o word_n lord_n in_o our_o country_n be_v use_v otherwise_o to_o note_v some_o great_a personage_n either_o by_o reason_n of_o birth_n or_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o high_a dignity_n in_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o he_o occupi_v and_o therefore_o those_o title_n although_o they_o be_v somewhat_o excessive_a yet_o be_v they_o nothing_o so_o swell_a and_o stately_a as_o we_o be_v io._n whitgifte_n the_o wise_a man_n say_v let_v not_o thy_o own_o mouth_n praise_v thou_o but_o you_o for_o lack_v of_o 27._o pro._n 27._o
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of_o a_o new_a popedom_n have_v you_o show_v this_o confuse_a order_n to_o have_v be_v in_o y_z e_o apostles_n time_n or_o in_o y_z e_z primitive_a church_n apostle_n t._n c._n ascribe_v his_o own_o devise_n to_o the_o apostle_n where_o have_v you_o show_v it_o or_o when_o will_v you_o prove_v it_o synod_n there_o be_v indeed_o and_o necessary_a it_o be_v that_o when_o occasion_n serve_v they_o shall_v be_v but_o your_o signiory_n in_o every_o town_n or_o parish_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n never_o be_v neither_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o without_o confusion_n it_o shall_v be_v as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v but_o what_o audacity_n be_v this_o to_o ascribe_v a_o order_n invent_v by_o yourself_o upon_o the_o which_o scarce_o three_o of_o you_o do_v agree_v if_o you_o be_v well_o examine_v and_o in_o the_o which_o yourself_o or_o ever_o it_o be_v long_o will_v espy_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v alter_v unto_o the_o apostle_n of_o bishops_n court_n and_o their_o officer_n chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 1_o these_o thing_n stand_v in_o this_o sort_n all_o those_o court_n of_o bishop_n and_o archbyshop_n must_v needs_o fall_v which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n erect_v against_o this_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n of_o eldership_n as_o the_o court_n of_o faculty_n and_o those_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o chancellor_n commissary_n officialls_n and_o such_o like_a the_o describe_v of_o the_o corruption_n whereof_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o which_o i_o will_v note_v the_o principal_a head_n and_o sum_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o not_o these_o court_v only_o but_o all_o the_o court_n in_o england_n will_v be_v devour_v up_o of_o your_o signiory_n yea_o each_o the_o prince_n regal_a authority_n as_o may_v appear_v partly_o by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o partly_o by_o that_o which_o shall_v follow_v hereafter_o for_o what_o jurisdiction_n will_v not_o your_o signiory_n usurp_v what_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o presume_v to_o determine_v what_o degree_n of_o person_n will_v it_o not_o tread_v under_o foot_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o you_o say_v of_o these_o court_n chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 2._o first_o for_o that_o they_o enter_v into_o a_o office_n which_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o they_o but_o to_o every_o particular_a church_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o eldership_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o although_o they_o shall_v do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v good_a lawful_a and_o godly_a yet_o can_v they_o not_o approve_v their_o labour_n unto_o man_n much_o less_o to_o god_n put_v their_o sickle_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o neither_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v that_o apperteyne_a unto_o they_o neither_o by_o m._n doctor_n own_o judgement_n if_o his_o yea_o were_z yea_o and_o his_o nay_o nay_o consider_v that_o he_o say_v before_o that_o this_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o the_o minister_n and_o although_o it_o shall_v perteyne_a unto_o the_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v call_v to_o who_o notwithstanding_o it_o do_v not_o apperteyne_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a for_o he_o to_o translate_v this_o office_n unto_o another_o and_o to_o appoint_v one_o to_o do_v it_o when_o he_o list_v no_o more_o than_o he_o can_v appoint_v they_o to_o do_v his_o other_o office_n of_o minister_a as_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o several_a government_n by_o eldership_n in_o every_o parish_n i_o utter_o reject_v as_o neither_o justifiable_a by_o god_n word_n nor_o any_o example_n of_o any_o church_n at_o any_o time_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n in_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n by_o you_o prescribe_v the_o court_n of_o faculty_n meddle_v not_o with_o excommunication_n the_o court_n of_o chancellor_n etc._n etc._n have_v many_o more_o matter_n to_o deal_v withal_o than_o excommunication_n for_o that_o be_v but_o one_o part_n 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thereunto_o force_v by_o your_o intolerable_a outrageousnesse_n the_o which_o howsoever_o i_o suffer_v against_o myself_o yet_o may_v i_o be_v bold_a something_o to_o say_v unto_o you_o thus_o swell_v and_o rage_v against_o other_o chap._n 2._o the._n 6._o division_n admonition_n these_o senior_n then_o because_o their_o charge_n be_v not_o overmuch_o do_v execute_v their_o office_n in_o their_o own_o person_n without_o substitute_n our_o lord_n bishop_n have_v their_o under_o officer_n as_o suffragans_n chancellor_n archdeacon_n officials_n commissary_n and_o such_o like_a answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 117._o sect._n 2._o 3._o 4._o you_o bare_o affirm_v without_o any_o proof_n that_o these_o senior_n than_o vicar_n of_o substitute_n or_o vicar_n do_v execute_v their_o office_n in_o their_o own_o person_n without_o substitute_n but_o your_o bare_a word_n be_v not_o of_o sufficient_a credit_n although_o i_o think_v you_o will_v make_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o 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〈◊〉_d bishops_n vicar_n let_v the_o author_n of_o the_o century_n judge_v who_o speak_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n cent._n 4._o cap._n 7._o write_v thus_o episcoporum_fw-la vicarios_fw-la canon_n conciliorum_fw-la ancyrani_fw-la neocaesariensis_n &_o antiocheni_n si_fw-la quam_fw-la fidem_fw-la habent_fw-la chorepiscopos_fw-la nominant_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o canon_n of_o the_o counsel_n of_o ancyra_n neocaesarea_n and_o antioch_n if_o they_o bear_v any_o credit_n do_v call_v 7._o cent._n 4._o cap._n 7._o the_o vicar_n of_o bishop_n chorepiscopos_fw-la which_o word_n also_o be_v extant_a in_o the._n 54._o epist_n of_o basile_n and_o sozom._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 14._o call_v one_o maureandas_n chorepiscopum_fw-la of_o bicoris_n bishop_n of_o the_o persian_n m_o caluine_n in_o his_o instit._n cap._n 8._o sect._n 52._o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n every_o college_n say_v he_o only_o for_o the_o preservation_n of_o order_n caluine_n caluine_n &_o concord_n be_v subject_a to_o one_o 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lin_v 4._o likewise_o that_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n speak_v of_o ordain_v and_o not_o of_o elect_v you_o must_v of_o necessity_n confess_v that_o by_o say_v sicut_fw-la tibi_fw-la ordinaram_fw-la as_o i_o appoint_v 1._o tit._n 1._o thou_o he_o mean_v only_a imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o prayer_n as_o though_o he_o shall_v say_v ut_fw-la constituas_fw-la opidatìm_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la suut_n tibi_fw-la ordinaram_fw-la sci_fw-la per_fw-la impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la &_o orationem_fw-la that_o thou_o shall_v ordain_v minister_n in_o every_o city_n as_o i_o appoint_v thou_o that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n and_o by_o prayer_n and_o thus_o do_v learned_a interpreter_n also_o expound_v this_o place_n neither_o be_v musculus_fw-la his_o meaning_n much_o otherwise_o as_o it_o may_v appear_v to_o those_o that_o well_o consider_v his_o word_n especial_o if_o your_o distinction_n betwixt_o elect_v &_o ordain_v hold_n and_o if_o paul_n speak_v here_o of_o 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diverse_a point_n agree_v not_o full_o with_o he_o especial_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o some_o place_n of_o the_o scripture_n when_o as_o in_o my_o opinion_n they_o come_v near_o to_o the_o true_a meaning_n and_o sense_n of_o it_o in_o those_o point_n than_o he_o do_v i_o do_v never_o cleave_v to_o musculus_fw-la or_o to_o any_o other_o man_n so_o that_o for_o he_o or_o their_o sake_n i_o derogate_v any_o thing_n from_o such_o as_o be_v comparable_a to_o they_o and_o have_v deserve_v singular_a commendation_n for_o their_o writing_n if_o any_o one_o or_o mo_z learned_a man_n be_v of_o my_o judgement_n though_o all_o be_v not_o i_o be_o not_o ashamed_a to_o use_v their_o testimony_n in_o that_o point_n though_o in_o some_o other_o point_n i_o do_v not_o consent_v unto_o they_o if_o i_o either_o unjoint_n or_o rack_n in_o piece_n from_o the_o rest_n any_o word_n or_o sentence_n of_o master_n caluines_n make_v it_o know_v set_v it_o open_v that_o i_o may_v just_o bear_v the_o 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also_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o before_o that_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v not_o the_o inventor_n if_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a it_o may_v be_v use_v whosoever_o do_v invent_v it_o io._n whitgifte_n not_o one_o word_n answer_v to_o all_o this_o chap._n 6._o the._n 13._o division_n admonition_n and_o as_o safe_o may_v we_o by_o the_o warrant_n of_o god_n word_n subscribe_v to_o allow_v the_o dominion_n of_o the_o pope_n universal_o to_o reign_v over_o the_o church_n of_o god_n as_o of_o a_o archebishop_n over_o a_o whole_a province_n or_o a_o lord_n bishop_n over_o a_o diocese_n which_o contain_v many_o shire_n and_o parish_n for_o the_o dominion_n that_o they_o exercise_v the_o archebishop_n above_o they_o and_o they_o above_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o brethren_n be_v unlawful_a and_o express_o forbid_a by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 210._o sect._n 2._o in_o that_o you_o say_v that_o you_o may_v as_o safe_o by_o 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shall_v be_v always_o in_o doubt_n whether_o we_o be_v right_o baptize_v or_o no_o but_o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o the_o force_n &_o strength_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o in_o the_o man_n be_v he_o minister_v or_o not_o minister_v be_v he_o good_a or_o evil_n but_o in_o god_n himself_o in_o his_o spirit_n in_o his_o free_a &_o effectual_a operation_n and_o therefore_o say_v s._n paul_n what_o be_v paul_n what_o be_v apollo_n etc._n etc._n this_o i_o speak_v not_o to_o bring_v confusion_n into_o the_o church_n for_o as_o i_o say_v before_o let_v man_n take_v heed_n that_o they_o usurp_v not_o a_o office_n whereunto_o they_o be_v not_o call_v for_o god_n will_v call_v they_o to_o a_o account_n for_o so_o do_v but_o to_o teach_v a_o truth_n to_o take_v a_o yoke_n of_o doubtfulness_n from_o man_n conscience_n and_o to_o resist_v a_o error_n not_o much_o differ_v from_o donatisme_n and_o anabaptisme_n chap._n 5._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag_n 114._o sect._n 1_o for_o 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confident_o avouch_v that_o which_o you_o can_v prove_v the_o distribution_n of_o the_o cup_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v command_v in_o manifest_a and_o express_v word_n as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o supper_n but_o you_o can_v show_v i_o the_o like_a commandment_n that_o only_o a_o minister_n shall_v celebrate_v baptism_n or_o else_o that_o it_o be_v no_o baptism_n we_o know_v that_o circumcision_n the_o figure_n of_o baptism_n be_v minister_v sometime_o by_o such_o as_o be_v no_o priest_n and_o yet_o right_a and_o true_a circumcision_n chap._n 5._o the._n 6._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v preach_v which_o be_v not_o send_v text_n send_v this_o be_v add_v to_o the_o text_n no_o not_o 10._o rom._n 10._o although_o he_o speak_v the_o word_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o interpret_v they_o so_o i_o can_v see_v how_o a_o man_n can_v baptise_v unless_o that_o he_o be_v send_v to_o that_o end_n although_o he_o pour_v water_n and_o rehearse_v the_o word_n which_o be_v to_o be_v rehearse_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o baptism_n io._n whitgifte_n s._n 〈◊〉_d in_o that_o 10._o chap_a to_o the_o rom._n speak_v of_o the_o extraordinary_a call_n to_o the_o office_n of_o preach_v so_o say_v m._n martyr_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o place_n martyr_n martyr_n and_o although_o paul_n intreat_v in_o this_o place_n of_o call_v and_o send_v and_o this_o be_v as_o i_o say_v ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o he_o now_o speak_v of_o the_o extraordinary_a call_n etc._n etc._n and_o m._n caluine_n likewise_o upon_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o paul_n caluine_n caluine_n do_v not_o there_o speak_v de_fw-fr legitima_fw-la cvius_fw-la que_fw-la vocatione_n of_o the_o lawful_a call_n of_o every_o man_n wherefore_o if_o you_o will_v ground_n any_o such_o reason_n upon_o this_o place_n it_o must_v be_v thus_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v 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you_o know_v that_o euseb._n say_v that_o origene_n be_v a_o lie_v man_n be_v send_v into_o arabia_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n which_o he_o also_o do_v both_o before_o &_o after_o in_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n and_o likewise_o in_o caesarea_n and_o although_o demetrius_n then_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n find_v fault_n that_o origene_n be_v a_o lay_n man_n shall_v preach_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o bishop_n at_o caesarea_n yet_o be_v it_o manifest_a that_o he_o allow_v lay_v man_n to_o preach_v if_o bishop_n be_v not_o present_a and_o in_o the_o same_o chap_a by_o diverse_a example_n it_o be_v show_v as_o of_o euelpis_n at_o laranda_n of_o paulinus_n at_o iconium_n of_o theodorus_n at_o synada_n that_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n both_o then_o and_o before_o that_o time_n be_v that_o lie_v man_n may_v preach_v even_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o bishop_n so_o that_o you_o have_v err_v both_o in_o apply_v the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o in_o say_v that_o lie_v man_n may_v not_o preach_v the_o word_n upon_o occasion_n and_o so_o consequent_o baptise_v chap._n 5._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o i_o know_v there_o be_v diverse_a difficulty_n diverse_a the_o more_o to_o blame_v you_o be_v without_o proo_o to_o enter_v into_o such_o difficulty_n difficulty_n in_o this_o question_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_v sooth_n to_o enter_v into_o it_o but_o that_o the_o answerer_n set_v down_o so_o confident_o that_o it_o make_v no_o matter_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o baptism_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n and_o so_o whether_o one_o have_v a_o calling_n or_o no_o calling_n wherein_o notwithstanding_o he_o do_v not_o only_o by_o his_o often_o handle_v of_o one_o thing_n confound_v his_o reader_n but_o himself_o also_o and_o forget_v that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o other_o question_n than_o which_o be_v propound_v for_o although_o it_o shall_v be_v graunce_v he_o that_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o that_o yet_o have_v he_o not_o that_o intend_v that_o this_o be_v no_o intend_v which_o he_o will_v have_v that_o woman_n may_v baptise_v for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o say_v the_o baptism_n which_o be_v minister_v by_o woman_n be_v good_a and_o effectual_a and_o a_o other_o thing_n to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o woman_n to_o minister_v baptism_n for_o there_o be_v no_o man_n doubt_v but_o that_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v minister_v by_o a_o heretical_a minister_n be_v effectual_a and_o yet_o i_o think_v that_o m._n doctor_n will_v not_o say_v that_o therefore_o a_o heretical_a minister_n may_v baptise_v and_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o herctike_n to_o baptise_v in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o man_n must_v not_o only_o take_v heed_n as_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o they_o usurp_v not_o that_o which_o they_o be_v not_o call_v unto_o but_o they_o must_v also_o take_v heed_n that_o they_o receyve_v not_o function_n and_o charge_n upon_o they_o whereof_o they_o 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of_o that_o office_n and_o the_o same_o s._n augustine_n affirm_v of_o baptism_n by_o lay_n man_n in_o the_o place_n 13._o august_n lib._n 2._o contr_n epist._n parmea_n ca._n 13._o before_o allege_v although_o say_v he_o it_o be_v usurp_v without_o necessity_n and_o be_v give_v of_o any_o man_n to_o any_o man_n that_o which_o be_v give_v can_v be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v give_v although_o it_o may_v be_v right_o say_v not_o to_o be_v right_o give_v and_o i_o further_o say_v that_o if_o the_o baptisime_n minister_v by_o heretical_a minister_n which_o be_v no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v notwithstanding_o good_a and_o effectual_a i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o rather_o if_o it_o be_v minister_v by_o lie_v man_n which_o be_v member_n
and_o part_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 5._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 153._o sect._n 2._o m._n bucer_n in_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n speak_v of_o bucer_n bucer_n the_o order_n appoint_v in_o the_o same_o for_o private_a baptism_n write_v thus_o in_o this_o constitution_n all_o thing_n be_v godly_a appoint_v i_o will_v to_o god_n they_o expedient_a differ_v of_o baptism_n not_o expedient_a be_v so_o observe_v and_o especial_o this_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o differ_v for_o thereby_o be_v a_o door_n open_v unto_o the_o devil_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o contempt_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o of_o our_o whole_a redemption_n and_o communion_n of_o christ_n which_o through_o the_o sect_n of_o anabaptiste_n have_v to_o much_o prevayl_v with_o many_o t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o 153._o page_n m._n bucers_n censure_n upon_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v cite_v for_o the_o allowance_n of_o that_o it_o have_v touch_v private_a baptism_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o baptism_n by_o woman_n it_o may_v be_v that_o as_o m._n bucer_n although_o otherwise_o very_o learned_a have_v courtesy_n have_v this_o be_v but_o gross_a courtesy_n other_o gross_a absurdity_n so_o he_o may_v have_v that_o but_o it_o have_v be_v for_o the_o credit_n of_o your_o cause_n if_o you_o have_v show_v that_o out_o of_o those_o writing_n which_o be_v publish_v &_o know_v to_o be_v his_o &_o not_o out_o of_o those_o whereof_o man_n may_v doubt_v whether_o ever_o he_o write_v any_o such_o or_o no_o and_o if_o he_o write_v whether_o they_o be_v corrupt_v by_o those_o into_o who_o hand_n they_o come_v and_o if_o you_o will_v take_v any_o advantage_n of_o m._n bucers_n testimony_n consider_v that_o a_o witness_n be_v a_o public_a person_n you_o shall_v have_v bring_v he_o out_o of_o your_o study_n into_o the_o stationer_n shop_n where_o he_o may_v have_v be_v common_a to_o other_o as_o well_o as_o to_o you_o 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his_o authority_n but_o you_o be_v the_o first_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o ever_o i_o hear_v so_o churlish_o to_o use_v so_o reverend_a so_o learned_a so_o painful_a so_o sound_o a_o father_n be_v also_o a_o earnest_n and_o zealous_a professor_n it_o cause_v i_o the_o less_o to_o regard_v what_o you_o speak_v of_o i_o when_o i_o hear_v such_o bitterness_n against_o all_o other_o be_v they_o never_o so_o zealous_a and_o excellent_a well_o bucer_n reason_n which_o touch_v the_o quick_a will_v have_v be_v reasonable_o answer_v without_o spite_n and_o you_o shall_v rather_o have_v consider_v they_o than_o the_o author_n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o word_n by_o he_o affirm_v which_o be_v not_o in_o as_o plain_a term_n avouch_v by_o zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o word_n before_o recite_v the_o book_n of_o m._n bucers_n be_v forth_o come_v to_o be_v show_v and_o he_o affirm_v nothing_o therein_o contrary_a to_o his_o book_n publish_v he_o have_v more_o special_a occasion_n here_o offer_v to_o speak_v both_o of_o this_o and_o other_o matter_n now_o in_o controversy_n and_o therefore_o the_o more_o he_o be_v to_o be_v credit_v chap._n 5._o the._n 9_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o for_o although_o i_o will_v not_o say_v but_o that_o this_o may_v be_v bucer_n do_v yet_o it_o seem_v very_o strange_a that_o bucer_n shall_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o the_o learned_a writer_n now_o but_o also_o contrary_a to_o all_o learned_a antiquity_n and_o contrary_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n while_o there_o be_v any_o tolerable_a estate_n allow_v of_o woman_n baptise_v velan_n baptise_v de_fw-fr virgin_n velan_n tertullian_n say_v it_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o a_o woman_n to_o speak_v in_o the_o church_n nor_o to_o teach_v or_o to_o baptize_v nor_o to_o do_v any_o work_n of_o a_o man_n much_o less_o of_o a_o minister_n baptis_n minister_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_n and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n although_o he_o do_v permit_v it_o to_o be_v 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man_n may_v have_v any_o thing_n of_o his_o own_o but_o common_a to_o other_o we_o do_v not_o read_v express_o that_o child_n be_v then_o baptize_v therefore_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v now_o for_o so_o do_v the_o anabaptist_n reason_n neither_o do_v we_o read_v that_o woman_n do_v then_o receive_v the_o supper_n therefore_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o do_v it_o now_o with_o infinite_a other_o as_o absurd_a as_o these_o t._n c._n pag._n 130._o sect._n 1_o unto_o the_o three_o next_o section_n contain_v in_o the._n 94._o 95._o and_o a_o piece_n of_o the._n 96._o page_n touch_v that_o which_o be_v call_v the_o introite_fw-la and_o man_n and_o you_o may_v aswell_o call_v chapter_n fragment_n for_o they_o be_v but_o piece_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o epistle_n and_o be_v first_o so_o divide_v by_o man_n fragment_n of_o the_o epistle_n and_o gospel_n and_o the_o rehearsal_n of_o the_o nicene_n creed_n i_o have_v declare_v before_o the_o cause_n of_o our_o mislike_v neither_o mean_v i_o to_o stand_v to_o refute_v the_o slanderous_a surmise_n which_o m._n doctor_n raise_v of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n whereby_o he_o will_v bring_v they_o into_o the_o suspicion_n of_o arrianisme_n to_o who_o all_o those_o that_o fear_n god_n bear_v witness_n that_o they_o be_v most_o far_o from_o he_o himself_o notwithstanding_o once_o again_o in_o the_o last_o of_o these_o three_o section_n 96._o pag._n do_v lie_v the_o manyfeste_a foundation_n of_o that_o part_n of_o anabaptisme_n which_o stand_v in_o have_v all_o thing_n common_a say_v direct_o against_o s._n peter_n that_o in_o act._n 5._o act._n the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n christian_n have_v propriety_n in_o nothing_o and_o further_o give_v great_a cause_n of_o triumph_n of_o the_o one_o side_n to_o the_o eatabaptist_n and_o such_o as_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o young_a infant_n in_o match_v that_o with_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o church_n may_v although_o not_o without_o incommoditie_n yet_o without_o impiety_n be_v without_o and_o of_o the_o other_o side_n unto_o the_o papist_n while_o he_o say_v that_o we_o read_v not_o of_o any_o woman_n which_o receyve_v the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o apostle_n tyme._n for_o this_o be_v that_o they_o allege_v to_o prove_v their_o unwritten_a verity_n when_o as_o it_o be_v easy_o answer_v both_o to_o the_o papist_n and_o m._n doctor_n that_o forsomuche_o as_o the_o apostle_n do_v witness_v that_o the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o woman_n do_v receyve_v that_o therefore_o woman_n also_o do_v receyve_v and_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n thus_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o m._n doctor_n only_o to_o displease_v the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n stick_v not_o to_o argument_n to_o he_o pleasure_v they_o in_o declare_v the_o absurdity_n of_o their_o argument_n pleasure_v three_o notable_a heretic_n
sing_v esau_n himself_o receyve_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n notwithstanding_o he_o be_v before_o reject_v 9_o rom._n 9_o and_o that_o his_o posterity_n be_v not_o so_o far_o estrange_v from_o the_o people_n of_o god_n as_o those_o that_o never_o be_v in_o the_o church_n it_o may_v appear_v by_o that_o which_o be_v write_v in_o deutronomie_n where_o the_o israelite_n be_v will_v to_o acknowledge_v they_o for_o their_o etc._n deut._n 23._o vers_fw-la 7._o 8._o the_o papist_n lie_v e_o o_o the_o 〈◊〉_d v_o der_fw-mi jeroboani_n etc._n etc._n brethren_n and_o to_o admit_v their_o child_n in_o the_o third_o generation_n into_o the_o congregation_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o the_o papist_n like_v unto_o ishmael_n and_o esau_n but_o rather_o the_o same_o with_o the_o israelite_n under_o jeroboam_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o they_o profess_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n have_v circumcision_n and_o be_v not_o in_o all_o point_n strange_a from_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o yet_o join_v thereunto_o idolatry_n and_o the_o false_a worship_v of_o god_n even_o so_o the_o papist_n pretend_v the_o law_n of_o god_n use_v the_o sacrament_n profess_v christianity_n and_o be_v not_o in_o all_o point_n strange_a from_o christian_a faith_n but_o yet_o have_v corrupt_v the_o same_o with_o idolatrous_a worship_v and_o diverse_a other_o kind_n of_o superstition_n and_o error_n therefore_o say_v m._n beza_n very_o well_o in_o the_o word_n before_o recite_v 10._o beza_n epist._n 10._o papismus_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christianae_n aberratio_fw-la papisme_n be_v the_o err_a of_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la velut_fw-la immersa_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la quod_fw-la de_fw-fr turcis_n dici_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la potest_fw-la qui_fw-la nunquà m_fw-la cbristo_fw-la nomen_fw-la dederunt_fw-la the_o church_n be_v as_o it_o be_v cover_v or_o drown_v in_o papisme_n which_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v say_v of_o turk_n which_o never_o give_v their_o name_n to_o christ_n or_o profess_a christianity_n wherefore_o if_o you_o have_v make_v a_o right_a comparison_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v compare_v they_o to_o ishmael_n and_o esau_n but_o to_o the_o revolt_a israelite_n as_o m._n martyr_n do_v say_v thus_o express_o quales_fw-la olim_fw-la israelitae_n etc._n etc._n such_o be_v the_o reg._n martyr_n in_o 3._o cap._n 1._o reg._n papist_n at_o this_o day_n if_o they_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o professor_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o be_v the_o israelite_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o full_a well_o you_o know_v that_o in_o so_o do_v your_o error_n will_v soon_o have_v be_v espy_v for_o though_o the_o israelite_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o true_a church_n yet_o be_v not_o their_o child_n cut_v of_o from_o the_o covenaunt_n or_o debar_v from_o the_o sign_n thereof_o the_o poison_n which_o you_o say_v we_o now_o see_v and_o that_o lie_v hide_v under_o these_o word_n be_v doctrine_n the_o poison_n that_o be_v hide_v in_o 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congregation_n some_o there_o be_v which_o do_v both_o teach_v the_o word_n and_o govern_v also_o some_o which_o do_v not_o teach_v but_o only_o govern_v and_o be_v aider_n in_o the_o government_n unto_o those_o which_o do_v teach_v this_o division_n be_v most_o manifest_o set_v forth_o in_o the_o epistle_n unto_o timothe_n where_o he_o say_v the_o elder_n 5._o 1._o tim._n 5._o which_o rule_v well_o be_v worthy_a of_o double_a honour_n and_o especial_o those_o which_o labour_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n where_o he_o make_v by_o plain_n and_o express_v word_n two_o sort_n of_o elder_n the_o one_o which_o do_v both_o govern_v and_o teach_v the_o other_o which_o govern_v only_o these_o therefore_o be_v the_o senior_n which_o be_v mean_v who_o office_n be_v in_o help_v the_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n in_o the_o government_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n where_o they_o be_v place_v pastor_n and_o elder_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v no_o rare_a matter_n in_o handle_v any_o thing_n first_o to_o entreat_v of_o that_o which_o be_v natura_fw-la posterius_fw-la and_o we_o see_v it_o common_o so_o use_v by_o logician_n who_o first_o treat_v of_o that_o part_n which_o be_v call_v judicium_fw-la then_o of_o the_o other_o which_o be_v call_v inuentio_fw-la notwithstanding_o inuentio_fw-la in_o nature_n be_v before_o judicium_fw-la but_o i_o will_v not_o spend_v ink_n and_o paper_n in_o answer_v so_o vain_a a_o cavillation_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o i_o in_o my_o answer_n follow_v the_o order_n of_o the_o admonition_n for_o i_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o office_n of_o those_o senior_n to_o govern_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n because_o they_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o excommunication_n be_v the_o chief_a discipline_n in_o the_o church_n see_v the_o execution_n thereof_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n only_o so_o that_o i_o first_o take_v away_o authority_n from_o their_o senior_n &_o then_o answer_v the_o place_n which_o they_o abuse_v for_o the_o establish_n of_o their_o authority_n my_o word_n be_v these_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o to_o prove_v that_o such_o senior_n as_o you_o mean_v and_o deacon_n have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v in_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n but_o all_o this_o be_v from_o the_o purpose_n your_o division_n of_o senior_n though_o i_o know_v that_o it_o have_v learned_a patroness_n yet_o do_v i_o not_o understande_v how_o it_o agree_v with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o will_v evident_o appear_v that_o presbyter_n be_v usual_o take_v for_o episcopus_fw-la or_o minister_n or_o pastor_n 1._o presbyter_n usual_o take_v for_o a_o minister_n 1._o pet._n 5._o act._n 20._o tit._n 1._o as_o 1._o pet._n 5._o presbyteros_fw-la qui_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la sunt_fw-la bortor_n qui_fw-la sum_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la presbyter_n etc._n etc._n pascite_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o elder_n which_o be_v among_o you_o i_o beseech_v which_o be_o myself_o also_o a_o elder_a &c_n &c_n feed_v the_o the_o flock_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o act._n s._n paul_n call_v the_o same_o man_n senior_n and_o bishop_n and_o by_o senior_n mean_v none_o other_o than_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n as_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o that_o place_n likewise_o ad_fw-la titum_fw-la 1._o he_o say_v that_o titus_n be_v leave_v at_o creta_n ut_fw-la constituat_fw-la opidatim_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la that_o he_o shall_v appoint_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n and_o declare_v what_o quality_n they_o ought_v to_o have_v he_o add_v oportet_fw-la episcopum_fw-la immunem_fw-la esse_fw-la à _fw-la crimine_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o bishop_n must_v be_v unreprovable_a etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o take_v they_o both_o for_o one_o the_o only_a place_n that_o have_v any_o show_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o your_o distinction_n be_v that_o 5._o two_o kind_n of_o presbyteri_fw-la 1._o tim._n 5._o 1._o tim._n 5._o presbyteri_fw-la
qui_fw-la bene_fw-la praesunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o be_v worthy_a double_a honour_n special_o they_o which_o labour_n in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n where_o although_o s._n paul_n make_v a_o distinction_n of_o senior_n yet_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o senior_n he_o do_v comprehend_v such_o only_a as_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n 1._o tract_n 9_o cap._n 1._o the._n 15._o division_n &_o tract_n 6._o cap._n 1._o and_o i_o have_v before_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v commit_v to_o some_o to_o who_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o commit_v and_o this_o distinction_n of_o minister_n do_v this_o place_n 1._o timot._fw-la 5._o very_o well_o justify_v for_o unless_o the_o apostle_n s_o paul_n have_v mean_v that_o of_o minister_n some_o preach_v some_o only_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v maximè_fw-la qui_fw-la laborant_fw-la sermone_fw-la &_o doctrina_fw-la only_o but_o qui_fw-la laborant_fw-la sermone_fw-la &_o administratione_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la for_o so_o shall_v he_o plain_o have_v declare_v that_o there_o be_v some_o presbyteri_fw-la which_o do_v neither_o labour_n in_o preach_v nor_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n this_o same_o distinction_n of_o minister_n be_v also_o justify_v by_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n speak_v 1._o corinth_n 1._o non_fw-la misit_fw-la i_o christus_fw-la ut_fw-la baptizarem_fw-la etc._n etc._n mean_v 1._o 1._o cor._n 1._o because_o the_o word_n be_v the_o great_a therefore_o he_o may_v not_o leave_v the_o great_a for_o the_o less_o now_o if_o all_o they_o that_o baptize_v have_v the_o gift_n of_o preach_v also_o why_o may_v not_o and_o ought_v not_o they_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o say_v christ_n send_v we_o not_o to_o baptize_v but_o to_o preach_v s._n ambrose_n write_v upon_o these_o word_n aduersus_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la etc._n etc._n against_o a_o 5._o ambrose_n 1._o tim._n 5._o elder_a receyve_v no_o accusation_n etc._n etc._n which_o immediate_o follow_v the_o other_o do_v understand_v thereby_o minister_n and_o priest_n only_o for_o he_o call_v they_o vicarios_fw-la christi_fw-la christ_n vicar_n and_o antistites_fw-la dei_fw-la god_n prelate_n so_o do_v m._n caluine_n in_o like_a manner_n expound_v 5._o caluin_n in_o 1._o tim._n 5._o the_o same_o word_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n i_o know_v that_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o sentence_n qui_fw-la bene_fw-la praesunt_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o make_v two_o kind_n of_o senior_n but_o yet_o do_v he_o instit._n cap._n 8._o sect._n 52._o where_o he_o purposely_o speak_v of_o senior_n say_v that_o they_o be_v all_o preacher_n neither_o do_v i_o see_v any_o cause_n why_o this_o word_n presbyter_n shall_v not_o in_o both_o these_o place_n be_v take_v in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o signification_n chrysostome_n 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according_a to_o the_o usual_a and_o receive_a custom_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o he_o allude_v unto_o the_o order_n of_o the_o old_a church_n as_o also_o in_o other_o place_n he_o frame_v his_o talk_n according_a to_o the_o know_v and_o usual_a manner_n so_o that_o that_o excommunication_n use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o corinthian_n can_v in_o no_o respect_n be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n in_o either_o of_o the_o place_n neither_o yet_o according_a unto_o it_o wherefore_o you_o write_v without_o judgement_n you_o wot_v not_o what_o s._n paul_n do_v public_o excommunicate_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o use_v they_o as_o witness_n of_o his_o just_a deal_n but_o his_o word_n be_v plain_a that_o the_o right_a &_o power_n of_o excommunication_n remain_v in_o himself_o when_o s._n paul_n say_v unto_o the_o corinthian_n expurgate_n vetus_fw-la fermentum_fw-la etc._n etc._n purge_v out_o the_o old_a leaven_n he_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o incostuous_a corinthian_a but_o exhort_v they_o 5._o 1._o cor._n 5._o to_o newness_n of_o life_n you_o shall_v hear_v how_o m._n caluine_n expound_v that_o place_n because_o he_o have_v borrow_v a_o similitude_n of_o leaven_n he_o reteyn_v it_o still_o although_o he_o do_v digress_v from_o the_o 5._o calui_fw-la 1._o cor._n 5._o matter_n which_o he_o have_v in_o hand_n unto_o a_o general_a doctrine_n for_o he_o speak_v no_o more_o of_o the_o incestuous_a person_n but_o general_o exhort_v they_o unto_o purity_n of_o life_n etc._n etc._n lord_n how_o careless_a you_o be_v in_o pervert_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o you_o may_v violent_o draw_v they_o to_o your_o purpose_n when_o he_o say_v put_v away_o that_o wicked_a man_n from_o among_o you_o he_o do_v not_o will_n they_o to_o excommunicate_v he_o but_o to_o shun_v and_o avoid_v his_o company_n and_o not_o to_o suffer_v he_o to_o come_v among_o they_o because_o he_o be_v excommunicate_a and_o as_o he_o in_o this_o place_n move_v they_o to_o a_o detestation_n of_o he_o so_o in_o that_o place_n of_o the_o second_o cor._n 2._o after_o his_o repentance_n &_o receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n he_o exhort_v they_o to_o embrace_v he_o and_o to_o love_v he_o this_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v the_o authority_n of_o excommunication_n rest_v in_o one_o for_o the_o people_n without_o such_o exhortation_n will_v hardly_o conceive_v a_o good_a opinion_n of_o he_o who_o they_o have_v know_v to_o be_v so_o grevous_a a_o offendor_n wherefore_o the_o apostle_n here_o move_v they_o to_o forgive_v he_o &_o to_o love_v he_o he_o do_v not_o give_v they_o any_o authority_n to_o deliver_v he_o from_o the_o bond_n of_o excommunication_n for_o that_o he_o do_v himself_o as_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v by_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n chap._n 1._o the._n 7._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 10._o i_o read_v in_o the_o five_o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o to_o the_o corinthian_n that_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a be_v excommunicate_v public_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n but_o i_o read_v neither_o of_o senior_n nor_o deacon_n call_v as_o officer_n to_o the_o same_o s_o paul_n himself_o say_v excommunicandi_fw-la paul_n alone_o have_v lus_z excommunicandi_fw-la ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la ut_fw-la absens_fw-la corpore_fw-la presen_v spiritu_fw-la iam_fw-la decrevi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la presen_n ut_fw-la be_v etc._n etc._n i_o true_o as_o absent_v in_o the_o body_n but_o present_a in_o spirit_n have_v determine_v as_o present_v that_o he_o etc._n etc._n which_o manifest_o argue_v that_o ius_n excommunicandi_fw-la be_v in_o paul_n &_o not_o 5._o 1._o corinth_n 5._o in_o the_o rest_n but_o all_o be_v scripture_n that_o you_o speak_v how_o far_o soever_o it_o be_v from_o the_o true_a meaning_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n t._n c._n pag._n 147._o sect._n 1_o now_o whereas_o m._n doctor_n upon_o those_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n that_o he_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n and_o present_a in_o spirit_n have_v determine_v etc._n etc._n conclude_v that_o the_o right_n of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o s._n paul_n and_o not_o in_o the_o rest_n it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v s._n paul_n textum_fw-la paul_n maledict_n glossa_fw-la quae_fw-la corumpit_n textum_fw-la as_o much_o as_o lay_v in_o he_o excommunicate_v therefore_o s._n paul_n excommunicate_v or_o s._n paul_n excommunicate_v therefore_o the_o church_n do_v not_o for_o what_o if_o s._n paul_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o so_o much_o as_o lay_v in_o he_o shall_v he_o therefore_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v if_o the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n &_o the_o minister_n there_o will_v have_v admit_v he_o to_o the_o supper_n and_o not_o abstain_v from_o samiliar_a company_v with_o he_o you_o will_v say_v he_o shall_v have_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o before_o god_n although_o the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n have_v not_o put_v he_o forth_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o apostle_n denunciation_n of_o god_n vengeance_n upon_o the_o impenitent_a sinner_n be_v ratify_v in_o heaven_n and_o so_o shall_v he_o also_o have_v be_v â–ª_o if_o s._n paul_n have_v say_v nothing_o and_o yet_o s._n paul_n do_v not_o excommnnicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n but_o so_o much_o as_o lay_v in_o he_o and_o as_o far_o as_o his_o right_a stretch_v not_o be_v therefore_o yet_o excommunicate_v by_o s._n paul_n it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n have_v a_o stroke_n in_o the_o excommunication_n io._n whitgifte_n s._n paul_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o &_o if_o the_o church_n of_o corinthe_n have_v keep_v he_o in_o among_o they_o notwithstanding_o yet_o have_v he_o be_v excommunicate_v before_o god_n and_o they_o shall_v have_v show_v then selue_o to_o have_v be_v a_o stubborn_a &_o rebellious_a people_n in_o deed_n if_o you_o society_n excommunication_n be_v more_o than_o exclude_v from_o the_o eternal_a society_n take_v excommunication_n for_o exclude_v from_o the_o external_a society_n of_o the_o church_n only_o than_o the_o people_n if_o they_o be_v stubborn_a &_o wilful_a may_v stop_v &_o hinder_v the_o execution_n of_o that_o discipline_n but_o in_o so_o do_v they_o forget_v their_o duty_n but_o if_o by_o excommunication_n you_o understande_v bind_n in_o heaven_n as_o you_o ought_v to_o do_v then_o have_v the_o incestuous_a person_n be_v true_o excommunicate_v though_o both_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o people_n have_v say_v the_o contrary_n wherefore_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o right_a of_o excommunicate_v remain_v in_o paul_n though_o the_o people_n do_v give_v their_o consent_n unto_o it_o by_o seclude_v he_o from_o their_o company_n and_o from_o the_o sacrament_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 147._o towards_o the_o end_n again_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o excommunication_n it_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o say_v that_o s._n paul_n have_v the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n but_o you_o shall_v have_v show_v that_o he_o on_o lie_v have_v opinion_n shall_v not_o otherwise_o be_v put_v to_o silence_n than_o by_o excommunication_n and_o ought_v no_o further_o to_o be_v punish_v do_v not_o reason_v sufficient_o and_o apt_o for_o there_o be_v one_o duty_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o another_o of_o the_o magistrate_n paul_n write_v unto_o titus_n do_v not_o entreat_v of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n but_o show_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o a_o bishop_n although_o a_o moderate_a means_n be_v always_o best_a that_o they_o which_o be_v not_o past_a care_n be_v not_o so_o much_o keep_v in_o order_n by_o force_n as_o by_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n but_o you_o think_v your_o own_o word_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a warrant_n against_o all_o man_n you_o may_v well_o study_v the_o word_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o i_o think_v you_o do_v not_o great_o pass_v for_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o they_o chap._n 1._o the._n 11._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 4._o basilius_n magnus_n in_o his_o second_o book_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la cap._n 27._o testify_v the_o same_o t._n c._n pag._n 148._o lin._n 32._o as_o touch_v basiles_n place_n in_o the_o second_o book_n of_o office_n when_o the_o book_n come_v forth_o and_o be_v print_v than_o it_o shall_v be_v answer_v as_o for_o i_o i_o know_v of_o none_o such_o that_o be_v extant_a now_o io._n whitgifte_n i_o confess_v the_o name_n to_o be_v mistake_v it_o be_v a_o oversight_n and_o yet_o no_o great_a than_o â–ª_o in_o his_o epistle_n sect._n 8_o â–ª_o you_o be_v in_o allege_v josias_n for_o ezechias_n and_o both_o this_o and_o that_o which_o follow_v of_o theodorete_n for_o theodotus_n be_v correct_v as_o well_o in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o first_o edition_n as_o in_o the_o second_o before_o i_o
have_v your_o warning_n the_o place_n of_o one_o name_n for_o another_o be_v not_o so_o great_a a_o oversight_n but_o that_o it_o may_v sometime_o happen_v to_o those_o which_o be_v very_o circumspect_a and_o even_o unto_o yourself_o as_o josias_n for_o ezechias_n in_o the_o beginning_n *_o and_o gregory_n for_o george_n afterward_o so_o that_o herein_o you_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o i_o and_o the_o ambrose_n pag._n 97._o sect._n 3_o ambrose_n one_o may_v well_o be_v set_v against_o the_o other_o but_o let_v these_o trifle_n go_v it_o be_v ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la cap._n 27._o who_o word_n be_v these_o let_v the_o bishop_n use_v the_o clerk_n and_o especial_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v indeed_o his_o son_n as_o his_o own_o member_n let_v he_o assign_v every_o one_o to_o that_o office_n whereunto_o he_o shall_v see_v he_o to_o be_v meet_v the_o part_n also_o of_o the_o body_n which_o putrify_v be_v with_o grief_n cut_v off_o and_o it_o be_v long_o look_v unto_o if_o it_o can_v be_v cure_v with_o medicine_n ▪_o but_o if_o it_o can_v they_o be_v it_o cut_v away_o by_o a_o good_a physician_n so_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o good_a bishop_n that_o he_o be_v desirous_a to_o heal_v the_o weak_a to_o take_v away_o sore_n that_o creep_v on_o to_o burn_v some_o and_o not_o to_o cut_v they_o away_o last_o to_o cut_v away_o with_o grief_n that_o which_o can_v be_v cure_v chap._n 1._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 148._o in_o the_o end_n of_o the._n 1_o sect._n to_o the_o rest_n i_o will_v answer_v with_o this_o pratestation_n that_o if_o all_o man_n shall_v do_v contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n yet_o their_o authority_n or_o 〈◊〉_d ght_v not_o to_o have_v the_o weight_n of_o a_o feather_n which_o i_o have_v say_v before_o and_o do_v understand_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o i_o do_v not_o express_v it_o and_o with_o this_o i_o come_v to_o master_n doctor_n authority_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o make_v this_o protestation_n before_o there_o be_v cause_n when_o any_o authority_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n reject_v it_o and_o spare_v not_o but_o yet_o you_o must_v show_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n to_o the_o which_o it_o be_v trarie_a ▪_o chap._n 1._o the._n 13._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 5._o excommunicate_v theodorus_n alone_o excommunicate_v theodorete_a bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v by_o himself_o alone_o excommunicate_a both_o appolinary_n for_o keep_v company_n with_o that_o wicked_a sophister_n epiphanius_n as_o sozomenus_n write_v lib._n 6._o cap._n 25._o t._n c._n pag._n 148._o sect._n 2._o as_o for_o theodoretus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n which_o sozomene_n make_v mention_n of_o in_o his_o six_o book_n i_o find_v none_o such_o but_o there_o be_v mention_v of_o one_o theodotus_n who_o be_v say_v to_o have_v separate_v or_o excommunicate_v apollinaris_n but_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v there_o that_o he_o alone_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n in_o that_o chapter_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n for_o immediate_o after_o his_o heresy_n be_v know_v damasus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o peter_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n cause_v a_o synod_n to_o be_v gather_v at_o rome_n where_o his_o heresy_n be_v condemn_v now_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o custom_n of_o synod_n and_o council_n be_v when_o they_o condemn_v the_o heresy_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o heretic_n heresy_n heretic_n you_o understand_v not_o the_o story_n for_o at_o this_o time_n apollinaris_n be_v not_o fall_v into_o his_o heresy_n it_o be_v to_o be_v think_v that_o that_o council_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o that_o theodotus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v execute_v that_o decree_n and_o excommunication_n and_o in_o deed_n sozomene_n do_v so_o expound_v himself_o when_o immediate_o after_o he_o have_v say_v that_o he_o do_v excommunicate_v he_o 〈◊〉_d he_o untruth_n for_o these_o word_n be_v not_o speak_v of_o theodorus_n but_o of_o georgius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d who_o excommunicate_v apollinaris_n the_o second_o 〈◊〉_d he_o add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v that_o he_o declare_v he_o excommunicate_a which_o indeed_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o minister_n when_o the_o excommunication_n be_v decree_v by_o those_o to_o who_o it_o appertain_v which_o thing_n may_v yet_o better_o appear_v by_o the_o manner_n of_o speech_n which_o be_v use_v in_o another_o place_n where_o speak_v of_o victor_n excommunicate_v theodotus_n he_o utter_v it_o by_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v to_o promulgate_v or_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n which_o be_v decree_v by_o other_o io._n whitgifte_n sozomene_n in_o that_o chapter_n do_v plain_o declare_v that_o both_o the_o apollinary_n be_v theodotus_n both_o the_o apollinary_n excommunicate_v by_o theodotus_n excommunicate_v by_o 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epistle_n to_o timothy_n be_v perpetual_a and_o must_v be_v keep_v under_o the_o great_a charge_n that_o be_v give_v unto_o timothy_n in_o the_o sixth_o chapter_n as_o you_o have_v before_o affirm_v then_o of_o necessity_n the_o church_n must_v needs_o still_o retain_v widow_n you_o know_v not_o in_o the_o world_n how_o to_o avoid_v this_o absurdity_n and_o therefore_o some_o time_n you_o say_v that_o now_o there_o be_v not_o so_o great_a use_n of_o they_o with_o we_o as_o there_o be_v in_o those_o place_n where_o the_o church_n be_v first_o found_v etc._n etc._n and_o by_o and_o by_o you_o begin_v to_o call_v that_o back_n and_o say_v that_o you_o do_v not_o see_v how_o a_o better_a and_o more_o convenient_a
admonition_n pag._n 183._o sect._n 2._o the_o name_n of_o priest_n need_v not_o to_o be_v so_o odious_a unto_o you_o as_o you_o priste_n the_o name_n of_o priste_n will_v seem_v to_o make_v it_o i_o suppose_v it_o come_v of_o this_o word_n presbyter_n not_o of_o sacerdos_n and_o then_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a t._n c._n pag._n 159._o sect._n 2._o although_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o you_o to_o prove_v that_o this_o word_n priest_n come_v of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o be_v not_o the_o matter_n but_o the_o case_n stand_v in_o this_o that_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o common_a and_o usual_a speech_n of_o england_n be_v to_o note_v by_o the_o word_n priest_n not_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o a_o sacrificer_n which_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o therefore_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o call_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n priest_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o english_a speech_n it_o appear_v by_o all_o 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