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A15308 A cleare, sincere, and modest confutation of the vnsound, fraudulent, and intemperate reply of T.F. who is knowne to be Mr. Thomas Fitzherbert now an English Iesuite Wherein also are confuted the chiefest obiections which D. Schulckenius, who is commonly said to be Card. Bellarmine, hath made against Widdrintons [sic] Apologie for the right, or soueraigntie of temporall princes. By Roger Widdrington an English Catholike. Preston, Thomas, 1563-1640. 1616 (1616) STC 25598; ESTC S120047 267,609 417

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or_o deny_v in_o this_o oath_n we_o must_v not_o i_o say_v so_o much_o regard_v his_o opinion_n as_o his_o intention_n and_o what_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o oath_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a and_o common_a understanding_n of_o the_o word_n to_o which_o his_o majesty_n do_v bind_v the_o taker_n and_o what_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o word_n we_o must_v acknowledge_v profess_v detest_v and_o abjure_v in_o this_o oath_n now_o it_o be_v evident_a as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o that_o my_o opinion_n be_v not_o different_a from_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o oath_n nor_o from_o that_o which_o his_o majesty_n intend_v to_o bind_v the_o swearer_n to_o acknowledge_v or_o abjure_v in_o this_o oath_n 136._o for_o i_o affirm_v two_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o oath_n the_o first_o be_v that_o any_o catholic_a may_v lawful_o and_o with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n declare_v testify_v and_o acknowledge_v before_o god_n and_o in_o his_o 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or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v depose_v by_o their_o subject_n or_o any_o other_o to_o omit_v now_o the_o word_n murder_a be_v a_o impious_a and_o damnable_a doctrine_n and_o in_o what_o sense_n it_o may_v be_v call_v heretical_a as_o also_o whether_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o word_n both_o part_n of_o that_o disiunctive_a position_n contain_v in_o the_o oath_n be_v abjure_v alike_o and_o whether_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n that_o the_o depose_n and_o murder_v of_o prince_n shall_v be_v abjure_v alike_o i_o have_v sufficient_o declare_v before_o whereby_o it_o may_v also_o appear_v that_o my_o doctrine_n bring_v no_o danger_n at_o all_o to_o his_o majesty_n as_o that_o of_o my_o adversary_n do_v but_o give_v great_a security_n both_o to_o his_o majesty_n person_n and_o state_n as_o also_o i_o have_v note_v before_o in_o the_o preface_n seq_fw-la preface_n nu_fw-la 61._o &_o seq_fw-la which_o the_o reader_n will_v quick_o have_v perceave_v if_o mr._n fitzherbert_n have_v not_o guilful_o to_o disgrace_v i_o with_o his_o majesty_n conceal_v the_o chief_a part_n of_o my_o answer_n and_o doctrine_n touch_v the_o security_n which_o it_o give_v to_o his_o majesty_n for_o which_o cause_n he_o have_v labour_v so_o much_o to_o have_v my_o book_n forbid_v that_o the_o reader_n may_v not_o see_v my_o answer_n and_o doctrine_n but_o after_o that_o mangle_a and_o lame_a manner_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o curtal_n and_o disfigure_v they_o 138._o three_o it_o be_v evident_a say_v mr._n fitzherbert_n 31._o fitzherbert_n nu_fw-la 31._o that_o neither_o widdrington_n nor_o any_o man_n that_o follow_v his_o doctrine_n can_v lawful_o swear_v this_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n whereof_o we_o treat_v for_o no_o man_n can_v with_o safe_a conscience_n abjure_v as_o impious_a and_o heretical_a any_o opinion_n which_o he_o hould_v to_o be_v probable_a as_o widdrington_n grant_v our_o opinion_n to_o be_v 139._o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a part_n i_o say_v that_o it_o 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be_v impertinent_a as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o oath_n may_v lawful_o be_v take_v 140_o last_o i_o conclude_v say_v m._n fitzherbert_n 32._o fitzherbert_n nu_fw-la 32._o that_o albeit_o there_o be_v no_o other_o thing_n in_o the_o oath_n to_o make_v it_o unlawful_a yet_o this_o only_a clause_n may_v suffice_v to_o do_v it_o yea_o and_o aught_o to_o move_v all_o catholic_n to_o refuse_v it_o for_o sure_o he_o must_v be_v a_o catholic_a of_o a_o strange_a conscience_n that_o can_v persuade_v himself_o to_o detest_v abjure_v and_o abhor_v from_o his_o heart_n a_o doctrine_n that_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o best_a catholic_a writer_n ancient_a and_o modern_a and_o confirm_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o diverse_a general_n and_o provincial_a counsel_n as_o experience_n have_v show_v for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n so_o as_o thou_o see_v good_a reader_n what_o widdrington_n gain_v by_o his_o wrangle_n see_v that_o the_o further_o he_o go_v the_o further_o he_o entangle_v himself_o still_o in_o a_o inextricable_a labyrinth_n of_o absurdity_n while_o he_o seek_v to_o entangle_v the_o conscience_n of_o catholic_n in_o the_o snare_n of_o his_o pretend_a probability_n and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o this_o point_n 141._o but_o contrariwise_o i_o conclude_v that_o this_o clause_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v the_o oath_n unlawful_a or_o to_o move_v any_o catholic_a to_o refuse_v the_o same_o for_o sure_o he_o must_v be_v a_o catholic_a of_o a_o strange_a conscience_n and_o carry_v away_o with_o the_o like_a fanatical_a zeal_n and_o bloody_a maxim_n that_o the_o powder-traitor_n be_v that_o can_v persuade_v himself_o that_o the_o murder_n of_o prince_n be_v excommunicate_v or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o which_o be_v a_o part_n of_o that_o conditional_a disiunctive_a proposition_n abjure_v in_o this_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n ought_v not_o to_o 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this_o be_v his_o principal_a meaning_n and_o intention_n that_o we_o shall_v deal_v plain_o and_o sincere_o with_o he_o without_o any_o fraud_n guile_n mental_a evasion_n or_o secret_a reservation_n whatsoever_o 129_o and_o if_o it_o shall_v so_o fall_v out_o that_o we_o can_v be_v assure_v of_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n and_o intention_n when_o any_o difficulty_n concern_v the_o sense_n of_o any_o word_n or_o sentence_n contain_v in_o the_o oath_n shall_v arise_v than_o we_o must_v recurre_v to_o those_o general_a rule_n which_o divine_n &_o lawyer_n assign_v for_o the_o interpret_n of_o the_o word_n of_o every_o law_n for_o this_o we_o may_v with_o just_a reason_n presume_v to_o be_v the_o general_a intention_n of_o his_o majesty_n as_o also_o of_o every_o lawmaker_n and_o if_o perchance_o there_o be_v any_o catholic_a so_o scrupulous_a that_o by_o apply_v the_o aforesaid_a general_a rule_n to_o any_o ambiguous_a and_o doubtful_a word_n or_o sentence_n in_o the_o oath_n he_o can_v 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