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A08326 An antidote or treatise of thirty controuersies vvith a large discourse of the Church. In which the soueraigne truth of Catholike doctrine, is faythfully deliuered: against the pestiferous writinges of all English sectaryes. And in particuler, against D. Whitaker, D. Fulke, D. Reynolds, D. Bilson, D. Robert Abbot, D. Sparkes, and D. Field, the chiefe vpholders, some of Protestancy, some of puritanisme, some of both. Deuided into three partes. By S.N. Doctour of Diuinity. The first part.; Antidote or soveraigne remedie against the pestiferous writings of all English sectaries S. N. (Sylvester Norris), 1572-1630. 1622 (1622) STC 18658; ESTC S113275 554,179 704

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learned then he is of a contrary mind Let no man deceaue himselfe and say I do pennance secretly I do it in the sight of God God who Aug. 50. bom bom 49. pardoneth me knoweth I doe it in my hart Then without cause was it sayd Those things which you loose on earth shall be loosed in heauen Then without cause were the keyes giuen to the Church of God Do we frustrate the Ghospell Do we euacuate the word of Matth. 18. v. 18. c. 26. v. 19. Christ As though all these thinges were in vaine if by God alone without the help and ministery of the Priest our sinnes could be remitted For as the Commandment our Sauiour gaue to his Apostles to baptize saying Goe teach all Nations baptizing them c. had beene wholy in vaine if all men were not bound to receaue the Sacrament Matth. 28. ● 19. of Baptisme if any entrance to Christianity any badge or cognizance of a Christian could be obtained without this lauer and regeneration of water and the holy Ghost Againe as the authority he gaue them to preach were to little purpose if men not sufficiently instructed Marc. 16. v. 15. were not obliged thereby to giue eare to his word so idle and in vaine were the commission he granted to his Apostles to retaine and forgiue sinnes if all who offended after Baptisme be not tyed to submit and make knowne their offences vnto them which for two seuerall reasons they are bound to do 6. The first is mentioned by Boetius If thou desire the Boetius de Consola l. 1. prosa 4. help of thy Phisitian it is requisite thou discouer thy disease But as many as are swollen with the impostume of sinne ought to seeke remedy for the recouery of their soules Therefore it is necessary they lay open their soares to the spirituall Phisitians appointed for their cure The second reason is because Priests are made by the vertue of this Commission not only Phisitians but spirituall Iudges also to vnderstand the quality and haynousnes of our crymes to know what medicinable pēnance they should apply to discerne what sinnes are to be remitted and Arist 8. Polit. what retained Now seeing Aristotle teacheth and naturall reason approueth it to be true That it is impossible for them to iudge discreetly who haue no knowledge of the case all that are entangled with the snares of sin must giue notice of them to the Priests tribunall whome God hath placed in iudgment-seat to pronounce in his person sentence of absolution 7. And least any should gainesay with Caluin this Nazi ora ad Ciues timore perculsos Hier. epad Helio Aug. l. 20. de ciu Dei cap. 9. Apoc. 20. iudiciall power graunted to Priests besides the words of Christ which clearely conuince it the authority of the Fathers maketh it vndenyable S. Greg. Nazianzē auerreth That the law of Christ hath subiected Princes to his Throne and Empyre S. Hierome sayth That Priests hauing the keyes of the kingdome of heauen iudge as it were before the day of iudgment S. Augustine vpon these wordes of the Apocalips I saw seates and those that sate vpon them and iudgment was giuen vnto them writeth thus This may not be thought to be spoken of the last iudgment but by the seates are meant the Rulers thrones of the Church and the Persons themselues by whome they are gouerned And for the iudgment giuen them it cannot be better explained then in these words Whatsoeuer yee bind on earth shal be bound in heauen and whatsoeuer yee loose on earth shall be loosed in Heauen 8. Hence we inferre the exact enumeration of all Sparks p. 329. 330. 331. grieuous crimes the third point M. Sparkes impugneth For as they that haue many strifs in law to be determined by the examination and sentence of the Iudge ought to vnfold them al in particuler to receaue his iudgment and verdict of them so they that are burdened with sundry faults which be offences and iniuryes committed against God if they will come to an attonement with him they must make them all knowne to such as are ordained to reconcile them to his fauour to such as participate to vse S. Gregoryes words the principality of Diuine iudgment Greg. ho. 26. in E●ang who in place of God may detaine sinnes to some release them to others When a souldiour hath receaued many woundes in warre it is not inough to tell his Surgeon or Phisitian in generall manner that he is wounded but he must shew Aug. serm 66. de tem the seuerall woundes and dangers of them or els no wise Surgeon will venter to apply his plaisters or vndertake to cure them euen so it is not sufficient for such as are wounded in Soule with diuers deadly sinnes to complaine in generall that they are grieuous sinners but they must particulerly specify the number quality and haynousnes of euery mortall crime that their spirituall Phisitian may thereby discerne what holsome salue whatsatisfactory pennance what good counsell and aduise he should minister vnto them And therfore S. Gregory Nyssen sayth That as in corporall infirmityes there are sundry kindes of Nyss epist ad Episco Mytil S. Tho. in Supplem ad 3. p. q. ● art 2. medicines according to the diuersity of diseases so whereas in the disease of the soule there is great variety of affections sundry sorts of medicinable cures ought to be adhibited The reason heereof S. Thomas alleadgeth because one disease is more dangerous by the contagion of another and that medicine which is holesome to that may be noyson to this kind of infirmity So that by the approued doctrin of both these learned writers euery penitent ought to make a particuler rehearsall of all haynous faults euen of such as be secret and hidden To which the same S. Gregory vehemently Nyss orat in mulierē peccatrie Audacter inquit ostēde illi quaesunt recondita animi arcana tāquam oeculta vulnera medico retege Hier. super Mat. cap. 16. exhorteth in another place that thereby the Priest may be perfectly acquainted with the whole state of their soules vnderstand the manifold varietyes of their spirituall diseases For as S. Hierome sayth Then the Bishop or Priest knoweth who is to be bound and who is to be loosed when he heareth the variety of sinnes 9. And this manner of confessing all particuler offences is that which Christ commanded which the figures of the old Testament betokned which the Apostles mētioned which in al succeeding ages hath byn deuoutly obserued in the Church of God Touching Christs commandment I haue already shewed that it is impossible for Priests to pronounce iudiciall sentence impossible to apply soueraigne medicines impossible to know what they should loose what retaine and consequently this Commission bootles vnles the Penitent were bound distinctly to name his sinnes vnto him Concerning the figures I let passe the confession God exacted of Adam of
chastise all the members of Christs mysticall body Thirdly he subioyneth Whatsoeuer thou shalt binde vpon earth it shall be bound also in the heauens Fourthly whatsoeuer thou shalt loose on earth it shall be loosed also in the heauens that is whatsoeuer punishment thou shalt inflict either of excōmunication suspension interdiction or degradation or whatsoeuer other spirituall Censure for he speaketh without restriction the same shall be ratified by Almighty God whatsoeuer of these thou shalt release the same shall be released in the heauens aboue Vpon which words Origen obserueth no small Orig. tract 6. in Math. difference betweene Peter and the rest of the Apostles because to them the Keyes of one heauen were giuen to Peter of many Whereupon he inferreth they had not authority in such perfection as Peter to bind and loose in all the heauens 5. Our Aduersaryes not doubting of the highest soueraignty M. Reyn-in his Cōference with M. Hart c. 2. diuis 1. M. Bils in his booke of Christian subiection par 1. fol. 62. 63. Reyn. ibi diuis 2. which by these singular priuiledges are betokened apply some to Christ some to all the Apostles but none peculiar to Peter alone For the first prerogatiue both M. Reynoldes and M. Bilson attribute vnto Christ affirming either him to be the Rocke vpon which the Church is built or the fayth which Peter pronounced of him and not Peter pronouncing the same The second the third and fourth Reynolds extendeth to all the Apostles because to them all the Keyes of the Kingdome of Heauen were giuen the power of binding and loosing and not only to Peter Silly men who see not how they crosse themselues in their owne answeres For our Sauiour speaking of one matter to one person in one and the same sentence to whomesoeuer he made the first promise to him he made the rest Therefore if he promised the Keyes to all the Apostles vpon them all he promised to build his Church and not vpon Christ Or if he promised to build his Church vpon himselfe to himselfe he promised the keyes of the Kingdome of heauen to himselfe he promised all power of binding loosing which had beene as impertinent to our Sauiours discourse as dissonant from truth For Christ had all that power before euen from the first houre he began to plante his Church he already enioyed those priuiledges not giuen by himselfe as the iurisdiction heere mentioned but imparted by his Father from whome he was sent 6. Againe as those answeres encounter one another The words of Christ import some extraordinary fauour to S Peter alone so they offer violence to the Text ech of them depriuing Peter of that soueraigne dignity which the whole passage of the place conueyeth vnto him For the wordes of Christ are purposly addressed to the person of Peter his name is only changed at this tyme and not any of the other Apostles he is called Rocke and none of the rest he only speaketh and professeth Christ to be the Sonne of the liuing God our Sauiour only nameth him and continually vseth the singular number yea he addeth the name of his Father to distinguish him not only from the Apostles in generall but also from the other Simon And shall not all these particiculer descriptions denote something in Peter more then in the rest If we appeale to the Greeke to the Hebrew especially to the Syriacke text in which Fabri in diction Syro-caldaicolero in c. 2. ad Gala ● language our Sauiour vttered this whole discourse it so euidently sheweth the very first promise to haue beene made to Peter and not to Christ as nothing can be more cleere For he speaking in Syriacke sayd vnto Peter Thou art Cephas and vpon this Cephas will I build my Church where the same word Cephas signifying as Guido Fabritius and S. Hierome testify a Rocke or Stone is vsed in both places And the Greeke wordes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 though different in termination signify the same Wherefore as if Christ speaking in English had imposed vnto Simon the name of a Rocke therupon had sayd Thou art a Rocke and vpon this Rocke will I build my church there would haue beene no doubt but that he had builded his Church vpon Simon the Rocke so neither in this present speaking the same in Syrtacke 7. M. Reynolds not able to resist confesseth at length Rain c. 2. diuis 1. pag. 24. that Fabritius translateth Cephas a Rocke But Fabritius sayth he sheweth further that Cephas signifyeth a Stone also And in the page immediatly following he addeth Cephas in Greeke is expounded 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in English signifyeth a Stone Whereupon he counteth this a fit trāslation of the former Syriacke wordes Thou art a Stone and vpon this Stone will I build my Church And what is this but to graunt the substance of the thing and wrangle about wordes For whether Peter were tearmed Rocke or Stone as long as he was that stone that singular stone which after Christ vpholdeth the frame of the militant Church of which the Apostles were part he was the fundamentall Cyr. l. 2. in Ioan c. 2. Cy● ep ad Quintum Tertul. l. de praescript Epipha in Ancorato Amb ser 47. Nazianz orat de moder ser Basil l. 2. in Eunomium Aug. in Psal con● partem Donati Bils part 1. pag. 62. Stone vpon which both they and all others were built And seeing the foundation is the same to a house which a head to a body he was the head of the whole body of the Church 8. The Fathers generally fortify the same S. Cyril writeth that Christ called Peter by the name of Rocke because on him as on a stedfast rocke or stone immoueable he was to build his Church S. Cyprian sayth Christ chose Peter vpon whome he builded his Church Tertullian tearmeth him Ecclesiae Petram The Rocke or foundation of the Church Reade the like in Epiphanius S. Ambrose S. Gregory Nazianzen S. Basil and S. Augustine of whome M. Bilson most wrongfully and slaunderously writeth That Peter is the Rocke on which the Church is built S. Augustine and others do plainely deny But what if S. Augustine deny it not plainely What if he deny it not at all What if he plainely auouch it and that in diuers places Will you euer giue credit againe to M. Bilsons writings Therfore he vpon the Psalmes sayth O Church that is O Peter because vpon this Rocke w●ll I build my Church Read the like vpon the 69. Psalme in his Sermons Our Lord named Peter the foundation of his Church therfore the Church rightly honoured this foundation vpon which the height of the Ecclesiasticall edifice is raysed Againe Only Peter August conc 2. in Psal 30. in Psal 69. Et ser 15. de Sanct. ser 29. qui est 5. de S. Petro Paulo Aug. l. 1. Retract cap. 21. Bils ●
Zuarez teach as well by preseruing her from sinne by his preuenting grace before she were touched with any infection as by cleansing her after she was once defiled As a man may be saued out of a dangerous pit eyther by warning giuen before or succour yielded after his fall 6. Our Blessed Lady reioyced in God her Sauiour she was the Queene of his chosen flocke redeemed by him by speciall preuention that she might not sinne not by subuention after her ruine Some peraduenture more curious in reading then iudicious or cunning in expounding the Fathers will vrge out of S. Augustine Nullus redimitur nisi is qui verè per peccatum fuerit antea captiuus No man is redeemed but he that hath serued vnder the yoke of sinne Which because the good Angells neuer did our Sauiour Christ who merited grace glory to them is not properly sayd to haue redeemed them No more can he be sayd to ēsranchise our Blessed Lady if she were neuer subiect to the bondage of sinne I answere it is true that he who is redeemed must haue beene first captiued either in himselfe or in the roote and origen from whence he springeth The good Angells were neither of these wayes euer inwrapped ad Rom. 3. v. 23. in the bandes of iniquity but the Virgin Mary howbeit she neuer sinned neither actually or originally in her selfe yet she truely proceeded from that roote or Hest. c. 15. vers 13. In Lege princeps §. de legibus Gen. 34. v. 16. v. 19. Aug. l. de natura gratia cap. 36. Cyp. ser de natiuitat Christi Amb. ser 22. in Psal 118. virgo per gratiā ab onmi integra labe peccati Nissen ho. 13. in Cātic. Ansel l. de concep virg l. de ex●ellen virg c. 3. Bonauent in 3. sent d. 3. Richard Victor ●an 39. Cant. 4. Iob. c. 6. v. 2. of spring in her parents from whence she should haue drawn by naturall propagation the corruption of sin had she not beene miraculously preserued and after this manner most perfectly redeemed had she not been by a singular prerogatiue exempted from that generall sentēce of S. Paul All haue sinned and need the glory of God Had she not beene priuiledged by God as Hester was by Assuerus when he spake vnto her Non pro te sed pro omnibus haec Lex constituta est Not for thee but for all this Law was enacted To which purpose Vlpianus sayth The Prince is not subiect to his owne Lawes and the Empresse although she be subiect yet the Prince graunteth her the same priuiledges himself enioyeth The Mother of God was the Queen the Lady the Empresse of the world to whome as her Sonne imparted that vnmatchable fauour to be free from the common malediction imposed vpon women In dolo reparies In dolour and griefe shalt thou bring forth thy children to be free from the vniuersall decree inflicted vpon all both men women In puluerem reuerteris Thou shalt returne into dust so likewise from the generall and absolute sentence of the Apostle All haue sinned c. 7. Therefore S. Augustine reckoning vp all the Patriarkes Prophets and iust persons to haue beene stayned with the blemish of some venial fault excepteth alwayes our Blessed Lady Of whome sayth he for the honour of our Lord when we talke of sinnes I will haue no question With whome S. Cyprian S. Ambrose Gregory Nissen S. Anselme S. Bonauenture and Richardus Victorinus agree who attribute vnto her that saying of the Canticles Thou art wholy beautifyed my beloued and there is no spot or blemish in thee No spot no blemish of sinne suffering notwithstanding many dolorous griefes she abounded with great satisfaction treasured vp in the store-house of the Church 8. Iob abounded with the like affirming of himself I would to God my sinnes by which I haue prouoked the wrath of God and the calamity which I suffer were waighed in a ballance like the sand of the sea this would seeme more heauy S. Mary Magdalen Colos 1. v. 24. the Apostles sundry Martyrs and other holy persons haue abounded with the like Especially S. Paul who writeth thus I accomplish those thinges that want of the Passions of Christ in my flesh for his body which is the Church Fulke in c. ● ad Colos sect 4. And what was this which was wanting to the sufferings of Christ Was there any defect in his Passiō No. Was this suffering then of the Apostle only as M. Fulke answereth for the glory of God and confirmation of the Church in fayth of the Ghospell No. It was also as th wordes enforce to fullfill the plenitude of Christs and his members passions for the benefit of the Church and behoofe of others to Aug. in Psal 6● whome they be communicated For as Christ our head withall his elect make one mysticall common and publicke body so his sufferings with the afflictions of his members concurre to make vp as S. Augustine sayth one common and publique weale one generall and publicke treasure To which when we add we accomplish with S. Paul Aug. ibid. Orig hom 10. 24. in Num. that which is wanting to the Passions of Christ and for the debt of sinne according to our meane ability to speake with the same S. Augustine we pay that we owe. Which Origen also taught long before him and strengthned with some testimonyes of holy Writ 9. Touching the second point that this common treasure of penall afflictions is dispensable vnto others by them to whome God hath committed the gouernement Matth. 18. of his Church is likewise plaine by those wordes of Christ Whatsoeuer yee shall loose vpon earth shall be loosed in heauen And principally by those he vsed to S. Peter Matth. 16. Whatsoeuer thou shalt loose in earth shal be loosed also in the heauens which being generally spoken without restriction are not only to be expounded of all spirituall power to forgiue sinnes in the holy Sacraments by application of Christs merits but also to release punishment out of the Sacrament by dispensing his owne and his Saints satisfactions 1. Cor. 2. Theodoret vpon this place Cyp. ep 13. 14. 15. Tertul. l. ad Martyr Concil 1. Nicaen can ●1 Thus S. Paul graunted Indulgence to the incestuous Corinthian of his deserued punishment whome at the intercession as Theodoret writeth of Timothy and Titus he pardoned in the person of Christ Thus the Bishops of the Primitiue Church gaue many pardons and Iudulgences to sundry Penitents by the mediation of Confessours or designed Mattyrs of which S. Cyprian and Tertullian make mention Thus the first Councell of Nice appointed mercy and Indulgence to be vsed to such as perfectly repented wheras others should performe and expect their whole tyme of pennance All these pardons and many mor● which S. Gregory the a Tho. in 4. sent dis 20. q. 1 art 3. Great b Abbas Vrspergen in chron Fulke in c.
in heauen Which words Valentine and Apollinaris misconstruing gainsayd the miste●ry See Medina introduct in ● p. q. 3. Th●op in hunc loc of Christs Incarnation and would needs haue his flesh to haue descended from heauen as his manhood after ascended thither Neyther did they want semblance of places the card of Protestancy to direct them for matching this text with another of S. Paul to the Ephesians they found coherence He that descended the same is also he Ephes c. 4. v. 10. that is ascended And least the obscurity of either might darken their vnderstanding they opened them both by this plaine obuious and euident sentence Primus homo de ● Cor. 15. v. 47. terra terrenus Secundus homo de caelo caelestis The first man of earth earthly the second man of heauen heauenly 19. Let our Ghospellers vaunt as long as they list of the perspicuity and patronage of Scripture neuer can they bring in any controuersy whatsoeuer so many in their behalfe or one so cleare a place as this Or if they could might they not be blinded might they not be inueigled as these impes of Satan were M. Fields opinion is they might We confesse sayth he that neyther conference Field l. 4. c. 19. pag. ●●4 of places nor consideration of the things precedent and subsequent nor looking into the originalls are of any force vnlesse we find the things which we conceaue to be vaderstood and meant in the places interpreted to be consonant to the rule of fayth And this rule of fayth as he further teacheth must be tryed Field l. 4. ibid. pag. 242. eyther by the Generall practise of the Church the renowned of all ages or the Pastours of an Apostolicall Church Which to omit all other examples is clearly seene in the Translatours of our English Protestants Bible Who although they had skill in tongues studied Scriptures ransacked Originalls examined places yet rouing from the marke M. Field prescribeth most pitiously erred in their vulgar Translation Witnesse hereof 20. D. Reinolds who disputed against it in his Maiesties Rein. in the Conference at Hampt Court p. 45. 46 c. Burges in his Apol. sect 6. Carleile in his booke that Christ went not downe to Hellp 116. 144. Broughton in his epistle to the Counsel presence at Hampton Court M. Burges a man of the same sect who affirme●h That the approued English Protestant translation hath many omissions many additions which sometyme obscureth sometyme peruerteth the sense M. Carleile another brother of this disordred crew hauing discouered many faults in the English Bible of them inferreth That the English Protestants in many places detort the Scriptures from their right sense and shew themselues to loue darknesse more then light and falshood more then truth They haue corrupted and depraued the sense obscured the truth deceaued the ignorant and supplanted the simple Likewise M. Broughton one of the chiefest Linguists amongst our late Precisians who not many yeares ago wrote an Epistle to the Lords of the Counsell which is yet extant desireth them to procure speedily a new translation Because that quoth he which is now in England is full of errours And in his aduertisment of Corruptions he denounceth to the Protestant Bishops Broughto● in his Aduert to the Bishops That their publike translation of Scripturs into English is such as it peruerteth the text of the old Testament in 848. places And that it causeth millions of millions to reiect the new Testament and to runne to eternall flames 21. So that if these rare men furnished with so manifold helpes endued with the knowledge of sundry tongues guided by their owne rules to attaine the right sense and meaning of holy write and allowed by publike authority to translate the same swa●ued notwithstāding sunke into the gulfe of such detestable errours what shall we thinke of others of meaner talents What hope can any one haue not to stray in this vast wildernes of conferring places And if the English Bible which now is commonly read in Churches and expounded in pulpits be euery where stayned with the spots of pestilent and pernicious falshood in what wofull case are they who credit it as the Oracle of God They who repayre vnto it as to the treasure of life the touchstone of truth They who neither vnderstanding the Greeke Latin or Hebrew ought to appeale in all doubts of fayth to the high Tribunall of this corrupted Iudge Whose sentence as their owne Ghospellers testify is depraued obscured detorted from the right sense deceaueth the ignorant supplanteth the simple peruerteth the text in so many places as it carrieth millions of millions to eternall flames Open therfore your eyes my beloued Countrymen and see in what daunger you liue daunger of receauing the doome of falshood the sentence of death in lieu of the soueraigne verdict of Gods sacred truth 22. Since the first edition of this worke was published I haue seene a certaine abrupt and broken answer secretly spread abroad to many of my former arguments the summe whereof is this That there is a great difference beweene the word of God and man for the later filleth the eare with the sound and the hearers mind with a like conceit cleare or obscure conformable to the signification it beareth but the word of God worketh not only in the eare immediatly but also in the Certaine shifts of the aduersaries refuted hart in such sort that although the exteriour word be darke and ambiguous yet by interiour inspiration it may produce a cleare conceit of the thing signifyed in the hearers mind By which means sayth this Respondent the spirit of God speaking in his diuine word and working interiourly in the hart is the supreme rule or Iudge of all Controuersyes By which meanes it heareth vnderstandeth explaineth and compelleth the Appellants to receaue th● sentence giuen By which meanes it causeth infallible certainty vttereth it selfe clearely manifestly condemneth the guilty persons and performeth such thinges as are necessary to the office of a Iudge So he Yet all in couert not deeming his reply polished inough for open view because our question is not what God may do or what his inspiration may produce but what he ordinarily doth and whome he hath established his ordinary Iudge in determining debates what publicke and vniuersal rule what infallible ground or foundation we haue of our beliefe which we ought to follow to which others are bound to submit themselues and by which we are alwayes directed the right way of Truth This is not as I haue shewed the outward word or the inward working of the holy Ghost in the harts of euery particuler man 1. Because the faythfull cannot without some other particuler help be infallibly assured of that inspiration or working of the holy Ghost whether it be naturall or supernaturall from God or not they cannot be infallibly assured that they truly conceaue the sense reuealed and belieue it a right
speaking to their harts By which All Heretikes according to S. Augustine who receaue the authority of the Scriptures perswade themselues they follow them whereas they rather follow their owne errours 27. Hence it also proceedeth that if no other ground or foundation be assigned no heretike could be noted or condemned of heresy nay as Suarez that great Suarez l. 1. defens fid cap. 11. Deuine heereupon inferreth No heretike should be or heresy at all no man ought to be compelled to the vnity of sayth and fellowship of one Religion to which the Scripture so often exhorteth and God requireth as necessary to saluation For if it be inough for euery one to appeale to the tribunall of his owne as he deemeth inspired conscience who can decline from the rule of Fayth Who can swarue from his owne particuler iudgment forsake that guide foundation of beliefe which himselfe broacheth and boldly vaunteth to come from God Who then can be an heretike or what heresy be vented If that be the square of fayth who ought to be compelled by forsaking that rule to conforme himselfe to another profession Euery one may safely remaine in his owne religion as long as they verily thinke which all men easily do that they haue receaued the riches of the spirit in as great measure as any other For this reason D. Whitguift alleadged why the Church of England need VVhitg in his defens against Cart●r not submit it selfe to the Church of Geneua The same reason may the Brownist alleadge why he should not yield to the Puritan the Puritan for not conforming himselfe to the Protestant and one Protestant why he should not subscribe to the iudgment of another Therefore besides the inward inspiration there must be some other outward vndeceauable and ouer-ruling Iudge or els God hath not sufficiently prouided for the necessityes of his Church not for her peace concord and stability not for her vnity in fayth certainty of beliefe not for the obedience and submission of her children not for the ending of quarrells decision of doubts and rooting out of errours But of this againe in the next chapter where my Aduersary might haue read this very obiection answered if he had not heere importunly vrged it out of due order time and place 28. The shew of reason which this Respondent Obiections The first bringeth to proue the iudgment of the secret spirit is to this effect First sayth he the Church receaueth from God inspiring her the right sense of Scripture he must first decide the cōtrouersy in her mind before she can exteriourly decide what they are bound to belieue therefore the spirit of God speaking in her hart is the supreme Iudge of Controuersyes euen in the opinion of vs Catholikes Secondly he proueth that the same spirit speaking The second in the diuine word to euery particuler man was likewise iudge in the law of Nature because at that tyme there were no other ordinations then such as did necessarily follow out of the eleuating of mankind to a supernaturall end but out of that it no way followes that al the faythfull were to obey one supreme Pastour Thirdly The third in the law written there was not one Gouernour the faythfull among the Iewes being without any subordination to any one among the Gentills And the Gentils had no subordination to the high Priest of the Iewes The fourth Fourthly it must be acknowledged sayth he by the aduerse part that the spirit of God as speaking in particular to euery man decideth which company of the professors of Christianity is the true Church and by consequence Answers To the first the same spirit determineth in the same manner all other controuersies Thus he To the first I answere that the motions inwardly inspired to the pastours of the church are no iudiciall sentences nor finall decisions of matters controuerted they are not any infallible rules neither to others to whom they are vnknowen nor to themselues to whome they are vncertaine vntill they be outwardly decreed and iointly subscribed vnto by the suffrages of all both head and members For vntill then they be not made one common voice one publik law one generall consent or definitiue sentence pronounced by them all they are not the last and highest Tribunal of the Church to which euery one is bound to submit himselfe without further appeale To the second I reply with D. Sanders other learned Deuines It is false that To the second Sander de visib Monar l. 4. c. 3. 4. there was no other ordinary Iudge in the law of Nature then Gods priuate instruction for Adam during his life was the chiefe head supreme directour of Gods people in points of fayth Then Seth after Enos c. And so in succeeding ages the first borne or eldest among the faithfull by the prerogatiue of his primogeniture or some other by Gods speciall election discharged that office which did also necessarily follow out of the eleuation of mankind to a supernaturall end supposing the sweetnes of diuine prouidence after mans fall and want of fayth To the third I answere that God himmselfe in the written To the third Deut. 17. vers 12. law appointed one high Priest and supreme Iudge among the Iewes He that shall be proude refusing to obey the Commandment of the Priest which at that tyme ministreth to our Lord thy God and the decree of the Iudge that man shall dye To whome notwithstanding the faithfull amongst the Gentils were not subiect because they had no such positiue precept imposed vpon them they were then separated and diuided from that chosen company by which the lineall and visible succession of the Church was propagated and continued Yet if they liued according to the prescript of reason and light of nature the necessary mysteryes of fayth were reuealed vnto them either by God himselfe or by an Angell or by some other inuiolable tradition Which being an extraordinary course can neither be a warrant for particular men to challeng the like nor preiudice the ordinary way which the diuine wisdome vseth in instructing his seruants especially now in the law of grace in which he hath subiected both Iew and Gentile to the obedience of one head supreme pastour according to that which our sauiour said Other sheepe I haue which are not of this fold them also must I bring and they shall heare my voice and there Ioan. 10. 16. shall be made one fold and one pastour Which cannot be vnderstood of Christ as he inuisibly feedeth and gouerneth his flocke for so there was alwayes one fold Cyprian l. 1. ep 6. ad Magnum and one pastour but of his visible headship and of his secondary also and visible pastour who now succeedeth him of whome S. Cyprian interpreteth those words 27. To the fourth I deny the Antecedent for that which first decideth what society of Christians is the To the Fourth true
Conference of originall texts the promise which Christ made the institution of a Sacrament the establishment of a Law the enacting of his last Will and Testament conuince as I say a most true and proper kind of speach 11. Yet because some Protestants challenge vs to assigne a disparity why there should not be Transubstantiation Ioan. 15. v. 1. when he said I am a Vine as well as when he said This is my Body I assigne these differences First Transubstātiation is a passage frō one substance into another which supposeth two substances to be and one to loose his being by incompossibility with the other So in my present case there are two substances Bread and the Body of Christ and the one by Consecration is changed into the other but when Christ said I am the Dore I am the true Vine there is one only substance For the Vine the Dore doth not signifie any other Dore then Christ himselfe He is that spirituall Dore that true spirituall Vine to whom some propertie of the corporall Vine and Dore in a most eminent degree belongeth And therefore here it is impossible any Transubstantiation should be 12. Further S. Augustine giueth this rule to discerne a Aug. l. 3. de doct Christ c. 10 Vnum disparatum non potest de alto praedicari figuratiue speach from a proper when that which is spoken in Holy Writ Cannot properly be referred either to honesty of manners or verity of faith it is be expounded figuratiuely But it is repugnant to reason that one substance should be properly affirmed of another much more so many different substances verified of Christ as he is said to be a Vine a Dore a Shepheard and such like Repugnant to faith that the Sonne of God should be changed into the Vine which groweth in the field I am the Lord saith Malachy and am Mala. 3. v. 6. not changed Dishonorable to God to change the noblest creature that euer was the humanity of our Sauiour Christ into so ignoble as a Vine or Dore. Disagreable to the vvordes themselues for in this proposition I am the Vine Christ is auouched to be therfore he cannot by transubstantiation at the same time loose his being And yet at our Lords supper not one of these incōueniences follow Heere one different thing is not verifyed of the other but that which the Pronowne this doth in generall inderminatly demonstrate vnder the formes of bread is particulerly specifyed when the complete signification of the wordes is indeed to be the body of Christ Moreouer this change is possible for bread was often changed into the flesh and wine into the bloud of Christ when he was nourished vpon earth This change is honorable to God of worse to better of an ignoble thing into a most noble of common bread in to the bread of life into the immaculate flesh of the Sonne of God In this bread is not sayd to reserue any being but another substance that is to say Christs body and bloud sustayning the accidents of bread and wine by reason whereof they loose their being Such and many other reasons there are of Transubstantiation in the one and not in the other 13. M. Sparks presseth vs with that maine obiection their chiefe Achilles It is the spirit that quickneth the flesh profiteth nothing Nothing indeed Then the word to become Sparks p. 109. Io. 6. Aug. tra 27. in Io. Cyr. ad ●uo Cyr. in Io. l. 4. c. 23. Conc. Eph. anath 11. Aug. 27. in Ioan in Psal 98. Chrys in hunc loc Orig. l. 3. ep ad Rom Aug. locis citatis flesh benefiteth nothing Then the flesh of Christ crucifyed buryed reuiued what doth it auaile vs The sense therefore of these words is that the Capharnaites grosse and carnall vnderstanding of them profited nothing For they imagined they should eate dead flesh the flesh of a meere man depriued of the life soule diuinity as Nestorius also weened of which flesh our Sauiour pronounced that it profiteth nothing But it is the Word and Spirit of God in the flesh that quickneth and giueth life as S. Cyril against Nestorius S. Augustine and the Ephesine Councell declare Secondly they thought that Christ would cut in peeces sayth the same S. Augustine and mangle his owne flesh and so giue vs to eate as it is commonly sould in the Butchers shambles Which rude and sauage conceite our Sauiour also reiected as togeather with him S. Chrysostome Origen and others obserue As though he speaking to their thoughts had sayd The flesh after that manner profiteth nothing It is the spirit that quickneth to wit a more diuine spirituall and sacramentall manner of eating his flesh affoardeth vs the fruit of eternall life 14. Our Opponents at length not able to find any footing in Scripture take hold of the Fathers quoting many passages wherin the Sacrament is called A remembrance a signe a figure of Christs body therefore not his true body The like oposition Apollinaris and Marcion made against the humanity Sparks p. 110. seq Bils 4. par p. 716. 717 of Christ That he was made according to the similitude ●hape and likenesse of man The like others framed against his diuinity that S. Paul intitleth him The Image of God the Character or figure of his Fathers substance But as both we Phil. 2. v. 7. Col. 1. v. 15. Haeb. 1. v. 3. Orig. in c. 15. Matt. Aug. c●t Adaman 12. l. 3. de Trin. c. 4. Basil in his Liturgy Nazi ora in Gorg. Macar hom 27. Theod. in dialog 1. Aug. in Psal 98. Aug. l. 5. de doct Christ c. 13 Facinus est tract 25. in Io. and you reply hereunto that Christ had the likenesse of man and was a true and perfect man was the image of God yet true God the figure of his Fathers substance and the substance it selfe so I say the Eucharist is a commemoration and signe of Christs body and also his true and naturall body It is a signe in respect of the externall and visible elements which do not promise grace absent only as our Sectaryes teach but containe the Authour of grace and body of our Lord inuisibly present as Origen Augustine and all others auouch 15. Againe not only the outward formes but the body of Christ as vnder them is a Sacrament Image or Signe of his body as offered on the Crosse For although it be the same body in substance yet not in shew and appearance not endued with the same qualities of extension passibility circumscription c. In this sense S. Basill S. Gregory Nazianzen Macharius Theodoret call it an Image a Figure In this sense S. Augustine writeth Not that body which you see shall you eat nor drinke that bloud which shall be shed by them that crucifie me That is not that body in such a carnall palpable and bloudy sort For this in his booke of Christian Doctrine he counteth an hainous and barbarous fact
to no other is the guilt to be imputed especially he being as you maintaine the principall agent and they his instruments in atchieuing wickednes which if you rightly beleeued in the true God of heauen were so great an impiety as hell it self cannot breath forth a greater Neither need I alledge places of scripture they are so infinite or other testimonies the light of reason is manifest and cleere that our soueraigne God cannot sinne And that the reprobate in generall haue their wills free from the thraldom of sinne the very lawes and commandements of God and man the rewards and punishments of all common wealths the threats and persuasions so often proposed vnto them in holy Scripture do abundantly witnesse as I haue els where largly demonstrated Therfore I heere passe thē ouer with this saying of S. Augustine vvho discoursing of those reprobate who refused to come to the heauenly supper Aug. li. 83. qq q. 63. prepared for them sayth Those that wold not come ought not to attribute it to any other but only to themselues Exod. 8. 2. because vt venirent v●cati erat in libera voluntate being called it was in their freewill to come The scripture likewise Exod 9. 1. 2. speaking of Pharao in particular declareth his absolute freedome saying dismisse my people c. but if thou wilt not Exod. 10. 3. 4. And in the next chapter dismisse my people to sacrifice vnto me and if thou refuse and holdest them And again til when wilt thou not be subiect vnto me Dismisse my people but if thou resist wilt not c. Wherefore vnlesse a man vvill be as obstinate as Pharao was he must needs graunt that his will was free Aug. lib. de praed gr cap. 15. and not necessarily deteyned in the captiuity of sinne els as Origen vrgeth why doth god blame him saying but thou because thou wilt not dismisse my people behold I will strike all the first borne in Aegypt And S. Augustin expressely teacheth that he was not thrall to sinne but that he did freely of his owne accord rebell against the hand of God comparing him thus with Nabuchodonozor Touching their nature they were both men touching their dignity both Kings touching their cause both deteyned the captiued people of God touching their punishment both with chastisements were benignly admonished what therfore made their ends so different but that one feeling the hand of God groaned and lamented with the remembrance of his owne iniquity the other warred with his freewill against the mercifull truth of God 3. The seauenth heresie auerreth that the liberty of free-will Fulk in ca. 8. ad Rom. sect 8. is not only captiue in the reprobate but abolished also in Gods elect for these be Fulkes owne words The eternall predestination of God excludeth the merits of man and the power of his will therby to attayne to eternall life But S. Thomas S. Thom. 1. p. q. 23. ●rt 2. our Angelicall Doctour teacheth that predestination putteth nothing in the predestinate nor any way altereth the faculty of his will for it is nothing els according to him and all other Deuines but the eternal purpose and decree wherby God ordeineth and directeth some by supernaturall meanes to the attayning of euerlasting blisse which he sweet●ly bringeth to passe not by any phisicall motion or necessarie determination but by certaine moral inspirations callings and persuasions c. setting before them such forcible reasons and motiues so effectuall in tyme and p●lace so fitt with such apparant shew of honest profitable and delightsome good as he mildly draweth them without any let or hinderance to the liberty of their will leauing it to worke with the same connaturall choice and indifferency as if there were no such decree or purpose at all otherwise how are the elect counsayled exhorted encouraged and commanded in holy writ to purchase their heauenly blisse How is the kingdome of heauen proposed as a crowne as a goale as a reward to be wonne bought and gayned by their labours if they haue no power to gayne it How are they honoured and praysed who valiantly striue in this behalfe they blamed rebuked who are idle lazy vnlesse they haue free power to work attayne their saluation But of mās freedom euen in things supernaturall I haue sayd inough in the 24. 25. Controuersyes Now I follow on my way 4. From those latter heads of heresy other heretīcall Fulk in ca. 8. ad Rom. sect 9. Caluin l ● institut §. 7. 28. 29. 43. l. 4 in s●it cap. ●7 §. 2. Fox Act and Mon● Tom. 2. where h● re●itethand approueth these words of Tindaii● positions take their beginning to wit that the elect do what they will cannot possibly be damned nor the reprobate be saued that they can neuer vtterly loose the fauour of God nor these truly enioy it For thus saith Fulke Euery christian man which is indued with faith and hope may and ought to be infallibly assured that he is iustified and shall be saued Caluin Let all the faithfull be bold safely to assure themselues that they can no more faile of the kingdome of heauen into which Christ is already entred then Christ himselfe Fox also We haue as much right to heauen as Christ hath we cannot be damned vnlesse Christ be damned nor can Christ be saued vnlesse we he saued But as touching the reprobate they according to Fulke are antecedently ordeyned to destruction by Gods immutable counsaile they are necessarily tyed to the slauery of sinne they cannot repent or beleeue therfore they haue no power at all to gayne their saluation or 2. Timoth. 2. 20. purchase the fauour of God A most pernicions and damnable assertion cleane crosse to the saying of the Apostle In a great house there are not only vessells of gold and siluer but of wood and earth and some truly vnto honour and some vnto contumelie if any therfore shall cleanse himselfe from these he shal be a vessell for honour sanctified and profitable for our Lord prepared for euery good worke Therfore the reprobate which are vessels of wrath and contumelie may purge themselues become vessels of honour vessels of election Then Cain Gen. 4. 6. was a reprobate yet he might haue returned if he would into the state of grace and fauour of the highest as appeareth by the expostulation God vsed vnto him Why art thou angry and why is thy countenance fallen By the condition he proposeth If thou do well By the promise he maketh shalt thou not receaue again By the commination or threat he addeth but if thou doest ill shall not thy sinne forthwith be present Esau was a reprobate and yet S. Augustin Aug. l. ● ad Simplic q. 2. sayth of him Esau was not willing and runned not but if he had bin willing and had runned he had arriued at the goale by the help of God who also by calling wold