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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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vnum_fw-la quid_fw-la as_o it_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n uniri_fw-la thing_n valen_n disput_fw-la 6._o in_o 3._o tho._n punct_a 1._o sect._n 19_o christum_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la accidentia_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n veer_fw-mi proprie_fw-la formaliter_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la uniri_fw-la greg._n de_fw-fr val._n prove_v christ_n and_o those_o accident_n to_o be_v true_o proper_o formal_o unite_v from_o hence_o as_o i_o say_v many_o inconvenience_n follow_v for_o what_o happen_v to_o the_o species_n must_v also_o to_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n three_o if_o we_o consider_v this_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o sacrament_n we_o may_v well_o put_v the_o question_n how_o can_v accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n without_o their_o proper_a subject_n how_o can_v they_o supply_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o to_o the_o outward_a part_n of_o it_o without_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n or_o if_o the_o body_n and_o 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which_o he_o here_o must_v suppose_v that_o a_o soul_n can_v be_v in_o several_a body_n distant_a one_o from_o other_o or_o a_o angel_n in_o distant_a place_n at_o once_o therefore_o they_o be_v force_v to_o take_v in_o god_n property_n of_o be_v present_a in_o many_o place_n loco_fw-la l_o 3_o c_o 4._o de_fw-fr enchar_n quomdo_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la mr._n spencer_n learn_v it_o of_o the_o cardinal_n affirm_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v in_o place_n as_o god_n be_v to_o that_o of_o penetration_n of_o part_n if_o our_o saviour_n body_n shall_v be_v contain_v in_o the_o least_o part_n or_o crumb_n of_o the_o host_n dimension_n penetration_n of_o dimension_n he_o answer_v by_o our_o saviour_n body_n pass_v through_o the_o door_n and_o through_o his_o mother_n womb_n both_o be_v shut_v but_o it_o be_v no_o where_o say_v they_o remain_v absolute_o shut_v 6._o shut_v in_o 4._o scent_n do_v in_o 44._o qu._n 6._o durand_n show_v how_o with_o more_o reason_n it_o 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body_n expose_v to_o indignity_n then_o may_v cat_n and_o rat_n eat_v it_o this_o objection_n be_v not_o careful_o express_v for_o such_o inconvenience_n do_v not_o follow_v upon_o a_o real_a presence_n but_o such_o a_o presence_n as_o the_o romanist_n fancy_n which_o bind_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n to_o the_o species_n and_o so_o make_v it_o liable_a to_o all_o the_o indignity_n which_o happen_v to_o they_o but_o see_v how_o he_o will_v answer_v it_o by_o the_o like_a as_o he_o suppose_v if_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v he_o be_v real_o in_o the_o passion_n then_o may_v dog_n eat_v his_o blood_n that_o be_v shed_v as_o if_o it_o be_v alike_o what_o be_v do_v to_o his_o passable_a body_n appoint_v then_o to_o suffer_v and_o do_v now_o to_o his_o glorious_a body_n all_o the_o disgrace_n and_o indignity_n that_o be_v do_v or_o can_v happen_v unto_o he_o then_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o work_n he_o come_v about_o viz._n to_o redeem_v we_o by_o suffer_v and_o 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and_o however_o it_o please_v god_n to_o deal_v in_o mercy_n with_o the_o poor_a abuse_a people_n yet_o no_o man_n can_v assure_v himself_o of_o receive_v the_o grace_n of_o this_o sacrament_n that_o do_v wilful_o neglect_v and_o refuse_v to_o receive_v it_o as_o our_o saviour_n institute_v and_o appoint_v it_o but_o see_v how_o he_o will_v stop_v the_o people_n mouth_n in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o point_n by_o tell_v they_o that_o albeit_o they_o want_v the_o extent_n of_o grace_n which_o priest_n have_v by_o receive_v in_o both_o kind_n yet_o they_o have_v sufficient_a and_o that_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o have_v respect_n not_o only_o to_o their_o own_o spiritual_a profit_n in_o the_o increase_n of_o grace_n by_o this_o sacrament_n but_o also_o to_o the_o reverence_n due_a unto_o it_o and_o must_v be_v content_a to_o want_v that_o increase_n when_o it_o can_v be_v obtain_v but_o by_o some_o irreverence_n offer_v to_o this_o divine_a sacrament_n p._n 335._o as_o if_o our_o saviour_n intend_v the_o participation_n of_o his_o blood_n shed_v and_o bid_v all_o to_o drink_v thereof_o can_v not_o or_o do_v not_o foresee_v what_o inconvenience_n will_v or_o may_v happen_v upon_o the_o observe_n of_o what_o he_o appoint_v and_o as_o if_o the_o great_a irreverence_n be_v not_o disobedience_n and_o obedience_n to_o his_o will_n the_o great_a reverence_n but_o the_o reverence_n and_o honour_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v hereby_o provide_v for_o among_o they_o and_o the_o people_n must_v be_v content_a with_o a_o mutilate_n and_o incomplete_a sacrament_n the_o next_o argument_n be_v from_o the_o precept_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o cup._n all_o command_v to_o drink_v of_o the_o cup._n p._n 341._o where_o he_o pitiful_o shuffle_n run_v backward_o and_o forward_o to_o evade_v the_o force_n of_o it_o first_o he_o will_v have_v it_o no_o command_n notwithstanding_o that_o the_o speech_n be_v plain_o imperative_fw-it as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o do_v this_o in_o which_o they_o place_v a_o strict_a command_n his_o instance_n of_o like_a speech_n will_v appear_v impertinent_a if_o compare_v with_o this_o as_o jo._n 13.14_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o ought_v to_o wash_v the_o speech_n be_v not_o imperative_fw-it but_o indicative_a of_o a_o duty_n teach_v they_o by_o that_o action_n or_o example_n of_o our_o saviour_n wash_v their_o foot_n viz._n the_o duty_n of_o humility_n not_o bind_v they_o to_o that_o very_a action_n or_o expression_n by_o wash_v as_o this_o precept_n of_o drink_v do_v and_o needs_o must_v bind_v all_o who_o come_v to_o receive_v and_o when_o they_o come_v now_o that_o of_o mat._n 26.26_o take_v though_o it_o do_v not_o absolute_o command_v the_o mode_n or_o manner_n of_o take_v it_o in_o the_o hand_n he_o aim_v in_o this_o instance_n at_o the_o priest_n put_v it_o into_o their_o mouth_n yet_o do_v it_o peremptory_o command_v a_o take_n which_o amount_v to_o a_o receive_n this_o be_v the_o substance_n or_o necessary_a requisite_a of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o other_o by_o hand_n or_o by_o mouth_n immediate_o be_v but_o of_o the_o mode_n or_o circumstance_n again_o be_v loath_a to_o have_v it_o a_o command_n the_o word_n say_v he_o of_o themselves_o can_v import_v a_o command_n but_o may_v signify_v only_o a_o bare_a invitation_n as_o when_o we_o say_v to_o a_o guest_n sit_v down_o eat_z and_o drink_v of_o this_o or_o that_o p._n 334._o but_o he_o shall_v have_v consider_v that_o if_o they_o may_v signify_v only_o a_o bare_a invitation_n than_o the_o one_o as_o well_o as_o other_o and_o both_o of_o they_o the_o eat_v and_o drinkng_v may_v be_v refuse_v and_o so_o the_o sacrament_n leave_v free_a for_o every_o one_o to_o receive_v or_o not_o to_o receive_v it_o at_o all_o which_o below_o he_o will_v deny_v again_o though_o it_o be_v but_o manner_n among_o man_n to_o leave_v a_o guest_n at_o his_o liberty_n and_o therefore_o such_o word_n imply_v a_o freedom_n leave_v they_o do_v not_o impose_v a_o necessity_n or_o duty_n as_o this_o ordain_v of_o this_o sacrament_n do_v where_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n by_o drink_v and_o eat_v and_o do_v so_o as_o at_o first_o be_v do_v to_o remember_v and_o show_v forth_o our_o saviour_n death_n and_o withal_o it_o be_v our_o great_a and_o necessary_a concernment_n to_o receive_v the_o benefit_n there_o offer_v and_o yet_o you_o use_v not_o the_o people_n so_o kind_o as_o a_o man_n that_o make_v a_o feast_n do_v his_o guest_n for_o dare_v you_o thus_o invite_v the_o people_n and_o give_v they_o the_o freedom_n to_o eat_v and_o drink_v do_v not_o the_o priest_n notwithstanding_o those_o word_n of_o invitation_n eat_v and_o drink_v up_o all_o himself_n in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o people_n look_v on_o only_o nay_o be_v not_o this_o invitation_n come_v to_o a_o plain_a interdict_v a_o forbid_v of_o the_o people_n to_o receive_v the_o cup_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o say_v our_o saviour_n you_o shall_v not_o drink_v of_o this_o say_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o may_v add_v be_v not_o this_o a_o mock_n of_o the_o people_n nay_o be_v it_o not_o a_o mock_n of_o almighty_a god_n when_o in_o a_o prayer_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o mass_n it_o be_v say_v by_o the_o priest_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a practice_n quotquot_fw-la sumpserimus_fw-la imply_v that_o other_o have_v receive_v with_o the_o priest_n and_o in_o both_o kind_n whereas_o none_o do_v nor_o be_v suffer_v to_o do_v at_o length_n mr._n spencer_n yield_v a_o command_n give_v in_o those_o word_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o but_o give_v to_o the_o apostle_n only_o and_o extendible_a to_o bishop_n and_o priest_n but_o why_o to_o they_o and_o no_o far_o here_o he_o seem_v to_o refer_v the_o meaning_n and_o extent_n of_o such_o command_v give_v without_o limitation_n to_o the_o practice_n and_o perpetual_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 344_o 345._o we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o be_v a_o good_a direction_n for_o understand_a matter_n of_o practice_n and_o in_o this_o point_n we_o affirm_v and_o be_v sure_a the_o practice_n and_o perpetual_a tradition_n of_o the_o church_n for_o above_o 12._o hundred_o year_n be_v against_o this_o romish_a innovation_n and_o we_o be_v sure_a that_o antiquity_n be_v against_o they_o as_o concern_v the_o capacity_n of_o those_o person_n to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n be_v first_o give_v and_o who_o be_v then_o bid_v all_o of_o they_o to_o drink_v which_o must_v therefore_o be_v extendible_a not_o only_o to_o bishop_n and_o priest_n but_o to_o all_o faithful_a christian_n who_o be_v then_o represent_v in_o those_o first_o person_n now_o as_o for_o the_o other_o precept_n do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o allpresent_v do_v this_o concern_v allpresent_v he_o will_v have_v a_o strict_a command_n in_o those_o word_n so_o far_o as_o concern_v the_o priest_n to_o bless_v consecrate_v offer_v administer_v 346._o but_o it_o be_v plain_a the_o priest_n do_v not_o as_o our_o saviour_n do_v for_o he_o do_v not_o administer_v so_o oft_o as_o he_o consecrate_v and_o when_o he_o do_v administer_v it_o be_v not_o in_o both_o kind_n as_o our_o saviour_n do_v again_o if_o the_o priest_n be_v hereby_o bind_v to_o administer_v be_v not_o the_o people_n consequent_o bind_v to_o receive_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o grant_v it_o yet_o but_o shall_v below_o here_o he_o make_v instance_n in_o priesthood_n and_o marriage_n which_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o administer_v when_o just_o require_v to_o do_v it_o yet_o be_v no_o man_n bind_v to_o receive_v the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o 347._o it_o be_v still_o the_o hap_n of_o his_o instance_n to_o be_v impertinent_a for_o he_o himself_o acknowledge_v a_o little_a below_o the_o disparity_n between_o receive_v of_o priesthood_n or_o marrioge_n and_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n under_o both_o kind_n the_o disparity_n i_o say_v between_o they_o as_o to_o 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