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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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admit_v in_o some_o other_o ●t_a in_o a_o scholar_n that_o pretend_v to_o ha●_n read_v the_o question_n in_o he_o and_o ●●th_v urge_v his_o authority_n against_o the_o church_n of_o god_n such_o a_o pretence_n ●th_v no_o place_n §._o iii_o waldensis_n yield_v to_o the_o scripture_n a_o preminence_n in_o authority_n will_v have_v we_o depend_v ●on_n the_o church_n for_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o 2._o she_o be_v ●o_o to_o declare_v which_o book_n be_v canonical_a ●ripture_n a_o speech_n of_o canus_n touch_v wal●sis_n his_o opinion_n examine_v 3._o when_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d father_n testimony_n have_v abolish_v all_o he●●es_n he_o do_v not_o exclude_v the_o authority_n of_o 〈◊〉_d church_n symbolical_a or_o representative_a 4_o ●e_z symbolical_a church_n he_o say_v against_o wi●ef_n be_v not_o the_o predestinate_v people_n only_o but_o 〈◊〉_d university_n of_o right_a believer_n spread_v over_o the_o whole_a world_n 5._o he_o hold_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v fail_v 6._o and_o 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non_fw-la licet_fw-la de_fw-fr ipsa_fw-la dubitare_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la testimonium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la est_fw-la obiectum_fw-la fidei_fw-la christianae_n &_o legis_fw-la latio_fw-la scripturae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la subijcitur_fw-la tamen_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sicut_fw-la testis_fw-la iudici_fw-la &_o testimonium_fw-la veritati_fw-la sicut_fw-la praecon●zatio_fw-la definitioni_fw-la &_o sicut_fw-la praeco_fw-la regi_fw-la ib●dem_fw-la quod_fw-la aliquis_fw-la pater_fw-la unus_fw-la singulariter_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la sensit_fw-la potes_fw-la aliquo_fw-la saltem_fw-la colore_fw-la tuo_fw-la decredere_fw-la quod_fw-la autem_fw-la poenè_fw-la omnes_fw-la quasi_fw-la unus_fw-la homo_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la fidei_fw-la robur_fw-la habet_fw-la quia_fw-la unitas_fw-la ipsa_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la loquor_fw-la omnium_fw-la gentium_fw-la linguis_fw-la idem_fw-la c._n 25._o margin_n one_o only_o i_o will_v put_v here_o because_o it_o serve_v also_o for_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o the_o 18._o chapter_n of_o his_o 2._o book_n doct._n fid._n he_o declare_v how_o the_o sincerity_n of_o the_o church_n testimony_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v believe_v in_o the_o creed_n there_o where_o we_o profess_v to_o believe_v the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n and_o among_o other_o thing_n to_o this_o purpose_n have_v these_o word_n before_o the_o write_a gospel_n this_o in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o gospel_n which_o jesus_n christ_n write_v and_o which_o the_o apostle_n write_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n and_o to_o who_o testimony_n every_o one_o must_v stand_v in_o the_o controversy_n whether_o the_o text_n of_o the_o write_a gospel_n be_v understand_v or_o take_v by_o the_o faithful_a or_o subvert_v by_o the_o heretic_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v to_o the_o corinthian_n say_v ●ow_o be_v our_o epistle_n write_v in_o your_o heart_n which_o be_v know_v and_o read_v of_o all_o man_n declare_v that_o you_o be_v the_o epistle_n 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fides_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o eius_fw-la authoritas_fw-la quantum_fw-la hominum_fw-la supergreditur_fw-la rationem_fw-la tantum_fw-la fateor_fw-la divin●_n legis_fw-la authoritati_fw-la succumbit_fw-la sed_fw-la tamen_fw-la qua●_n minoris_fw-la esse_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la si_fw-la eam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la praeferret_fw-la wa●d_fw-la to_o 3._o de_fw-la sacramentalibus_fw-la tit_n 7._o c._n 63._o si_fw-mi verum_fw-la sem_fw-mi per_fw-la sit_fw-la testimonium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la semper_fw-la credenda_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la quandoq●●_n fallere_fw-la consueta_fw-la in_fw-la omnibus_fw-la est_fw-la suspecta_fw-la ibidem_fw-la the_o divine_a law_n be_v unto_o the_o faithful_a addit_fw-la faithful_a non_fw-la licet_fw-la de_fw-fr ipsa_fw-la dubitare_fw-la etc._n etc._n vide_fw-la in_o addit_fw-la of_o less_o authority_n if_o the_o church_n do_v not_o prefer_v it_o and_o ibid●●_fw-la and_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la superius_fw-la dixi_fw-la quantumlibet_fw-la eminent_a scriptura_fw-la divina_fw-la sanctioni_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ipsa_fw-la tamen_fw-la taxabe●_n se_fw-la sum_fw-la eius_fw-la quo_fw-la aliter_fw-la sentire_fw-la non_fw-la possis_fw-la &_o cvius_fw-la interpraetationi_fw-la resistere_fw-la capitalis_fw-la est_fw-la culpa_fw-la dicit_fw-la origenes_n ibid●●_fw-la howmuch_o soever_o the_o divin●_n scripture_n be_v high_a than_o the_o decree_n of_o ●he_n church_n ipsa_fw-la tamen_fw-la sensum_fw-la eius_fw-la ●axabit_fw-la she_o notwithstanding_o shall_v de●ne_v the_o sense_n wherein_o thou_o may_v not_o ●old_a otherwise_o and_o who_o interpretation_n to_o resist_v be_v as_o origen_n speak_v a_o capital_a offence_n so_o he_o ad_fw-la concilium_fw-la universale_fw-la praecipué_fw-fr pertinet_fw-la definire_fw-la qui_fw-la libre_fw-la sit_fw-la canonicus_fw-la quam_fw-la quidem_fw-la propositionem_fw-la aequo_fw-la ani●o_fw-la paterer_fw-la ab_fw-la haereticis_fw-la non_fw-la admitti_fw-la sed_fw-la illud_fw-la tamen_fw-la doleo_fw-la vehe●enter_fw-la quod_fw-la eam_fw-la nonnulli_fw-la fideles_fw-la inficiantur_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la tho●as_n waldensis_fw-la esse_fw-la videtur_fw-la li._n 2._o doc_fw-fr fid_fw-we c._n 19_o baro._n p._n 365._o ex_fw-la ●no_fw-la addit_fw-la baro_n c._n 20._o &_o 21._o secondlie_o it_o be_v object_v that_o he_o deny_v to_o the_o church_n now_o ●●esent_a power_n to_o determine_v which_o ●●e_v book_n of_o scripture_n and_o for_o this_o ●●e_v cite_v three_o chapter_n of_o his_o 2._o ●●oke_n doct._n fid._n the_o 19_o 20._o and_o 21._o ●ut_v there_o i_o find_v it_o not_o he_o do_v in●ed_v hold_n that_o the_o catholic_n churh●●d_v ●●d_z not_o other_o be_v able_a to_o 2._o to_o et_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la dictum_fw-la gloriosum_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quod_fw-la sc_fw-la ipsa_fw-la sola_fw-la est_fw-la cvius_fw-la testimonium_fw-la est_fw-la tantae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la &_o praeconij_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsos_fw-la libros_fw-la 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intellecta_fw-la vel_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la s._n aug_n epist_n 111._o other_o book_n have_v not_o in_o every_o part_n that_o infallibility_n other_o writer_n have_v not_o such_o ample_a assistance_n as_o the_o sacred_a writer_n have_v si_fw-it divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la earum_fw-la sc_fw-la quae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la nominantur_fw-la perspicua_fw-la firmatur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sine_fw-la ullae_fw-la dubitatione_n credendum_fw-la est_fw-la alijs_fw-la verò_fw-la testibus_fw-la vel_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la credendum_fw-la esse_fw-la suadetur_fw-la tibi_fw-la credere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la quantum_fw-la ea_fw-la momenti_fw-la ad_fw-la faciendam_fw-la fidem_fw-la vel_fw-la habere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la perpenderis_fw-la baro_n p._n 336._o ex_fw-la aug._n epist_n 112._o 2._o the_o second_o exception_n be_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o a_o other_o place_n epist_n 112._o speak_v not_o 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