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they_o now_o adventure_v to_o say_v that_o be_v thing_n clear_o state_v and_o distinguish_v one_o from_o another_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o consider_v only_o in_o the_o idea_n will_v not_o be_v very_o grow_v a_o and_o that_o they_o can_v safe_o allow_v whatsoever_o monsieur_n de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v advance_v upon_o this_o point_n provide_v it_o be_v will_n and_o right_o explain_v and_o he_o have_v advance_v nothing_o but_o what_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o tront_n the_o expositor_n and_o i_o be_v agree_v in_o most_o thing_n justification_n thing_n 30_o sanctification_n and_o justification_n only_o i_o tell_v he_o i_o think_v he_o will_v be_v hard_o put_v to_o it_o to_o prove_v the_o distinction_n betwixt_o justification_n and_o sanctification_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o that_o he_o impose_v upon_o we_o when_o he_o affirm_v we_o so_o to_o make_v our_o inward_a righteousness_n a_o part_n of_o justification_n that_o 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we_o 20._o pag._n 20._o they_o believe_v their_o sin_n be_v pardon_v only_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n impute_v to_o we_o nay_o though_o he_o tell_v we_o their_o church_n by_o justification_n understand_v only_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n contradiction_n contradiction_n and_o by_o sanctification_n the_o production_n of_o the_o habit_n of_o righteousness_n in_o we_o yet_o within_o two_o line_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v only_o give_v to_o those_o that_o repent_v and_o that_o they_o who_o repent_v be_v those_o in_o who_o the_o hoty_a ghost_n produce_v the_o grace_n of_o sanctification_n for_o a_o true_a righteousness_n and_o holiness_n of_o life_n which_o be_v just_a as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v we_o distinguish_v justification_n and_o sanctification_n but_o no_o man_n can_v be_v justifiel_n unless_o he_o be_v also_o sanctify_v that_o our_o sin_n be_v pardon_v only_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n impute_v to_o we_o but_o that_o his_o merit_n be_v not_o only_o impute_v but_o actudl_o communieat_v to_o we_o he_o will_v oblige_v we_o if_o he_o please_v to_o tell_v we_o how_o these_o agree_v as_o also_o how_o the_o doctrine_n of_o their_o 11_o article_n 95._o we_o be_v account_v righteous_a before_o god_n only_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n j._n christ_n by_o faith_n and_o not_o for_o our_o own_o work_n and_o deserve_n wherefore_o that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n only_o be_v a_o wholesomt_a doctrine_n and_o very_o full_a of_o comfost_n art._n 11._o sparrow_n canon_n pag._n 95._o that_o we_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n only_o be_v consistent_a with_o what_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 19_o of_o his_o exposition_n that_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o precede_v our_o justification_n whether_o our_o faith_n or_o our_o good_a work_n can_v merit_v this_o grace_n and_o what_o he_o sum_n up_o pag._n 21._o that_o christ_n die_v and_o by_o that_o death_n satisfy_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n 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the_o eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v a._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 704._o a._n how_o many_o be_v there_o now_o who_o say_v i_o will_v glad_o see_v his_o form_n his_o shape_n i_o will_v see_v his_o very_a garment_n i_o will_v see_v his_o shoe_n behold_v thou_o see_v answer_n he_o himself_z thou_o touch_v he_o thou_o eat_v he_o and_o thou_o be_v still_o desirous_a to_o see_v his_o garment_n and_o a_o little_a further_o who_o will_v declare_v the_o power_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o who_o will_v publish_v all_o his_o praise_n what_o shepherd_n ever_o yet_o feed_v his_o flock_n with_o his_o own_o member_n and_o why_o do_v i_o mention_v shepherd_n there_o be_v many_o mother_n who_o give_v their_o child_n to_o other_o nurse_n but_o he_o christ_n not_o so_o he_o nourish_v we_o with_o his_o own_o blood_n and_o close_o knit_v himself_o to_o we_o in_o all_o thing_n a._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 705._o a._n the_o thing_n we_o propose_v be_v not_o do_v by_o human_a power_n he_o who_o wrought_v these_o thing_n at_o the_o last_o supper_n be_v the_o author_n of_o what_o be_v do_v here_o we_o hold_v but_o the_o place_n of_o minister_n but_o he_o who_o sanctify_v and_o change_v they_o be_v christ_n himself_n to_o these_o i_o may_v add_v that_o in_o his_o liturgy_n the_o priest_n pray_v frontonduc_n pray_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 5._o p._n 614._o b._n edit_n frontonduc_n that_o god_n will_v make_v that_o bread_n the_o precious_a body_n of_o his_o son_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o chalice_n the_o pretions_n blood_n of_o his_o christ_n etc._n etc._n change_v they_o by_o his_o holy_a spirit_n and_o in_o his_o homily_n the_o proditione_n judae_n he_o teach_v that_o judas_n receive_v the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o betray_v his_o word_n be_v these_o and_o judas_n be_v present_a when_o christ_n say_v these_o word_n a._n word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tom._n 3._o serm._n 30._o pag._n 463._o a._n this_o be_v the_o body_n say_v he_o o_o judas_n which_o thou_o have_v sell_v for_o thirty_o piece_n of_o silver_n this_o be_v the_o blood_n for_o which_o thou_o have_v make_v a_o bargain_n with_o the_o pharisee_n oh_o the_o mercy_n of_o christ_n oh_o the_o madness_n of_o judas_n he_o make_v a_o bargain_n to_o sell_v he_o for_o thirty_o penny_n and_o christ_n offer_v he_o the_o blood_n which_o he_o sell_v that_o he_o may_v have_v remission_n of_o his_o sin_n if_o he_o will_v have_v cease_v to_o be_v wicked_a for_o judas_n be_v there_o and_o be_v permit_v to_o partake_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n c._n sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n for_o it_o be_v not_o man_n who_o make_v the_o propose_v element_n to_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v crueify_v for_o we_o the_o priest_n perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o pronounce_v the_o word_n but_o it_o be_v the_o virtue_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n which_o operate_v the_o whole_a he_o say_v 1.28_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n c._n gen._n 1.28_o this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o word_n transmute_v or_o change_v the_o propose_v thing_n or_o element_n and_o as_o the_o voice_n which_o say_v increase_v and_o multiply_v and_o fill_v the_o earth_n be_v but_o once_o speak_v but_o in_o all_o time_n by_o the_o operation_n of_o nature_n feel_v the_o effect_n as_o to_o generation_n so_o that_o voice_n be_v but_o once_o uttor_v but_o yet_o give_v a_o firmness_n to_o the_o sacrifice_n throughout_o all_o the_o table_n of_o the_o church_n even_o to_o this_o very_a day_n and_o shall_v continue_v it_o even_o to_o his_o very_a come_n these_o thing_n be_v consider_v 129._o appendix_n p._n 129._o
this_o worship_n do_v as_o he_o say_v many_o thing_n utter_o inconsistent_a with_o it_o as_o burn_v in_o some_o church_n what_o remain_v of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n permit_v the_o people_n to_o carry_v it_o home_o that_o have_v communicate_v send_v it_o abroad_o by_o sea_n and_o land_n without_o any_o regard_n that_o we_o can_v find_v have_v to_o its_o worship_n bury_v it_o with_o their_o dead_a make_v plaster_n of_o the_o bread_n mix_v the_o wine_n with_o their_o ink_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v no_o instance_n of_o adoration_n before_o i_o begin_v to_o answer_v this_o objection_n 92._o objection_n 92._o i_o must_v beg_v leave_n to_o show_v our_o belief_n in_o this_o matter_n and_o the_o ground_n we_o go_v upon_o first_o we_o believe_v be_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o adore_v god_n and_o christ_n wherever_o they_o be_v whoever_o acknowledge_v jesus_n christ_n to_o be_v god_n and_o man_n may_v lawful_o adore_v he_o wherever_o he_o have_v a_o rational_a ground_n to_o believe_v he_o to_o be_v present_a yet_o be_v he_o not_o at_o all_o time_n oblige_v to_o pay_v this_o actual_a adoration_n because_o otherwise_o the_o apostle_n must_v have_v do_v nothing_o else_o but_o adore_v when_o ever_o they_o be_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o their_o lord_n second_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o belief_n that_o our_o bless_a saviour_n be_v real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v undoubted_o rational_a as_o i_o think_v i_o have_v sufficient_o show_v and_o therefore_o all_o those_o who_o believe_v he_o present_v may_v lawful_o adore_v he_o there_o adoration_n we_o can_v always_o pay_v this_o actual_a adoration_n though_o they_o be_v not_o always_o oblige_v actual_o to_o pay_v that_o adoration_n otherwise_o they_o must_v do_v nothing_o in_o presence_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o adore_v him._n three_o it_o be_v worthy_a our_o remark_n that_o the_o word_n sacrament_n host_n or_o eucharist_n be_v sometime_o take_v for_o christ_n alone_o sometime_o for_o the_o species_n alone_o sensible_a we_o adore_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n not_o what_o be_v sensible_a and_o sometime_o for_o both_o christ_n and_o the_o species_n but_o when_o we_o speak_v proper_o of_o adore_v the_o sacrament_n we_o speak_v only_o of_o adore_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n for_o we_o do_v not_o adore_v what_o be_v visible_a tangible_a or_o any_o way_n sensible_a in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o christ_n jesus_n who_o we_o believe_v to_o be_v under_o those_o visible_a tangible_a and_o sensible_a element_n last_o the_o church_n be_v confirm_v in_o this_o belief_n have_v authority_n as_o occasion_n serve_v to_o command_v the_o payment_n of_o this_o adoration_n which_o be_v due_a at_o all_o time_n and_o to_o set_v apart_o some_o solemn_a festival_n or_o ceremonial_a rite_n to_o invite_v her_o child_n to_o perform_v this_o duty_n these_o consideration_n be_v premise_v i_o deny_v his_o antecedent_n 93._o antecedent_n 93._o and_o to_o his_o proof_n i_o answer_v to_o the_o first_o i_o say_v the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v no_o more_o a_o argument_n against_o we_o in_o this_o practice_n i._o the_o scripture_n silence_v no_o argument_n against_o a_o perpetual_a practice_n than_o it_o be_v against_o the_o adoration_n of_o our_o lord_n when_o present_a in_o the_o flesh_n for_o though_o we_o find_v there_o a_o command_n of_o go_v to_o christ_n and_o follow_v he_o yet_o will_v he_o scarce_o find_v a_o express_a place_n in_o the_o gospel_n where_o christ_n command_v his_o disciple_n to_o adore_v he_o this_o adoration_n depend_v whole_o on_o his_o be_v god_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o he_o convince_v they_o of_o his_o divinity_n and_o we_o be_v thus_o convince_v by_o his_o own_o word_n that_o he_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n we_o be_v oblige_v to_o adore_v he_o there_o and_o if_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o argue_v as_o our_o defender_n will_v have_v have_v he_o yet_o do_v he_o do_v it_o with_o no_o less_o force_n and_o energy_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o tell_v they_o it_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o to_o receive_v it_o be_v a_o annunciation_n of_o his_o death_n that_o they_o who_o receive_v it_o unworthy_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o their_o lord_n that_o they_o cat_n and_o drink_v their_o own_o condemnation_n not_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n that_o therefore_o there_o be_v many_o sick_a and_o weak_a among_o they_o and_o many_o die_v these_o as_o they_o be_v sufficient_a argument_n to_o persuade_v they_o not_o to_o profane_v the_o sacrament_n so_o be_v they_o sufficient_a argument_n to_o convince_v they_o and_o we_o of_o the_o obligation_n to_o adore_v he_o present_a in_o it_o though_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o put_v they_o in_o mind_n of_o that_o necessary_a consequence_n to_o the_o second_o practice_n second_o c_o 4._o ii_o the_o church_n condemn_v arise_v herefy_v by_o her_o practice_n it_o have_v always_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n to_o condemn_v heresy_n by_o her_o practice_n as_o well_o as_o her_o anathema_n command_v the_o glory_n be_v to_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v say_v or_o sing_v after_o every_o psalm_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o arian_n error_n and_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n to_o condemn_v the_o antitrinitarian_n etc._n etc._n no_o wonder_n therefore_o if_o when_o this_o pernicious_a heresy_n of_o the_o sacramentarian_o begin_v 5._o atque_fw-la sic_fw-la quidem_fw-la operâ—uit_fw-la victrâ—cem_fw-la reâ—_n itatem_fw-la de_fw-la mendacio_fw-la &_o heresi_fw-la triumphum_fw-la agere_fw-la ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la adversart_n in_fw-la conspectu_fw-la tanti_fw-la splendoris_fw-la &_o in_o tanta_fw-la untversae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la laetitia_fw-la positi_fw-la vel_fw-la debilitati_fw-la &_o fracti_fw-la tabescant_fw-la vel_fw-la pudore_fw-la affecti_fw-la &_o confusi_fw-la allquendo_fw-la resipiscant_fw-la conc._n trid._n sess_n 13._o c._n 5._o she_o testify_v her_o adoration_n by_o new_a practice_n and_o solemnity_n though_o therefore_o the_o feast_n of_o corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la the_o exposition_n the_o elevation_n etc._n etc._n may_v not_o be_v very_o ancient_a yet_o be_v it_o no_o new_a thing_n to_o adore_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o it_o be_v but_o necessary_a that_o when_o heretic_n begin_v to_o offer_v indignity_n to_o that_o sacred_a mystery_n the_o church_n shall_v enjoin_v new_a praise_n honour_n and_o adoration_n to_o her_o celestial_a spouse_n to_o the_o end_n as_o the_o council_n say_v that_o truth_n may_v by_o this_o mean_n triumph_v over_o lie_v and_o heresy_n and_o that_o its_o adversary_n at_o the_o sight_n of_o so_o much_o splendour_n and_o amid_o such_o a_o universal_a joy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v weaken_v and_o disenable_v may_v decay_v or_o through_o shame_n and_o confusion_n at_o last_o repent_v to_o the_o last_o i_o answer_v doctrine_n answer_v 95._o iii_o particular_a practice_n hurt_v not_o the_o universal_a doctrine_n that_o if_o some_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o avoid_v inconvenience_n or_o other_o out_o of_o a_o heat_n of_o zeal_n which_o be_v not_o agreeable_a to_o our_o practice_n at_o present_a they_o be_v not_o general_o receive_v nay_o censure_v by_o the_o church_n when_o once_o they_o grow_v more_o public_a or_o lay_v aside_o when_o the_o inconvenience_n be_v remove_v but_o these_o practice_n do_v not_o show_v a_o disbelief_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n though_o our_o defender_n may_v perhaps_o show_v that_o they_o tend_v to_o a_o disrespect_n upon_o which_o account_n it_o be_v that_o the_o church_n abolish_v they_o if_o it_o be_v a_o custom_n for_o some_o time_n 8._o hesych_n in_o levit._n l._n 2._o c._n 8._o in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n to_o burn_v what_o remain_v after_o communion_n be_v it_o not_o a_o show_n of_o reverence_n and_o respect_n lest_o perhaps_o the_o sacred_a symbol_n may_v fall_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o those_o 35._o burgr_n hist_o l._n 4._o c._n 35._o who_o will_v profane_a they_o and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o custom_n in_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n of_o give_v the_o remain_a particle_n of_o the_o immaculate_a body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o god_n as_o the_o historian_n express_v it_o to_o young_a child_n but_o this_o i_o hope_v be_v consistent_a with_o a_o belief_n of_o the_o real_a prerence_n if_o also_o the_o primitive_a christian_n permit_v the_o faithful_a to_o carry_v it_o home_o with_o they_o or_o send_v it_o by_o sea_n or_o land_n to_o the_o sick_a or_o to_o they_o with_o who_o they_o will_v testify_v their_o unity_n it_o be_v not_o i_o hope_v any_o sign_n of_o their_o disrespect_n but_o rather_o a_o testimony_n of_o their_o veneration_n and_o a_o practice_n which_o do_v not_o derogate_v from_o their_o belief_n of_o its_o be_v the_o body_n of_o their_o lord_n if_o a_o st._n benedict_n cause_v the_o bless_a sacrament_n to_o be_v lay_v upon_o the_o breast_n of_o a_o dead_a corpse_n which_o the_o grave_n
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